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Jaoh San wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Jaoh San wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Anyone said Spawn of Lamashtu yet?
Never heard of it. Tell me everything you know.
Just this. I was kind of kidding, but it could make for an interesting plot device.

Sounds neat.

As i already said, we are planning to get the child robbed by the queen of wolves, who later will try to bring the offspring to fight for her and take his place beside her for his father our half orc. But Lamashtu should give us a good kick off to start that story. thanks!

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*TRIGGER WARNING: MISCARRIAGE, STIs*

You could simply inform the druid after she's back in human form that changing back caused a spontaneous miscarriage. Or if it's too late for that, cause a spell or some other effect in combat to cause it.

If you want to run with it, I would agree that lycanthropy is probably at least potentially an STI, after all the body fluids of the werewolf (saliva, blood) carry the curse so probably semen does as well, and in the course of mating probably some small abrasions would occur to allow the transmission, so the druid should have to do a fortitude save to avoid becoming an infected werewolf, unless she's immune or something. The babies would be natural weres as well.

What the druid has to deal with depends on the druid's religion's view of lycanthropy, as others have pointed out. If you view weres as being a part of nature, as opposed to a perversion of it, then there's no issue. For example, if she is from an Ulfen background, she probably sees lycanthropy as a positive, rather than a negative, thing. (You could retcon this as being her background if you and she agree.)

Society would probably see it negatively, however considering the chaotic makeup of the River Kingdoms setting, there might be the opportunity to rally lycanthropes to the banner of a king who not only tolerates but openly befriends them. Not all lycanthropes are evil, as noted previously.


Check this template out regarding the PCs' offspring.


If you are looking for a demon lord for the baby, I'd say instead of Lamashtu, go for Jezelda. Jezelda is the patron demon lord of lycanthropes. Many of her minions include werewolves, worgs, and dire wolves. What's great is that she is actually racist against all non-wolf lycanthropes. It could be interesting to lead into a giant war between the normal humans, werewolves, and the other were creatures.


On the rare occasion when my PCs deliberately set out to create a horrific abomination child, I would happily pull out the Atropal from 3.X sourcebooks and say "Congratulations. You gave birth to one of these. It is not happy. What gear are you actually wearing as you birth the child?"

Since atropal hasn't been converted (yet. I remain hopeful), I'd recommend saying there's a miscarriage as soon as the mother changes shape. Then I'd apply the young template to a ghost and start having it hound the party. The CR gets decreased, so it might be below party level, in which case I'd turn around and say "oh, hey, you had a litter of ghost children who you have to deal with now! I hope you don't get them angry..."


Cyberwolf2xs wrote:


Note that "must be being truly repentant and desirous of setting right its misdeeds" isn't the same as "must be setting right its misdeed", the same way that "desiring to eat half a metric ton of ice cream" isn't the same as "eating half a metric ton of ice cream". ;)

See thats why its a get out of jail free card and a cop out.

"must be being truly repentant and desirous of setting right its misdeeds"

If one just talks about wanting to set it right, and then does absolutely nothing about it, then one is not really desirous of setting it right are they? Nor are they truly repentant. I'm taking it that the RAI is being flexible to allow people in an irreversible situation to still atone. Some decisions are one way, and it might not actually be possible to 'fix' whatever happened, not so in this case though.

So as a GM I read that and consider that the person needs to actually do something other than 'throw gold at the problem and lie about their sincerity'.

Anyhow I'll stick with the stolen baby plot device - with teenwolf coming back to slay his parents and take the crown, very Mordred and Arthur.


How is the half orc still able to be played as a lycanthrope?

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NobodysHome wrote:
Too many male players love to play female characters and get them pregnant because they don't understand the repercussions.

Wtf ? Never happened and will never do in our games, but maybe this is because we are pretty normal... even for D&D players standards.

The best suggestion I could provide to the OP is to TALK with his players as to know what they would like to happen and what they will have to deal with, so everyone is clear on the consequences of such acts ; but I didn't say this as it implies that he actually has to sit at a doomed table where he could permanently lose his sanity on a failed epic Will save, mind forever filled with eldritch furry/zoo fetish surges horrors that he would have see being roleplayed, or even worse, have to roleplay himself.

