we already have dracoliches...RavenersI can tell that they're the substitute, but they're hardly the same thing. :P
That's why you apply the Lich template to a dragon capable of casting spells as an 11th level caster. Presto, dragon lich.
Check out the template. Anything that meets the caster requirements can do it. Frankly, it's the only way that works when the Dracolich is closed content, and I'm pretty sure that's a large part of why they modified the template the way they did.
Also a reminder, vote Mantis Shrimps and Pistol Shrimps for Bestiary 5!
Oh Yeah! Year of the Shrimp!
Or... Book of the Shrimp! Yeah!
Bakeneko & Nekomata
They aren't joke monsters like Drop Bears are, so I don't understand why they still aren't there, they are the most famous monsters from asia.
Bakeneko & Nekomata
They aren't joke monsters like Drop Bears are, so I don't understand why they still aren't there, they are the most famous monsters from asia.
Never heard of them :P
I still like the idea of a Butterfly swarm. One that consists of white butterflies that turn blood red after draining their victim. Natural creatures of course, nothing unliving about them (except that vampires might be fond of them).
Time elementals could also be fun. Completely harmless until you get too close and you end up either a baby or old and wrinkly. Until the thing moves away and time is restored to normal.
Never heard of them :PBakeneko & Nekomata
They aren't joke monsters like Drop Bears are, so I don't understand why they still aren't there, they are the most famous monsters from asia.
I have to say i actually only heard of them the first time, when sincubus mentioned them too.
I would say the most famous monsters from asia would be dragons (which are covered in B3 by the imperial dragons) followed by Qilin/Kirin (also covered in B3).
we already have dracoliches...RavenersI can tell that they're the substitute, but they're hardly the same thing. :PThat's why you apply the Lich template to a dragon capable of casting spells as an 11th level caster. Presto, dragon lich.
Check out the template. Anything that meets the caster requirements can do it. Frankly, it's the only way that works when the Dracolich is closed content, and I'm pretty sure that's a large part of why they modified the template the way they did.
Also a reminder, vote Mantis Shrimps and Pistol Shrimps for Bestiary 5!
Oh Yeah! Year of the Shrimp!
Or... Book of the Shrimp! Yeah!
and don't forget the pistol shrimp's dire and giant versions, musket shrimp and cannon shrimp!
Just look them up on google images and google, the results will be endless. They are in horror games, asian monster books, pokemon and many many many many other stuff, Final Fantasy to Lufia.
They are pretty much the evil version of Kitsune, and probably just as famous in Japan.
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The following creatures from APs and other Paizo products.
Android
Lashunta
Monkey Goblin
Ghoran
Syrinx
Danse Macabre
Buraq
Calikang
Drakavac
Stygira
Calathgar
Biloko
Medusa Head
Flaming Skull
Chemosit
Mountain Troll
Oni(all from the Jade Empire)
Kami(all from the Jade Empire)
Gare Linnorm
Mudmen
Tidepool Dragon
Kijimuna
Addu
Faceless Whale
Gargiya
Clockwork Familiar
Mezlan
Domovoi
Dvorovoi
Ovinnik
Dawn Piper
Storm Hag
Blodeuwedd
Agathion, Cervinal
Angel, Balisse
Angel, Choral
Azata, Veranallia
Fey Animal
Khala
Ved
Chickcharney
Lusca
Laraby
Gillmen
Strix
Robots(All three from the Innersea Bestiary)
Thin Man
Vetala Vampire
Whirlmaw
Star Monarch
Petrified Maiden
Ceru
I would also like too see the Ravid, Arrowhawk, Phasm, and any other creatures left that Paizo can use legally from 3.5.
I also forgot the Shirk Nettle from past APs.
More types of Lamia
More Proteans, Inevitables, Aeons, Angels, Agathions, Azatas, Oni, Azura, and Qlippoths.
More types of giant centipedes, jellyfish, sea anemones, and cockroaches.
More types of drakes(crystal, storm)
More types of Linnorms
Some giant starfish and some more starfish like creatures.
More creatures from Asian myth like Nekomata, Bakeneko, etc.
More creatures from Alice in Wonderland such as the Cheshire Cat.
Some Gigas would be nice(hell, abyss, maelstrom, axis)
Some time elementals and other creatures from the dimension of time.
More creatures from the positive energy plane.
More types of Golems(crystal, mud, gold, shell, vine, etc.)
More types of fey(more celtic plus other cultures that haven't really been used much or at all)
More Giants(sun, moon, time, fog/mist, crystal, etc.) plus the Shadow giant from the Innersea Bestiary.
More light based creatures(made of light, feed on light/color, can control light, etc.)
A Cyclopes based Titan.
More green(non-fungus/non-mold) plant creatures such as the giant sundew, giant flytrap, etc..
More types of Dragons(5 new true plus other lesser types like more familiar options) plus the dragonkin from the Distant worlds book.
