Yeah, I was thinking Egorian too o.o
Batman's starting class for me is debatable, could be straight rogue, could be a mix of fighter and rogue, or could be straight fighter, or even Paladin if that is the version you think of as his alignment seems to change depending on the writer; on another thought I did see a bard variant that had now voice component that MIGHT work (big if on this last one). What I have to insist on is the PrC. I would have to say Shadowdancer. The shadow abilities to pull the exact item or spell he needs in an instant is like his utility belt. His speed to jump from dark point to dark point confusing his enemies is the shadow jump. So I would have to say Shadowdancer.
So I think the real question here, is since we're building a PF version of Batman, What city in Golarion would serve as Gotham?Egorian?
Good choice (given the architectural styles described for that city)... or perhaps Caliphas or Absalom - they both have Gothamy elements.
@The Speaker in Dreams: it hasn't been like that in a very long time, the Batman you see in comics today can absolutely destroy those guys you mentioned in hand to hand. No nerve strikes, no fancy moves, no tools, just raw punch. The only guys that can kick Batman around like that are metahumans or augmenting themselves in one way or another.
With one exception: his adopted daughter can beat him like a drum, but she was raised to be the greatest fighter on Earth. Suffice to say, in all of comics she has 2 equals/superiors:Karate Kid (Val Amorr) who has a thousand years of martial arts advancement to back him up, and Captain America who, while he is augmented, doesn't need those augmentations to be awesome in general, much less martial arts. Karate Kid just knows more, they are probably equals physically. Captain America pretty much only wins because he never gets tired.
Typically when Batman is shown as you are describing him, he is very young, usually just starting up. Which that only comes up in the cartoons and movies.
Not really.
*Maybe* if you are going only by, say JLA appearances he makes (ie: bat-god that I've noticed you state you don't like).
My main cite was the No Man's Land story with that generic "big tough guy" and that's not a young or inexperienced Batman at all. It's Batman as he really is.
Honestly, since you mention Captain America, the best example of the differences of those two would be the movie Soldier starring Kurt Russel. His character is a guy that is trained essentially from birth to just be a kick-ass combat master. Consider this guy Batman - he's 100% normal and was trained obsessively for his entire life. In that movie, the next generation of "soldiers" comes by taking the project 1 step further - they genetically engineered the participants. These guys were human genetics taken to the highest potential. They were FAR stronger, and FAR faster, and FAR tougher, etc on all levels to the 1st generation soldiers.
In essence, the Kurt Russel is the fanatic Batman - "normal" person training excessively and doing things that most other "normal" people can't really dream of, but still each one limited by his own genetic make-up. Some were smaller, some larger, etc.
The genetically engineered guys are Captain America's - that's essentially what the SSS was - liquid genetic engineering in a bottle. Comparing Cap's performances over the years, he's never really having the same Batman problem of being stopped by a "big tough guy" in his comics and appearances. In fact, many times the "big tough guy" steps up and other lesser enemies will back away as the big one challenges Cap - who then walks right through the guy. No trading of blows or anything like that because Cap actually *is* WAY stronger than the strongest strong man (in fact, Cap's at the limits of human strength potential as determined by genetic engineering via the SSS). Cap, having superior attributes than pretty much all but genuinely enhanced/superhuman opponents, just packs more punch than his opposition can deal with. This isn't true of Batman who remains very much a "man" in his own comics - recent, or otherwise (exception *maybe* with Morrison's Bat-god, but who is still just a "man" and doesn't really compete physically with the other 'gods' or things on their level).
I wasn't thinking of any movies in my Batman assessments. More like "Tales of the Dark Knight" and things like that - certainly NOT from a "young" Batman at all. The stories I've read are from Batman in his prime.
Batman *does* take apart the bigger guys, but it's not because he's more powerful than they are. It's because he, literally, takes them apart, piece by piece since he lacks the raw power to drop them outright.
:shrugs:
Either way, as most have said, statting him out is hard as hell in PF terms. M&M can do it, but it does it outside of the level-system entirely. Class and level-based? Really, REALLY hard to pin him down.
I don't know ... to hit supers properly? We'd *at least* be looking at gestalt classing just to try it.
I'm not a fan of him being "magic" powered in the least, though, lots of gadgets, so the haversack with LOTS of 1-off items stuffed inside sounds about perfect, really. Fighter/Rogue gestalt for me. That's because I just can't see anything that would justify "magic" up and running for Batman. I can see him as "dirty fighting" and using SA to hit the HELL out of anyone that can't keep up w/him in combat, and then Fighter's Weapon Training on Unarmed/Fists and Batarangs/thrown weapons as his 1st and 2nd choices to add additional emphasis.