You seem too sympathic for such wicked crucible, my good friend. Wildshape sex screams awesome background story for a badass bestial character when overflown as what seems as an ancient tale, but when roleplayed ? Not touching this s$~# even with a 10-foot pole that goes through several plans of existence.


There's a lot of strange guys who like to play female characters for all the wrong reasons.

As above, this story is pretty poorly thought out for characters, but makes a fine badass badguy backstory that SHOULD come back to bite them in the ass (literally).


Turin the Mad wrote:
Check this template out regarding the PCs' offspring.

I don't think the therianthrope (wolfwere) template really fits here. These are both humanoids (human, half-orc) that just happen to be taking wolf form for the coupling. I don't see any reason why their offspring would be wolves that take humanoid form. The natural lycanthrope (werewolf) template still seems a better fit.

On another note, I know the OP and/or co-DM keeps saying the child will become their enemy. If that's the case, 1.) that's a really long campaign, and 2.) you might want to look at some King Arthur/Mordred stories for inspiration. In some stories Mordred is King Arthur's illegitimate son.

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I'd have the child be born a jackalwere and the party will have to deal with jackalwere Lamashtu cultists lead to them by their goddess to collect their unholy offspring.

When you start mixing forms, interesting things can happen.


I don't know if it was mentioned, but I think I should point out, if the Druid wildshapes, make her roll a Fortitude save. Keep in mind, there are now TWO people in one body, and one of them isn't a Druid. The druid is protected by the altering of her body, but is the baby? The Druids body goes through a twisting, chaotic change and her womb may expand or contract beyond what the baby can handle. It's possible that, during the change, the pressure on her internal organs is intense and could easily damage or kill the baby. If she were to wildshape into something like a mouse, it's almost assured the baby would be crushed in the womb.

I also have to agree with NobodysHome on the staggered condition. I wasn't adopted into their tribe, I was born into it. I am the second eldest of 7, my father is the middle child of 17, and his uncle also had 17 kids. I witnessed 14 births before I was 10 years old, and spent significant amounts of time with my aunts and cousins while they were pregnant. I have personally been in the room during the births of some 40 of my relatives. My sister has 1 child, and another on the way, and my brother has 2 children, and one of his ex-gfs had a child from another man. I was present during every step of those pregnancies and helped raise each of my siblings' children.

I will tell you, staggered DEFINITELY fits for their third trimester.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

An interesting idea here is for the child to become some sort of new bloodline of sorcerer...wolfblood or somesuch, since a direct and powerful magical effect (two, since lycanthropy is a magical curse) were required to bring him into being. Magical anomalies of any sort tend to breed sorcerers. I mean, if spontaneous reanimation after a stillbirth makes you undead blooded, why shouldn't such shenanigans create some sort of wolf-blood mage?

Especially since, from 3.0 onward, the sorcerer has been the standard answer to the question "what happens if X gets freaky with Y in situation Z?"


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Jaoh San wrote:

Hi Guys,

Im in a crazy position right now. We are playing the kingmaker Campain with a group of a witch, a blackblade, a human druid and a half ork / werewolf. We are focusing on the social playing in the campain sacrificing some of the economy play in kingmaker. That means we got lots of new NPCs and sidequests and less financial stuff.

And now comes the crazy part.
The druid and the half ork werewolf were having intercourse (wait for it...) while in their wild shape wolf form. They both were completely concious about the whole act with the intend of making an offspring.
Im in a crazy spot right now as a GM. I dont want to swing the "you cant do that" axe but i dont want to make a random decision either. The other Players in the group arent aware of the situation (ingame).

SO tell me:

When a human druid in wolf form, and a half ork/ lycanthrop in his wildshape are having intercourse would it be possible to have a living offspring out of this act? Furthermore while the show was going on, the werewolf was changing back from his wolfform into his hybrid form, so when the whole situation reached its climax we have a hybrid werewolf mating a druid in his wolf form.
After the act the druid changed back into her human form, being fertilized by a hybrid werewolf.

Im not joking and the two are serious about it. Im just kinda helpless due to this obnoxious act and need some serious help from you.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Sebastian

Druids never cease being humanoids while they are wildshaped. In essence, a druid never actually ceases being whatever they are, they just take on the aspects of the creature they transform into. Wildshape is merely a polymorph effect, and wouldn't persist after death either. In essence, I see little reason why a druid in wolf form having sex with another humanoid wouldn't provide a humanoid offspring despite the kinky coitus.

