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Damn they are just out in bestiary 4, how can you be disappointed at a lack of Kaiju...
I agree there should be new kaiju in every new bestiary (3 or 4 new each book as they take up a lot of space) but they are new, they can't be lacking.
The only thing that really lacks is Protean, they are around since Bestiary 2 and there are only very few of them.
There is a creature from Bavaria called Elwetritsch. It would be great to see one since it would certainly have a low CR. I heard that although the bestiary 4 monsters were cool, many were not usable due to massive CR.
There is another silly little creature called a Wolpertinger. It is similer to the jackalope.
Here I a link to the creature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger
Does the Bestiary 4 have a Zaratan yet? It always bothered me that there was no Zaratan. I know the Zaratan from the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Monstrous Manual. It is a giant sea turtle that is also an island. It appears to be a CR 20 magical beast.
I always love the golems. How about these?
-dwarven
-aquatic
-any metal
-ballista
-crystal
-forge
-(roof) shingle
That's all that I came up with.
Can we get a giant chicken that breathes fire at people?
So imagine a giant spider. but instead of a spider's face it has the massive mouth and hanging lantern of an angler fish. Give it two or more giant pail eyes. Then it also has fin like ears and a scaled abdomen. I want it to live in deep caves in the mountains.
Give it some of these traits.
-amphibious
-large or giant
-evil alignment
-some elusion magic like abilities
The Wolpertinger is in one of the shattered star APs.
We could get a fire breathing chicken but I think that one would be better as a template creature example. The template would make animals into magical beast with a list of abilities you can choose from.
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I already use the Inuit Amarok which is also a huge wolf.
I never felt anything for Fenrir being a group of creatures, I like it as unique Amarok.
Fenrir = (Mythic Magical Beast or Outsider) (CR 29) (Gargantuan or Colossal) (Chaotic Evil I guess) (Fenrir is a Mythic wolf creature probably the first Amarok to have ever walk the earth.) (Many Gods and deities fear the Fenrir, even Demon Lords rather see the beast dead, too bad the creature is immortal and can't be killed by any known means.) (Fenrir is chained inside a immense cave with chains created by the crafty Dactyl, it is said some non-insane Dactyls are working together with the most crafty of cyclops to create a weapon that can finally lay the beast to rest.) (Amarok, Winter Wolves and other canine creatures hear the beast talk to them with telepathy and through these creatures the beast can act like it is free, giving them grizzly tasks.)
FENRIR VS. TARASQUE! WHO WOULD WIN?
Both are indestructible and have close to limitless strength!
I like you Iron Paint, you know your mythology/folklore :-)
Wolpertinger is in a AP, but I would like it to be one of the creatures that get into bestiary 5 + new artwork.
Dwarven Golem can be the Dactyl, Duergar that got insane with replacing their own flesh with magical metal and became golems in the end.
(PS Vanity Smurf)
Fey creatures like the ones from the movie "Don't be afraid of the dark"(2011).
Fey, monstrous humanoids, and magical beast that can spawn other creatures to serve them.
Metamorph, small magical beast that change into anything around it's own size(tiny to medium) even objects.
A flying pig with magical powers.
More magical beast that are a combination of two animals like the Owlbear.
More powerful shapechanger creatures in general, can keep there immunities, resistances, fast healing and other abilities in any the forms they take.
Flying fish magical beast that "swims' through the air and can be used as a mount.
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Damn they are just out in bestiary 4, how can you be disappointed at a lack of Kaiju...
I agree there should be new kaiju in every new bestiary (3 or 4 new each book as they take up a lot of space) but they are new, they can't be lacking.
The only thing that really lacks is Protean, they are around since Bestiary 2 and there are only very few of them.
It was obviously missed, but that post needed a *sarcasm*. There are plenty of Kaiju (4 I believe, 3 in B4 and 1 in an AP), and a 0HD Kaiju defeats the point of Kaiju. How many campaign big bad monsters does one really need?