Android
Lashunta
Monkey Goblin
Ghoran
Syrinx
Buraq
Robots(All three from the Innersea Bestiary)
Thin Man
Vetala Vampire
Whirlmaw
Star Monarch
Petrified Maiden
Ceru
I'd prefer my copy of inner sea bestiary weren't made almost completely obsolete while the next Bestiary's space filled with monsters i already have.
I would be fine if the Innersea Bestiary become obsolete like the bonus bestiary. It saves space for me and I like hardcovers a lot better. Plus they already put the races(except Gillmen and Strix) from the ARG in the Bestiary 4, so if they can reprint from another hardcover then why not a Golarion specific book.
A ghost template specific for animals that grants ghost touch for there natural attacks and damage based on there new charisma mod.
Some new 0HD races like a fey touched/blooded race.
More types of Rakshasa.
Those prehistoric horses the size of small dogs plus some megafauna.
Some cacti based plant creatures.
A 0HD plant race that is effected normally by min-affecting effects.
Fey based race that are the ancestors to Gnomes.
Some more types of Robots.(especially one that is like the robot from Forbidden Planet or lost in space TV series)
More creatures from the dimension of dreams(some non-evil ones).
More creatures from movies and pulp comics.
More shapeshifting creatures, like ones that can take the shape of objects like weapons, armor, treasure, etc..
More art themed monsters like ones that use painting, sculpting, pottery, etc. as a weapon or means of defense.
More creatures from myth especially Celtic, Native American(north and south), African, Australian, Japanese, Norse, Russian, and Polynesian.
Some more Kaiju would be nice.
Grendel's Mother would be cool.
More multi-headed dragons except three headed, we have enough of those.
More "tauric" creatures with lower body of tigers, deer, etc..
More types of Tane.
Giants based on non-human races such as Lashunta, Catfolk, Goblins, etc. maybe some of these giants could be from other planets.
More types of lycanthropes(fox, panther, owl, snake, etc.).
I would be fine if the Innersea Bestiary become obsolete like the bonus bestiary. It saves space for me and I like hardcovers a lot better. Plus they already put the races(except Gillmen and Strix) from the ARG in the Bestiary 4, so if they can reprint from another hardcover then why not a Golarion specific book.
The difference here is that with the races from ARG there was at least something added that didn't exist before, that being a statblock for a finished, playable npc, while the ARG still has all the alternate racial traits etc. going for it.
I can also understand reprints from APs and modules, because buying those solely for the monster section is just not economical, and they have much more important content to make them worthwhile.
The bonus bestiary was a free download. You didnt have to spend money to get a copy of that. With the Inner Sea Bestiary however a proper copy had a cost attached to it, be it PDF or print. If the monsters from there would be copied to a core bestiary, the entire purpose of the purchase of that book would be defeated. And people who did buy it effectively lose money, unless they want to skip the next core bestiary.
Yes but there are people that do not buy Golarion specific books, or they only get hardcovers regardless if they are world specific or not, or they just didn't buy the Innersea Bestiary. So reprinting them in a hardcover Bestiary is useful and practical. Also some DMs only allow playable races from hardcover books so that could be a problem as well.
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While I can't be 100% certain of exactly what creatures have already been suggested (or even implemented), I'd personally love some of the following.
Creatures with relations to multiple elemental planes. Beings of smoke and magma would be nice, and races relating to combinations of elements would be cool too!
Perhaps some things to fill out the loveless subtypes of creatures from the ARG? I'd adore more catfolk-, ratfolk-, grippli-, kitsune-, strix-, vanara-, and wayang-subtyped creatures, in entirely new varieties.
More weird variations on races for certain types of areas? There are already drow, duergar, and svirfneblin for down below, and monkey goblins for the jungle, so why not some polar varieties of halflings and catfolk, orangutang hobgoblins, mountainous grippli! The possibilities are limitless.
...Oh bother, this was a mostly race-based post, wasn't it?
Yes but there are people that do not buy Golarion specific books, or they only get hardcovers regardless if they are world specific or not, or they just didn't buy the Innersea Bestiary. So reprinting them in a hardcover Bestiary is useful and practical. Also some DMs only allow playable races from hardcover books so that could be a problem as well.
That seems to be either a marketing or a customer habit problem then, since all creatures in the book can be applied to other settings just as well as all creatures in the core bestiaries, it's just the arbitrary limitation you put on your own purchases that prevents you from just getting the book.
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I was under the impression that the monsters within the Inner Sea Bestiary were intended to stay Golarion specific, and not show up in the setting neutral Bestiaries.
That's why the title of the book was "Inner Sea Bestiary" and not "Small Bestiary to Appease Customers Who Prefer a Bestiary to the NPC Codex".
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If anyone is interested as of post 415 There are approximately 374 Unique creatures named.
This only includes specific monsters/creatures there are several hundred more general suggestions in this thread but I thought it would be interesting to see what the specific ones were.