Lycanthropes are humanoids with the shapechanger subtype. They revert back to humanoid form if killed. Lycanthropes do not seem capable of breeding with actual animals, and if they could, it would likely result in a "wolfwere" (a lycanthrope whose natural form is a wolf but they can turn into a humanoid) which would still be a sentient humanoid shapeshifter.

Basically, you're going humanoid + humanoid w/lycanthropy = humanoid child with lycanthropy. So far, not too complex from a mechanical perspective.

That being said, I could see that the idea of shapeshifting to breed seems natural in a magical setting. For example, you can polymorph any object rocks into humans and breed them if you wanted to, to get more humans. So it seems like you might be able to get some sort of weird quirks due to the polymorphing effects; but most of those would probably be flavorful, such as the aforementioned lycanthrope who's forms were backwards (has little to no actual game effect), or having a humanoid who has eyes which seem a little off, or unusual hair colors, etc.

I mean, I for one am fond of the idea of wizards marrying their familiars who remain in humanoid form via magic (such as alter self) and producing children with hints of mystical lineage. I had one PC once who had a pair of mothers instead of a mother/father, thanks to alter self. Honestly, D&D/PF is kinky as hell by default just with the basic possibilities. Think that seems odd, you can even have a sentient magic item that transforms into a humanoid. Wrap your head around that one...

Honestly, keep it simple. Maybe the child is just prone to druidism, obviously has lycanthropy, and so forth. Only if you're trying to breed two different types of creatures together (humanoid + animal for example) should you begin trying to decide if you end up with any odd critters.


My thoughts...

  • Have the druid make checks of some kind or lose the pregnancy during the full moon unless she goes wolf form. Once this happens, you can classify the pregnancy as delicate, and possibly force the druid to go to the wolf mother for "advice".

  • Wolf mother offers to be a mid-wife. Child is born a half-orc with the toothy trait. He's a little over developed at birth and he growls instead of cries.

  • Wolf mother offers to take care of the child and help investigate what the child is. Specifically, if he is a lycanthrope that he can't infect people with his non-shifted bite attack, which would be a danger in the normal kingdom.

  • Druid thinks the baby is with the father. Wolf mother manipulates things to her own ends.

  • Last thought, child grows up a ranger with that shifter archetype?


  • After giving it more thought, I think this is actually probably not a huge issue. There's tons of druids. All of them of 4th level or higher wild shape. More than likely, this sort of thing, at least between druids, is not uncommon. They probably get into some kinky stuff too, like pony/bear combos and other bizarre things, and yet we still just get druids, aye? So either the babies come out as humanoids with screwy parents, or they don't exist at all. :P


    Do various shapechanges and polymorphs actually change your DNA is what i'd like to know.


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    Honestly, I say just Speilburg the situation. Pregnancy works, mother appears to miscarry, Wolf Mother kidnaps baby like you have planned (and makes sure it lives), and you wind up with a reverse Vader-Luke situation.

    Given the natural lycanthropy, you can even have the child age supernaturally fast, it's a handwave, sure, but it might make sense, specially if the Wolf Mother has a ritual to increase the age of her offspring (which would also give her new 'Vader' an army to command). Intense training could give it class levels.

    The story potential is HUGE here, don't miss out.

    Edit: And yet another of Ashiel's posts to favorite :). Stop that!


    Agreed - when all is said and done, make the most of this story for your campaign. It will make it quite memorable and unique among the Kingmaker campaigns journalized on these boards!


    Punnet square time!

    Coin 1

    Heads: half orc. Tails human

    Coin two

    Heads normal tails tail. Its a lycanthrope.


    Hmm, Druids wildshaping and having kinky sex with other wildshaping Druids. Perhaps that's how the Platypusbear came about...


    Tels wrote:
    Hmm, Druids wildshaping and having kinky sex with other wildshaping Druids. Perhaps that's how the Platypusbear came about...

    Forget platypus bear, its a decent explanation for the platypus


    Some 3PPs introduced a Lycanthropic Bloodline. An interesting one is in the Book of Arcane Magic.
    Then, there's the Cursed Lycanthropic Bloodline for sorcerers infected by lycanthropy, created by Maxximilius!
    What about this...
    Twins
    They both are born in hybrid form, but later lose their fur appearing as normal children... their "peculiarity" will appear very slowly while they're growing up.
    The male's a Wolf Shifter half-orc...
    The female's a human sorceress with orc bloodline and the cursed lycanthropic bloodline variant, or either a druidess with the Lycanthropic and Orc Bloodline eldritch heritage.