I can't agree more about the proteans! A whole race of outsiders written up in B2 and we only have 4 of them with stat blocks? I've said it before in this thread, but the law vs. chaos spectrum is lacking, especially when you look at LN and CN outsiders.
I'd like to see more oozes, though I realize how hard it is to come up with distinct "blob of bad stuff" creatures. After awhile, they all sort of run together and look the same.
EDIT: smurf me!
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more linorms
Super smurfs
Any monsters that are immune to magic is fine really. Like an anti-mage monster race that heals everytime they are being effected by a harmful spell equal to the amount of damage or DC which ever the highest while not taking the effect by those spells. However, spells that are not affecting them, or with no saves, are still effective.
Just because I don't want to leave a thread sitting with a final post dated Friday the 13th (no, not really)...
Do we even know if there will be a Bestiary 5 this year? I suppose there's still time; my most recent catalog includes the Bestiary 4 at October 2013... but I haven't seen a Bestiary 5 come up for preorder on the website yet, and this makes me sad. :'-(
An official response to this would be awesome, but I'll happily settle for speculation. :-)
It looks like the Monster Codex is taking up the Bestiary slot, although I suppose we could get a 64 page softcover Bestiary like Inner Sea Monsters.
As far as new requests, I wouldn't mind some new Fey inspired by the creatures in Maleficent.
I am sure we will get a Bestiary 5...eventually:)
There might be a chance of another 64 page bestiary as well like MMCJawa said. I am still hoping for a Distant World Bestiary or one focusing on one of the other continents like Tian Xia or Arcadia.
Well can never have too many fey though elementals are still way behind. Heck there are less(maybe not even half) creatures with the elemental subtypes then there ones with the demon subtype.
Given Numeria is the fall AP, I would expect a Distant Worlds bestiary as being more likely than a Tian Xia one. Not that I have any idea at all whether we will get any 64 page Bestiary.
Demons are also James Jacob's favorite outsider...which factors in quite a bit in why we have so many of them. That and they and have a long history in the game.
My main wish is that Bestiary 5 will come out no later then by the end of next year.
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In the interest of adding more creatures to this thread:
Several recent threads pointed out a problematic discrepancy: There are a lot of attractive "female" creatures whose gimmick is seducing men (and yes...sometimes women), but very few creatures that represent attractive "male" with the same gimmick.
People argued that their absence is largely driven by their absence in mythology. which is somewhat true. However, there are some creatures that Paizo hasn't worked on that fill this niche. Note that I am deliberately avoiding the more Satyr-like creatures, which may inspire lust in women but might be considered less attractive. Also this list is far from comprehensive...I am sure a lot of good creatures are still missing, as my sampling of critters for my notes tends to be random and opportunistic.
Seductive and romantic monsters
Amorini = Cupid like spirits of love
Baiste-na-scoghaigh = Shape-shifting lumbering monoceros like beast from the Isle of Skye; propagates race by taking the form of a man and mating with female humans; may kill and mimic different men
Couril = Cornwall/France; tiny fairies with webbed feet and malignant disposition; inhabit ruins and stone circles; can teleport between different standing stones; enjoy dancing, and can force people to join this, which results in death by exhaustion for mortals; often leave maidens pregnant, with the offspring always resembling a village lad.
Encantado = Amazon; Shapeshifting Fairy folk who can take the form of river dolphins. Come from a magical underwater realm called encante. excellent musicians who enjoy parties which they infilitrate to seduce women; crave the pleasures and hardships of mortal life. Can be distinguished in human form by the presence of a blowhole. Can control storms, ensorcel humans to do their will, inflict insanity and illness. Most powerful at twilight; often kidnap people for company.
