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Wildmonsters wrote:

Personally I house rule most of those abilities to deal an amount of d6's of stat damage (usally 3d6). My players seam to enjoy it more then flat out you lose.

Buh? That's often worse than the effects you're talking about.

Lol I won't disagree, it's probbly overkill. I mosly use it for effects that last hours or longer, mainly paralysis, petrifiecation, and effects the kill you instantly. My players and I would rather die cuz 3 d6's rolled hight then fumbling one roll.

Edit: Also what Lanathar said above

Personally I house rule most of those abilities to deal an amount of d6's of stat damage (usally 3d6). My players seam to enjoy it more then flat out you lose.

Dotting. I like what see.

Don't forget any cover or concealment that may apply to there attacks while burrowed, if they try to attack while submerged.
And readyed attacks, supper useful when your not sure when an enemy's gonna pop out anywere.

My players resontly finished skulls and shackles and the first decree our new hurricane king made was to abolish the free captains system. What effect on the shackles would such a thing create?

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Imbicatus wrote:

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I want to agree with you but it doesn't say anything about targeting a creature just "focusing your stare". Not to mention again but you can do it blind and all you need to do with a dc 20 concentration check.

You Focus your stare on one creature within 30 feet. If you are aware of that creatures location you can do so, but if you are not aware, there is nothing you can focus on.

without any actual rules telling us wtf they mean by focus, its really up in the air. Although im sure the intent wasnt to just ping things willy nilly

My concern with the Slashing Grace arguement is that I think "damage" is a typo to begin with. If you read the feat's requirements and text, it does not have anything directly to do with the swashbuckler that it doesn't do with everything else. I think it was intended to allow characters to apply their Dex bonus to ATTACK ROLLS instead of damage, as nothing in the feat's description actually allows you to do so, other than the presumption that you get to do so from Swashbuckler's Finesse. It also doesn't mention using the weapon two-handed or in the off-hand, which they usually do in the case of damage.

Please take any slashing grace comments to another thred we've been ask to stop talking about it here

Any feat in the book that lets a character disable magic traps?

One can always hope for this as there are other feats that grant you other classes class features.

didn't see one but isn't there a trait that dose that?

edit: found it looks like its out of mummy's mask so i could see alot of dm's saying no Trap finder

Does anyone know if the Feral Hunter archetype still gets it's teamwork feats?

far as I can tell they get one less but still otherwise get them as bonus feats.

actully you'd be surprised,between the 2 feats that let you use reflex saves in place of fort and will saves, amiture swashbuckler, the feat chain that gives studied combat, and the archtype that gives sneak attack and int to damage with splash weapons, the rouge has some new toys to play with. Probably not enough for most people to see the rouge as 'viable' but at least they got stuff.

edit: was in response to a ,now deleted, post about the rogue

How about Slayer talents that rogues are allowed to take?

not seeing anything that lets a rogue take slayer talents, wouldnt suprise me if we get something like that in a future product though

I just gotta know....

Is there a section on designing your own class or archetypes? something similar to the Race Builder?

Is there anything that even remotely resembles the Dark Knight from Final Fantasy, from leeching HP abilities/spells to damaging yourself to hurt your enemies badly?

How good are the prestige classes?! Is paizo still on it's Prestige-class hate, or are they actually good this time?

edit: I like the idea of handing out class abilities. I may actually yet live to see a d20 game system that does away with classes and gives you "Prime Archetypes" from which to choose your abilities from.

yes, no point based system like the ARG though but there is a chapter of class design

anyone looking specificly for book spoilers it suggest running over to the Product thred , lot of that going on over there.

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No samurai or ninja stuff

Technically Samurai can grab Cav orders.

I think Ninjas can get some rogue talents too. Any Rogue Talents?

nope, or at least if there are there not in the rogue section.

Nothing for rogues or fighters, I suppose...?

actully you'd be surprised,between the 2 feats that let you use reflex saves in place of fort and will saves, amiture swashbuckler, the feat chain that gives studied combat, and the archtype that gives sneak attack and int to damage with splash weapons, the rouge has some new toys to play with. Probably not enough for most people to see the rouge as 'viable' but at least they got stuff.

the fighters got some niffty toys as well, between the feat that grants limited martial flexibility and the 2 archetypes they get they got quite a bit going for them. one archtype replaces weapon training with martial flexability, and the other replaces armor training with mutagen and and some discoveries, mostly ones that upgrade mutagen but stuff like vistigel arms and wings are on that list to.

