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Silver Crusade

I started watching this series called Samurai Flamenco. At first it felt like an anime take on Kick-Ass. Guy wants to be a hero, dresses up in a costume, goes get beat up. It was okay at first, but around episode 6 or 7 it just stopped making sense. Still fun, but a different type of fun.


Xzaral wrote:
I started watching this series called Samurai Flamenco. At first it felt like an anime take on Kick-Ass. Guy wants to be a hero, dresses up in a costume, goes get beat up. It was okay at first, but around episode 6 or 7 it just stopped making sense. Still fun, but a different type of fun.

Like FLCL fun?


FLCL hurt my brain. I had to stop watching it.

Silver Crusade

I wouldn't say like FLCL fun.

Some Minor Samurai Flamenco Spoilers included:

The series starts off in the realm of realism. Sure, there's a few things that are slightly over the top (people suriving a spiked mace to the head without serious injury for example), but nothing too bad. Then an episode ends with a human turning into a monster. At that point it amps up the strangeness very quickly.

Silver Crusade

Vrog Skyreaver wrote:
say what you will about SAO, the 2nd season's villain, Sugo, was creepy as hell.

Looking forward to Season 2... Gun Gale Arc!

Silver Crusade

Xzaral wrote:

I wouldn't say like FLCL fun.

** spoiler omitted **

Does it get Excel Saga weird? Because that's an order of weird all on its own...


Vrog Skyreaver wrote:
I will say this about Mobile Suit Gundam: Amuro Ray started the whole "angsty teenage mecha pilot" meme, which a small part of me will never forgive him for. Other than that, about as perfect a "power armor"/war series as you can get.

Amuro Rei was so much more than just an angsty teenage mecha pilot, though. Amuro was a soldier, and a hard-bitten one, at that. The one scene I need to make my case: Amuro, with his mother sitting next to him in the hospital, shoots an enemy soldier dead and doesn't bat an eye about it.

Amuro, like Char, is a BAMF, and we need to recognize that.

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Eva could have learned so much from MSG, and instead chose not to.

I have nothing good to say about EVA (you don't want to hear my rant, trust me), so I shall say nothing.

Grand Lodge

I don't watch anime much, But I'm more of a manga reader. One of my favorite manga series is Berserk.


Berserk is depressing as hell, and the manga more so.


jemstone wrote:


Amuro Rei was so much more than just an angsty teenage mecha pilot, though. Amuro was a soldier, and a hard-bitten one, at that. The one scene I need to make my case: Amuro, with his mother sitting next to him in the hospital, shoots an enemy soldier dead and doesn't bat an eye about it.

later in the series, sure. but I think about the point in the series where he refused to pilot the gundam and sat in his room, pouting.


I've been having a blast watching "Space dandy". It's quite fun, absurd & ridiculous.

Sovereign Court Wayfinder, PaizoCon Founder

Wading into this thread....I didn't see anyone mention Mushi-Shi.

Excellent, EXCELLENT series.


Vrog Skyreaver wrote:
jemstone wrote:


Amuro Rei was so much more than just an angsty teenage mecha pilot, though. Amuro was a soldier, and a hard-bitten one, at that. The one scene I need to make my case: Amuro, with his mother sitting next to him in the hospital, shoots an enemy soldier dead and doesn't bat an eye about it.
later in the series, sure. but I think about the point in the series where he refused to pilot the gundam and sat in his room, pouting.

Fair point, but his reasons are valid (at the time) and he does realize that he's being a hindrance to others in relatively short order.

Unlike, say, carrying on like that for the entire damned series.


don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a permanent thing by any stretch of the imagination; I'm just saying that it seems like a lot of bad anime creators in the 90's and early 00's saw that moment as the epitome of what it meant to be character development in a mecha pilot, and that was all they took away from it.

It's the same reason I hate clowns: the first one I encountered ruined the entire experience for me.


Vrog Skyreaver wrote:


It's the same reason I hate clowns: the first one I encountered ruined the entire experience for me.

I feel that way about santa claus. Creepy rosy-cheeked bastard.


williamoak wrote:
I feel that way about santa claus. Creepy rosy-cheeked bastard.

don't forge the fact that he breaks into billions of homes on Christmas eve. that alone should get him life imprisonment.