Gancanagh = Irish Love Talker; male Fey whose touch would completely enthrall a women with lust, to the point that if denied they will pine away and die
Glashtin/Glashtyn = Manx water horse or goblin; appears as a handsome youth with curly hair and pointed ears; attracts victims than shapeshifts into true form to drag them underwater and eat them; only active at night and must return to watery haunts at dawn
Katsura-otoko = Japanese/Chinese; Man in the moon, who spends every night pruning the lunar grove of katsura trees. Incomparably beautiful; beckons to moongazers, and with each beckon shortens their life.
Kishi = Angolan; two-faced demon, with an attractive man’s face in the front and a hyena’s face in the back. Use there human side to attract prey, usually young woman, then devour with the hyena side; incredibly powerful bite
Moon-gazer = Guyana; tall muscular appearing man who appears on nights of the full moon along roads; if disturbed sucks out brains through hands
Nibanabas = Ojibwa/Ottawa; male nymph godlings, which aid people in war and can merge with them to lend them their powers; afraid of loud noises
Perelesnyk = Ukranian; Incubus-like spirit, flies through the air in the form of a fiery dragon; shapeshifter; seduces women by appearing as a deceased lover or husband.
Zmeu = giant warrior, with a magical gem in forehead, who comes from the sky or underworld and can spit fire, fly, and shapeshift; kidnaps young girls to marry them; can take flame form
Not necessarily seductive, but at least related to the topic at hand:
Alastor = Greek; male vengeance demon, avenged wrongs done to women by men
Glashan = Manx boggart; helps farmers in rounding up sheep or threshing corn, but constantly pesters women and steals bits of their clothing
I would love to have more kaiju, but not if they all need to be CR26+. What I like to do is take an existing monster, raise its HD until it becomes colossal, increase it's space and reach to at least 50, then apply the kaiju subtype to it to make my own since there is technically no CR minimum for kaiju (unlike demon lords and Empyreal lords).
Does the Bestiary 4 have a Zaratan yet? It always bothered me that there was no Zaratan. I know the Zaratan from the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Monstrous Manual. It is a giant sea turtle that is also an island. It appears to be a CR 20 magical beast.
Then you might like this monster from pathfinder 27 what lies in dust
All Kaiju are in CR26-30 range, but if you want to apply the Kaiju subtype to a weaker creature then go ahead.
Nice list there MMCJawa but when look at Moon-Gazer I think of a lot of 80's cartoons:)
All Kaiju are in CR26-30 range, but if you want to apply the Kaiju subtype to a weaker creature then go ahead.
I know the ones currently statted are, and the future ones probably will be too. I was just saying that unlike other monsters in the same CR range it doesn't state that all kaiju necessarily need to be that high. I think kaiju should cover a wider range of CRs instead of the way it currently is.
I am curious why you would want lower CR kaiju, especially when there are a fair number of lower CR colossal vermin running around. Deadly Mantis is only CR 11.All Kaiju are in CR26-30 range, but if you want to apply the Kaiju subtype to a weaker creature then go ahead.
I know the ones currently statted are, and the future ones probably will be too. I was just saying that unlike other monsters in the same CR range it doesn't state that all kaiju necessarily need to be that high. I think kaiju should cover a wider range of CRs instead of the way it currently is.
Because I don't like the idea that any monster over 100-ft. tall must be CR 26+. It doesn't make much sense to me.
If I want my party to fight a colossal T-Rex, I could just apply the giant template for a CR 10 challenge. Now if I want my party to fight one that's over 100-ft. tall, I have to jump all the way to CR 26 and above?
Well not all monsters that big are CR26+ but Kaiju are. There is nothing in the rules that says every creature that is 100+ft has to be a Kaiju.
Well not all monsters that big are CR26+ but Kaiju are. There is nothing in the rules that says every creature that is 100+ft has to be a Kaiju.
True, but the only ones that exist are all 26+. I could just increase a monster's space and reach more and call it a day, though it would be nice to have monsters in the book like that which aren't super epic monsters.