A Bao A Qu
Abaasy
Abaia
abaki
abhumans
Abominations
Acheri
Actual Squirrels
Adamantine Dragons
Addanc
Afanc
Ahkiyyini
Ah-Muzen-Cab
Aitvaras
Akaname
Akki
alastor
Alicanto
Alp-Luachra
Amanojaku
Amargasaurus
Ammit
Amphicoelias
Anakim
Antaeus or Earth Troll
Argos
Ariel
Arrow Hawk
Asag
Assassin Bug
Astral-folk
Atropal
AtropalAsrai
axe armor
Ayakashi
Azrael
Bacterial entities
Balaur
balloon pod
Barbegazi
Barong
Bat Company
Batibat
Bauk
Bicorn
Black Powder Golem
Blemmyes
blody zombie
Blood Boar
Blood Ooze
Bloody Bones
bloody mary
Blue Tiger
bone ark
Box Jellyfish
Broxa
Buggane
Burricks
Burst Shrimp
Byakhee
Cactus Mantis
Cadejo
Cadrilkasta
Cait Sidhe
Cambrian biota
Candiru Swarm
candyman
Carnivorous dire squirrels
Carnivorous Grass
Carnotaurus
Cayhound
Ceru
charcharodontosaurus
Charnel Collussous
Cherub
Cherufe
Chesire Cat
Chrysaor
Cipactli
Colossal Frog
Colossal Pegasus
common house cat
Con rit
Cookiecutter Shark
corpse creeper
Cthulhu-folk
Cucuy
Cupid
Deadly mantis
Death Mask
Deathwatch Beetle
Decarabia
Demon, Candarian
Demon, Golgothan Excremental
Devil Monkeys
Dhole
Digester
Diplocaulus
Dire Giraffe
Dire Mantis Shrimp
Dire Pistol Shrimp
dislocator monster
Djieien
Dobhar-Chu
Drop Bear
Duivelen
Duwende
Earwigs
Echeneis
Echidna
ectoplasm
Eisheth
Ekek
Elgiza
eloi
Emerald Owls
Empusa
Encantado -
Enenra
Eye of the Deep
Firbolg
Fire Breath Shrimp
Fire Shrimp
fleaman
Fleshdreg Swarm
floating eyeball sphere
Flying Monkeys
Flying Polyp
Fomorian
Force Dragon
Fossegrim
frozen shade
Gaasyendietha
gaibon
Gaki
Gancanagh
Gem Dragons
gemstone Golems
Giant bullet ants
Giant cordyceps fungus
Giant jewel wasp
Giant Sea cubumber
Giant Starfish
Giant Thorncrown Starfish
Giant tongue-eating louse
Giant velvet worm
gibbelins
Gloom
Goggie
Gold Digger Ant
Gorgonopsid
Graeae
Gravedorcus
Grigori
Grimmalkin
Guillotiner
Gump
Gunni
Half-Giant
Haniwa
Harionna
Hawaiian Carnivorous caterpilliar
Heartless Giant
Hiruko
Hunting Horror
Ibbur
Ichneumon
Ihika
Ikiryou
Ikuchi
Indus worm
Infernal Lily
Iron Isopod
Ishim
Itzpapalotl
Itzpapalotl
Iwaosiwake
Jack O' Lantern
Jack Pumpkinhead
Jack-in-Irons
Jester Fey
Jinmenju
Jubokko
Juggernaughts
Kalidah
Kallikantzaros
Kamaitachi
Kampe
Karakasa
Karkadann
Kaw Kaw
kekkai
kercpa
Kerkopes
Khaei
khulan
Kikimora
Knuckle Shrimp
Korir-kokembe
Kuebiko
Kumiho
Ladon
Lailah
Lamed Vuv
Land Wight
Lava Archer Fish
Lava Worm
Lavawight
Lavellan
Legion
Leviathan
Limbo-folk
Longcat
Loxonal
Lust Devl
Magatsuhi
Mahaha
Maiang makiling
Makhai
Malakh
Malk
malphs Magic tome
Mamlambo
Maneater
Mazikeen
mercurial Dragons
Mercury Creature
Minhocao
Mirror Devil (Fetch)
Mokoi
Moldy Corpse
Monarch Archon
Mudmen
Murloc
Myrmecoleon
Nachtkrapp
Namazu
Nargun
Necrophidus
Nekomata
Net Casting Spider
Newt
Nightbloom
Nightgaunt
Nightslitter
Nuo sa punso
Odontotyrannos
ophanim
Orthrus
Ourobouras
Paragon animals
Paragon Creature (template)
Paranoia
Pelesit
Petrified Maiden
Phane
Phantom Sword
Phasm
piasa
Planar Dragons
Planar toads
Polong
Pooka/Puca
Priismatic Butterfly Swarm
Prismatic Dragon
Procoptodon
Protean
Pseudonatural Creature (template)
Pupppet Master
Pyrausta
rahab
Rainbow Serpent
Rarog
Rat King
Ravid
re'em
rephaim
Robots
ruler's Sword
Sandwalker
Sarimanok,
Scarab Beetle
Seraph
Se'rim
Shadhavar
Shadow of the Void
Shamir
Shape of Fire
Shellycoat
Shirk Nettle
Shoadow giant
Shota
Sianach
Sickle Weasel
Sirrush
Siyokoy
Skirr
sky fishers
slogra
Snake-folk
Snallygaster
Snark
sniper of Goth
Sonthonax
Spider-Tailed viper
Spiderweb Golem
Splintercat
Squirrel swarms
Squonk
Stalk Beetle
Star Monarch
Steam Shrimp
Stolas Abaddon
strigoi Vampire
Swanmay
Swarm Maw Fish
swine-thing
Symplegades
Tacgnol
Tailypo
Taniguku
Taniwha
Tanystropheus
Tapejara
Teumessian Fox
tharsis
The Hundred-Handed Ones
The Oinodaemon
The Rak
The Thing
The Wild Hunt
The Woozy
Therizinosaurus
Thin Man
Thraie Abomination
Tikbalang
Tikbalang
Time Dragon
Tin man
Tiyanak
tome Dragon
Trapdoor Spider
Treasure Golem
Tsathoggua
Tsemaus
tyrant Ape
Ugjuknarpak
Umbral Angler Fish
Umbral Blot
Umbral bulk
urogs
Vespergaunt
Vetalal Vampire
Vila
Wakwak
Water Leaper
Water Wraith
Wekufe
Werecrow
werefox
Weresaurian
Wereskunks