Vrog Skyreaver wrote:
williamoak wrote:
I feel that way about santa claus. Creepy rosy-cheeked bastard.
don't forge the fact that he breaks into billions of homes on Christmas eve. that alone should get him life imprisonment.

He always watches when you fap. The pervert.


Tels wrote:
Vrog Skyreaver wrote:
williamoak wrote:
I feel that way about santa claus. Creepy rosy-cheeked bastard.
don't forge the fact that he breaks into billions of homes on Christmas eve. that alone should get him life imprisonment.
He always watches when you fap. The pervert.

Well then, let's give him a show why dont we?

Silver Crusade

I'm not usually into things the French do... call it my American bias, if you want. I just don't get their pretentiousness and most people's fascination with it.

Now, some good things have come out of France and I'm quick to acknowledge it when they occur: Count of Monte Cristo, The Man in the Iron Mask, Brotherhood of the Wolf and the live-action Crying Freeman immediately come to mind (though the Crying Freeman movie wasn't nearly as good as Brotherhood).

So this week, after months of pressure, I sat down and watched season one of Wakfu. I wasn't expecting to be impressed. But I have to admit that I came away from the experience very impressed. The show, based on a popular MMORPG of the same name, is very shonen. I knew nothing about the game its based on, but that's the beauty of the show: you don't need to. The storytelling is enough that the lack of knowledge is not a hindrance.

My favorite character from the series is without a doubt Sir Sadlygrove Percedal, knight of the Order of the Guardians of the Shushus (demons trapped in objects; in Grovy's case, it's a sword). And though I initially didn't like the fact that he was so goofy, in the end it was that very thing made me appreciate him more than any of the others. When he comes into his own later in the season and has his defining moment of badassery, it is a sight to behold.

And the villain, Nox, is, without question, easily one of the most sympathetic villains I've seen in a while.

So, to the French I say, well done. I'm eagerly looking forward to watching season two.


Witchcraft Works in the new season of offerings has been entertainingly fun.

I also liked Arpeggio of Blue Steel.(some plot holes,but the ships are visually entertaining.)

/throwing another into the ring.


I have had deep love in my heart for many anime movies, among them Akira, Ninja Scroll, Laputa, Mononoke Hime and The End of Evangelion. In many ways, I suppose, I love anime. So why is there something fundamentally aggravating about its very existence?

I really think it has something to do with the fans. You meet people who know everything there is to know about anime, and yet they know next to nothing about, you know, live action films (and also, often, about Japanese culture, beyond modern pop ephemera). Something is wrong there. It smacks of trying too hard to be knowledgeable about arcana.

Anyway, anime was unquestionably central to the formation of my love of fantasy, particularly Ninja Scroll and Mononoke Hime. But that was like 20 years ago... These days it mostly feels played out and repetitive to me, but this thread has inspired me to look up a few of the titles being discussed and give it a second chance. I was pleasantly surprised by Death Note. I'll even give this Moribito show a chance even though its loudest proponent here absurdly referred to Evangelion as "trash."

Silver Crusade

Cowboy Bebop is the best anime I've ever seen, perhaps even the best TV show, period. Yes, I know everyone hypes it, but it lives up to it for me. I get something new out of it every time I watch it, and I've watched it a lot.

I love Gurren Lagann. I can't help but get into it and feel the energy from it when I watch it. It just simply makes me happy.

Attack on Titan is my current obsession. It manages to work as a deconstruction of the typical shonen tropes while still working on its own level, much like Evangelion (except targeted on shonen fighting series instead of giant mecha series).

Really loved Paranoia Agent and Big O, also. I was so angry when I found out that Big O could have had a third season.


Erick Wilson wrote:

I have had deep love in my heart for many anime movies, among them Akira, Ninja Scroll, Laputa, Mononoke Hime and The End of Evangelion. In many ways, I suppose, I love anime. So why is there something fundamentally aggravating about its very existence?

I really think it has something to do with the fans. You meet people who know everything there is to know about anime, and yet they know next to nothing about, you know, live action films (and also, often, about Japanese culture, beyond modern pop ephemera). Something is wrong there. It smacks of trying too hard to be knowledgeable about arcana.