I'm curious what does the Mutation Warrior have to give up from Fighter?

And are there any new discoveries that look good for that archetype?

drops armor training and its upgrades. most of the discoveries they can take are the ones that enhance mutagen but there's a few that don't, vistigil arms, wings, tentacle.

A question about the investigator: does it have the option to apply studied combat and studied strikes to ranged attacks?

if i recall correctly it dose, its ether a feat or an archtype, away from my pdf atm

I wonder if there are any good fighter archetypes in the ACG, or if they gave everything good to the fighter-hybrid classes.

2 one that gives mutagen and on that gives Martial flexibility

Question. Is that one of "able to cast 2nd-level divine spells", blessings, domains, or mystery, or "able to cast 2nd-level divine spells" and one of blessings, domains, or mystery?

Fair question let me just quote it

so pretty sure its 2nd lvl spells and also ether of toughs 3 features

I had not heard about this feature of the ACG. I think it sounds very cool!

yeah, once the books out proper im expecting a lot of people to be really surprised by these sort of options as paizo hasn't really mentioned it at all. Feats like amateur swashbuckler granting a nice chunk of swash toys, there's a simuler feat that hands out inspiration, many many archetypes swapping out class features like judgement and wild shape for sneak attack and studied combat. feats that give limited uses of martial flexibility to non brawlers, amulets that grant bloodraging.

I believe it required some other stuff, too (ranks in Knowledge-Religion, for example), but might've misinterpreted.

Cha 13, Knowledge(religion)5,

so not supper hard

Thanks! One more question... What is a rageshaper? What does it do?

ups damage on natural attacks gained threw polymoph spells and makes it ezer to cast transmutation spells

Wildmonsters wrote:

Verzen wrote:

When does that ability come into effect? Level 4, I presume? So at lvl 4, I would have 12 SR?

Correct

is tht only while raging?

yeah, you also cant lower it like you normally can with SR

For a 3rd time I guess...

Can the archetype (untouchable rager) stack with crossblooded or rageshaper?

yes on both accounts

When does that ability come into effect? Level 4, I presume? So at lvl 4, I would have 12 SR?

Correct

I feel it depends on who your playing with. Some people will take the advice you suggested above and roll with it, other will take one look at it and go "no, I said i wanted to be a child not some weird demon blooded hobet"

How strong is the SR for untouchable ragers?

8+lvl plus an extra 1 At 7th,10th,13th,and 16th

with the arrival of the AGC it looks like theres a ton of ways to get just about any of the new class's abilities on just about any other class. it looks like just about any new mechanics you want thers a feat/archtype/magic item to get ahold of it. Now while I personal really enjoy it, I'm curious what others thoughts on the matter are

Here's a question: does wandering spirit affect your spirit animal?

far as I can tell no it only grants the spells and spirit abilities of the wandering spirit

Druid and Oracle: what kinda archetypes are they rockin' these days?

both mostly get archtypes that give them other classes new toys, such as insperation, and studied combat

Wildmonsters wrote:

I think I saw someone ask about the inquisitor archetype that gets slayer toys, don't think I saw anyone give a response

In a nutshell they drop judgment and all of its improvements for sneak attack studied target and some slayer talents.

Thank you, I was curious about this. Do they get access to a combat style at 2?

sorry missed your post earlier, they don't start getting slayer talents till lvl 8, so no they don't get access to combat style for a while.

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Gisher wrote:

Sure thing. Any good news for bludgeoning weapons?

Doing a quick search for bludgeoning didnt turn up anything relevant though i may have overlooked it

Thanks for looking. I was hoping for a spell or enchantment that is the equivalent of keen.

On second look Theres the Brawling weapon enchant that lets you add its enhancement to combat maneuver checks, that only works of 'fist' weapons and light bludgeoning weapons but that about it as far as I can see

Basically, if you want a specific class ability that you don't normally have, there's pretty much a way to get it on another class with the right archetype/feat/magic item.

which is probably my favoret thing about the book, lot of chocolate in my various peanutbutters

That sounds incredible. Does it keep solo tactics?

yep,yep just drops judgement and all of its improvements, it'll probably end up being my go to for most of my inquisitors going forward.

Sure thing. Any good news for bludgeoning weapons?

Doing a quick search for bludgeoning didnt turn up anything relevant though i may have overlooked it

I think I saw someone ask about the inquisitor archetype that gets slayer toys, don't think I saw anyone give a response

In a nutshell they drop judgment and all of its improvements for sneak attack studied target and some slayer talents.