Whirlmaw
Wizard Shrimp
Woundwyrm
Wumpus Cat
Wyvaran
Xolotl
Yale
Yara-Ma-Yha-Who
Zephyr
Ziz
Zu
The only creatures from the Innersea Bestiary I consider too world specific to be in a hardcover book would be the unique outsiders and maybe the spawn of Rovagug though the Tarrasque is already in Bestiary I.
Oh and Treeshades this is a wishlist for what people want not what you don't want other people to have so don't be a "sincubus".
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There are several things that come to mind including:
Dragons - as requested before. Most alignments covered except NG & NE:
NG = Adamantine, Battle, Beast, etc.
NE = Orange Dragon (Dragon Compendium Vol. 1), Gray Dragon (Dragon #146), Hex (DR #343)
Wolfwere - wolf turn into human
Werejackal - lycanthrope jackal
Demodand familiar
Lythari - an CG elven version of the werewolf
Hengeyokai - a humanoid with the face of an animal including: Badger, Carp, Cat, Crab, Crane, Dog, Fox, Hare, Monkey, Raccoon dog, Rat, Sparrow, Weasel
Spirit folk - bamboo, river, sea
Yuan-ti halfblood and abomination (nagaji seem to cover purebloods)
More oriental monsters including more Kami
Bakeneko & Nekomata
They aren't joke monsters like Drop Bears are, so I don't understand why they still aren't there, they are the most famous monsters from asia.
I wouldn't say they are the most famous monster from Asia. But they can't put everything that is awesome in one book. There is always a chance for it in Bestiary 5 or an AP
I'd prefer my copy of inner sea bestiary weren't made almost completely obsolete while the next Bestiary's space filled with monsters i already have.Android
Lashunta
Monkey Goblin
Ghoran
Syrinx
Buraq
Robots(All three from the Innersea Bestiary)
Thin Man
Vetala Vampire
Whirlmaw
Star Monarch
Petrified Maiden
Ceru
+1
Reprinting things from the Inner Sea Bestiary (a dedicated Bestiary book), would be like them reprinting goblins from Bestiary 1 for me. Maybe if the bestiary goes out of print, but until then I would prefer to keep hardcover bestiaries focused on new monster + critters from AP's, Campaign Setting books, and Player companions.
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anyone...I have to wonder if Next fall we will see:
NPC codex 2
which will mean another smaller bestiary? I would love a dedicated Mythic Bestiary with the Horsemen, Archdevils, Elemental Lords, Eldest, etc statted, along with some other high end foes.
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Me hi hope,
all other empyreal lord, especially ragathiel
new rakshasa from high level especially mythic
new angels more porwerful of solar like seraphin ( the highest cords of angels who is the exceptionaly the one who is side of god throne like métatron but adapted for pathfinder pantheon)
all others demon lord
colossus
ravanna, king of rakshasa but possibility from guarding this creature for god level like is mythologie ( if one days pathfinder make equivalent of deity and demi-god 3.0 handbook).
That all for now.
Why not just a Bestiary 5 and NPC 2? NPC has much less fans anyway
MMCJawa, reprinting from a softcover world specific book to a world neutral hardcover book is not the same as reprinting goblins from one world neutral hardcover book to another. Not everyone buys ever book so reprinting can be a good thing.
Why not just a Bestiary 5 and NPC 2? NPC has much less fans anyway
I wouldn't be so sure about that. NPC codex won an award at the ennies. It's an incredibly useful book from the GM point of view. And they typically only do...3? setting neutral hardcovers a year (Can't remember if Ultimate Equipment was this or last year).
Strategy Guide and Advanced Class Guide are taking up 2 of those spots we know, and on top of that they are doing Inner Sea Gods. I doubt there is room on the schedule for both books as hardcovers.
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The only creatures from the Innersea Bestiary I consider too world specific to be in a hardcover book would be the unique outsiders and maybe the spawn of Rovagug though the Tarrasque is already in Bestiary I.
