All I ask for is a recording of the moment he finds out his character is dead, preferably 5 minutes either side to help set the scene and provide increased entertainment.
For the PDF I require tears. How you achieve them is not my concern...
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What a novel idea!
A guy whose avatar is obviously offspring of Shub-niggurath is "squicked-out" by the former thread title? C'mon...
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Why is the Vow of Poverty guy distributing treasure?
Have someone charm him, lol.
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Title change makes me sad. No one appreciates my dark sense of humor. I intend to get as few fellow players involved as possible. I may have my drunken lizardfolk ally be my confidant, but my character really does not trust anyone who isn't lizardfolk. I believe I have the actual murder figured out. I will just need a pickaxe and some quieting needles. I have not gotten the post murder plan fully created yet. Advice is welcome.
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See, to me having the lizardfolk ally POSING as you comes to mind. Have him wear your gear, your very recognizable hat that you JUST BOUGHT that morning, and crowed over very obviously to EVERYONE...then have the ally do something terrible and PAINFULLY obvious to it in front of everyone at the bar/tavern/whereever. So its PAINFULLY obvious "you" were NOT murdering your traveling companion.
It never ceases to amaze me what a bunch of wusses are on these forums.
Hell yeah kill the guy. You're pirates, right?
In my opinion, if a player is going to freak out because a character killed his character, then that player probably wasn't worth playing with anyway. You have to be able to separate reality from the game, and if he can't do that, then he should probably go play WOW instead.
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No, it's been decided, I will kill him. Are you saying I am a wuss? The secretive manner in which my character wishes to kill him is his way. The ease of transition into a turtleless party is key to getting what he desires. As a side note, I do hate when WOW tactics and style show up in tabletop games. I like the fact I can climb a tree. Try that in WOW.
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I like the fact I can climb a tree. Try that in WOW.
BEST. ARGUMENT. EVER!
No, it's been decided, I will kill him. Are you saying I am a wuss? The secretive manner in which my character wishes to kill him is his way. The ease of transition into a turtleless party is key to getting what he desires. As a side note, I do hate when WOW tactics and style show up in tabletop games. I like the fact I can climb a tree. Try that in WOW.
I'm saying the people in the thread telling you not to kill him are the wusses.
Now, how do you kill a turtle monk?
Clearly the answer is set an elaborate trap, with PIZZA as the bait, and tip off the Foot Clan where he'll be.
Not PF, nor even DND, but the best Player Kill I ever witnessed in a table top RPG was in Shadowrun. We had one guy who was a Mage, who didn't like another guy who was a Sam. We'd fled our car after it got hit by RPGs and was burning. The Mage implanted a suggestion into the Sam's mind that he left something very important in the glove compartment. The Sam dove back in the car to get it, and all his grenades cooked off.
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Yeah, I am only 2nd level, and I am no spellcaster. Cool story though. I am really liking the coup de grace with a pickaxe while he sleeps idea. Unless I can think of something else, or someone has a great suggestion, I think I will stick with it. As I said though, the post murder is still up in the air.
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Eh, lawful evil are only bound by the rules they agree to follow. For instance, if the captain never told people to follow his rules, and he agreed to do so, then he doesn't need to ask the captain's permission to kill another person. Also, it is a pirate ship, and it's unlikely the captain would allow the murder of another crew member, regardless of how he acted. It only sets the precedent for further members.
Pirates, in my opinion, are like the Drow of Menzoberanzen. Murdering another person, and getting away with it, is applauded. Murdering another person and getting caught? How dare you! Kill the thieving dog!
Can't you pull a 'Serpico' on him?
Let the 'bad guys' do your job for you. When its time to rush into a room full of devils or whatever... the rest of you change your mind and back-out, after he is fully entrenched.
I wouldn't kill him, but there are plenty of ways to help him die. ;)
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Usually, attacks against other player characters are kept to a minimum. Generally speaking, if this happens too often, something is wrong with the players' understanding of how the game works. However, with fairly competent players, sometimes actually playing their character's persona means that they come into diametric oposition with the party's goals or in some rare cases, in distinct conflict with another player character. During the past 30 years of playing the game, I've only slayn 1 player character (belonging to another player). This occurred because both characters were of evil alignment, and my character learned the other player was in league with an evil god and taking direct actions against my church. In this case, when the player character was weak during a battle, I took a shot at him to take him out. This was the right action to take based on my character, and fortunately, it all worked out story-wise as well. You need to be sure you have a good relationship with your GM and the other players, otherwise attacking other player characters, or killing them, is kind of a sucky move and will earn you more hostility than the integrity of the story is worth.
In short it should be:
>Rare
>Meaningful
>In sync with the story and the character personalities (not arbitrary)
>The "right thing to do", meaning all other options are exhausted
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Just to restate, these guys are "pirates" the way Jon BonJovi is a cowboy. I had to kill some real pirates after our "pirates" decided "we are on the same side" and tried to join forces, because hey, we are criminals, and they are criminals, we are on the same side, right? Also, I stated earlier my character own personal code of conduct. I thought of the character concept long before I decided which alignment best suited it.
As for alternative methods of killing, the poison option is still very viable. Remember, for each additional dose of a poison, the DC increases by 2.
Now, any poison that would actually kill the victim, is around a 100 gp a dose. Wolfsbane would be my preference, but at 500 gp a dose, it's pretty expensive. However, a lot of the poisons are based off natural plants, so you might be able to find the base plant and use that, although at a weaker effect. For instance, say you find the Wolfsbane plant, instead of a 1d3 Con at DC 16, you get 1 con at DC 12. Multiple uses of the plants would increase the DC and you could keep applying it while he's drinking, for example, after a successful raid or something.
