So a creature with a Burrow speed and Tremor sense should be able to make charges at creatures from underground. My two questions are:
1) Can a creature with burrow make charges from under an opponent (directly under) providing that the charger has knowledge of where the target is and ten feet in which to make the charge?
2) Same as above, substituting Earth Glide for Burrow Speed.
Thanks, one detail to clear up, Earth Elemental's Earth Glide
Earth Glide (Ex)
A burrowing earth elemental can pass through stone, dirt, or almost any other sort of earth except metal as easily as a fish swims through water. If protected against fire damage, it can even glide through lava. Its burrowing leaves behind no tunnel or hole, nor does it create any ripple or other sign of its presence. A move earth spell cast on an area containing a burrowing earth elemental flings the elemental back 30 feet, stunning the creature for 1 round unless it succeeds on a DC 15 Fortitude save.
Same question as above since the Earth Elemental's Earth glide doesn't prohibit charging.
Correct, I meant to ask about Earth Elementals in particular since as far as I can tell, an Earth Elemental can charge against their opponents (who would be flat-footed vs these charges) and be immune to retaliatory attacks from those that they are charging.
Earth Glide, in the text you quoted, said that a burrowing earth elemental does all that stuff. Meaning that you are in fact burrowing when you use earth glide. So no charge.
So, how about a Monarch Worm?
According to the monster entry, this creature is an unstoppable force, defined as follows in the Godspawn template:
A Godspawn can always charge, even if its movement is impeded or its path is blocked by another creature.
Now one party member reads this as "difficult terrain and creatures in the way do not impede a charge", while another draws the conclusion that this makes charging possible while burrowing.
Which conclusion would be correct?
Thanks in advance for your advice!
Kroisos.
Sorry to reply to myself, but the correct term should be 'unrelenting force', not 'unstoppable force'.
Apart from that, the question remains the same...
Kroisos.
It's godspawn, it's basically however your GM wants to run it.
Personally, I find it a cheap tactic that birthday PCs would have trouble with. But if you're fighting godspawn, you're not normal.
Are universal Burrow rules described anywhere in Pathfinder?
Except burrow doesn't actually say that. Yes I realize that's a few years old post.1) No. Under Burrow: "Creatures cannot charge or run while burrowing."
2) Earth Glide uses burrow in the text. See burrow. Same as above. Should be no.
The burrow spell does but that could easily be specific vs general.
3.x did have rules for burrow.
Burrow
A creature with a burrow speed can tunnel through dirt, but not through rock unless the descriptive text says otherwise. Creatures cannot charge or run while burrowing. Most burrowing creatures do not leave behind tunnels other creatures can use (either because the material they tunnel through fills in behind them or because they do not actually dislocate any material when burrowing); see the individual creature descriptions for details.
In the absence of pathfinder rules, we can assume that these rules are intended.
Personally I dont think you should be fighting godspawn on your birthday, Claxon. Take the day off, adventurers
Darn autocorrect from my phone.
I'm not even sure what I meant to say, except "basically any PC", but I don't think that would have autocorrected to birthday.
Charge specifies, “You must have a clear path toward the opponent”, which wouldn’t really be true even with glide. There is no path till you make one.