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Carnotaurus. James you need to make this happen.


Goggie

The Goggie is a giant fey with the form of a giant feral Catterpillar, it devoures everything that steals from the forest and who abuse unripe fruits.

Some more info on the Gancanagh I forgot to mention:

- Their name means Love Talker.

- Like changelings they have two different eyes, one bright blue and one bright green eye, this may be a clue to their origin, Hags or Witches are probably behind their creation.

- All Gancanagh's look 100% the same as if they are all twins, only their clothes are different of course. Gancanagh are each others concurrents and they never work together, but they do respect eachothers beauty and would never kill another of their kind.

- Some other abilities are: Summoning Mist, animate rose vines or summon vampiric roses, they can implant suggestions into someones brain, create illusions by touch, it's Aura brings bad luck with it, a charming voice and they silence nature with their aura, birds stop singing ect.

- They lack a shadow and a mirror reflection, however they can see themselves in the reflection of water, and many carry a special water mirror (A magical mirror) with them to feed their vanity.

- As a pasttime hobby they enter pubs, inns and churches and make skin contact with the female workers (nuns, barmaidens, whores) there to cause chaos as they randomly start to attack males and other women with sharp objects to protect the Gancanagh.

- Because of their vanity and narcissism they pretty much always confess what they have done and many of them are in Golarion jails, even more escape from time to time with their poison words and illusion spells, only to be caught in another town for the same crimes. The Gancanagh couldn't care less as they are immortal and they only fight when they are threated with death by the guillotine for example.

- More powerful Gancanagh have learned themselves to spread their addictive pheromones through the air creating a aura of pheromones that affect all females in its reach.

- The only female creatures they adore and hold dear (and would never use) are the poisonous Vishkanya. The reason for this is unknown, but it probably has something to do with the poison the Vishkanya use as Gancanagh enjoy the use of poison to, and many worship poison gods.

- Springheel Jacks, Quicklings and Redcaps often serve the Gancanagh without fear for their own lives, they think of Gancanaghs as Fey Deities that need to be served whenever needed, the Gancanagh only enjoy the service of the Quicklings as they are deemded "worthy" and gracefull creatures, but they do enjoy the bloodlust of Redcaps and Springheels as well, tho they often torture them if they are bored, and Gancanagh's are bored pretty easily.

From Wiki
- The Gancanagh are thought to have an addictive toxin in their skin that make the humans they seduce literally addicted to them. The women seduced by this type of faerie typically die from the withdrawal, pining away for the Ganacanagh's love or fighting to the death for his love

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Carnotaurus. James you need to make this happen.

And does the Carnotaurus have to become invisible like in Jurassic Park? haha


Gancanagh, Giant fey caterpillar ...that turns into a moth Kaiju.


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Gloom


If they turn the Goggie blue and give him illusion, future vision and smoke abilities it could pass for the Catterpillar from Alice in Wonderland. :-D


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Have i mentioned Amphicoelias before? Becase it definitely needs to happen. Being the biggest land animal to have ever been discovered and all.

Also what lizardmage said about Carnotaurus.

And charcharodontosaurus.


Really what you need to do James/Paizo is just give us that Dinosaur book we keep pressing for. Admit it, you know you want too, I also want the Charcharodontosaurus.


I want Therizinosaurus and Tanystropheus, the two dinosaurs (and pre-dinosaurs) that really stand out with their appearance.

Too bad these two (pre)dinosaurs both begin with the T... so if together in a bestiary one will suffer from picturelessness (new word) so I prefer both in another Bestiary, one maybe in an AP bestiary (with picture) and the other in bestiary 4 or 5.

If I have to choose between these two coolies I have to go for the Therizinosaurus, those claws man, just those claws! Look at them now!

If Tanystropheus ever makes it in a bestiary, I hope they overreact the size of the neck, make it extra long and make it a more fierce carnivore than it really is, one that hunts much like the scylla from legend, grabbing sailors from their boats from atop of their cliff homes.


