I'm beginning to wonder if the Mr. Hyde character is tied up in one of those licensing deals with Fox or Sony. That might be why they've only ever (as far as I can recollect) referred to him as Cal (never Calvin Zabo, or Mr. Hyde), with little hints as to who he really is.
Still, might as well include me in the mix as someone who wants to see him get his full Hyde on and start throwing people around. I mean, come on, this is someone who has fought the Hulk!
Didn't they mention the term Zabo somewhere though? I thought I remembered it mentioned somewhere... And in the last episode we find his name was really Calvin Johnson.
"But he changed it to something that sounded more...." (something) I can't remember if it was dangerous, evil, scary, some term that hinted at what we already know... But he was very pleased with himself.
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I believe It's a budget matter and they have to make it right.
I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to super-stuff and saving money on special effects. Instead of having dudes fly around on wires like they do when Sif punches them, just cut to carnage happening around the corner, or behind a closed door, and let us see the horrible aftermath, the way they (very effectively, IMO) did on Heroes, never really showing Niki's super-strong persona in action, but suggesting that bodies were just torn limb from limb when people showed up later to see the carnage she'd left behind.
If they want to save their FX budget for Lightning Lincoln moving go pieces or Mikelock shooting rockets out of his arms, I'm fine with that.
It might even be an interesting storytelling device, to never actually *see* 'Hyde' in action, only neurotic Cal, after the fact, amidst all the wreckage and bodies.
Honestly I think what we have seen of Lincoln's powers so far, could probably be done using Adobe After Effects, so it probably doesn't cost much more than regular post production
I believe It's a budget matter and they have to make it right.I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to super-stuff and saving money on special effects. Instead of having dudes fly around on wires like they do when Sif punches them, just cut to carnage happening around the corner, or behind a closed door, and let us see the horrible aftermath, the way they (very effectively, IMO) did on Heroes, never really showing Niki's super-strong persona in action, but suggesting that bodies were just torn limb from limb when people showed up later to see the carnage she'd left behind.
If they want to save their FX budget for Lightning Lincoln moving go pieces or Mikelock shooting rockets out of his arms, I'm fine with that.
It might even be an interesting storytelling device, to never actually *see* 'Hyde' in action, only neurotic Cal, after the fact, amidst all the wreckage and bodies.
Or the hallway scene of Daredevil, which is amazing. Though I don't think that would fit the cinematography of the rest of the show.
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Agents of SHIELD and Daredevil tie ins.
It's mentioned that Matt Murdock grew up at St.Agnes' Orphanage. Skye from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. also stated that she grew up at St.Agnes' orphanage.
The Boxer that Jack Murdock beats is Carl Creel. Creel would later become The Absorbing Man and regularly antagonize the like of Thor and The Avengers. The character did appear in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for season 2.
Unverified currently, but Madam Gao may be an Inhuman. At the very least she has Monk levels.
Her home is "much further away" than china. Afterlife may be even particularly remote... or she may even be kree.
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I was thinking Gao is going to end up tied to Iron Fist and the temple he comes from
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Agents of SHIELD and Daredevil tie ins.
It's mentioned that Matt Murdock grew up at St.Agnes' Orphanage. Skye from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. also stated that she grew up at St.Agnes' orphanage.
The Boxer that Jack Murdock beats is Carl Creel. Creel would later become The Absorbing Man and regularly antagonize the like of Thor and The Avengers. The character did appear in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for season 2.
Unverified currently, but Madam Gao may be an Inhuman. At the very least she has Monk levels.
I think Madame Gao is probably the Crane Mother. Something someone mentioned elsewhere, but packages of heroin they were producing all had the symbol of the Heavenly cities that Iron Fist gets his powers from.
I don't think she has any connection with the inhumans, nor do I think they will figure into the Netflix series in any major way, at least not until after the Defenders.
I suspect that Hellcat will be subbing in for Carol Danvers (who probably isn't even powered yet in the MCU, since her movie is a few years off).