Anyway, anime was unquestionably central to the formation of my love of fantasy, particularly Ninja Scroll and Mononoke Hime. But that was like 20 years ago... These days it mostly feels played out and repetitive to me, but this thread has inspired me to look up a few of the titles being discussed and give it a second chance. I was pleasantly surprised by Death Note. I'll even give this Moribito show a chance even though its loudest proponent here absurdly referred to Evangelion as "trash."

Moribito is an excellent fantasy series. It's a nice level of magic and reality, nothing overly over the top, no things exploding every five seconds. Just a very good spiritualism level of magic. Also The main character is one of the best female warriors I've seen anywhere and one of the very few who is sensibly dressed.

You might want to try Guin Saga as well if Moribito ends up being something you enjoy.

Silver Crusade

Moribito is an excellent series. Has some of the best fighting sequences in anime. They're all well thought out.

Guin Saga is also pretty good. The hero kind of left me cold, but not enough to hinder my enjoyment of the series.

There are a lot of anime that I don't give the time of day to. Mainly because I can be very particular about what I watch. It's caused me no end of trouble with some of my less than discriminating friends, but it also leaves me able to really enjoy what I watch. I couldn't make it through the first episode of Hetalia, for example. Hearing Italy exclaim 'Pasta!' in that voice of his really grated on my nerves. But my friends love that series to death.

And really, that's okay.

Because there's enough anime out there to where I don't have to like it all. It just means that the ones I like, I'll cherish.


Moribito was one of the best anime I ever watched.

Death Note was by far the worst anime ever made... in my very correct opinion. I can go into details as to why if you wish but I would rather never think about the time I wasted viewing it. It is no small amount of frustrating that others love it.

I liked Evangelion at first but by the end hated it. It is still watchable but only if I ignore the story.

Cowboy Bebop is good... a little depressing but good.

Attack on Titan is on my "will watch soon" list, I expect great things.

Angel Links or Outlaw Star might be fun if you liked Cowboy Bebop. I found them fun.


Blayde MacRonan wrote:

I'm not usually into things the French do... call it my American bias, if you want. I just don't get their pretentiousness and most people's fascination with it.

Now, some good things have come out of France and I'm quick to acknowledge it when they occur: Count of Monte Cristo, The Man in the Iron Mask, Brotherhood of the Wolf and the live-action Crying Freeman immediately come to mind (though the Crying Freeman movie wasn't nearly as good as Brotherhood).

So this week, after months of pressure, I sat down and watched season one of Wakfu. I wasn't expecting to be impressed. But I have to admit that I came away from the experience very impressed. The show, based on a popular MMORPG of the same name, is very shonen. I knew nothing about the game its based on, but that's the beauty of the show: you don't need to. The storytelling is enough that the lack of knowledge is not a hindrance.

My favorite character from the series is without a doubt Sir Sadlygrove Percedal, knight of the Order of the Guardians of the Shushus (demons trapped in objects; in Grovy's case, it's a sword). And though I initially didn't like the fact that he was so goofy, in the end it was that very thing made me appreciate him more than any of the others. When he comes into his own later in the season and has his defining moment of badassery, it is a sight to behold.

And the villain, Nox, is, without question, easily one of the most sympathetic villains I've seen in a while.

So, to the French I say, well done. I'm eagerly looking forward to watching season two.

It's at this point I feel I should point out that much like their word for bread ("Pan"), the Japanese snagged their word for Animation ("Anime") from the French.

And hey, Ulysses 31 was a French-Japanese joint, so we already knew cool stuff was a-waitin'. ;)

Silver Crusade

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jemstone wrote:
Blayde MacRonan wrote:

I'm not usually into things the French do... call it my American bias, if you want. I just don't get their pretentiousness and most people's fascination with it.

Now, some good things have come out of France and I'm quick to acknowledge it when they occur: Count of Monte Cristo, The Man in the Iron Mask, Brotherhood of the Wolf and the live-action Crying Freeman immediately come to mind (though the Crying Freeman movie wasn't nearly as good as Brotherhood).

So this week, after months of pressure, I sat down and watched season one of Wakfu. I wasn't expecting to be impressed. But I have to admit that I came away from the experience very impressed. The show, based on a popular MMORPG of the same name, is very shonen. I knew nothing about the game its based on, but that's the beauty of the show: you don't need to. The storytelling is enough that the lack of knowledge is not a hindrance.

