Just confirming but can I change my weakness from seeing and hearing lightning and thunder to being hit with lightning or sonic damage. As I said before, it'll be hard for Leccia to do much of anything if she is constantly weakened every time someone shows off an electric attack.
Umm.... Yeah. Just try to not make too many changes. I prefer for everyones character to be solid once your in-game.
That's fine. I'll work with it. Just because she has reduced stats doesn't mean she can't fight. So when she gets into battle all her stats drop 1 CS per ten rounds until she reaches typical rank. For now, I'm assuming she's a safe distance away but anyone remaining in the hospital has likely saw a nurse grow claws and wings as she ran into a random room away from Tyler's.
They are all running scared anyways :P. And you are inside down a hallway and they are outside right now.
I figured rage would be a good enough excuse to get her out in the open even when conduit has his little electric light show going on.
If you guys just really can't get him i may give you a hint. But they only get harder from here, but in different ways :). I thought this character was quite cool when i came up with the idea. I may his stats after you finish him just, censored of course :P. Some info is for me -_-
Hey, GM, I sent you a private message. Did you get it? If not, here is my dude.
Yes i did haven't read it yet
He uses his imitation power as his costume for the most part. He ends up looking like statues of American heroes or presidents. Most of the time he sticks to the guys on the money, but he also is a fan of Teddy Roosevelt and on occasion, Kennedy. His public appearances have been a statue of Uncle Sam, who chased down a purse snatcher, and Herbert Hoover, who fixed some potholes.
He has nothing for a costume also because he hasn't really thought about being a hero much yet. When he appears in the thread, it will literally be the first time he has done much of anything heroic in his life.
His regular appearance is a six foot three man, pretty built. Brown hair, green eyes and dimples mark his appearance, other than that, there isn't much special about him.
That reminds me, how are we going to play our duo? You found me and convinced me to become a symbol, that much I worked into the end of my backstory, but everything since is vague.
Are we romantically involved? Just friends/partners? Do I know your alter ego?
I'd say we're partners with some flirting. I doubt it's blossomed into any kind of romance, since (a) she doesn't know what kind of hero you'll turn out to be yet and (b) itmight jeopardize future heroics from you if the romance was a determining factor in your heroics(yes, she can be that manipulative, it's her nature).
I'd say you know her alter ego. Since the GM had us working together in public despite your public ID, I'd say she also has a second alternate ID as Cinthia Coleson, your attache. As Cindy, she wears glasses, has her hair tied up and tight, wears loose-fitting business attire with a slimming girdle under it to flatten her curves some, and looses her southern accent. Candice Cole the country singer certainly has no reason to accompany a US Marshal during an investigation.
It probably would have been better if she had just accompanied you in her Anthem guise, but I think the GM forgot/didn't notice that your ID is public. I'll roll with it.
Sounds good to me.
He uses his imitation power as his costume for the most part. He ends up looking like statues of American heroes or presidents. Most of the time he sticks to the guys on the money, but he also is a fan of Teddy Roosevelt and on occasion, Kennedy. His public appearances have been a statue of Uncle Sam, who chased down a purse snatcher, and Herbert Hoover, who fixed some potholes.
He has nothing for a costume also because he hasn't really thought about being a hero much yet. When he appears in the thread, it will literally be the first time he has done much of anything heroic in his life.
His regular appearance is a six foot three man, pretty built. Brown hair, green eyes and dimples mark his appearance, other than that, there isn't much special about him.
I will try and out you in the next sequence
Looking at the rules, though I freely admit I'm still learning them, I think Conduit's gambit should work. That means his flight speed is equal to Leccia's but like all flying he can't go from 0 to 150. Still, this works in Conduit's favor since his max speed is set to the max speed of the energy type. Leccia would still have the lead but he'd overtake her eventually.
I also somehow love the image of these two flying at high speeds down a city street. Furthermore, the image of Conduit slowly catching up reminds me of the speed focused battles in some of the later sonic games...even if Leccia is essentially playing the punching bag in that scenario.
Edit: Ah, saw the DM ruling. So she outflies Conduit but gets cornered by a different group. That's fine. Besides, she isn't even in the same league as fury so she's caught anyway.