    As for the pregnancy in itself: there are pregnancies that go very smoothly for the mother, but this is definitely a diverse one. Some symptoms as nausea and changes of mood, and then weakness and clumsiness, are very auspicable. Someone created a whole system of pregnancy symptoms for 2E games (the Complete Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge), and then it was apparently updated to 3E here. Maybe it can give you some ideas. Personally, I'd say that, in addition to each and every other symptoms, the mother feels more and more compelled to pass much time in wolf form as the pregnancy goes on, and finally has to give birth in wolf form (also, it's a very difficult travail and delivery, possibly needing divine magic help).


    I like the litter of puppies...not game unbalancing.

    But why am I thinking Baby Fangface from the early 80's cartoon, though with a 5 Cha I'm also thinking cross between Baby Fang and Yuck from Mighty Man and Yuck.

    Whatever the abomination, make it wear a mini doghouse on its head to hide its appearance!


    Hi, guys.

    There are some great and some fantastic ideas that you brought up. My players will thank you for that. I also had the idea for twins, but at first i have to see, next monday, how the whole thing will play out. I will keep you up to date.


    Artemis Moonstar wrote:

    Honestly, I say just Speilburg the situation. Pregnancy works, mother appears to miscarry, Wolf Mother kidnaps baby like you have planned (and makes sure it lives), and you wind up with a reverse Vader-Luke situation.

    Given the natural lycanthropy, you can even have the child age supernaturally fast, it's a handwave, sure, but it might make sense, specially if the Wolf Mother has a ritual to increase the age of her offspring (which would also give her new 'Vader' an army to command). Intense training could give it class levels.

    The story potential is HUGE here, don't miss out.

    Edit: And yet another of Ashiel's posts to favorite :). Stop that!

    Thank you Artemis, I appreciate your favorites. Hopefully I won't be stopping it too soon. <(^-^)>==☆彡☆ミ☆


    Hell, use it as a plot hook. I am confident that followers of the already-mentioned Lamashtu would revel in acquiring a child of such monstrous birth.


    Jaoh San wrote:

    Hi Guys,

    Im in a crazy position right now. We are playing the kingmaker Campain with a group of a witch, a blackblade, a human druid and a half ork / werewolf. We are focusing on the social playing in the campain sacrificing some of the economy play in kingmaker. That means we got lots of new NPCs and sidequests and less financial stuff.

    And now comes the crazy part.
    The druid and the half ork werewolf were having intercourse (wait for it...) while in their wild shape wolf form. They both were completely concious about the whole act with the intend of making an offspring.
    Im in a crazy spot right now as a GM. I dont want to swing the "you cant do that" axe but i dont want to make a random decision either. The other Players in the group arent aware of the situation (ingame).

    SO tell me:

    When a human druid in wolf form, and a half ork/ lycanthrop in his wildshape are having intercourse would it be possible to have a living offspring out of this act? Furthermore while the show was going on, the werewolf was changing back from his wolfform into his hybrid form, so when the whole situation reached its climax we have a hybrid werewolf mating a druid in his wolf form.
    After the act the druid changed back into her human form, being fertilized by a hybrid werewolf.

    There's a .tumbler.com page that covers this.


    You are all mad :-)

    As father of three (boys) I can tell you that no matter what, the mother is permanently retired from adventuring. If the father dumps her and the kids, he can continue to adventure, but if he is even half-decent, he is retired as well.

    Having kids is a full time job, 24/7. And we have washing machines, electricity, cars, supermarkets, etc etc.

    Their 'lets have a fun child' should be met with real consequences, and they simply have to retire to take care of their child.

    What the child is, racial wise, is interesting, but irrellevant in this context :-)


    Tandriniel wrote:

    As father of three (boys) I can tell you that no matter what, the mother is permanently retired from adventuring. If the father dumps her and the kids, he can continue to adventure, but if he is even half-decent, he is retired as well.

    Having kids is a full time job, 24/7. And we have washing machines, electricity, cars, supermarkets, etc etc.

    Their 'lets have a fun child' should be met with real consequences, and they simply have to retire to take care of their child.