I would also like to have stats for the Therizinosaurus and the Tanystropheus.


I wouldn't be opposed if they made the Carnotaurus the ultimate chamaleon like it was in the Lost World book Gancanagh. I'd be fine if they just put it out without a camoflauge ability. I just think it would be a cool dinosaur to toss in :)...or be a cool dinosaur for a lead into a Dinosaur book.

Just saying Valeros charging down an enemy on a Carnotaurus looks mighty bad ass.


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More unusual types of dragons such as...
-One that is subterranean, can burrow through solid rock, natural attacks like adamantine(ignores hardness), is light sensitive.
-Multi-headed ones with different breath weapons or there breath weapons can combine into something more dangerous.
-Can shoot spikes, spines, scales, etc. from it's body
-Can become invisible as the pixie natural invisibility ability.
-More unusual breath weapons like jets of water, hurricane force wind, earth/stone, light beams, petrification gas, magical aging, baleful polymorph gas, electrical energy that magnetizes objects/creatures, positive energy, sound waves, charm gas, dispel magic, etc..
-Eats metal or causes it to rust like a rust monster.
-Has a Gaze attack such as charm, confusion, etc..
-Likes to invade peoples dreams, is from the world of dreams, or can control peoples dreams.
-Is always surrounded by bad weather such as rain, mist, fog, snow, etc..

I would like to see some stuff like what you can find on the How to train your dragon and the TV series based on it.


LizardMage wrote:

I wouldn't be opposed if they made the Carnotaurus the ultimate chamaleon like it was in the Lost World book Gancanagh. I'd be fine if they just put it out without a camoflauge ability. I just think it would be a cool dinosaur to toss in :)...or be a cool dinosaur for a lead into a Dinosaur book.

Just saying Valeros charging down an enemy on a Carnotaurus looks mighty bad ass.

Haha well I really like the Carnotaurus, but with the Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus the Carnotaurus would be just another one of those + horns... but with the same attitude, eat and hunt.

So giving it the chameleon ability would make it something different than the other big predators.

But I know JJ don't like to do stuff with the dinosaurs, he likes them neutral as they are in ancient times, mostly I agree, but some could be an exeption like Tanystropheus and Carnotaurus, maybe Dilophosaurus as well.

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Also:

I've seen that BOOK OF BEASTS have used a creature named Addanc, its a croc/beaver that I know under the name Afanc.

In every monsterbook I see an Afanc/Addanc they are always kinda spoiled into very simple creatures, the croc part takes over from the more interesting beaver part...

Death Roll? Whirlpool? Bite attacks?

Really can nobody do something more creative with this creature?
It is a beaver creature and what do beavers best? Yes, being creative.

In the case of this beaver monster, being creative with the leftovers of its poor prey.
Like a normal beaver uses wood for its dams, the Afanc would use the bones of its victims to build dams and traps, or maybe wood taken from its favorite preys namely Leshies, Treants and Dryads, creatures that hunt afancs with passion.

The Afanc could also be a creature that creates incredible difficult traps and even weapons for other evil creatures, their creativity is highy sought after by demon lords and high undead alike.

That would be a cool Afanc, at least much better than some giant fish monster from D&D or a crocodile that has some beaver features but still has death roll and other crocodile abilities and nothing else, in that case you could just use Sewer Alligators, they do 100% the same.

Speaking about sewers, legends about the sewer alligators on Golarion could come from Afancs living in the sewers, scheming and plotting against the humans living above in the streets, setting evil traps for them or luring them down as they stopped the water supplies from reaching the city.

The Afanc is a beaver with crocodile features, its the creativity and intelligence of the beaver mixed with the feral attitude and bloodlust of the crocodile.


Gancanagh wrote:
LizardMage wrote:

I wouldn't be opposed if they made the Carnotaurus the ultimate chamaleon like it was in the Lost World book Gancanagh. I'd be fine if they just put it out without a camoflauge ability. I just think it would be a cool dinosaur to toss in :)...or be a cool dinosaur for a lead into a Dinosaur book.