2 Quick questions.
Do you want me to purchase the mystic talent allowing spellcasting, since we're not ising the magis rules?
Do you want me to Pick a weakness?
No you dont have to pick the mystic talent and no you dont have to have a weakness.
I am going to throw you in the campaign.
Groovy, will post shortly.
I didn't know how you wanted me to describe you, so i just sort of guessed :P. Nice though. Nothing looks more professional than lincoln in a Hawaiian shirt, boxers and one sock lol
As funny as it sounds to have him still in his clothes described at the beginning of the post, it sets a terrible president. I would love for his Imitation power to be able to adjust his clothes as well, so I wouldn't have to run around naked later, or have Washington leading the charge with big blue underwear on if you know what I mean.
If it's all the same to you, lets just say that the clothes changed too.
Lol np :)
Even with the exodus of our living plot point PC, there are enough points that it can still work out. Of course, Fury will probably need to prove that Breakneck survived the fall (or come up with good doctored evidence) to keep some of the more heroic members of this group in line.
As for Leccia, her job is secondary right now. She sees Al as a big enough threat that she has to go after him before she can get back to her personal mission...or lack there of whatever the case may be.
Lol my plan was for no one to get actually hurt when they fall, he sort of unknowingly screwed my plans up. But i rolled with it :)
For what it's worth, its a nice save. You turned an intended test of bravery into an impromptu test of loyalty.
Lol in this situation i am just going "what would nick fury do?" :P Since i decided to use actual characters from the marvel universe i am trying my best to stay along the lines of what they would say and how they would act :P
Fury is kind of a bastard.
Exactly :)
i like him
Hey, I think I might have someone waiting in the wings and willing to join this game. You did say you wanted to keep it going and we did lose one person. I'm going to send them a link but I thought I'd also post a heads-up.
Well, for now, my friend has decided to be a reader. Let's make this an interesting read everyone.
Ok np :). I was surrised to see only 2 posts in here today :)
If no one posts later today. I will move things along :P
I think having Anthem say something like "Don't Shoot, we are sending in a negotiator" over a megaphone would work pretty well, actually. It's ok if other people overhear. It means they won't shoot either.
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]I was just warning you that a cop will not just hand you a Mega phone. And also, it would look bad if you openly used a form of mind control and could prove to be bad for everyone watching. You could use it once your inside, but just using a Mega phone and controlling everyones mind in the area isn't suggested. Not only could it not effect everyone inside as anticipated, but it also involves possible pvp and control of the minds of innocents watching at home as reporters will likely have a camera on you. Which will lower your karma as you will be using your powers on innocents, but also you would be telling robbers something that many others could follow. So you could accidentally tell a kid to jump out a window if your not careful :P. I am just warning you. With great power comes great responsibility and the possibility of killing a lot of people lol
Actually, what you said is it wouldn't work and would get me shot. I'm somewhat bullet proof, and the power's description clearly states that it works through Megaphones on anyone who can hear it.
I wasn't talking about just grabbing a megaphone from a cop, either. I was asking the duly authorized US Marshal if he wanted to talk to the police about asking them to let me use a megaphone to address the robbers.
Frankly, I don't see how it would be bad for my reputation to be seen negotiating a surrender from the robbers. Especially if it resulted in a surrender with no casualties or property damage. Certainly not bad for Karma.
If I were to tell them to "lay down their weapons and walk peacefully out of the building" I doubt anyone would die following the instructions over the tv screen.
You have the power that comes from being the GM. That comes with great responsibility too. One of those responsibilities is not to screw over the players just for playing their characters. So far, between the first unbeatable except by a specific gimick, your Nick Fury the bully and this, your playstyle has been somewhat adversarial and railroady.
If you only want us to play the way you envision the game playing out let me know now, and I'll bow out. If this is not the case, then please understand I'm going to be using my powers, all of them.
You have the power that comes from being the GM. That comes with great responsibility too. One of those responsibilities is not to screw over the players just for playing their characters. So far, between the first unbeatable except by a specific gimick, your Nick Fury the bully and this, your playstyle has been somewhat adversarial and railroady.