My guess is that they will significantly streamline her storyline, as basically being someone who gets powers, decides to be a superhero (or possibly gets recruited by Shield?) and who in one of her first outings gets controlled by the Purple Man.
Really the important stuff about her background is that she gives up superheroics after trauma involving the Purple Man, and deals with some PTSD from her experiences while working as a detective. You don't need her knowing Peter Parker or attacking the Avengers for that.
The Flash? He's DC.
Flash Thompson.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
Well except for the parts where it CLEARLY IS, sure.
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He didn't actually say that, of course.
What he said was basically, "as far as the movies are concerned, Coulson is still dead," because Phil won't be back in any of the movies going forward - trying to explain him being not-dead, when the resurrection happened on TV, just isn't worth doing in the two-hour space of a movie.
But hey, clickbait title is clickbait.
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What he said was basically, "as far as the movies are concerned, Coulson is still dead," because Phil won't be back in any of the movies going forward - trying to explain him being not-dead, when the resurrection happened on TV, just isn't worth doing in the two-hour space of a movie.
Eh.
Anyway, Whedon has also said Avengers 2: Ultron Bugaloo is his last Marvel Studios movie for the foreseeable future (wanting to instead do his own ideas and projects). So if the Daredevil, AKA Jessica Jones, Black Panther, Spider-Man: The Rebootening, or Whatever Movie people want to bring Son of Coul in on any of their projects, I'm not sure Whedtron gets a say. (But if anyone from AoS makes it into more movies, I'd much rather it be Melinda May.)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
:D
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:DAgents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
If I ever fail my Will save and start writing MCU fanfiction/smut, I'm going to ship Whedon and his Ego.
What he said was basically, "as far as the movies are concerned, Coulson is still dead," because Phil won't be back in any of the movies going forward - trying to explain him being not-dead, when the resurrection happened on TV, just isn't worth doing in the two-hour space of a movie.Eh.
Anyway, Whedon has also said Avengers 2: Ultron Bugaloo is his last Marvel Studios movie for the foreseeable future (wanting to instead do his own ideas and projects). So if the Daredevil, AKA Jessica Jones, Black Panther, Spider-Man: The Rebootening, or Whatever Movie people want to bring Son of Coul in on any of their projects, I'm not sure Whedtron gets a say. (But if anyone from AoS makes it into more movies, I'd much rather it be Melinda May.)
I get where Whedon is coming from. It's one thing to expect that people who watch AoS would watch the MCU movies, which have worldwide release and are probably seen by practically anyone with even a vague interest in ever watching AoS. It's another thing to expect movie watchers to follow Agents of Shield even quasi-casually, given that a lot of even comic fans don't watch, and I don't think AoS is even on air over large chunk of the world. Most movie goers, if they remember Coulson at all, they remember his death.
AoS is in a weird place where they can extensively build upon the mythology of the movies, but the movies can't really incorporate much directly from the show.
(Yes there are the Inhumans, but its probably noteworthy that we have gotten the concept, but not the major characters, Attilan, or anything to do with the Royal Family. We have just been introduced to one of the lost tribes).
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I saw the episode as well, not bad, a little melodramatic but enough action to cover that. I am heading out to see a screening of The Avengers vs James Spader's voice*, the episode really tried to shoe horn the tv series to sinc in with the events of the movie (I am guessing).
I'm not a big fan of
Gotta go, I want to see if Star Wars is in the previews.
Excelsior!
*James Spader uses his natural speaking voice for Ultron, with no accent or alteration made for his voice.
I really liked Skye fight scene with the gun-fu skills. I wonder if it was all training or in part her natural abilities got a boost from her transformation.
Also I think maybe Daredevil laid down the challenge with really good fight scenes so maybe AoS will step up their game.
If I ever fail my Will save and start writing MCU fanfiction/smut, I'm going to ship Whedon and his Ego.:DAgents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
amby...are you hitting on me?
Cuz I'm totally ready for sladlings.
Little Whedon-hating sladlings!
