Improved Natural Weapon feat questions


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Aside from the question of "is this PFS legal" I have a few questions about the Improved Natural Weapon feat as related to the new Occult Adventurers classes. Namely, can it be applied to a kineticist's blasts? According to Hero Lab the answer is yes. Also, does it stack with the Powerful Fist ability of the Elemental Ascetic archtype? But I'd like to know for sure before planning to far ahead for my non-PFS group's campaign. Being able to turn my Elemental Ascetic's kinetic fist flurries into D8's (or more) would be useful.

If Kinetic Blasts can be affected by improved natural attack, does that include kinetic fist's damage, or would it only apply to the ranged blasts?

Equally sticky question in my mind, would improved Critical (unarmed) allow a kinetic fist attack to crit on a 19-20 since kinetic fist is done as an natural/unarmed attack? Or would it only allow the 1d3 punch to crit with that range while the kinetic fist damage only crits on a 20?


They're not legal in PFS for PCs. You need to have access to them from another legal source, such as the natural weapon ranger or the animal companion section opening them up.

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Powerful Fist and Improved Natural Weapon won't stack

Kinetic Blast isn't a natural attack unless it says so

Kinetic Fist is additional damage, so Improved Critical (unarmed) won't make your fits crit range go to 19-20, as none of it would multiply on a critical anyway.

BigNorseWolf answered correctly that INA are not legal in PFS unless listed as allowed.

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Blasts aren't natural weapons. It would be hilarious, though, to take damage from a babau's skin after you blast it from 120 feet away.

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James Risner wrote:

Powerful Fist and Improved Natural Weapon won't stack

Kinetic Blast isn't a natural attack unless it says so

Kinetic Fist is additional damage, so Improved Critical (unarmed) won't make your fits crit range go to 19-20, as none of it would multiply on a critical anyway.

BigNorseWolf answered correctly that INA are not legal in PFS unless listed as allowed.

Yeah, already had found out that INA isn't legal in PFS normally. The character in question is for my group's Serpent skull campaign, which isn't PFS. When I noticed that hero lab was allowing you to chose kinetic blast for improved natural attack that got me wondering. Hence the question.

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