Also, a GM should be creative too and try to find things that challenge the players. Thugs in a bank is a job for, maybe one hero. Super Villians are really good for a team of heroes. If we aren't fighting stuff with powers, we should just let the police handle it unless we have a particular power that is of use in the situation. Like a Hypnotic voice for instance, that would work really well.
Also, we picked our powers and abilities with a good deal of thought to make characters who could succeed in a variety of ways. Running us through a few different encounters is a good plan, but don't be too upset if we breeze through some of them. We are Super Heroes after all, that's what they do.
A bank robbery with hostages seems pretty awful to me. I'd have a hard time handling it on my own.
Anthem though, this is basically where her power shines. It's good to have teammates.
@anthem: thats my point when you said "put down your weapons and walk out of the building", a little kid at home out of school sick, his mom is at work. Nothing is on tv so he watches the news... He gets excited and sees super heroes.. then all of the sudden something happens... he feels strange... the lady voice.... drops remote ("weapon") and walks out of the building... He is on the 3rd of of his apartment complex, the nearest exit is a window ledge... you see where this is going :P.
ALSO i hate to break it to the standard, but he isn't a marshal right now, he was suspended for openly using his powers without calling for backpack with a group that did damage to public property and also not to mention the demon and killer robot, the police and media are dumb and don't draw a line half the time between bad guy and good guy and unfortunately group all the people with powers together. Tis some difficulties and challenges that make this campaign fun. And this may seem like something easy, but its meant from a gm's point of view to be difficult. From a player point of view it could be hard,easy,or unnecessary. For you don't know why Nick Fury told you to do this, perhaps he is testing you, further testing your powers or will or cunning. You can't be sure so you must make a call on what to do that best fits the situation. I don't want most situations to be quick or easy. I want a lot of them to use cunning than just powers. BUT cunning+power can be quite useful. But unfortunately trying to get a microphone from a police officer that doesn't like you (as i stated previously at first the public wont like you), is not a good idea, nor is trying to use a form of mind control that area of effect isn't well controlled. And your right as far as i am a gm i must make a call, but i'm not screwing you over, i am making things difficult for the sake of fun. Also if your voice works over mega phone, why shouldnt it work through a tv? as that was one of your arguments :P. And another thing... I am trying to get everyone to realize that people are scared of people with powers, and just openly using mind control can lead to disastrous effects. My examples of this are: x-men and spider man, as no matter what they do they are almost always hated. And that may not necessarily be the case with this group, i will make a call on each basis to see how the public views you. But in reality, extremists and media people will often view a hero as a villain, just as they do with modern celebrities, even if they show up at a hospital for a dying kid, the media will find a way to portray it badly :P. And i understand your frustration, but its just the difficulty of the game :). I will try my best to make sure that the group can complete each scenario as well as trying my best to keep anyone from getting killed, as i have always thought that a tpk or even one person dying is bad gming (sometimes), and i think its my job to make sure everyone gets through everything... BUT not easily, and make sure its fun. And i think this is reasonable :). But all in all, the mega phone was a clever idea, and those ideas will help a lot, this one just wasn't a good one and i was trying to tell you out of game that it won't work, but in the end i can't tell you what to do, as i am the console, you are the people with the controllers :)
Wait, what? I've actually been suspended? By some woman in a trenchcoat who isn't even a federal agent? Just like that?
As far as I understood, I was a federal agent who's job was to deal with super-crime. I'm pretty sure everything that happened was exactly within my job description.
I didn't even use any powers. I didn't jump around all crazy. I hit a robot with a stick and got thrown into a closet. That's all.
Also, I'm really, really popular. I'm almost as famous and well known as Captain America in the normal Marvel cannon. I'm really not sure how anything I've done in this game would suddenly undo that.
You say that it's the difficulties and challenges that make this game fun, but I think you're misunderstanding the difference between an interesting challenge and difficulties that come from GM decisions that seem questionable and arbitrary.
That isn't fun. Maybe we, as a group, just aren't getting your vision for the game, but so far everything that has happened has seemed forced and choiceless. I was willing to go along with it for the sake of the story, but at this point I'm starting to wonder when that is going to end.
Case in point...