My favorite character from the series is without a doubt Sir Sadlygrove Percedal, knight of the Order of the Guardians of the Shushus (demons trapped in objects; in Grovy's case, it's a sword). And though I initially didn't like the fact that he was so goofy, in the end it was that very thing made me appreciate him more than any of the others. When he comes into his own later in the season and has his defining moment of badassery, it is a sight to behold.

And the villain, Nox, is, without question, easily one of the most sympathetic villains I've seen in a while.

So, to the French I say, well done. I'm eagerly looking forward to watching season two.

It's at this point I feel I should point out that much like their word for bread ("Pan"), the Japanese snagged their word for Animation ("Anime") from the French.

And hey, Ulysses 31 was a French-Japanese joint, so we already knew cool stuff was a-waitin'. ;)

Ahh.... Space Legend Ulysses. Brings back memories.

Oban-Star Racers is also a Franco-Japanese collaboration as well. And I enjoyed it very much.


Just watched ALLLLLLL of Tiger and bunny!!!! I'm up to date and may yet watch the movie. Great series!


Blayde MacRonan wrote:

I'm not usually into things the French do... call it my American bias, if you want. I just don't get their pretentiousness and most people's fascination with it.

Now, some good things have come out of France and I'm quick to acknowledge it when they occur: Count of Monte Cristo, The Man in the Iron Mask, Brotherhood of the Wolf and the live-action Crying Freeman immediately come to mind (though the Crying Freeman movie wasn't nearly as good as Brotherhood).

So this week, after months of pressure, I sat down and watched season one of Wakfu. I wasn't expecting to be impressed. But I have to admit that I came away from the experience very impressed. The show, based on a popular MMORPG of the same name, is very shonen. I knew nothing about the game its based on, but that's the beauty of the show: you don't need to. The storytelling is enough that the lack of knowledge is not a hindrance.

My favorite character from the series is without a doubt Sir Sadlygrove Percedal, knight of the Order of the Guardians of the Shushus (demons trapped in objects; in Grovy's case, it's a sword). And though I initially didn't like the fact that he was so goofy, in the end it was that very thing made me appreciate him more than any of the others. When he comes into his own later in the season and has his defining moment of badassery, it is a sight to behold.

And the villain, Nox, is, without question, easily one of the most sympathetic villains I've seen in a while.

So, to the French I say, well done. I'm eagerly looking forward to watching season two.

Welcome, my friend, to the Brotherhood of the Tofu! :)

You should check out season Two now. The action and humor are just as good, though the villain is a lot less sympathetic this time.

On the bright side, everyone (and I do mean everyone) comes back for more adventure, and we finally find out what is under Yugo's hat.

Silver Crusade

I'm five episodes in and I'm enjoying what I've seen.

So... we find out what's under the hat this season. I never really gave much thought to that until his battle against Nox (the villain mentioned something about finding out what he kept hidden under there) and Yugo's surprising reaction.

Based on what I'm seeing so far, it looks like the Shushus may be more of a threat this time around. I'll see if I'm right as this progresses.

I liked the thief and his shushu pistols. Reminds me of an old D&D character of mine. Hopefully he (and his cat brother) will be back.

Silver Crusade

Okay...

7 episodes later of Wakfu season 2 and I'm laughing my butt off. The boufball arcs crack me up... and even though its an obvious soccer analog (I'm not a European football fan), I looked forward to those episodes.

They didn't disappoint.

Had a feeling about the Masked Boufballer. But I was totally wrong about the relationship. And that had to be the most metal town I've ever seen.

And the Shushu Rush... that gave me some ideas. Glad Remington showed back up. Found out he was named after one of the game servers.

Taking a break to catch up on Kill la Kill, Shippuden, and Magi: Kingdom of Magic. Maybe I'll squeeze some One Piece in... I'm trying to finish up the Thriller Bark arc currently because I've heard great stuff about the Impel Down arc and I'm still a good ways off from it.