    What the child is, racial wise, is interesting, but irrellevant in this context :-)

    With the money to pay for servants to take care of the children and magic to make up for the modern conveniences, I don't quite buy that the parents would necessarily have to give up adventuring. Especially in an adventure that has plenty of downtime.

    Not that they'd be getting any World's Best Mom/Dad coffee mugs, but mechanically, they should have no trouble continuing their adventure. Especially if the DM has someone kidnap the kids as a later plot hook.


    People actually play out the rated X scenes?

    Ok, my suggestion: tell them that for you to find their union belieable that you require them to act out the roll play between their character. Hey, it might not solve the problem at hand but could lead to a nice show at least. Ah... the rewards of DMing.

    Shadow Lodge

    Shifty wrote:
    ... The choice has been made to afflict an unborn child with a magical malady that will (known fact) twist it's mind into (CE) a hunter and killer of man.

    Actually the forced alignment change doesn't seem to have made it into pathfinder. Unless I've missed something.


    Hi guys.

    Nice to see that the Thread is still going.
    We will have a little game tonight and i think i will continue the story with some haunting nightmares that the mother gets. Dark shadows clawing on her belly and her waking up with a open window and a bed full of blood. Maybe she wil think that she sadly lost the child but infact
    the Wolf Queen came to steal the child and raise it as her own (Anyone knows a spell to transfer a fetus from one womb to another?). She sees the potential of the offspring and will raise it to the new leader of the werewolf clan, creating a nemesis for both the mother and the father.
    Since the werewolf queen acts from the shadows and no one except the half ork knows of her existence, she will have enough time to let the young wolf grow and become a great foe in the later game. Even if the heroes should manage to bring him back to the bright side the wolf queen herself becomes their nemesis. Lots of potential.
    Lets see how it plays out.
    Yet gain thank you all, for participating in this story!
    You were a great help and inspiration.


    Lune wrote:

    People actually play out the rated X scenes?

    Ok, my suggestion: tell them that for you to find their union belieable that you require them to act out the roll play between their character. Hey, it might not solve the problem at hand but could lead to a nice show at least. Ah... the rewards of DMing.

    Nah i think this story is already getting too weird. I will pass this cup to the next GM.


    Poldaran wrote:
    Tandriniel wrote:

    As father of three (boys) I can tell you that no matter what, the mother is permanently retired from adventuring. If the father dumps her and the kids, he can continue to adventure, but if he is even half-decent, he is retired as well.

    Having kids is a full time job, 24/7. And we have washing machines, electricity, cars, supermarkets, etc etc.

    Their 'lets have a fun child' should be met with real consequences, and they simply have to retire to take care of their child.

    What the child is, racial wise, is interesting, but irrellevant in this context :-)

    With the money to pay for servants to take care of the children and magic to make up for the modern conveniences, I don't quite buy that the parents would necessarily have to give up adventuring. Especially in an adventure that has plenty of downtime.

    Not that they'd be getting any World's Best Mom/Dad coffee mugs, but mechanically, they should have no trouble continuing their adventure. Especially if the DM has someone kidnap the kids as a later plot hook.

    Hehe get back to me when you have your own :-). And try telling the mother of your ofspring that you will go adventuring with the boys, while she is taking care of the small ones. and film it, and put it on youtube... Instant fame :-)


    I strongly suspect I'm being trolled, but I'm bored enough to continue.

    Tandriniel wrote:
    And try telling the mother of your ofspring that you will go adventuring with the boys, while she is taking care of the small ones. and film it, and put it on youtube... Instant fame :-)

    My father did so pretty much twice a year, when he'd volunteer to fight forest fires for the federal government(for double time and hazard pay, iirc) on his vacations + personal days. He would be gone for a week or more at a time each time. My mom had no problems with it, since we really needed the money. Well, in the fairness of disclosure, she was worried sick about him each time, but she understood and supported him.

    So I definitely disagree with what you're saying there, considering "adventuring" is their job, especially in that particular AP. Not that it matters anyway, considering what the OP has already stated he's doing with the pregnancy.


    Not interested in Trolling, sorry for that. Two to four weeks a year seems manageable, you are right. Fire fighting is noble, and certainly a risk profession. cudos to your mother, she is brave and capable.