The POLICE, who are dealing with a HOSTAGE SITUATION are shooting at us because we happen to be there. What the f#%+?
I don't think this game is what we thought it was. It seems Darvis wanted a bunch of covert ops anti-heroes hated by the law, and most of us made characters in the vein of superman and captain america.
I think the GM and the Players are playing different games.
So my only question is, Darvis, why didn't you tell us what kind of story you wanted to tell? I think you could have gotten it, but now everything has gone to hell.
Yeah, umn, I'll post below the reply I was working on in a spoiler, but seeing that, I'm out. Life's too short.
@anthem: thats my point when you said "put down your weapons and walk out of the building", a little kid at home out of school sick, his mom is at work. Nothing is on tv so he watches the news... He gets excited and sees super heroes.. then all of the sudden something happens... he feels strange... the lady voice.... drops remote ("weapon") and walks out of the building... He is on the 3rd of of his apartment complex, the nearest exit is a window ledge... you see where this is going :P.
Yeah, that's dickery. This isn't corrupt the wish. Nothing says "jump out the window" like "walk peacefully out of the building".
ALSO i hate to break it to the standard, but he isn't a marshal right now, he was suspended for openly using his powers without calling for backpack with a group that did damage to public property and also not to mention the demon and killer robot, the police and media are dumb and don't draw a line half the time between bad guy and good guy and unfortunately group all the people with powers together.
Sorry, more dickery. As a US Marshal, he is authorized to deputize us in the line of duty. And some random cop on the street doesn't have the authority to suspend him to begin with. And you would think Nick Fury taking over the case would override said random cop's supposed authority.
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@the standard: your marshal ship is suspended at the moment FROM a higher authority, that women was just a messenger :P. And the main reason for this is because your identity isn't secret. And no no no I don't want anti-heroes :P. Its just that people think of you badly. You must be justfull and honorable as you are super heroes :)
As far as the cops go... I DID warn you that people will think of you badly. There was negotiation from nick furry to get the cops away from the situation. They still view you as a threat. I tried to warn you not to expect everyone to run into your arms happily :P. Its everyone's job to try and show everyone that you are the good guys :). The only reason you are suspended at the moment is because people can try and hurt you personally since they know who you are :P. This is supposed to be a realistic game. In the sense very few heroes were loved from the beginning and even in later games some weren't liked. It was the heroes and.their actions that got them popular :)
I just don't think I agree with your assessment of realistic.
The game has a mechanic for how well liked you are. It's Popularity. I'd have to roll really low for the police to even dislike me, let alone shoot at me (usually "shoot on site" is reserved for negative popularity characters, like The Punisher or Villains. Not even Spiderman gets that treatment)
I also asked you if it was ok to have a public identity. If you didn't want me to do it, you should have just said so. Suspending me because people know who I am is both asinine and backwards.
I think I'm going the way of Breakneck and Anthem. This isn't the game for me.
Please remove me from the active characters list.
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Realistic? Cops opening fire outside a building full of hostages? The realistic result would be dead hostages.
You shouldn't have had people roll for popularity. Since you did, you should be sticking with the results of those rolls. The results on me and The Standard meant we're practically worshiped.
Even without that, "thinking badly" should not equal "become completely unhinged and attack you on sight regardless of the situation."
Why can't you guys just go along with it and consider it odd instead of freaking out... I wasn't going to let any of you actually be hit by any bullets and later you would have found that Big Al has his hands in the police in this area. Its fine, i just have to change the some of my plans around, but its worth it for everyone to realize that everything is done with reason and purpose :P.
Honestly, I think Anthem and I, and anyone else interested in working with the establishment, are just playing the wrong characters for this game.
You want Spiderman, Batman, Daredevil types. Some of us are playing Cap, Superman, Wonderwoman types.
Personally, I feel like I've been the victim of a bait-and-switch con. What I expected from the game is drastically different than what it has quickly become.
It may be that the players just didn't understand your vision for the game enough to make characters that were appropriate to the story. It might have just been a misunderstanding.
Unfortunately, the weight of that still falls on the GM. We aren't butthurt. We're upset because we feel railroaded and like we are being played against instead of played with.