Just saying Valeros charging down an enemy on a Carnotaurus looks mighty bad ass.

Haha well I really like the Carnotaurus, but with the Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus the Carnotaurus would be just another one of those + horns... but with the same attitude, eat and hunt.

Allosaurus has bite, 2 claws, grab, pounce and rake; T-Rex has a single bite, grab and swallow whole and is a whole size category larger.

They are hardly similar.

Carnotaurus would come with a headbutt, bite and probably bull rush ability. I think it has a place even without silly nonsensical abilities.


Uhm Mr.Threeshades, the horns on this meat bull dinosaur you hold so dear aren't for charging and headbutts, that is for the Pachycephalosaurus, and even there scientist aren't that sure anymore.

So bull rush and horn attacks on the Carnotaurus would be just as silly and nonsensical as the invisibility story of jurassic park.

:-)

Silver Crusade

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Gancanagh wrote:

Uhm Mr.Threeshades, the horns on this meat bull dinosaur you hold so dear aren't for charging and headbutts, that is for the Pachycephalosaurus, and even there scientist aren't that sure anymore.

So bull rush and horn attacks on the Carnotaurus would be just as silly and nonsensical as the invisibility story of jurassic park.

:-)

Yeah, but we're talking about a fantasy bestiary, not biology handbook, Mr. Formerly Known as Sincubus :)


Gorbacz wrote:
Gancanagh wrote:

Uhm Mr.Threeshades, the horns on this meat bull dinosaur you hold so dear aren't for charging and headbutts, that is for the Pachycephalosaurus, and even there scientist aren't that sure anymore.

So bull rush and horn attacks on the Carnotaurus would be just as silly and nonsensical as the invisibility story of jurassic park.

:-)

Yeah, but we're talking about a fantasy bestiary, not biology handbook, Mr. Formerly Known as Sincubus :)

Mr.Sincubus-hater

You should know that JJ don't like to turn dinosaurs into fantasy creatures with unique abilities, he wants to stay true to the original dinosaurs and their original behaviors.

If it was for me tho, most dinosaurs gained some flavor and strange abilities, but its not.

Edit
I must correct myself on the Carnotaurus, back in the 80ties and 90ties when I was still a little kid and INSANE about dinosaurs, the books never ever showed me signs of Carnotaurus doing anything with their horns other than attract females or display.

But now on Wikipedia I read about Carnotaurus being a real carnivorous bull in the way it uses its EXTREMLY small horns for bullfights with other males and even for hunting?

I like the Carnotaurus a little bit better now as it does seem its not just another Rex with horns.
Bravo, many things have changed from the time I still did nothing else than playing with my dinosaur dolls! (for the good)

There are even 3 new cool dinosaurs discovered that weren't in 90ties books yet.

1#
Amargasaurus
A strange sauropod with huge spines along its neck.

2# Balaur
A new raptor with multiple razor claws than just the 2 normal Deinonychus and Velociraptors had. Balaur is also a hydra-like dragon in mythology btw.

and 3#
Tapejara
A flying reptile with an insane crest on its head.

I would like these 3 in any bestiary in the future, they are pretty cool, however I prefer the Balaur dragon version, this new Raptor could come with another name right?


Gancanagh wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Gancanagh wrote:

Uhm Mr.Threeshades, the horns on this meat bull dinosaur you hold so dear aren't for charging and headbutts, that is for the Pachycephalosaurus, and even there scientist aren't that sure anymore.

So bull rush and horn attacks on the Carnotaurus would be just as silly and nonsensical as the invisibility story of jurassic park.

:-)

Yeah, but we're talking about a fantasy bestiary, not biology handbook, Mr. Formerly Known as Sincubus :)

Mr.Sincubus-hater

You should know that JJ don't like to turn dinosaurs into fantasy creatures with unique abilities, he wants to stay true to the original dinosaurs and their original behaviors.

If it was for me tho, most dinosaurs gained some flavor and strange abilities, but its not.