    First thing my first wife asked me when she got pregnant was that I quit my military readiness contract, never to renew it (a thing in my country where I could be sent out with 48 hours notice, as a soldier). Neither first nor second wife ever approved of anything military after that, and any business trips where frowned upon, since it left them alone with screaming babies.

    Adventuring is more or less comparable to being 'a noble mercenary'. Or less so with non-good alignment. Depending on the campaign, basically you seek out really bad guys, kill them, and rob them, or get a bounty. This might work in the time frame you mentioned, especially if the family needs the income. But full time? And as was mentioned, midlevel adventurers already have amassed massive wealth compared to a commoner, and can easily sustain a live on savings, not to mention local employment or bussines. A druid can even live of the land... So there is probably no need for the mercenary extra job.

    The things is basically: the players wanted adult content and babies. Best thing that can happen for them is to associate this with the adult responsibilities. But I am an old fart.... :-)


    Spoiler:
    Maxximilius wrote:
    Let a paladin come by and terminate the furries. All of them. It's a merciful act.

    I never thought I'd see something from that I didn't like. Next thing you know it'll be 'merciful' to stop kids from dressing up like Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse on Halloween.

    Anyway, this could be resolved simply. Werewolves are shapeshifters. Druids can shapeshift.

    Since a druid's entire body changes, as does a werewolf, they could have children as long as the forms they are in match up.

    As for the alignment issue, there have been "nature vs nurture" threads before, and I wouldn't force any of the children to be Evil. That just isn't fair to the children(or the paladin, if we look up the various "Evil Monster Baby: Evil Act to Kill It?" type threads), IMO.


    I'd make them roleplay the scene, just for shiggles.


    NobodysHome wrote:

    ADDENDUM: My tone sounds a bit too harsh here. I do think it's a really cool story line, and I think it's worth playing out. But too many PCs think that pregnancy is just a walk-in-the-park they can "music montage" their way through. I'd like to see at least one nasty plot twist happen during the pregnancy, so the PCs understand that running about and getting pregnant willy-nilly DURING AN ADVENTURE isn't the wisest course of action.

    Well actually in Kingmaker this sort of thing is entirely appropriate. There are built in long periods of downtime. My group has had 6 month and even as much as a year inbetween the 'action', where all we did was rp and kingdom build. I dont see a reason in that kind of campaign for pcs not to start a family. In fact, since they are likely the nobility of this fledgling kingdom they SHOULD start a family. And with as much as a year of downtime mixed into the campaign, you totally can 'music montage' your way through it.


    Tandriniel wrote:

    You are all mad :-)

    As father of three (boys) I can tell you that no matter what, the mother is permanently retired from adventuring. If the father dumps her and the kids, he can continue to adventure, but if he is even half-decent, he is retired as well.

    Having kids is a full time job, 24/7. And we have washing machines, electricity, cars, supermarkets, etc etc.

    Their 'lets have a fun child' should be met with real consequences, and they simply have to retire to take care of their child.

    What the child is, racial wise, is interesting, but irrellevant in this context :-)

    Actually we are talking mideval setting here. And as player characters AND the leaders of a kingdom, they are likely rather well off. They have or can have servants. They have nannys, and school teachers, masters at arms, nurses, maids, and all sort of servants to attend to the child. I would certainly not raise MY children that way, but given the resources, and the relative time period, it is entirely possible to have a child and adventure.


    Jaoh San wrote:

    Hi guys.

    Nice to see that the Thread is still going.
    We will have a little game tonight and i think i will continue the story with some haunting nightmares that the mother gets. Dark shadows clawing on her belly and her waking up with a open window and a bed full of blood. Maybe she wil think that she sadly lost the child but infact
    the Wolf Queen came to steal the child and raise it as her own (Anyone knows a spell to transfer a fetus from one womb to another?).

    Well, I know remove disease can be used to be rid of it, but I'm not sure about a transfer. Probably a custom spell that the user researched themselves (making it one of those "rare spells" that the magic chapter discusses). Possibly a low level transmutation (teleportation) spell. The spell itself may have practical uses (such as taking someone's conditions onto yourself, including parasites, which the baby would qualify for since it attaches and feeds off the host) that incidentally can also suck up said glob of lycanthropic stem-cells.

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    She sees the potential of the offspring and will raise it to the new leader of the werewolf clan, creating a nemesis for both the mother and the father.