Within the "magic-mart" equipment paradigm? His str should be pretty high with all the standard array of "junk" to buy ... but that's more D20-ism than true to the character. On his own? Maybe a 20 or so tops.
I said there's no normal person in the DC Universe who matches Batman's social presense. Superman is a Mary Sue - the guy has moved planets.
Totally agree. If it was missed, then that was part of what I implied by saying that "all hope is lost" with him. No smilies on the board to emphasize it, but consider that a tongue in cheek smiley, or a [sarcasm] tag wrapped around it. When DC wants to pull the uber-cheese/Mary Sue/whatever it's always Superman in some sort of "If he can't do it ... we're done for!! Woe is us!!!"
I'm surprised they didn't, somehow, manage to get Superman to hi-jack the Blackest Night storyline.
Batman has inspired three different Robins and three different Batgirls and a Batwoman and has turned Catwoman into, at least, partially a hero and the list goes on. Let's not forget that one of the Robins ended up dead and one of the Batgirls ended up permanently paralyzed and, despite this, he still is responsible for inspiring the creation of a large number of the DC Universe's heroes.
Now you're mixing editors and legacy with "inspirational effects of Charisma" though.
No disagreement on any of that, however, a LOT of that is editorial drive in DC saying, "hey - let's expand the bat-family and make more $ to tell stories about these characters." It's a bit disingenuous to characterize it like he's, personally, inspirational or something.
If anything, that characterization would play well with The Brave and the Bold cartoon portrayal, where Batman IS the DCU ... which is crazy. Aquaman is not some sort of egomaniac or sycophant hanging on Batman's every move, nor are the rest of the DCU behaving like that in any medium BUT that specific cartoon. A better cartoon that portrays a closer impact of how he impacts others would be like the Justice League cartoons - he's clearly intimidating and what have you, but he's just not "front man" material to the group, and especially to the other heroes. That role is Superman's.
In the (can't remember - maybe the 52? Or the Infinite Crisis? Identity Crisis?) story line [specifics are escaping me at the moment] it was sort of roundly established that within the DCU Nightwing was the greatest natural leader that the hero community as a whole would gravitate towards and rally behind. I thought that was pretty interesting, and certainly the case to use in stating that Nightwing may actually have a higher Charisma, or be a better leader with more respect (because he is, and he was given more respect and trust - something Batman doesn't inspire from other heroes - he creeps them out and they don't really trust him).
None of that, though, is to say that Batman is NOT influential - just an observation that within the DCU itself, he's not actually in that top-notch a position to be considered the best ever. Kind of like the strength comments, he's strong, but not the strongest ever. I think he's charismatic, but not the most charismatic ever. He's up there in on the short list, but, IMO, given those story lines, I think Nightwing is more deserving of that position than Batman, and the stories really back that all up - Nightwing's mates believe and follow him willingly. Batman has to scare people, and some will outright defy him because they DO NOT trust him. It's not like 1-off's either, mind you, those character traits become central plot points and sources of inter-team conflicts.
Name a hero who is a normal guy who was inspired by Nightwing to become a super. I can't think of any. But Batman has inspired such normal guys repeatedly.
Again - DC editorial choices and within the DCU's actual hero community effects are completely different organisms. The one is profit driven, and the other character and story driven.
It's not even a reasonable measuring stick to use.
Batman is one of the top three core heroes (alongside Superman and Wonder Woman) of the DC Universe. Villains aren't scared of the boy scout, but they are terrified of the Bat. The Bat has beat Supes in a fight on several occasions and its not true that, if Supes dies, all hope is lost. The world has actually survived without Supes already on at least two occassions that come immediately to mind.
Again - wrapped up in sass/untranslated sarcasm, so we're in agreement here.
I would doubt the "several occasions" thing, but the rest is fine. When Superman is in "Mary-Sue" mode, the world *does* in fact lose all hope (and that was the point of those stories where it comes out).
I'm glad they're starting to go away from "only Supes!!" in the story telling paradigm because it was wearing FAR too thin for my tastes. There are a LOT of heroes in DC, and they all deserve to shine, not just be eclipsed by Big Blue all the time.
Batman's starting class for me is debatable, could be straight rogue, could be a mix of fighter and rogue, or could be straight fighter, or even Paladin if that is the version you think of as his alignment seems to change depending on the writer; on another thought I did see a bard variant that had now voice component that MIGHT work (big if on this last one). What I have to insist on is the PrC. I would have to say Shadowdancer. The shadow abilities to pull the exact item or spell he needs in an instant is like his utility belt. His speed to jump from dark point to dark point confusing his enemies is the shadow jump. So I would have to say Shadowdancer.