Edit
I must correct myself on the Carnotaurus, back in the 80ties and 90ties when I was still a little kid and INSANE about dinosaurs, the books never ever showed me signs of Carnotaurus doing anything with their horns other than attract females or display.

But now on Wikipedia I read about Carnotaurus being a real carnivorous bull in the way it uses its EXTREMLY small horns for bullfights with other males and even for hunting?

I like the Carnotaurus a little bit better now as it does seem its not just another Rex with horns.
Bravo, many things have changed from the time I still did nothing else than playing with my dinosaur dolls! (for the good)

i would be sorely disappointed if the carnotaurus didnt use that stout, reinforced neck of his for a little bit of headbutting because that seems to be what it was made for.


I hope the Carnotaurus gets larger horns in Pathfinder tho, but that is probably a wish that never sees the light of days.

I think the current horns are a bit too short for fighting.

While just a stupid toy THIS carnotaurus has the right size horns, much better than those extremly small horns the real carnotaurus seems to have, with those horns it wouldn't even win from a common house, garden and kitchen cow.


Carnotaurus would be interesting and different if it had a headbutt attack, it doesn't need made up abilities though.

I also do not want made up dinosaurs or ant type of dinosaur that hasn't been confirmed to exist.

Shadow Lodge

So, Sincubus/Gancanagh, have you take a look at Tome of Horrors 4 yet? I know you can't be bothered with the ToH Complete since it's art is B&W, but ToH 4 is in full color.


Where can I download the PDF of TOH4 sweet-skull-of-mine? :-p

Or if its not out yet, where can I find info?

And BTW, I already have the TOH Complete edition. I kinda liked it, spare for the art and the HORRIBLE versions of the Bloody Bones and Afanc.

Shadow Lodge

At the Frog God Games website, of course!


Kthulhu wrote:
At the Frog God Games website, of course!

Hmmm I just checked out the entire list of monsters that appear in the TOH4 and I must say i'm disappointed (mostly) by that list...

There are too much "simple" creatures on that list that I really don't like, the many different lesser and greater Weirds are really not necessary for example, the normal Weirds from the TOH complete did a great job already no need to do all that elemental-stuff of lesser and greater about them.

And then some names like: Shadow Dire Bear, Lesser Banshee, Bronze Minotaur, Dire Fox, Fisherman, Fungus Man, Fungus Man King, Spitting Gargoyle, Gelatinous Emperor, Hag Nymph, Horde Zombie, Werewolverine, Undead Mimic, Ghoul Monkey, Sealwere, Undead Troll, War Flower, Feral Vampire Spawn, Undead Fire Elemental and Dire Worg...
Those are monsters i'm really not a fan off... really think those are too simple.

I'm very surpised tho to see the Crimson Death in that list, does that mean that Wizard of the Coast lost their hold and copyright from that creature? If that is true and the Crimson Death is really the mist creature from D&D then it will be also on my Bestiary 5 wish list! The Crimson Death makes the perfect high CR variant of the Vampiric Mist, I would like the Crimson Death to be CR 14 (not so much creatures that are CR 14)


Lavellan Update.

The Scottish Lavellan which is just as poisonous as 3 Girtablilu's + 6 Poison Arrow Frogs + 4 Giant Black Widow Spiders + 1 Death Worm combined together is the most poisonous creature Golarion has ever known.

The creature is so poisonous that evolution granted it a poisonous aura, so while the Lavellan is just as big as a large dog its éxtremly poisonous aura stretches far beyond that.

Even creatures immune to poison become sick from the Lavellans poison.

While much smaller than other powerful creatures the Lavellan is CR 14 because of its deadly nature.

Vishkanya's ADORE the Lavellan and its their favorite pet creature, they have found antidotes against its poison and so can handle and ride them into battle.

Lavellans appear as pony sized rat-like mutant creatures with sick dark green skin and even sicker green hairs, some patches are hairless cuz the extreme poison of the creature prevents some skin to be grown by hair.