Well it isn't that hard to modify creatures that are already colossal size though anything smaller will take some work. Just remember to give them the massive monster trait that is listed under the Kaiju subtype. Also could give a weaker monster the Kaiju subtype(minus the massive trait) and say it is a baby Kaiju.
I am curious why you would want lower CR kaiju, especially when there are a fair number of lower CR colossal vermin running around. Deadly Mantis is only CR 11.All Kaiju are in CR26-30 range, but if you want to apply the Kaiju subtype to a weaker creature then go ahead.
I know the ones currently statted are, and the future ones probably will be too. I was just saying that unlike other monsters in the same CR range it doesn't state that all kaiju necessarily need to be that high. I think kaiju should cover a wider range of CRs instead of the way it currently is.
Because I don't like the idea that any monster over 100-ft. tall must be CR 26+. It doesn't make much sense to me.
If I want my party to fight a colossal T-Rex, I could just apply the giant template for a CR 10 challenge. Now if I want my party to fight one that's over 100-ft. tall, I have to jump all the way to CR 26 and above?
If I read the size table correctly, colossal says average height is 64 ft. or taller, so a giant-template T Rex could be 100 ft tall without problem.
Currently kaiju are "special snowflakes" (I mean that in the best sense of the phrase), and each kaiju is distinct, so there are no "generic" kaiju running around. It is sort of like, if the only stats for demons you had were from demon lords, you would think that all demons were super epic.
While I have the impression that there aren't any plans for "generic" kaiju, Inner Sea Gods has a description of "generic" Spawn of Rovangag. While they weren't super epic, they were still pretty epic, so I would not get my hopes up for CR 10 kaiju.
I believe that the size table was from 3.5, as pathfinder size charts makes no mention on height.
I don't really want kaiju to be at 10 but somewhere around CR17+. My issue is that kaiju shouldn't be more powerful than everything in pathfinder just because they're bigger and that's it.
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If you've seen a lot of kaiju media, you'd probably disagree with that. Their isn't much that really can bring down 90% of all fictional kaiju besides A. Other Kaiju B. Super Mechas C. Ultraman like characters or D. Legitimate doomsday devices. Kaiju are more than just big, they're usually nigh indestructible and typically have all kinds of devastating abilities. When things like conventional military weapons bring them down, it's usually a big problem for the Kaiju fandom and also complete B*&&+$!#. Just look at the 1998 American Godzilla movie compared to the original Godzilla or the new 2014 one. CR 25 to 30 would be reasonable for them. Maybe even higher, considering the fact that a significant number of kaiju could legitimately be classed as gods, but that would be unrealistic for the game. Sorry if I sound impassioned about this, I'm a huge Kaiju fan, and this is an important thing to me.
In the interest of adding more creatures to this thread:
Several recent threads pointed out a problematic discrepancy: There are a lot of attractive "female" creatures whose gimmick is seducing men (and yes...sometimes women), but very few creatures that represent attractive "male" with the same gimmick.
People argued that their absence is largely driven by their absence in mythology. which is somewhat true. However, there are some creatures that Paizo hasn't worked on that fill this niche. Note that I am deliberately avoiding the more Satyr-like creatures, which may inspire lust in women but might be considered less attractive. Also this list is far from comprehensive...I am sure a lot of good creatures are still missing, as my sampling of critters for my notes tends to be random and opportunistic.
Seductive and romantic monsters
Amorini = Cupid like spirits of love
Baiste-na-scoghaigh = Shape-shifting lumbering monoceros like beast from the Isle of Skye; propagates race by taking the form of a man and mating with female humans; may kill and mimic different men
Couril = Cornwall/France; tiny fairies with webbed feet and malignant disposition; inhabit ruins and stone circles; can teleport between different standing stones; enjoy dancing, and can force people to join this, which results in death by exhaustion for mortals; often leave maidens pregnant, with the offspring always resembling a village lad.