Oh and Treeshades this is a wishlist for what people want not what you don't want other people to have so don't be a "sincubus".
While I do agree with the later, 3shades is bringing up a good point. I'm sure some creatures like the Water Wraith or the Whirlmaw could totally be thrown into the Bestiary 5, but they would be making the Inner Sea Bestiary obsolete for the people that spent the money to buy it. Remember, the Bonus Bestiary was free. You can't really compare the two. And personally, I felt the creatures from the Bonus Bestiary were a waste of space in B3, since anyone could get the BB for free.
That all said, I'd like to see the three spheres of angels done. At the very least, the First Sphere (The top three)
Seraphim
Cherubim
Ophanim
Dominions
Virtues
Powers
Principalities
Archangels
I'd be pretty happy.
Why not just a Bestiary 5 and NPC 2? NPC has much less fans anywayI wouldn't be so sure about that. NPC codex won an award at the ennies. It's an incredibly useful book from the GM point of view. And they typically only do...3? setting neutral hardcovers a year (Can't remember if Ultimate Equipment was this or last year).
Strategy Guide and Advanced Class Guide are taking up 2 of those spots we know, and on top of that they are doing Inner Sea Gods. I doubt there is room on the schedule for both books as hardcovers.
Yeah, I've gotten so much usage out of the NPC Codex. Especially when it comes to statting casters, as I never know what spells to give them, or gear because I never know what gear to give people. I would love to see an NPC Codex 2 with the APG/UM/UC classes. Buuuut, I'd also like to see a Bestiary 5 :)
Also, I remember that the Strategy Guide doesn't quite count for the hardcover. In addition, subscribers can opt out of it without cancelling their subscription. That still leaves three hardcovers though (including a Bestiary/Codex), so who knows *shrug*
It doesn't count as a hardcover? I figured part of the reason it was being released was to lighten the load of hardcover work to allow Inner Sea Gods without breaking the devs and editors. Since IIRC Inner Sea gods will be in the campaign line, not the neutral hardcover line.
It doesn't count as a hardcover? I figured part of the reason it was being released was to lighten the load of hardcover work to allow Inner Sea Gods without breaking the devs and editors. Since IIRC Inner Sea gods will be in the campaign line, not the neutral hardcover line.
I could be misinterpreting what they said to be honest. I just remember saying that the Strategy Guide isn't actually a part of the subscription, so it won't be billed to us subscribers when it comes out (unless we want it).
I'm hoping for some of the creatures that have received mentions but no stats, like...
Akyrak (Pathfinder 10: A History of Ashes, pg. 64)
Drake, caustic (Pathfinder 4: Fortress of the Stone Giants, pg. 71)
Drake, lightning (Pathfinder 4: Fortress of the Stone Giants, pg. 71)
Drake, thunder (Pathfinder 4: Fortress of the Stone Giants, pg. 71)
Dream wolf (Guide to Darkmoon Vale, pg. 3)
Elemental, time (The Great Beyond, pg. 50)
Formian, wasp (The Great Beyond, pg. 30)
Ixion worm (Princes of Darkness, pg. 13)
Keld piskie (D0: Hollow's Last Hope. pg. 5)
Kyton, oitos (Princes of Darkness, pg. 24)
Loa spirits (W2: River into Darkness, pg. 18)
Silkgoyle (Guide to the River Kingdoms, pg. 33)
Skullwasp (Elves of Golarion, pg. 18)
Wisagatkak (Princes of Darkness, pg. 18)
Other types of gigas besides the Hell gigas and Abyss gigas (Nirvana and Maelstrom have received passing mentions).
Any of the groupings of dragons mentioned in Pathfinder 4: Fortress of the Stone Giants, pgs. 70-71:
Abomination dragons: Hoarfrost, rot, ruin, rust, suffocation
Humour dragons: Choleric, melancholy, phlegmatic, sanguine
Mineral dragons: Coal, pyrite, silicon, sulfur
Thaumaturgic dragons: Abjuration, conjuration, divination, enchantment, evocation, illusion, necromancy, transmutation
Miscellaneous types: Gray, sin, virtue
Any number of alien races and creatures mentioned in Distant Worlds.
The elemental lords (Ayrzul, Hshurha, Kelizandri, and Ymeri)
Furthermore, now that mythic rules have arrived, it would be awesome to Pathfinderize some creatures from the 3.0 Epic Level Handbook, especially the abominations.
There are several things that come to mind including:
Dragons - as requested before. Most alignments covered except NG & NE:
NG = Adamantine, Battle, Beast, etc.
NE = Orange Dragon (Dragon Compendium Vol. 1), Gray Dragon (Dragon #146), Hex (DR #343)Wolfwere - wolf turn into human
Werejackal - lycanthrope jackal
Demodand familiar
Lythari - an CG elven version of the werewolf
Hengeyokai - a humanoid with the face of an animal including: Badger, Carp, Cat, Crab, Crane, Dog, Fox, Hare, Monkey, Raccoon dog, Rat, Sparrow, Weasel
Spirit folk - bamboo, river, sea
Yuan-ti halfblood and abomination (nagaji seem to cover purebloods)
More oriental monsters including more Kami
Don't know about Wolfweres, Werejackals and Hengeyokai; but the rest of that list is WotC IP and thus a no-go, besides Half-bloods are covered by Serpentfolk and Use an evil Naga if you need an Abomination.