Two of those characters are DC :p. Maybe I'm just taking a marvel approach? I just wanted to hit on the public aspect of the game. Otherwise your just fighting monster after monster instead of worrying about what most super heroes worry about, which in most cases they simple worry whether or not the people will like them and how they will react. Cpt. America is a really of hero, in the sense it was created just to make people like them. And not everyone can be expected to be liked as they have. And I don't exactly want any type of character its just that I will look at the characters at the start as more of Spiderman image :). You can't control how people think of you. And granted yes you did roll for popularity, but you have to think about how things fluctuate and how people can't look at a one person in a group as amazing and another one a monster. Think about association :)
I'm not talking about controlling what people think of you (even thought that's exactly what Anthem'sa power does), I'm talking about Quantifying it. That's the Popularity score. Mine is MONSTEROUS. I'm a well loved national celebrity. That's what that score means. Even if I was walking around with Ebonclaw as my date, people would still love me, because her popularity isn't negative.
Also, "people can't look at a one person in a group as amazing and another one a monster" is patently false. See the Avengers. Cap and Hulk. Same team. No one thinks Cap is a monster by association.
It's fine that you want to do a Spiderman-style story. I just really wish you would have made that clear at the beginning so we could have built characters appropriate to that story. Nightstrike would have fit right in there.
Standard doesn't.
Good example, however people don't think of hull as part of the team :P. And I'm sorry :/. I don't really know what to say. It seems like everyone just quites if they get angry :P at least you haven't done that. OH and anthem couldn't have everyone like her forever its limited :)
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Anger isn't the reason I quit. I quit because I can already see that this game will not be enjoyable for me.
I didn't expect everyone to love Anthem. On the other hand, I also didn't expect cops to shoot at her without provocation in front of reporters and civilians. If we saw Captain America with Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver and attacked them on the spot without any communication because he was a "Mutie Lover" and they were terrorists, I bet your press wouldn't be in our favor.
The one common theme here is you are unapologetically running the game your way with no consideration for the characters in it. You've decided the beginning, the middle, and the end of each scenario so far with no apparent room for player agency within that structure. Your style is not one I appreciate playing under.
It really is just a matter of playstyle. If you are having fun, great.
I'm not though. I think I've made my reasons pretty clear. I feel I have created the wrong character for this story, and I've felt railroaded and blindsided, so I'm going to remove him.
I'll stop polluting the discussion thread so the rest of you can get on with your bank robbery.
Have a good game folks. Sorry about making a mess of things.
Its alright standard
I'm out too.
This isn't a play style or a story that interests me anymore. I didn't spend hours creating a character to have him rewritten for me. I'm not angry with you about this, I'm kind of upset at myself and a bit disappointed. It's too bad, it seemed like such a good idea in the first place.
I don't mind when people play fast and loose with the rules because they are interested in the story, but we haven't used the rules. You haven't required a roll for anything to happen. When I play a table top game like this, I expect to roll some dice. Then I feel like there is at least one factor that applies to both GM and player, giving at least the illusion of fairness. When a GM ignores the rules in favor of the players on occasion, they generally appreciate it. When he ignores the rules to give the players a hard time, they don't usually appreciate it.
When I signed up for this game, it was out of nostalgia. I loved playing this game with some friends of mine 15 or so years ago. I suppose that might have been misplaced. This game has not reminded me at all of what I used to play. I remember reading some statements early on that should have clued me in on the type of game you wanted to play, but I didn't pay attention to them and tried to focus on the things I did enjoy, which happened to be the other characters, some of which have left.
It seems as if there is a disconnect between what you find interesting and what some of us find acceptable. Your depiction of the government (S.H.I.E.L.D.) and of police make no sense to me. I've known some cops, and they are people who don't pull out their guns until they are ready to kill someone. All anyone's character is even suspected of in this game is property damage, that is not a reason that police pull their guns. Their most potent weapon is their words, and they only use their weapons in the most dire of situations.
I've played in games like this before, and I usually end up getting frustrated. If I believe that everything I do is arbitrary, I don't have motivation to keep trying. I still have fun with the games commonly played on these forums, but this one does not appeal to me anymore.