Encantado = Amazon; Shapeshifting Fairy folk who can take the form of river dolphins. Come from a magical underwater realm called encante. excellent musicians who enjoy parties which they infilitrate to seduce women; crave the pleasures and hardships of mortal life. Can be distinguished in human form by the presence of a blowhole. Can control storms, ensorcel humans to do their will, inflict insanity and illness. Most powerful at twilight; often kidnap people for company.
Gancanagh = Irish Love Talker; male Fey whose touch would completely enthrall a...
Dude, I really wish I knew all your monster sources. Every time you post there's always several more I've never heard of. Never heard the Zmeu described like that before, sounds pretty cool actually. Considering that I don't have NEARLY enough in my fictional world, might I suggest all things arthropod next?
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Arthropods might be good...might throw that in tonight depending on time. Although Arthropods don't in general seem that well represented. I don't think they were generally considered that huge of a threat, outside the occasional locust swarm or spider. I really think the focus on them being monsters worthy of revulsion probably only picked up with the rise of natural history and the frequent use of microscopes.
Generally everything I find is via google wormhole (and the occasional in hand book). I look up something one person refers to, which sometimes leads me to another page which lists a bunch of stuff, which in turn leads me to some new creature that I google search, and so forth.
Sincubus has posted some of links I do regularly check. Although I found a good article on Australian fey on Karl Shuker's cryptozoology blog today, which is often good for obscure beasties. It might be worthwhile to take a look at that site if you haven't already.
Also feel free to post your own arthropod list, in case you have some stuff I don't have notes on :P
Thanks Jawa. I'll see what I can come up with. Ever heard of the Awahondo? It's a native american assassin bug like creature and my latest Arthropod discovery. It wasn't on your Native American monster list so you may not have heard of one. I was just thrilled when I found the Haakapainzi.
I am familiar with the name, but haven't added it to the list just because I am random with my creature addition. Although I don't really recall much of any description applied to it
I am familiar with the name, but haven't added it to the list just because I am random with my creature addition. Although I don't really recall much of any description applied to it
Apparently they are the size of normal insects and attack in demonic swarms. I wish I knew more about them myself.
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Arthropod Monsters! (or creatures that reference arthropods)
Adze = vampiric fireflies from Togo/Ghana; possess people, and can give them power. Feed on the energy of a person, causing symptoms similar to Malaria or sleeping sickness. Moves around at night
Ah-Muzen-Cab = Mayan God of bees and honey; depicted upside down. Honey associated with psychoactive substances by Mayans, which might be connected as well with this god.
Amikiri = Japanese Yokai; lobster like creature, with a long red body, segmented shell, bird like beak, and scissor-like claws. Pests which like to cut nets
Awa-hon-do = Abenaki spirit insect; bites people
Caballucos del Diablu = Little devil horses; Giant dragonfly monsters that arise from bonfires on St. John's Eve (June 23) to release their fury over all of the sins of the year; Different colors represent different sins; Red = dishonesty/fraud, White = theft; Black = lying; Yellow = Tyranny; Blue = murder; Orange = familial abuse. Steal luck in order to spread suffering
Con-rit = Vietnamese cryptid; Giant sea centipede; covered in armor plates and up to over a 100 feet long, swims through the water column using rows of paddles;
Djien = Seneca NA: reckless man-eating humanoid spider beast that stores it's heart underground, allowing it to regenerate from any wound
Dzunukwa = Kwakwaka'wakw Pacific Northwest mythology; giant man-eating ogress with long pendulous breasts, scraggly hair, and bright red lips; can heal others and regenerate from all wounds except for fire; when finally slain by fire, discorporated into a cloud of mosquitos
Goggie = English Folklore; protective spirit of orchards; resembles a giant, hairy caterpillar; drags disobedient children back to it’s lair to feast
Gooseberry Wife = English Bugbear; Giant child-eating hairy caterpillar; lurks within gooseberry bushes to ambush it’s prey; individual caterpillars are a foot long and brown-green in color; May form a gestalt creature from smaller caterpillars