Well I would be happy if the only things they reprinted into a hardcover bestiary from the Innersea Bestiary would be the Android, Lashunta, Ghoran, and Syrinx.
I wouldn't mind if they did a 64 page softcover that had nothing but 0HD races' stats and every x amount of years we would get another to update with reprints and new ones. So at least after a 2-3 books we would have stats for every playable race available.
Still waiting on the dweomercat. I think that would about wrap up my wish list.
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Well I would be happy if the only things they reprinted into a hardcover bestiary from the Innersea Bestiary would be the Android, Lashunta, Ghoran, and Syrinx.
I wouldn't mind if they did a 64 page softcover that had nothing but 0HD races' stats and every x amount of years we would get another to update with reprints and new ones. So at least after a 2-3 books we would have stats for every playable race available.
i wouldn't mind the androids going ogl, cause then they are open to the third arty treatment.
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i wouldn't mind the androids going ogl, cause then they are open to the third arty treatment.Well I would be happy if the only things they reprinted into a hardcover bestiary from the Innersea Bestiary would be the Android, Lashunta, Ghoran, and Syrinx.
I wouldn't mind if they did a 64 page softcover that had nothing but 0HD races' stats and every x amount of years we would get another to update with reprints and new ones. So at least after a 2-3 books we would have stats for every playable race available.
The Androids are OGL already. Pretty much every* rules content published by Paizo in any book is open content as far as names and rules go (Golarion-related lore is closed content). So, as long as the 3PP comes upon with entirely new ecology/background for them that does not infringe on Golarion-related stuff, they can go 'Droid as much as they want.
* notable exceptions include Coeurl, Deep Crow and several Lovecraftian monsters from Wake of the Watcher
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I would love to see something like an elder faerie dragon or such, that is a true dragon (think chromatic, metallic, etc) version of the faerie dragon. That way we could have great wyrm Faerie Dragons that are Gargantuan or such size. Taking the faerie dragon back to its 2nd edition roots of being a true dragon with age categories. I really hate that WotC changed them into pseudodragons with 3rd edition, and Paizo continuing with that.
I do miss Faerie Dragons having age categories but I am fine with them getting no bigger then small or maybe medium size.
It is such a shame they can't reprint the Coeurl and Deep Crow.
I would like to see a Dream Wolf regardless if it is a Pathfinder version of the Moon Dog or a template for dream animals.
I would like to see a lightning, thunder, or storm drake.
Keld Piskie, is that a fey creature?
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For the sake of eye-catching I've included explanations. Assuming anyone reads this wall of text.
Animated armor: We already have medusa heads and regenerating skeletons, what's one more Castlevania staple? There's axe-throwers, spearmen, and big clanky things blocking your way.
Archdevils
-Dispater: Ever since Fires of Dis way back in Planescape he's just always had a way of standing out in the lore. In 3.5 he's a paranoid shut-in, in Pathfinder he's the father of Ragathiel (and on the cover of BotD1), and an entire layer of Hell is part of his character. A must have.
-Mammon: Greed and scarcity are big deals without an archdevil masterminding them, and the fact that he's the real big bad of Council of Thieves is all the more reason to stat him.
-Moloch: He has child soldiers, from the human sacrifices burned in his name. They don't deserve to be in Hell, but they are. Cthulhu is the lesser evil compared to this cosmic horror.
Demon lords
-Haagenti: The demigod of alchemy, invention, and transformation; the only one. Allegedly the inventor of the Philosopher's Stone. There's a definite Science is Bad vibe that I'd like explained, and Haagenti would make a natural foe for a prospective good-aligned demigod(ess) of alchemy, invention, and transformation (like a PC).
-Jubilex: Or however it's spelling its name this time. Surely Paizo can do something with the slime demon besides "oozes around and not much else."
-Socothbenoth: He shows up in the lore enough that you'll have to include him sometime. If you can include half-ogres and incubi and then you can include him. If the Book of Vile Darkness is any indication the most we'll get is "meh" or "ew" -- except from crybabies who'd accuse Paizo of a "terrorist attack."
Empyreal lords
-Arshea: Wanna show your commitment to transfolk? Put the demigod(ess) of them here and damn the busybodies who complain about "inappropriate content."
-Ragathiel: He shows up in the lore often enough, has an interesting backstory (An angel who began as a tiefling?! Kewl.), and may well be someone you'll be fighting besides in a mythic setting.
-Zohls: I just intuitively like her concept as a patron demigoddess for investigators, that and her artwork makes me think of her as the go-to gal for gothic, investigation-heavy APs like Carrion Crown. Also, I wanna see an outsider with an Intelligence score on par with a Runelord.
the Four Horsemen: I know that they're big enough deals that they're being saved for some future AP but I figured I'd express interest.