    How tragic! :o

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    Since the werewolf queen acts from the shadows and no one except the half ork knows of her existence, she will have enough time to let the young wolf grow and become a great foe in the later game. Even if the heroes should manage to bring him back to the bright side the wolf queen herself becomes their nemesis. Lots of potential.

    Lets see how it plays out.
    Yet gain thank you all, for participating in this story!
    You were a great help and inspiration.

    Anytime. I hope your game goes well. ^-^

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    I removed a post. This thread topic is weird enough without trying to make fun of furries too.


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    Ross Byers wrote:
    I removed a post. This thread topic is weird enough without trying to make fun of furries too.

    Hahahahahaha. That's funny. Best link I've seen today.

    Furry - "No it's like the lion and the mouse!"
    Open Minded Person - "...Listen, can we pick a comparison less likely to turn you on?"
    Furry - "Sorry."

    *falls over laughing*

    Side Note: I think people pick on furries 'cause they're kind of the next tier of nerdy folks in the line of nerdy folks. There's like a chain of shame, kind of. Not that any of the nerdy stuff is actually shameful, but that it's perceived as being progressively more and more odd.

    For example. Computer RPGs->Tabletop RPGs->Larping, 'cause who hasn't seen a tabletop gamer or a dozen happily sit around a table, but give LARPers the Leper-Eye (O.o). At some point, it just seems to have crossed the event horizon.

    It has gone from nerdy to creepy somehow. Pokemon's a great example. Some people like the games, some the anime, some the manga, some draw pictures of pokemon, and then there are some that want to be pokemon, dress up like pikachu, or write slashfics about what Misty and Gyrados are doing when nobody else is looking. Sure, we're all pokemon fans, but there's certain subgroups that are seen as a bit further gone than the rest of us.

    Ultimately, I think it's a matter of perception. I think I've built up a fair tolerance to the amazement, and have gotten a pretty open minded to freaky stuff; until it's not that freaky anymore. I mean, my response to masterfully illustrated full color graphic depictions of pikachuXcharmander equates to something like "(O~^) face" but I don't think of folks who enjoy that sort of thing; because hey, I've been past the event horizon to somebody else before I'm sure. I know people who are terrified of/hate tabletop gamers, for example. :P

    So now I smile, and take a strange pride in the fact I can talk about a orcish wolf man gettin' randy with the polymorphed human, while they swap positions and change forms throughout, with a strait face. Smile, nod, and address it with respect it probably deserves. :P

    EDIT: Plus lots of us find certain things strangely intriguing. For some reason, for me, multiple arms just seem like the coolest things ever. I mean, omg, Mariliths, Sheeva, and Spinerette; oh my! ^-^


    Ashiel wrote:
    Ross Byers wrote:
    I removed a post. This thread topic is weird enough without trying to make fun of furries too.

    Hahahahahaha. That's funny. Best link I've seen today.

    Furry - "No it's like the lion and the mouse!"
    Open Minded Person - "...Listen, can we pick a comparison less likely to turn you on?"
    Furry - "Sorry."

    *falls over laughing*

    Side Note: I think people pick on furries 'cause they're kind of the next tier of nerdy folks in the line of nerdy folks. There's like a chain of shame, kind of. Not that any of the nerdy stuff is actually shameful, but that it's perceived as being progressively more and more odd.

    For example. Computer RPGs->Tabletop RPGs->Larping, 'cause who hasn't seen a tabletop gamer or a dozen happily sit around a table, but give LARPers the Leper-Eye (O.o). At some point, it just seems to have crossed the event horizon.

    It has gone from nerdy to creepy somehow. Pokemon's a great example. Some people like the games, some the anime, some the manga, some draw pictures of pokemon, and then there are some that want to be pokemon, dress up like pikachu, or write slashfics about what Misty and Gyrados are doing when nobody else is looking. Sure, we're all pokemon fans, but there's certain subgroups that are seen as a bit further gone than the rest of us.

    Ultimately, I think it's a matter of perception. I think I've built up a fair tolerance to the amazement, and have gotten a pretty open minded to freaky stuff; until it's not that freaky anymore. I mean, my response to masterfully illustrated full color graphic depictions of pikachuXcharmander equates to something like "(O~^) face" but I don't think of folks who enjoy that sort of thing; because hey, I've been past the event horizon to somebody else before I'm sure. I know people who are terrified of/hate tabletop gamers, for example. :P

    So now I smile, and take a strange pride in the fact I can talk about a orcish wolf man gettin' randy with the polymorphed...