Haakapainzi = Kawaiisu Native American; Giant predatory locust with a taste for children; slain when it ate a magic red hot coal that turned it to stone
Hedet = arachnoid scorpion humanoids - Egyptian mythology
Heikegani = spirits of samurai warriors reincarnated into Crab form, with strange face like shells. Based on real crabs
Horerczy = German; demon that releases vampiric butterflies from its mouth
Inktomi/Unktomi = Siouan; goblin-like Spider spirits; variable in size; large round body with slender limbs and powerful hands and feet; can shapeshift into spiders; cans spin webs, which can capture light; produce arrowheads; mischevious and cunning; ride canines, which cause hair loss; dress in raccoon and buckskin; speak there own language and named all things
J’ba Fofi = Congo cryptid; giant tarantula like spider, with a 6 foot legspan; juveniles are yellow, and brown with age; build nests of leaves and webbing, or inhabit burrows in mudbanks
Kami-kiri = Japanese Yokai; small, magical arthropod creature, with a scissor-like beak and hands like razors. Hide under roof tiles, and sneak out to cut hair, which is their main diet
Kekkai/Oketsu = Yokai, burrowing demonic creature attracted to birthing mothers; hairy, with a shell and cow like features; small; attacks from under the house, and seeks to kill the mother. May also be born to a human woman, after which it eats its host.
Kokopelli = Pueblo/Kiowa; race of rabbit/locust/dragonfly creatures; possess antennae, rabbit-like ears and tail; long-pointed nose; associated with the rain; dwell in deserts; represent regeneration and fertility; also considered a game-keeper
Muhnochwa = India; barbed locust-like insect; 3 inches long; glows at night; Any contact with it causes vicious scratches and lacerations
Myrmidon = prolific disciplined ant soldiers, from Greek Mythology
Nih’ancan = Cheyenne; “Spiderman”; cultural hero and high god, could appear as a dwarven old man
Omukade = Japanese; Immense man-eating mountain centipede
Pelesit = Malaysian; familiar passed from master to apprentice. Small, resembles a green grasshopper creature. Crawls into people to possess them, control them, and cause pain. Feeds on blood. Requires a continous host or it will die.
Sandwalker = Arabian (or internet hoax); giant nocturnal crab-like beast with a scorpion tail and a beak; steals camels
Shellycoat = Scottish; water fey covered in shells; inhabit streams and rivers; clinking of shells makes a racket; enjoy frightening and tricking people
Shtriga = Albanian; vampiric witch that feeds on the blood of infants and could take the form of a moth, fly or bee. during the day appears as an old woman with pale eyes and crooked nose; can give evil eye. can be captured and destroyed in a consecrated threshold, and also vulnerable to silver
Skeljaskaimsli = Icelandic shell monster; rusty brown, multi-limbed creature with a tapir like trunk and pangolin scales
Thorbagge = Norse name for scarab beetle, sacred to Thor; if found upside and righted, it expediated 7 sins from the helper
Tisikh Puk = Inuit; Colossal worm like creature, with the body of a caterpillar and the head of a human; could take human form
Tse’cabe = Siouan; black spiderlike fairies
Tsuchi-gumo = Japanese; Purseweb spider yokai; Giant spiders that dwell in funnel webs, and weave illusions into there silk; venomous; can take human appearance; females keep there young in a brood pouch; if destroyed, the spider spawn will erupt and swarm there mother’s slayer; May lead armies of yokai
Wen-gosi-yana = Macro-Carib; dwarf-like or ant-like humanoid which are small and wave shields
Wingwaks/Weengs/Ininees = Ojibwa/Ottawa; speck-sized butterfly fairies which can put people to sleep
Zaiyamuinob/Chac zay unicob/Yichobebei yichob colelcab = Macro-Mayan; red ant folk with large bee-like eyes and jointed bodies; hard workers associated with leaf-cutter ants; come from the blackest regions of space (Coalsack under Southern Cross);
Related creatures:
Abatwa = Zulu ant herders; tiny people, can only be seen by children and those with the gift; shy, but easily offended and sensitive about their diminutive size; wise; hunt with poison arrows; skilled at hiding
Antiso’ma/Hant Haso’uoma/Animal Masters = Hokan/Tolupan; include master of mice and rats and master of roaches; appear as two year old dwarves; dwell underground ; first two refer to “man god” who is depicted as a fat child size being with beard, yellow hair, and white skin; wore robes
Duwende = Philippines; small dwarf or goblin like creatures that inhabit termite mounds; only appear in the middle of night or the middle of the day; could be good or evil, but can be placated with offerings of food; fond of stealing and hiding objects.