Harbingers
-Cixyron: Given Paizo's success with Rasputin Must Die! I feel that a tech-orientated harbinger' -- or even a techy outsider, period -- would be well-received.
-Corosbel: On suicide cults, BotD3 says "That their corpses bear smiles on their faces is all the more horrifying." You might as well shout "Heaven's Gate was a daemonic cult!" Intriguing to say the least.
-Pavnuri: Already given some lore, and I just like the way he made a niche for himself. Cacodaemons are such useful little things, and potentially horrific given their ability to damn innocents into the lower planes.
Infernal dukes
-Vapula: Though likely more academic than technical, I'd like to see the diabolical counterpart to Haagenti.
-Zaebos: The demigod of decadent nobility who genuinely see nothing wrong with hurting "lesser classes." More lore-relevant, explicitly worshipped by the vampires of Caiphas (Pathfinder #47, p.28).
-Zephar: Another nightmare for marketing and PR, but they don't get paid to take it easy. Mostly, I'm curious as to how the three areas of concern (rape, abduction, and transformation) go together (outside of porn). Wes said Silence of the Lambs explains it better but all I got was "Buffalo BIll likes woman suits."
Japanese mythology: I will outright admit that I got these ideas from Touhou. Since people may not know what I'm talking about with these examples my notes are more explanatory than argumentative.
-Hakutaku/Bai Ze/Kutabe: Sorta like a kirin, except bovine. Possibly the only ungulate My Little Pony hasn't noticed (yet).
-J izou Statue: Guardians of children and banes of swear filters.
-Menreiki: The spirit of a set of masks. Is it an outsider or a construct?
-Satori: May simply be vanara who're psychic mages in Pathfinder but they're worth a mention.
-Shikeisen: A template for a kind of immortal; the prospective shikeisen performs a body swap with an object except the object becomes a new body and vice-versa. A sabotaged object will result in a ghost.
-Tsuchinoko: I know we can simply reskin a skink to get one but they deserve a place in the lore.
-Tsukumogami: A long-used tool becoming a monster. Paizo'll most likely opt for specific instances (e.g., pipe fox) rather than a generalized template (e.g., animated object) but I feel it's worth suggesting.
-Yama: I know Pathfinder already has judges of the dead but I wanna see how Paizo'll work this into the lore.
-Yamabiko: An echo dog, because we need more monsters with resistance to sonic.
-Yatagaratsu/Jinwu/Samjok-o: A three-legged crow/raven with the power of the sun. Touhou takes to nuclear levels, just the sort of f***ing metal think Paizo would indulge in.
Malbranche
-Alichino: If the cult in Ustilav is any indication then Alichino's the one taking an interest in Golarion. Also, James is a horror fan who's afraid of clowns.
-Malacoda: The favorite of Korvosa's Queen Domina, and because we need another reason to stay away from that city. (Get in line behind Ileosa, House Arkona, Lorthact, and Sorshen… Hey, you think Korvosa's the city Patch was talking about?)
-Rubicante: The one who most resembles his FFIV incarnation with his areas of concern (fire and honor), starting him will make the fans squee if nothing else.
Phasm: I have a soft spot for shapeshifters, though fitting them into the lore will be admittedly tricky.
Robots: Nothing quite says "You're not in generic fantasyland anymore" quite like having to fight robots with swords. Don't complain, we've had robots in RPGs since Final Fantasy 1 and their appearances tend to herald things coming to a head. Besides, can you think of construct types besides golems, clockworks, and animated objects?
Silithilar: Good-aligned aberrations with a fondness for body modification, created by James Jacobs himself. WotC's not using them, I'm sure at worst they won't cost that much to use.
Whore Queens: all of them, since there's only four. They'll probably get stuck in an AP since Ardad Lili's got Plans, and the word "whore" scares the marketing department (I won't forget "dance halls"), but I feel like asking will have some positive effect.
I would love a clockwork template. This would get much use from me.
yeah...doesn't matter. WOTC owns Silithilar and Paizo can't touch them.
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A positive energy creature that forms a symbiotic relationship with a living corporeal creature. It grants some immunities(death effects, energy drain, harmful positive energy planar effects, etc.), fast healing, and the effects of the regenerate spell when they first bond and 1/day after words. It would be an energy creatures and reside inside it's host, more then likely it would incorporeal.
A tiny size dragon that looks like the imperial dragons, grants luck related powers, can be a familiar with the improved familiar feat.
Hopefully the Azi will make it into the next bestiary. Along with some more linnorms, and I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for some Katsinas. :)
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Well for one thing, as a lover of prehistoric beasts I would love to see some more of those. Maybe a Gorgonops?
I would like to see some creatures of Aboriginal legends in there as well.
Also, I feel like some more animal familiars would be nice. Maybe a chameleon, a dragonfly, or a wallaby? As well as more animal companions-I would love to have a tapir companion!
Also, some templates for animals would be cool. I mean, like I would definitely use a cyborg bear or a mutated dire rat in my campaign!
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Yowies would make a good swamp/creek variation of the Sasquatch and Yeti.