The Lavellans bite and claw attacks bring the worst poison, their aura is also very bad but not as deadly as their fang and claw attacks. Even if you touch the hairs or skin of the creature you get poisoned so fighting them may prove very difficult. Ranged weapons are most effective against them.

After a Lavellan dies it releases a poisonous cloud, their corpse rots extremly fast and the area around the corpse starts to wither and die soon after, plants in the area die and the soil grows blackish and greenish, even after the corpse has fully disappeared into the soil the scars of the poisons are seen years later as the area around it turned into a filthy wasteland that became unfit for any life to grow or live on.

Normal water heals and removes the poisonous abilities of the creature for a while, this is for the better cuz Lavellans love to swim, and if their poison would spread through water most aquatic creatures would have been dead by now.

There are no creatures known that are immune to its poison, and no creature hunts the Lavellan willingly, even ancient dragons die when they would eat a Lavellan or a corpse killed by a Lavellan.


Water Leaper
Tsathoggua
Taniguku (Toad-like wandering Kami)
Kuebiko (wise Kami of Scarecrow)
Xolotl


A toad-like kami and scarecrow kami sound interesting.


Á Bao A Qu

A creature so vain, vanity smurf will die out of jealousy.

I know the real (100% based on the real myth) A boa A qu will NEVER happen in pathfinder, and i'm happy for that, but the creature has potential on other levels.

This could be an extremely vain (Snievan, Vega, Vanity Smurf level) based intelligent ooze creature that takes the form of a Imperial Sky Dragon but all in heavenly blue ooze/goo.

The creature feeds on charisma and the more charisma, beauty and arrogance it absorbs the more dragon-like this ooze becomes.

The A boa a qu goal in life is to become the perfect being of pure beauty and grace, it views dragons as perfect beings, both strong and beautiful and so it takes the form of one of the more charismatic dragons the Imperial Sky Dragon.

It often stalks creatures with high charisma and slowly drains the charisma away when it stalks/follow these creature unnoticed.

The A Boa A Qu is CR 14 and is an Ooze, neutral evil and extremely vain.


Found two new creatures thanks to Deviantart.

These two (A grasshopper and Blood creature) come both from Malay Mythology.

They could make good Div or Asura type creatures, as they would be too much like other Demons and Devils.

Polong the blood creature

And Pelesit the locust creature

Pelesit would be monstrous grasshoppers or mantis creatures with humanoid faces and big sabers on the end of their body, and the Polong would be an animated blood creature that grows when it feeds on blood.


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Yet another crazy-ass bug that should get a giant adventurer-eating version in Pathfinder:

The Hawaiian Carnivorous Caterpillar


Michael Gentry wrote:

Yet another crazy-ass bug that should get a giant adventurer-eating version in Pathfinder:

The Hawaiian Carnivorous Caterpillar

OMG, I so love that creature! What it lacks in physical beauty, it makes up with elegance and grace of killing other creatures.

I want one for Christmas! (in a pathfinder bestiary, doesn't mind which one)

The things you can do with a Dire or Magical version of that Caterpillar! *faints*


More dragons.

No seriously, I want more dragons. I can't fully chime in on what dragons I want them to do since I've yet to see what the "Outer Dragons" in B4 are going to be, but I'd like to see more "types" of dragons. Harkening back to Dragon Magazine, pulling on things like Mercurial Dragons, Adamantine Dragons, or my personal favorite the Tome Dragon, or maybe even into some more "Epic" varities, Time, Force, and Prismatic.

Also, I'd like to see a bit more of these legendary monsters/beings (I'm still waiting on Baba Yaga to be statted, unless I missed her somewhere.), maybe some more Archdevils and the like, and some Archangels to match them! I dunno, guess I'm a "go big or go home" kinda guy.


I would like the Time, Force, and Prismatic dragons as mythic creatures.

I would like stats for the carnivorous caterpillar, also like that poisonous one found in south America. I would also like the stats for that species of snail that eats other snails.