So as he's drinking he would be getting weaker and more susceptible to the alcohol, and continue drinking. It would take 10 minutes for the poison to come into effect, but after it does, every minute he loses another 1 point. I imagine he's got a 10 - 14 Con, so it would take about a half hour for him to die.
Alternatively, if you want to throw a little realism into the game, Wolfsbane is described as "instantly lethal" if applied in a large enough dose. So maybe a large application of the raw plant would equal a normal refined poison, allowing him to die much quicker.
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talks very, very, very, slowly, and in riddles.
Did I mention the tongue thing?
I have a new favorite poster...
Alternatively, if you want to throw a little realism into the game, Wolfsbane is described as "instantly lethal" if applied in a large enough dose.
Drop a 1 ton block of Wolfsbane on him! That'll get him! Then you can declare all innocently, "Gasp! He was poisoned!"
hmmm you're on a ship, do you take shifts on watch? oooooh monks train with heavy things on their wrists and ankles, or at least you could convince him to, 20 lbs on each limb should work for strength training / swimming hindering. Course you have to throw him overboard then...
Does your DM allow you to purchase or find cursed items?
I once was going to tie up a PC (and his annoying cohort) in a portable hole, toss that in a leadlined adamantine box and then throw it into a bag of holding to lose it on the astral. I needed permanent non-detection on the box too. Granted that's expensive, but we were an epic party. Never did get to do that. :( He had it coming...
I feel your pain, a lot of groups have annoying players and we have a hard time getting rid of them.
-Tundra
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Cover it up by using things like sulfur and brimstone in minute amounts to make it look like a devil attacked. If you can, fake claw marks in his body, and use something like a fishing spear (which has a barbed end) to push into the wound after you use the pick. It will look like a creature with a barbed tail stabbed him in his sleep, and clawed his body. The scent of sulfur and brimstone will make them think of infernal powers, like a devil working for the God-Dragon.
Write out your plan on a piece of paper, give it to the GM. Have him roll things like perception vs your stealth behind the screen. Then he will need to pull Tortle aside and let him know his character was killed in his sleep and he should make up a new one. While he's rolling up a new character, he can listen in as the GM explains that Tortle never left his bunk that morning. When they investigate, they see a clawed carcass with multiple stab wounds from a barbed object and they smell sulfur and brimstone.
It might also give the player a hint. His character was constantly derailing the party from the plot, and he just so happened to be the ones the Devil's killed. Who's to say it was even the Devils working for the God-Dragon? Might have been Asmodeus himself, sort of sponsoring the party in freeing the Devils from the control of such a chaotic entity.
Are you the only one in your group that reads this forum? He could be expecting the attempt on his life by now you know.....
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Are you the only one in your group that reads this forum? He could be expecting the attempt on his life by now you know.....
He has been spending way to much time preparing for some commercial. My DM and one other player knows though. They seem way too enthusiastic about it to tell him. I am still a little taken aback by the enthusiasm.
I am still a little taken aback by the enthusiasm.
It's just good-hearted murder. And of a turtle bastard no one really likes, no less.
Can't wait to hear how this one turns out, bbt! :)
I intend to. I think I will blame the murder on one of the useless NPCs joyriding in our ship. I hate those guys.
This. ALWAYS have a scapegoat!
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Then the post murder is simple. Take something belonging to the person you intend to frame. You can either leave it clutched in the hands of the turtle dude or soak it in blood and hide it in the room of the person you are framing. Just be sure none of your stuff is discovered on the body and that you take any clothing you wore (and you should wear something to cut down on bloody scales,) is tied to a rock and tossed overboard.
The next day, you wait until the body is discovered to react. Be natural, don't say anything that would be out of place, but insist that the boat be searched for evidence. When the evidence is found on the scapegoat, insist on a quick trial and execution and kill him off quickly before anyone has the right mind to question him properly.
Does he sleep in a cabin on the boat? Does this cabin have a kind of opening / glass / window? Slip into his room during night, coup de grace him, throw the corpse out of the window (the sea will take care) than go back to sleep. The next morning, you have no freaking Idea of what happened to mr turtle. You were just sleeping.
It can be very funny to kill a character in game. My evil ranger killed twice our rogue / shadowdancer (well, it was not intentional, I was just swinging a cursed berserk sword while she was around flanking) and we had a lot of laughs (and our cleric casted a bunch of spells to repair the loss).
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Well? We're waiting...
Well? We're waiting...
+1
Picture an angry housewife with a frying pan standing in her kitchen. And yes, her foot is tapping.
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Update: There has been a delay in the scheduling of the next session. I have now discussed the topic with all players, except the player who's character I intend to murder. They have agreed they are cool with it, and to remain silent until the deed is done. I will post results as soon as the deed is done.
Update: There has been a delay in the scheduling of the next session. I have now discussed the topic with all players, except the player who's character I intend to murder. They have agreed they are cool with it, and to remain silent until the deed is done. I will post results as soon as the deed is done.
ROFL, you know your character is bad when all the other players are perfectly content with murdering you.
As I said, I took a good amount time considering the pros and cons of my actions. I also found out I wasn't the only one considering it.
LOL
cup-de-grace! cup-de-grace! cup-de-grace! cup-de-grace!
As I said, I took a good amount time considering the pros and cons of my actions. I also found out I wasn't the only one considering it.
LOL. If it is that unanimous get them to help out.
Why have they been following this clown if they want to kill him also? Make sure you are not being setup. :)