Kacivoreri = Macro-Arawakan; luminous black winged, tailless imps; drip red and yellow glowing globes; feed on blood-sucking insects
Macayo = Macro-carib; father of the Wasp Twins, who were born from a wound from a sting; The wasp twins were gluttonous and grew fast, and built nests which fared poorly in rain; warn of monster; break blowguns and cause animals to be poisonous; spill poison; however they also gave people crops; disappeared to a land where they would be eternally youthful.
Surem = Tarachahitan; Three-foot tall pygmies; dress in parrot and eagle feathers; after the coming of Christianity vanished into hills or sea; Born of a sea goddess; danced where no grass grows and later became ants
Tai/Phi Tai = Thai; Spirit of a woman who died of malaria, and after death can spread Malaria to its victims
Cool list of vermin, but I miss the Lou Carcolh, Sazae-Oni and Anansi in the list.
I know snails aren't really insects, but spiders/scorpions aren't as well, I always thought snails fit the insect group :-p Also a lot of worm-monsters like the Indus Worm, Lambton Worm, Black Amazone Armored Worm monster and the Iceland Worm.
Thanks for the Muhnochwa, I didn't know about that one, the others i've heard off and already use.
BTW, Awa-Hon-Do's aren't Assassin Bugs, I made that up because I wanted a Assassin Bug monster in my mythology game. But there is very little information about this creature, and it doesn't say what type of insect is it, only that it bites people, well Assassin Bugs are known to bite very hard. Another option could be the Earwig.
If you've seen a lot of kaiju media, you'd probably disagree with that. Their isn't much that really can bring down 90% of all fictional kaiju besides A. Other Kaiju B. Super Mechas C. Ultraman like characters or D. Legitimate doomsday devices. Kaiju are more than just big, they're usually nigh indestructible and typically have all kinds of devastating abilities. When things like conventional military weapons bring them down, it's usually a big problem for the Kaiju fandom and also complete B+*~!$!#. Just look at the 1998 American Godzilla movie compared to the original Godzilla or the new 2014 one. CR 25 to 30 would be reasonable for them. Maybe even higher, considering the fact that a significant number of kaiju could legitimately be classed as gods, but that would be unrealistic for the game. Sorry if I sound impassioned about this, I'm a huge Kaiju fan, and this is an important thing to me.
Regardless of the CR of the Kaiju, the Kaiju subtype provides all the resistances, DR, fast healing, and immunities to the monster. So even at CR 17 they still are going to be very hard to damage with most attacks. Bumping its CR to 26-30 is just inflating its numbers, really.
Not all Kaiju have many powerful abilities. The Kaiju from Pacific Rim, for example, don't have many abilities, and some of them actually have no abilities to speak of. I have a hard time seeing these particular creatures being more powerful than anything the game has to offer. That's why they can be represented as a mid to high CR monster with the Kaiju subtype. The entry about Kaiju in Bestiary 4 never even mentions that they must be CR 26 and above (unlike Empyreal Lords who must start out at 21, or Demon Lords that must start at 26).
1998 Godzilla can be represented as a colossal dinosaur, such as a colossal advanced T-rex.
I feel a new Kaiju thread/topic coming up.