[Dreamscarred Press] Ultimate Psionics Update


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A new method for the vitalist is now in Alpha playtesting - the Intercessor Method


When I was browsing for Kindle ebooks I noticed you produce an ebook version of one of your books. Will you be releasing Ultimate Psionics as a Kindle ebook? It would make a great addition to my color copy I am getting through the kick starter.

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Maybe.

The reason I say that is Amazon actually would not allow us to release Psionics Unleashed as an ebook for the Kindle because it was also available on d20pfsrd, despite the fact that we are the publisher of the book.

Should they similarly block the Kindle version of Ultimate Psionics, we may have to release it through other stores.

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Because the CONTENT is on d20pfsrd.com or because the books are available in the d20pfsrd store? If the former, a) how did they know and b) why do they care? If the latter, but your products are available other places besides d20pfsrd.. what makes us special?

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

The former.

As for how they know - they searched on the material, I'm assuming. You have to submit kindle books for review by Amazon before they will list it.

As for why it matters - their answer is that it could negatively impact the customer experience paying for something that is otherwise available for free elsewhere.

I tried to explain the details to them, but they didn't care.

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Interesting. I wouldn't have thought they'd dedicate that much time/effort to it, or that they'd even care. I hope that won't adversely affect the likelihood of you continuing to add content to d20pfsrd.com that's for sure...

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Nope, being up on d20pfsrd is a bigger deal than having an ebook version on Amazon.

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Woot :D Glad to hear it!


I'd have to say I agree with Jeremy. I've bought a ton of 3rd party material I would have never even thought of (or probably known existed) because it was hosted on d20pfsrd

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Still, a girl likes to be told she's pretty now and then. Makes 'er feel special and warm inside *swoon*


Im so upset the i never hear about the kickstarter, would have jumped on that in an instant, definitely looking forward to the release


Yar, my local store JUST got Expanded and I grabbed it. Liked it and then found out about the kickstarter/compiled edition. Sigh.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Here's some new stuff in playtesting!

Psionics domain for the cleric

Warlock archetype for the cryptic

And Wildmonsters and Devastation Bob, I'm sorry that you missed out on the Kickstarter! But we will be taking preorders for the books once we're nearly ready to go to print!

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

A detailed and complete project status update for Ultimate Psionics has been posted.


Is there some way that you guys can get with Paizo and somehow make it firmly clear that your Psionics is official with the Pathfinder Game?

wolflair who does Hero Lab seems to not want to do a psionic module because Psionics isn't official. :p

Scarab Sages

Shain Edge, Hero Lab support is one of the goals of the Kickstarter, and Jeremy is working with the HL folks on it.

Upthread he gave an update (link), but I think i've seen one or two more in our backer forum on dreamscarred's website since.


Wildmonsters wrote:
Im so upset the i never hear about the kickstarter, would have jumped on that in an instant, definitely looking forward to the release

I'm in the same boat. I didn't hear about the kickstarter either, though I was part of the Pre-ordering of the Psionics Expanded, getting those nifty PDFs as they were published.


I don't know if monsters are gonna be added to the book, but I'd like throw you guys an idea: we can't have Gem Dragons in Pathfinder because they're properties of WotC, so how about a template that converts a dragon's arcane spellcasting ability into power points and powers?

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JiCi wrote:
I don't know if monsters are gonna be added to the book, but I'd like throw you guys an idea: we can't have Gem Dragons in Pathfinder because they're properties of WotC, so how about a template that converts a dragon's arcane spellcasting ability into power points and powers?

There will be psionic dragons in the Psionic Bestiary.

:)


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@ JiCi ... yes, yes there will be Psionic Dragons in the Psionic Bestiary ... it was one of the first things I wanted to do for Jeremy, Andreas, and the DSP crew when I won the Psionic Bestiary contest a couple years ago. Now, as I understand it, Jeremy and Andreas had to do some re-working/tweeking of my psionic dragons to have them "fit" their ideals better ... but as Jeremy stated above me ... there will be Psionic Dragons in the Psionic Bestiary.

