You already have two divine casters. An arcane caster - wizard, sorcerer, witch, magus or summoner - would probably be more useful.
Hmm. Alchemist may be worth considering. It can be a backup healer to the cleric and oracle, fill the arcane AOE damage role, and still do bursts of front line fighting. If you are less worried about front liners, witch can also heal well and depending on patron can fill the arcane casting role.
A chirurgeon alchemist could be a lot of fun. You hand out your extracts and don't have to spend actions healing, instead using bombs or battle extracts.
A hedge witch, an arcane caster, could be really fun as well. You have access to utility spells and can put a lot of feats into your hexes to still be a great asset to the party.
Oracle specializing in minions? Explain?
Like, has an animal companion?
Or like, is pretending to be a summoner?
Or something else entirely?
Either way, you have two divine casters/healers, you don't really need a dedicated healer for this group.
What Remy asked, also what levels are you expecting to play at?
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A Magus or Alchemist might have the right mix of arcane and combat powers to back this party up. You definitely want someone who can take a hit, the oracle and rogue are most likely not very well guarded.
A Magus or Alchemist might have the right mix of arcane and combat powers to back this party up. You definitely want someone who can take a hit, the oracle and rogue are most likely not very well guarded.
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Magus or alchemist, and for the same reasons CriticalQuit stated.
a paladin would actually be a good fit (great frontliners, which it looks like you could use, and good 2ndary healers), but it looks like alignment might be an issue (oracle minions probably means undead, and burglars tend not to get along with a LG pally).
if you want some arcane ability (without ignoring what looks like a need for some more physical combat) you could try a magus, or a battle-bard (arcane duelist or either of the dervish archetypes can all be effective for this), or an eldritch knight... an aasimar can start EK at 3rd level with 1 level of any class that gets all martial weapons (including the sohei, if you don't want to fool around with armor) and one of any arcane caster (empyreal sorcerer is a great option if you went with sohei); a divination|scrying specialist wizard can also start EK at 3rd level if it has 1 level in any class with martial weapons! a bard or witch/EK would get some healing magic too (an empyreal sorc get a tiny bit), and anyone can gain some with a decent UMD score.
you could also try a summoner- the eidolon can easily be effective in melee and you get access to some decent buff and utility spells (you can heal the eidolon with your spells, all other healing would come from UMD).
or you could say 'screw arcane magic' and make a druid- animal companion and wildshape will bolster combat, and you'll have full casting with some heals, some blasting, and some utility.
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For Arcane beatsticks, you might take a look at Summoner as well. You guys look pretty hard-pressed for both damage and action economy, so having a "5th" member could be pretty nice. Just giving your eidolon claws, pounce, and a bunch of defensive evolutions is enough to have a passable tank. Between you and the Cleric you should have all the utility spells covered.
You need arcane and you need a good front liner.
Magus is my vote.
Hey guys,
I'm starting a new Campaign at Level 1 with a Party of 4 PC's and a DM (obviously) but I'm unsure about what Class i should play.
So far we have:
- a battle Cleric
- a catfolk Burgler
- an Oracle specializing in minionsThe cleric is not really focusing on healing so I'm thinking of taking over that part but I don't really wanna pick a 2nd cleric :/
(Overall I'm pretty openminded about classes and our DM didn't ban any Races or Classes or whatever but I dont want him to deal with something too~ crazy, if there is such a thing)
If you can offer any help, that would be awesome!
Play a Druid! Who needs arcane casters?
I'd vote for beast-bonded witch or magus hexcrafter.
Okay s%~!, thats a ton of suggestions :D which make it difficult for me to decide...
So far I can rule out:
- Paladin (because of oracle´s undead minions)
Ah Ah Aaaahhh,
The undead created by an Oracle are not evil, and match the Oracles alignment.
The designers regret this, but a Paladin can, technically, be allied with an Oracle who creates undead with the oracle ability.
- some kind of Eldritch Knight as nate lange suggested
EKs can be some of the most super-powered and fun characters out there. Since SLAs count as arcane or divine spells depending on the character's magic type you could be an
Aasamr EK at level 3.If you want to have healing spells go with Witch, if you want a large variety of wizard spells go wizard, and if you want to be able to cast a lot of spells go Sorcerer.
Common builds are
Aasimar Paladin1/Sorcerer1/EK10/Hell Knight Enforcer 8. You have stupidly high saves, good AC from your Celestial Full Plate, no spell failure chance due to Hell Knight Enforcer's special, and, with Magical Knack as one of your traits, a caster level of 20. Hell Knights can be any lawful alignment, and Paladins have to be lawful good, so it gives the most synergy.
Witch and Wizard can do the same thing but avoid paladin, instead do Fighter for the bonus feat or for unbreakable. Stick with two-handed and you'll just kill everything without a problem.
IF you wish I can explain why Paizo lets this work.
Don't sweat the healing.
Is Hell Knight Enforcer considered a 3rd Party class?
Hellknight Enforcer is a paizo class. It is not a 3rd party.
Dont need healers in Pathfinder, not as much as 3.5 Just wand whip after combat.
Dont need healers in Pathfinder, not as much as 3.5 Just wand whip after combat.
So 3 witches and a Hexcrafter walk into a boss encounter, and everyone gets one-shotted.
Huzzah for Slumber!
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Not the elves...
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+1 to Hexcrafter. You can cast Infernal Healing and use a wand of it for healing, and with pragmatic activator/clever wordplay[UMD], you can get a good enough check to use wands of CLW. You also get to be Uniquely Game-Changing:)
That leaves more or less:
- Magus
- Druid
- some kind of Eldritch Knight as nate lange suggested
EKs have trouble until they are deep into their prestige class. Unless you absolutely need 9th lvl spells, the magus is an overall better gish from 1-20.
IMO a druid brings the tanky-ness needed to your party in addition to blast spells and battlefield control spells. They can also heal. That class covers all the bases you are looking for. Druids even get spells akin to teleport (transport via plants) and you have a cleric for planeshift.
The only thing your party will be hurting for is the haste spell (which isn't that great for druids anyways)
I think you can take what ever class you want to play. The healing is not a real niche in pathfinder unless you make it one. And with both a cleric and an oracle with the Big divine list i think you will waste your PC if you decide to be the third healer.
If being a team player and basing your PC om the others is important to you i would say make a flank buddy for the catman. Else make a strong melee guy like a barbarian or or Magus or belive in the minions of the oracle, make a wizard and pretent they are all your minions.