Ok, now for this PrC ONLY, you just made me break my thought that NO magic would fit his concept ... damn you!!!
:-D
Hmm ... maybe not. Can 1-off magic items pull off some similar effects? If so, then I'll still cling to Rogue/Fighter.
@The Speaker in Dreams:He's pretty bad in his comics as well, especially with how much people like to talk him up, and how he can only do wrong in some of the most incredibly stupid, and/or pointless, ways. Let's go back to No Man's Land shall we? In Shadow of the Bat #85 (book 12 of No Man's Land), Batman fights a huge dude, takes him out in a single strike, this guy is basically the size of The Big Show (the professional wrestler) and he's a Green Beret. Then Batman fights a bunch of Penguin's goons... and he doesn't just win, he's not even tired at the end of it.
M&M has a terrible damage system, you would be better off using hero system, where you can buy ridiculous amounts of skills on the cheap, you just need to use the power frameworks (which is technically something you shouldn't do, the rules state that skills can, but shouldn't, be put in a framework) if you don't want him to be 2,000+ points.
There's a huge problem with your analogy: Cap has fought Batman, Cap was going to win that fight, Batman himself admitted it,however it would have taken Cap a long time, they both knew they had bigger fish to fry, and a limited time table with which to accomplish it.
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@The Speaker in Dreams:He's pretty bad in his comics as well, especially with how much people like to talk him up, and how he can only do wrong in some of the most incredibly stupid, and/or pointless, ways. Let's go back to No Man's Land shall we? In Shadow of the Bat #85 (book 12 of No Man's Land), Batman fights a huge dude, takes him out in a single strike, this guy is basically the size of The Big Show (the professional wrestler) and he's a Green Beret. Then Batman fights a bunch of Penguin's goons... and he doesn't just win, he's not even tired at the end of it.
M&M has a terrible damage system, you would be better off using hero system, where you can buy ridiculous amounts of skills on the cheap, you just need to use the power frameworks (which is technically something you shouldn't do, the rules state that skills can, but shouldn't, be put in a framework) if you don't want him to be 2,000+ points.
There's a huge problem with your analogy: Cap has fought Batman, Cap was going to win that fight, Batman himself admitted it,however it would have taken Cap a long time, they both knew they had bigger fish to fry, and a limited time table with which to accomplish it.
Having played a lot of M&M, your assertion of "M&M has a ridiculous damage system" is a paasable attempt at fighting words. I have used them many times and they have always proven fun and functional.
Please remember: "I don't like M&M's damage system" is different from "M&M's damage system is ridiculous."
Having played Batman in M&M I will say I *felt like Batman*.
That said, in Pathfinder Batman is a Ninja.
@The Speaker in Dreams:He's pretty bad in his comics as well, especially with how much people like to talk him up, and how he can only do wrong in some of the most incredibly stupid, and/or pointless, ways. Let's go back to No Man's Land shall we? In Shadow of the Bat #85 (book 12 of No Man's Land), Batman fights a huge dude, takes him out in a single strike, this guy is basically the size of The Big Show (the professional wrestler) and he's a Green Beret. Then Batman fights a bunch of Penguin's goons... and he doesn't just win, he's not even tired at the end of it.
M&M has a terrible damage system, you would be better off using hero system, where you can buy ridiculous amounts of skills on the cheap, you just need to use the power frameworks (which is technically something you shouldn't do, the rules state that skills can, but shouldn't, be put in a framework) if you don't want him to be 2,000+ points.
There's a huge problem with your analogy: Cap has fought Batman, Cap was going to win that fight, Batman himself admitted it,however it would have taken Cap a long time, they both knew they had bigger fish to fry, and a limited time table with which to accomplish it.
Having played a lot of M&M, your assertion of "M&M has a ridiculous damage system" is a paasable attempt at fighting words. I have used them many times and they have always proven fun and functional.
Please remember: "I don't like M&M's damage system" is different from "M&M's damage system is ridiculous."
Having played Batman in M&M I will say I *felt like Batman*.
That said, in Pathfinder Batman is a Ninja.
What? The system is objectively flawed, 5% of the time your character folds, doesn't matter how tough you are, if the attack is capable of hurting you, even a minor papercut, will knock your character out. M&M is the only system in which it works like that for -every- type of damage. That's a pretty bad system. Also, the only thing I called ridiculous, was the point break when using power frameworks.
I disagree, Batman can be incredibly dumb sometimes, Lex is only good with technology, his plans stink, his policies on everything else are worse, and Martian Manhunter is smarter than all of them combined, he just doesn't play with technology.There are normal humans smarter than he is too. But I don't know of any normal human who has more social presence than he does.