Dean


Jeremy Smith wrote:
JiCi wrote:
I don't know if monsters are gonna be added to the book, but I'd like throw you guys an idea: we can't have Gem Dragons in Pathfinder because they're properties of WotC, so how about a template that converts a dragon's arcane spellcasting ability into power points and powers?

There will be psionic dragons in the Psionic Bestiary.

:)

Oh, alright, that's cool ^_^

Like I said, while I never doubted that you couldn't have psionic dragons in your books, the fact that the Gem Dragons were barred did make me question the validity.

You still should make a template that can turn a non-psionic dragon into one though, that would be cool :)


Will the new psionic dragons have a theme like the core dragons (Metallic, Chromatic)?


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Isuru wrote:
Will the new psionic dragons have a theme like the core dragons (Metallic, Chromatic)?

Hi, Isuru

What I did (for my part with the psionic dragons) was base them upon the six psionic disciplines.

Now, as I said earlier, Jeremy told me that he and Andreas will be tweeking/reworking my psionic dragons somewhat to better fit their vision, but I'm guessing the "basic" theme I started out with will still be a part of them.

Dean


Shain Edge wrote:

Is there some way that you guys can get with Paizo and somehow make it firmly clear that your Psionics is official with the Pathfinder Game?

wolflair who does Hero Lab seems to not want to do a psionic module because Psionics isn't official. :p

What does "official" mean?

As far as I can tell it can mean two things:
1} Published by Paizo. Which no 3rd-party material - including Dreamscarred's psionics material - can possibly be.

2} Pathfinder RPG compatible. Which Dreamscarred's psionics material absolutely is.

Maybe I'm missing some weird 3rd possibility here, but if anyone is avoiding doing anything because 3rd-party material isn't "official", well, they're going to be avoiding it for a very long time.


I assume he meant 3} Pathfinder products use Dreamscarred rules as needed in their products.

My sense is that Pathfinder will (eventually) publish there own psychic magic rules, but it will use a different system than the old Psionics. So presumably won't step on Dreamscarred Press's toes.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

I assume he means officially licensed like Dragon and Dungeon used to be officially licensed content for D&D despite but being produced by Wizards of the Coast.

The last time I asked about that, Paizo was not interested.

Should that change, we are always very willing to go down that path.

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So, it appears that I failed to post up the actual mechanics of the new races... If I did, I sure couldn't find it, and I'd have been the one to post it, so I doubt anyone else would have seen it.

So, I've posted up the racial traits for both the Forgeborn and the Noral in our psionic playtesting forum

Dark Archive

Forgeborn

Noral

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Yeah, that's a backer-only post. :)


...The half-construct subtype? So they're soulless and nonresurrectable? Why not the Constructed trait from Inner Sea Bestiary?


I just saw the mindwright archetype for the psion. I know I'm a bit late, but it's really good!

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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
...The half-construct subtype? So they're soulless and nonresurrectable? Why not the Constructed trait from Inner Sea Bestiary?

While I have quite a few Paizo books - and more PDFs - I can't claim to have them all.

Care to clue me in on to what that trait is and what its cost from a Race Builder perspective might be? Part of the reason we went with Half-construct was because we were using the rules in the ARG to create both the Forgeborn and the Dreamscarred races.

Liberty's Edge

Constructed (Ex) For the purposes of effects targeting creatures by type (such as a ranger’s favored enemy and bane weapons), androids count as both humanoids and constructs. Androids gain a +4 racial bonus on all saving throws against mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, and stun effects, are not subject to fatigue or exhaustion, and are immune to disease and sleep effects. Androids can never gain morale bonuses, and are immune to fear effects and all emotion-based effects.


Constructed is 10 RP, I believe. (There are errata issues, I think 10 was the final word.)

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10 RP is too expensive. We would have to gut the race, as we did not want it to be above 10.

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Hey Jeremy, as per the conversation above about making it available in Kindle format, Amazon is not the only outlet that supplies EPUB books. Just something to look into if you were interested.