    Fave'd again...

    Rather off topic but on the topic of Furries... EVERYONE REMEMBER WHAT I AM SAYING!

    Internet furries are not the full furry fanbase!!!!! Neither are Porn furries (though they typically go hand in hand with Internet furries). The Internet/Pr0nz/Freaky-Fetish furries are simply the most well known.

    To the 'normal' furries, I know several personally, the "freaky" furries are to them, as Big Bang Theory's Sheldon is to ordinary nerds like us.....

    Seriously, I hate that show. The general public of America these days takes SITCOM as fact, and therefore Big Bang Theory does NOT help things.... Despite having it's few (very few) funny moments.

    Edit: In summation... The Intarwebz and TV are bad places to extrapolate opinions of a fan base... Now if we can just educate the rest of the world to realize that.....


    Possible side effects of this kind of relationship

    1) being sent to the dog house is now a literal thing
    2) newborn looking like a wookie
    3) associated with furries
    4) morphing genitala, somebodies bound to get hurt
    5) a dangerous STD to pass, lycanthrope
    6) full moons are definitely when the freaky people come out... especially when the rest of the party care to listen to weird noises emanating during the night
    7) people viewing this post being scarred for life


    In my game world, very originally I might add (sarcasm), werewolves were created by the nature god to protect it.

    If it were my game, I'd start running more supernatural politics. The Druidic order and the wolf clan would both claim ownership of the child. Vampires would want to kill it. Hostile orders of werewolves that think all humans are scum or believe in pure werewolf blood would hate it.

    I'd rule that there was only a 50% chance it is a changeling, but if it came up I'd make it a true werewolf.


    Artemis Moonstar wrote:
    Fave'd again...

    *evil grin* >:3

    Quote:
    Internet furries are not the full furry fanbase!!!!! Neither are Porn furries (though they typically go hand in hand with Internet furries). The Internet/Pr0nz/Freaky-Fetish furries are simply the most well known.

    S'true. I game online with a girl who openly admits to being a "furry". She loves her cat-eared anime chicks, and thinks mice with swords being all Secret of Nhimn is like the coolest thing. :)

    Lehmo wrote:

    Possible side effects of this kind of relationship

    1) being sent to the dog house is now a literal thing
    2) newborn looking like a wookie

    Making them instantly prime candidates for chess tournaments!

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    4) morphing genitala, somebodies bound to get hurt

    Well that's what we have grease for.

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    5) a dangerous STD to pass, lycanthrope

    Strangely it only passes from biting and birth. Though it's likely they would probably have at least a little play biting going on. I know I had a girlfriend who got really, um...excited when she bit me. Wolf-herpes type-1? :P

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    6) full moons are definitely when the freaky people come out... especially when the rest of the party care to listen to weird noises emanating during the night

    Parties are freaky people. We got the God of War barbarian in the tavern with three different species of prostitutes (say human, elven, and that one gnome. Yes, that one.), the wizard and bard have snuck off to experiment with the practical uses of alter self and dominate spells, and the psion and cleric are taking turns using fusion and fission to go between bonded masturbation and 2 person orgies. The werewolf and druid obviously fit in because they won't be judged. Sadly, the druid forgot that she can't speak in wolf form and so the werewolf thinks she's kinky as hell, but it's just because she can't shout the safety word of "fried apples"!

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    7) people viewing this post being scarred for life.

    Let us be proud of our work then. XD


    Hilarious.

    It's quite simple, really. The offspring is not affected by the druid's wild shape form. There's no indication in the rules that this can be passed on at all, and no "natural druids" in that sense.

    However, there is inherited lycanthropy and there are half-orcs. I disagree with the posited notion that the offspring is human because there are "no such things as quarter orcs." The child of a human and half-elf would not be human, he would be half-elf. Therefore, the child of a half-orc and a human is a half-orc. And lycanthropy is inherited, per RAW.

    So you have a precious, bouncing, baby half-orc natural lycanthrope on your hands, even if he does look a bit more human than his ole' da'. How they accomplished the deed is irrelevant, even if a spectacularly obnoxious horror that Amazed Cat cannot "unsee."

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