His highest stat is definitely Int...there are normal humans stronger then he isNo true.
In the DCU, the only person smarter then Batman is Lex Luthor. Mr. Terrific comes in at #3, and the Joker is in the top ten as well.
There are normal people more specialized in specific subjects then Batman...but there's only one who is actually smarter.
I agree on social presence. It's just he's generally more intimidating then he is charming. He's still able to get the leader of the Teen Titans and the whole Justice League to do whatever he wants, better then anyone. His influence over heroes in the DCU is indeed broader then just about anyone else.
==Aelryinth
You're disagreeing with DCU Canon, not my opinion. Batman is smarter then Manhunter...but Manhunter comes from a culture with more advanced technology. DOn't confuse the two.
And don't confuse Lex Luthor's lack of wisdom with his int. He figured out an alien race using a base 13 numeric system, new language and symbols, in his head. In less then a day. By canon, he's the smartest human in the DCU, and that's a fact, not an opinion. The fact he's constantly overwhelmed by his ego, arrogance, and impatience is a different subject.
==Aelryinth
Captain America is a Super Soldier, sure enough. He's to military and soldiers what Tony Stark is to technology...the absolute master and genius thereof. He's THE best open hand combat expert in the Marvel Universe, and that's canon...there isn't anyone better. he has military science down cold, and he's the acknowledged as an awesome soldier and leader by races in OTHER GALAXIES, he's so damn good.
So, yes, he'd beat Batman, maybe not easily. Batman IS smarter in more areas, but not in personal combat. Could Batman figure out a way to take him down? Sure enough...but not on the spur of the moment. He's dealing with his superior in both skill and physical ability.
==Aelryinth
You're disagreeing with DCU Canon, not my opinion. Batman is smarter then Manhunter...but Manhunter comes from a culture with more advanced technology. DOn't confuse the two.
And don't confuse Lex Luthor's lack of wisdom with his int. He figured out an alien race using a base 13 numeric system, new language and symbols, in his head. In less then a day. By canon, he's the smartest human in the DCU, and that's a fact, not an opinion. The fact he's constantly overwhelmed by his ego, arrogance, and impatience is a different subject.
==Aelryinth
I'm disagreeing with what everyone, including the characters, say, because what is shown is incredibly contrary to what is said.
If Lex was so smart then he would realize that fighting a guy like Superman isn't just foolish, it's stupid. One day Superman is going to be fed up with Lex's garbage and Superman is going to kill Lex with a rock, from orbit.
If Batman was so smart then he would realize that he's actually incredibly inept at fighting bad guys. He would do as I said earlier, create a surveillance network that would track his villains, so they couldn't actually commit crimes. He also wouldn't put those villains in an insane asylum that's built on a ley line. You ever wonder why no one gets better in Arkham Asylum, why they only get worse? To make things worse, it was built by a madman (who was later one of it's patients) so by all odds, it's designed to make it's occupants crazier as time goes on.
Lex also realizes that Superman won't just kill him, because he has a code of honor. Thus your scenario doesn't apply, and he has plenty of time to find a way for a normal human to beat the alien god who is denigrating humanity by his very existence.
Likewise, Batman doesn't kill. Since he doesn't kill, incarceration of his enemies is what has to happen, and Arkham is the best choice of a bad lot for obviously insane foes. Should his enemies be terminated? In our world, yes. The government would definitely reinstate the death penalty and they'd all be killed. Rabid dogs and all.
As for surveillance, now you're dealing with privacy issues and the possibility of blackmail, which was touched on in the first Dark Knight film. Doing so would effectively make him 'Big Brother', and he doesn't want to be that. What if someone co-opted his network? think of the ramifications of that, and some of his enemies. It'd be the first thing I would do, and the Joker is MUCH smarter then I am. The implications would be horrifying.
I imagine he spends a ton of time making sure his enemies are NOT doing this back to him!
==Aelryinth
It still applies because he knows he's messing with Superman, you can only push someone so far before they break, when will Superman break?
Not killing some of his bad guys is stupid, all it does is let them kill again and again. More to the point Arkham is the worst possible choice, you could put them anywhere else, and they would be better off. Arkham Asylum isn't the only institution of it's ilk in all of the DC Earth, there are much better places, with far better records, and far better security.
Batman created a plan to defeat the entire Justice League, I think privacy is a non-issue at that point, especially since several of the methods were potentially lethal, and it's not like he will be putting the surveillance equipment anywhere besides previously-abandoned buildings/amusement parks, because that's where most of Batman's bad guys tend to hide.