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Thanks, Radiarch. I will look into that. :)


Jeremy Smith wrote:
Thanks, Radiarch. I will look into that. :)

You'll have at least one sale.


Can backers buy the special art book you are giving to those who pre-ordered? I am getting everything but that in the kickstarter. I did buy the two previous books but I did not pre-order.


Can't wait, didn't get in on the Kickstarter because well.. Didn't know about it! But doting to follow in the future and look forward to the new book!

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PathfinderFan64 wrote:
Can backers buy the special art book you are giving to those who pre-ordered? I am getting everything but that in the kickstarter. I did buy the two previous books but I did not pre-order.

EVERYTHING in the kickstarter except the stuff reserved for the $200 and up pledges will be publicly available once it's competed.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Also, just to give a separate update on other parts of the project - the content for the GM screen is being discussed and actually laid out, 3 of the 4 graphics for the panels are done, with the last expected later this month. My hope is to have it off to print by the end of the month. :)

And the plan is to have the posters off to the printer next month - just waiting on the final graphic. From the sketch I've seen... well, it's going to be awesome.


Will there be an option to add the art book to our kickstarter before it ships? I am already getting everything including the limited edition hardback. I guess I should have added the art book back when it was offered. I was just not sure about the quality of the art. Now that I have seen a lot of the art I now know how great it turned out.


Jeremy Smith wrote:
10 RP is too expensive. We would have to gut the race, as we did not want it to be above 10.

Replacing Half-Construct with Constructed would add only three points, which would still make forgeborn less expensive than androids, who come out at 16 RP and are not considered overpowered by comparison to other intentionally-playable 0-HD races.

I honestly believe you're being too conservative with your RP costs. Anything under 20 will probably not cause a significant problem or player/GM uproar.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

PathfinderFan64 wrote:
Will there be an option to add the art book to our kickstarter before it ships? I am already getting everything including the limited edition hardback. I guess I should have added the art book back when it was offered. I was just not sure about the quality of the art. Now that I have seen a lot of the art I now know how great it turned out.

Yup!

Likely next month.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
10 RP is too expensive. We would have to gut the race, as we did not want it to be above 10.

Replacing Half-Construct with Constructed would add only three points, which would still make forgeborn less expensive than androids, who come out at 16 RP and are not considered overpowered by comparison to other intentionally-playable 0-HD races.

I honestly believe you're being too conservative with your RP costs. Anything under 20 will probably not cause a significant problem or player/GM uproar.

I'll have to recheck, but I thought the ARG put standard player races at 10 RP or less?

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Jeremy Smith wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
10 RP is too expensive. We would have to gut the race, as we did not want it to be above 10.

Replacing Half-Construct with Constructed would add only three points, which would still make forgeborn less expensive than androids, who come out at 16 RP and are not considered overpowered by comparison to other intentionally-playable 0-HD races.

I honestly believe you're being too conservative with your RP costs. Anything under 20 will probably not cause a significant problem or player/GM uproar.

I'll have to recheck, but I thought the ARG put standard player races at 10 RP or less?

8-11 RP. Half-orcs at 8 and going up to dwarves at 11 RP.


Thanks. I will be adding the art book when it is available to my kickstarter. The art looks great. You hired a lot of good artists.

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PathfinderFan64 wrote:
Thanks. I will be adding the art book when it is available to my kickstarter. The art looks great. You hired a lot of good artists.

Thanks!

It's amazing what having an actual art budget will do. ;)


I'm pretty sure, if it helps, that a 20-point race is not (for example) actually twice as powerful as a 10-pointer. It'd be more in the range of a third to a half again, and the power levels are... fuzzy? Fuzzy at best. When the Pathfinder rules first came out tieflings were considered notably more powerful than core races, with instructions to that effect in the Council of Thieves AP, but over time this has been discarded and tieflings are now considered just another race.

(Also note on page 219 of the ARG that the APL doesn't increase until the party average RP hits 20.)

I should say that my real problem with Half-Construct is that no D&D/Pathfinder gamer I have ever met in my entire thirty-year gaming career would be willing to play an inherently non-resurrectable character. It's just not a thing that happens.

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