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Holy snaps in a bucket standing on a camel's hump*, that fight scene was awesome. Not only was it intense and impressive, I honestly can't remember ever seeing an action scene like it. The camera was glued strictly on Sky - we couldn't see her enemies until she was already fighting them. That made the scene mobile and surprising. Plus unless I missed a cut somewhere the whole thing was a one-shot.
If I may dare to say, it's probably the best action scene I have ever seen on television.
Rest of episode was good. plot moved forward in a brisk pace, and Theta protocol turned out to be something more awesome than I could have anticipated.
Spoilery question about Raina's vision (spoilers to Age of Ultron and to Agents Of Shield): why did she say the world would change forever? at least in the scope of the movie, nothing of real consequence happened other than the flattening of several cities in that movie...
*no, this doesn't make any sense
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Yeah, I enjoyed last night's episode....
Raina's gift looks like it won't just be coming while she's asleep. As she gets more use out of it, I look forward to seeing if they'll give her more control over it. I also look forward to probably seeing her lie about a vision, just to manipulate some people.
With that in mind, I loved seeing Cal share his thoughts on Raina.
The Skye fight scene was pretty cool. At first, I wish she had used her powers a bit more, but then I got to thinking they did it just right. She used it enough to help out, but the restraint showed she's still getting used to them and how they work with the rest of her skills.
Nice to see Maria Hill again, and that lead-in to Age of Ultron was a nice touch.
I liked the look on Gonzales' face when Coulson mentioned Fury would probably come looking for his toolbox.
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** spoiler omitted **
That's what I'm wondering. It wasn't very clear to me.
So, maybe notifying the Avengers was part of Theta Protocol, but there's more to it that will be revealed during or after next week's episode.
Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
hey, Whedon's stealing domestically this time around!
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hey, Whedon's stealing domestically this time around!Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
It is not Whedon. AoS has little to do with Whedon. Rein back your hate...this is not a Whedon show.
It was a good episode, but I do think the last couple of have sort of had the Avengers movie stuff shoe-horned in. Only a few episodes ago, Coulson wanted to find Ward because he believed he might know where Skye was. However somehow after finding Ward it became...about finding Strucker?
Was sort of confused.
I assume Theta Protocol = Call in the Avengers
It is not Whedon. AoS has little to do with Whedon. Rein back your hate...this is not a Whedon show.hey, Whedon's stealing domestically this time around!Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
And yet...
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
Freehold DM... "Hate leads to suffering"
Let go of your hate for Whedon before it leads you to the dark side.
It is not Whedon. AoS has little to do with Whedon. Rein back your hate...this is not a Whedon show.hey, Whedon's stealing domestically this time around!Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
And yet...
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
He was speaking as the director & writer of what would be included in the Avengers movie...not the creative force behind AoS.
So it is safe for you to like AoS...really it won't count against all the credits you earned hating Whedon. ;)
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Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
I'll grant that the scenes have some similarities, but I went over and re-watched Sky's fight scene. Unlike the one in John Wick it IS a one-shot, and it is much more focused on her. In the John Wick one the camera often jumps somewhere else, we sometimes see his enemies instead of him, etc.
I'd say again, I don't think I've ever seen an action scene like the one in this episode. The techniques in it are simply not something I recall ever watching. It was awesome.
I really loved the fight scene with Skye and I also wonder if it was all skill/training or enhanced abilities.
Freehold DM... "Hate leads to suffering"
Let go of your hate for Whedon before it leads you to the dark side.
This has already happened.
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It is not Whedon. AoS has little to do with Whedon. Rein back your hate...this is not a Whedon show.hey, Whedon's stealing domestically this time around!Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.
While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.
And yet...
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ISN'T Part of the MCU -- Joss Whedon
He was speaking as the director & writer of what would be included in the Avengers movie...not the creative force behind AoS.
So it is safe for you to like AoS...really it won't count against all the credits you earned hating Whedon. ;)
if I hate him some more, I get 20% off my next oil change at pep boys. I don't even own a car, but..hey, 20% off!