Or the Yara-ma-yha-who. This slippery little sucker, makes you shorter every time it eats you!
JiCi wrote:
I might be hated to no end for this but...
+ 5 new chromatic dragons (gray, brown, purple, orange and yellow)
+ 5 new metallic dragons (adamantine, mithral, orium, steel and iron)Perhaps this then (?):
Dragon [Chromatic], Brown (Fire-breathing desert dwelling dragons who often come into conflict with brass, copper, blue, and yellow dragons)
Dragon [Chromatic], Gray (Also known as fang dragons, these electricity-breathing chromatics are just as feral as the whites but no less dangerous)
Dragon [Chromatic], Orange (These jungle-dwelling acid-breathing chromatics are just as spiteful and unsociable as the blacks)
Dragon [Chromatic], Purple (Dwelling almost exclusively in the darklands, these cold-breathing chromatics desire power and control above all else)
Dragon [Chromatic], Yellow (Acid-breathing dragons dwelling in craggy wastelands, they hate copper dragons and are nortorious liars and deceivers)
Dragon [Metallic], Cobalt (These ice-breathing metallics dwell in the frozen north and often take entire communities under their wing in order to make them strong)
Dragon [Metallic], Iron (These electricity-breathing metallics fashion themselves the ultimate hunters of evil and love nothing more than to stalk a fiend for days then slay it)
Dragon [Metallic], Mercury (These fire-breathing metallics value knowledge above all else and desire to folster learning and the spread to lore throughout the world)
Dragon [Metallic], Orium (These acid-breathing metallics often dwell in ancient ruins and seek to protect the future by preserving the past; preventing intruders from plundering and debasing their forgotten homes)
Dragon [Metallic], Steel (Often refered to as song dragons, these acid-breathing metallics love to dwell in humanoid-communities and have a fondness for humanoid food)
Just some ideas for ya but don't get me wrong, 10 chromatics and 10 metallics are enough for me.
That could work too ^_^
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I have a collosal wish list. Lets start with the native american creatures, since there aren't that many of those in PF.
Chenoo: Huge, brutish stone giants, often depicted with a rhinoceros like horn.
Binaye Ahani: Creepy twin limbless demons with a basilisk like stare.
Djieien: Gigantic camel spider like monster. Size huge at least.
Ewah: A hideous demon whose very sight would cause insanity.
Ganiagwaidhegowa: A monstrous furless bear monster.
Gowrow: Vicious tusked lizardlike dragon. I think it's a cryptid.
Haakapainzi: Giant carnivorous grasshopper with a taste for children's flesh.
Horned Alligator: Just what you'd think, cool amphibious beastie.
Hvcko Capko: Wolf/horse hybrid with huge ears.
Kiwahkw: Undead ice giants.
Iya: Gigantic, undescribed storm controlling beast/demon.
Piasa: Winged antlered dragon with a manticore like head.
Jokao: Cannibal giants with pangolin like stone scales.
Stcemqestcint: Buffalo people who could transform into trees. A treant/minotaur hybrid?
Tcipitckaam: Shape shifting sea serpent with a unicorn head.
Teehooltsoodi: Giant bull horned otter beast.
Trelquehuecuve: Giant octopus with huge ears and clawed tentacles.
Thelgeth: Shaggy headless giant.
Tsenahale: Harpy like demons.
Tsiatko: Giant twig blight creatures.
Uktena: A dreaded horned sea/lake serpent.
Wakandagi Pezi: Water dragon with hooves and deer antlers.
Yeitso: Ancient anthropophagous pangolin scaled giant
Letiche: Aka the Honey Island Swamp Monster, shaggy brute often described with crab pinchers.
Ozark Howler: Monstrous horned werewolf like cryptid.
Aniwye: Huge dire skunk.
Delgeth: Vicious carnivorous demon antelope.
Hotawa'e: Bison minotaurs.
What!?
No Pink Dragon?
Outrageous!
The thing is the Pink Dragon was actually created as an April's Fool joke by WotC for their Dragon Magazine.
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Another thing I want to see in the Bestiary 5 is a creature that is similar to the cryptid the devil monkey-a baboon like creature with unbelievable acrobatic abilities, immense strength, and a vicious thirst to kill. If there was a similar creature in Pathfinder (most likely a magical beast, but it could also be a humanoid or an animal) I would use it.
Also, winged lions and winged wolves would be cool to see.
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There are creatures from mythology which everybody knows.
Sometimes they are paradoxically well-known for their obscurity. Tsuchinoko, anyone?
Some other times the monsters aren't remembered very often. I am always happy when I see a hekatonkheir in a work.
And then there are things that nobody knows. So, without further ado...
Lox. He's an evil trickster from Abenaki Native American folklore, who looks like a hybrid of wolverine, badger and beaver, and can take the form of any one of these. He was created by the evil twin of Glooscap, the Abenaki creator-god. He's also a sufferer of chronic backstabbing disorder (he betrayed his creator very quickly when he wasn't rewarded for something), and desires pigeon wings to fly.
Have any of you ever heard of Lox? No? Didn't think so!