Dont have any links handy but the daggermark poisoner prestige class has a bunch of poison abilitys a few of which up the DC

Will those of us who perordered off the dreamscared press website also be getting the pdf or is that only for pazio.com preorders

Tommarow!

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lfja?New-Rules-New-Ideas-New-Stories

GA why is it only with a case. i can afford a brick but i just any afford a whole case 400+ dollars is to rich for my blood....Nice looking mini though

Im so upset the i never hear about the kickstarter, would have jumped on that in an instant, definitely looking forward to the release

Achemist, then go into the Daggermark poisoner from paths of prestige the ability to mass produce poisons for the party at DC's 6+ hi gher than normal can be a ggreat boon

That's not what he said. He wants them - he just doesn't want them untested.

Fair enough, my mistake

I hope not. This is something that has been screwed up REALLY bad before (Weapons of Legacy).

That's hardly a reason not to do it

Do words of power have spell components? Like verbal or synaptic, im looking threw the effect words amd they dont appear to, unless I'm missing something

The Draconic Glide kobold feat (pg.136) under special states

Special: If you have the gliding wings
racial trait, instead of the above abilities,
your base speed increases to 30 feet.

but Kobold base speed is already 30 so what is this feat intended to do do?

Yes, but all constructs have a Caster Level (CL) and what I can find for generic animated object is CL 11, which I can not ignore. I can get around that by using animate object and casting permanency on it, in which case 9th level is the soonest I can do so. Unless there is some way to alter caster level or other wise give a helping hand to crafting constructs. Something I have yet to find but was hoping existed.

actuly unless the caster lvl is in the reqirements section its not the requirment for crafting

here we have the entery for scarecrow witch dose have a minimum caster lvl required (Bolding is mine)

Scarecrow

CL 6th; Price 15,500 gp
CONSTRUCTION

Requirements Craft Construct, command, fear, geas/quest, hypnotic pattern, creator must be caster level 6th; Skill Craft (carpentry), Craft (sculptures), or Profession (farmer) DC 12; Cost 8,000 gp

and here we have a generic animated object notes the line above isn't there

Animated Object

CL varies (equal to the animated object’s HD); Price varies (cost of object + [(animated object’s HD + CP) × 1,000])
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Construct, animate objects, permanency; Skill optional (determined by object being created; crafting the object reduces its cost); Cost 1/2 price.

edit: note the requirements for the generic Animated construct are Craft Construct, animate objects, permanency the 2 spells we can ignore by adding 5 to the dc for each we chose to ignore so all we are truly required is the Craft Construct feat

Souldrinker link
Herm...Id assume that it would be your souldrinker lvl's plus any other lvl's of a class that grants a Familiar

if we look at the rules for Familiars

Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.

as well as here;

All familiars have special abilities (or impart abilities to their masters) depending on the master's combined level in classes that grant familiars, as shown on the table below. The abilities are cumulative.

and the fact that the souldrinker's cacodaemon is as if improved Familiar

At 1st level, the souldrinker gains a cacodaemon familiar, as if she had the Improved Familiar feat. If the souldrinker already has a familiar, the cacodaemon devours it (which does not penalize the souldrinker). The souldrinker counts as an evil outsider for the purpose of utilizing cacodaemon soul gems.

Personaly love the Cacodaemon DR5, energy resistance 10 to cold electricity and fire,Fast healing 2 combined with at will invisibility makes for a not so squishy buddy

No one cares if twf has access to monkey grip because they will not hit anything. On top of that twf is a feat trap tree. You deal less damage for more feats than the 2handed combatant. Not only is twf not feat cost effective but it costs more gold because you're going to have two weapons. Also vital strike is sort of a waste of a feat if you're not charge focused.

It was my understanding that you cant use vital strike on a charge

Id be more worried about vital strike then about two weapon fighting.

The Persistence Inquisition has this ability

Relentless Footing (Ex): As a swift action, you can add 10 feet to your land speed. This increase counts as an enhancement bonus, and it affects your jumping distance as normal for increased speed. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom bonus (minimum 1).

So how long dose it last?

I pretty sure there is no "off hand" unless you use twf

Rather then replacing the order feature maybe make 2 or 3 that fit the theam of the archetype.

sounds fair to me, personally id probably just make it a bomb discovery that modifies your bombs to heal instead. But this works to