I would also love a Lava Worm creature, and not such a low CR creature such as the Thoqqua, but more like a purple worm level Lava Worm creature.


Some more worm based monsters would be nice such as lava, storm/wind, crystal, stone(w/ petrifying bite), slime(acidic slime), aguatic(w/ stinging tentacles like a sea anemone or covered in coral), ethereal or dimension based, and maybe a giant worm made of a swarm of worms but intelligent/hive mind.


Maybe also an Albino Worm living in water/sea that is based on the Cryptid Indus Worm.

Some worm with dragon blood/features called Lambton is also cool, this would be a dragon type creature but with the appearance of a dragon-like worm.

And then there is this Black Jungle Worm called Minhocão who is pitch black and which is covered in Armadillo or pangolin armor.


Here,s something: how about butterflies, moths and such creatures?


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Monstrous moths/butterflies would be nice.


Fuzzy Lumpkin


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The Gloomwing is so cool and can also fall in for the Giant Moth (I mean as Giant Mosquito's are CR 6, why Giant Moths can't be CR 4?)

So I don't really wish for an ordinairy Giant Moth, rather see some magical moths, maybe one for the Negative and positive planes?

Butterflies I see on the side of Agathions and other Celestials.

Maybe a Prismatic Butterfly Swarm, that acts to evil creatures much like a Hellwasp Swarm acts to good creatures. I would love a butterfly Agathion or Archon.

Also some illusion using giant Butterfly would be nice, or maybe a killer butterfly, or maybe Itzpapalotl the aztec godess that is a skeleton with butterfly wings, could make a good creature much like the QUetzalcouatl god turned into the Couatl, cuz I don't want the Itzpapalotl be wasted as a God or unique creature.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

Ramsey Campbell had a pretty cool moth monster in "The Brood" which would be a cool basis for a Pathfinder monster.


More types of Gigas, we only have the Abyssal and Hell ones so far and they were stated up ages ago.


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We need some monsters from other literature:

Swine-things and abhumans from William Hope Hodgson

Gibbelins from Dunsany


Well how old does a book have to be to be considered public domain?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

I think it varies by year of death and whether new copyright legislation came in that extended a work before it entered public domain.

But I believe William Hope Hodgson and Dunsany should be fair game.

Also: we have morlocks, so Eloi would be nice as well.


I really want a creature based on Bloody Mary or the Candyman. A creature you can summon to kill another for you through mirrors, but with a nasty side-effect that you will be the next target after the mirror monster has killed your choosen victim.

I like the looks of BLoody Mary more than the Candyman, I believe the Hellwasp Swarm already takes care of the looks of the candyman.

Also more Fey who aren't pretty things or cute winged butterfly stuff. More Nuckelavee and Kelpies, that's why Its a shame the hags, will o wisp and Dullahan aren't fey, they would have made some more non-pretty cool fey.

Also something looking like this: Dinotaur/Raptaur Maybe this being some Lashunta variant, or cursed Lashunta or anything Lashunta.


More pretty or cute fey, some good, some evil, and some in between.

if we were going to have a Lashunta variant then it should be a species of giant. Also more then likely anything Lashunta related would be in a campaign specific book.

I do agree that hags and willow wisp should have been fey, I am fine the dullahan's undead status.

But Eloi are really close to human, what traits would make them different then standard humans?

Any other creatures from literature you like to see MMCJawa? Also have a description of them and what book they are from.


What I meant to say is that 98% of the fey are humanoids, I want more NON humanoid fey.

And there aren't many pretty fairy's (from real mythology/folkore) left to pick from.

Vila is the last the pretty fey creatures not yet used, and they are evil to make up for the butterfly powerpuff cute wings things most fey seem to need.


A new class of creatures called Duivelen (sing. Duivel) based on the weird devil-fey depicted in the paintings of C15th painter Hieronymus Bosch - you can google his name for a stack of images.


Bosch's paintings are already primary inspiration for devils, demons and kytons.


Duivel? That is a dutch word for Devil? :-p

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