I can't find the third volume of Dairugger XV on DVD anywhere for less than a bajillion dollars, and it's really annoying me. I have one and two, and I have a might neeeeeeeed for three, and it's being denied to me. :(


jemstone wrote:
I can't find the third volume of Dairugger XV on DVD anywhere for less than a bajillion dollars, and it's really annoying me. I have one and two, and I have a might neeeeeeeed for three, and it's being denied to me. :(

I'll keep an eye out. Follow my posts for when I'm going to a con.


Freehold DM wrote:
jemstone wrote:
I can't find the third volume of Dairugger XV on DVD anywhere for less than a bajillion dollars, and it's really annoying me. I have one and two, and I have a might neeeeeeeed for three, and it's being denied to me. :(
I'll keep an eye out. Follow my posts for when I'm going to a con.

You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.

Please do drop me a PM here if I forget to track your posts. Not that I will, but just in case. :)


I must encourage people again, check out "Space dandy". It is one of the most interesting & surreal shows I have ever seen, and one of the few anime I have enjoyed in the last few years.

Silver Crusade

Well, I'm done with the Thriller Bark, Sabaody Archipelago, Amazon Lily and Impel Down arcs. Yeah, that's alot of One Piece action.

Going in to the Marineford arc, I'm feeling pretty bad for Luffy. He's been through more in these 62 episodes than he has through out the series. And from Amazon Lily on, he's been without his crew. I'm looking forward to seeing how Marineford plays out. Got a feeling due to how personal this has been for Luffy that this one's going to be a dark arc.

With all this One Piece viewing, I haven't been watching Wakfu season 2 (I stopped after watching "The Voice Thief" to take a break). Once I'm done with Marineford, I'll go back to Wakfu (something tells me I'll need the cheeriness of the series).

I have heard that last Saturday was the last showing of Inu Yasha on Cartoon Network, due to them losing the license to it. This weekend, they'll be bringing Symbionic Titan (an excellent series that deserves a new season) back to the Toonami lineup, serving as the 5:30 am closer. I've never been a fan of Inu Yasha (this was due mostly to being inundated with too many AMVs that were all the same scenes back in its heyday of popularity), so I'm not overly bothered by this. I am wondering what Black Lagoon is going to take the place of when it debuts later this month. Maybe Star Wars: The Clone Wars?

We'll see.

Silver Crusade

I've got to say I really enjoy One Piece. I've watched parts of the anime, but mostly the Manga on it. I really should fix that at some point, but just so much to catch up on.

I won't spoil anything, but I will say I did enjoy the Marineford arc. And I typed like six things, all being spoilers, that I erased. Enjoy it!


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All I'm going to say about the Marinford arc is that White Beard is the most manly, awesome, SOB ever created.

The Exchange

Would anime versions of novels and films and historical events be popular? Would you prefer aussie classics like galipoli, light horsemen, mad max, or storm boy converted to anime? Would they appeal to a global anime audience? In U.S. terms would Louis lamour's sackett novels do well as an anime series?

Silver Crusade

It depends really...

I'd say that if the quality of the tale is good enough, then it could sell pretty well. I'd personally would love to see a bona fide Western series done as an anime or manga. But it would have to have something else going for it, something that would make it stand out from everything else in the market.


I know Anne of green gables has a huge fan following. The anime and Manga are supposedly excellent.


I wouldn't mind seeing the Percy Jackson book series done up in an anime style.


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The anime of Anne of Green Gables is excellent and Ghibli did do a version of the Borrowers. There is a series called Secret of Cerulean Sand which is loosely based on some of Jules Vernes works.

As far as historical films go, One of the most powerful WW2 films I've ever seen is an Anime called Grave of the Fireflies. Absolutely heart breaking film


There is a collection of anime children's stories that was put out in the 80s . used to watch it every day on the American military channel in Panama as a kid.


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Am I the only person who remembers Robot Carnival?

Silver Crusade

You are not jemstone. I actually own a VHS copy of Robot Carnival (the only VHS of any movie or series that I haven't been able to find a DVD copy of).


I like Robot Carnival, wish they would (re)release on DVD.


Do you think if we plead loudly enough they might?

I don't understand why they haven't. It's not like the movie isn't recognized as a ground-breaking classic or anything...


What was Robot Carnival like?
There looks to be 3 copies of the DVD at the Amazon.com site but is it worth buying? Or is this one of those anime that was better when it first aired and will look extremely dated now?

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