Most of his enemies are too insane to actually try countering him in a reasonable way. Joker wants the game to keep going. Two-Face is entirely dependent on the decision of his coin. Penguin just wants to be Lex Luthor. Clayface wants to be normal. Mr. Freeze wants his wife back, but before that he just wanted money, the wife shenanigans was an invention of Batman TAS. The Ventriloquist thinks he's a mob boss. Mr. Zsasz simply likes killing people. So on and so forth, the only one who would think about doing it, is also the only one who could succeed, and Ra's Al Ghul actually likes his duels with Batman, so he won't.
If you have fantasy settings, Batman is going to be a bit different. Ninja/Wizard with high stats, a robe of useful items? =)
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Hmm...This thread is making me wonder how one would stat up some of the Batman villains in PF
Hmm...This thread is making me wonder how one would stat up some of the Batman villains in PF
Let's start with the Leadership feat and then build from there.
There's a huge problem with your analogy: Cap has fought Batman, Cap was going to win that fight, Batman himself admitted it,however it would have taken Cap a long time, they both knew they had bigger fish to fry, and a limited time table with which to accomplish it.
You're talking Avengers/JLA, right?
That scene was all about acknowledging that each one is the BEST at what they do.
Cap? Batman took the few test shots and figured it out: he's stronger, faster, and can fight *at least* as well as me - this guy will take me out.
However, does Batman give up when out-classed? No. So what did he do? He changed the nature of the game on him.
He bluffs his way past Cap into making him *think* it will be a long, hard fight (which is probably wouldn't last long, honestly - more on that in a second). He then follows up with, "The question is, do you want to?"
He changed the nature of the game - he went from a scenario where he WILL lose (ie: combat with Cap) into one where HE set the terms (a temporary alliance to find the puppet master of the scenario).
To me, there's no way that Batman is going to take Cap in a straight fight, so the analogy is actually perfect. Cap = Genetically Engineered expert with years and years of experience vs. Bats = normal guy that trains hard and has lots of experience himself.
The genetically engineered guy is *always* going to take down the non-genetically engineered one every time here because there's no real edge of experience or skills to be given to the underdog.
That said, in Pathfinder Batman is a Ninja.
Ooo! Good call. Change me to Fighter/Ninja gestalt then.
;-)
NOTE: on the M&M's Damage Save system is actually a damn fine fit for comics. How else do you explain that in one comic Wolverine gets a whammy bop on the top of his noggin' from Thing and is KO'd, and then in other's he's getting b~$$$-slapped by the Hulk halfway across a state park and he's up and running w/out losing consciousness? I think, in COMICS, that 5% chance to just drop is actually fitting to the tropes of the genre.
YMMV, clearly, but comics don't work like some sort of absolute system of measures - just read 'em and consider the crazy inconsistencies all over them.
It's a good system for mimicking genre conventions.
@The Speaker in Dreams:I really wouldn't call it a bluff, considering Cap already knew that there was more going on, heck he had even set some wheels in motion when all of that stuff began, which annoyed the crap out of Batman, because Ben Grimm teleported into the Batcave.
The scenario you had created before had multiple rookie Captain Americas, well I've also got bad news for that as well: In the latest Cap movie, he attacks a German base, that is holding Bucky and about 400 other soldiers, and he's basically unstoppable.
Even his fight with Red Skull looks to be in his favor, despite the fact that they are ostensibly the same, only Red Skull has years of killing and fighting people under his belt, whereas Cap has punched out fake!Hitler over 200 times. I think Batman could have all the experience in the world and he would still have to avoid the fight against 1 Captain America, much less a pack of them like in Soldier.
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Well since Pathfinder is a fantasy oriented RPG, what you can effectively do, is to create a Batman wannabe.
I'm quite fond of the new approach to Batman as seen in the last two movies so my suggestion goes like this:
"Thug/Bandit archetype Rogue"
He had to become a criminal in order to understand criminals and those two variants are definitely the type of criminal he had become in the beginning, a Bouncer.
"Infiltrator archetype Inquisitor"
Since Ninja is a Rogue variant, the closest class that could interpret Bruce Wayne while in training from Rasz' Al' Ghul(*) is the Inquisitor.
He gets enough tricks in order to infiltrate into targets of the organization, also choose a trickery domain and you are almost complete.
"Shadow Dancer"
Batman at his beginnings as the Dark Knight, takes the theatrics to another level literally using fear and the cover of the night, the Shadow Dancer is the closest prestige class that qualifies for that plus it gives him access to the uncanny dodge that he lost from the Rogue archetypes.
At 10th level I'd go with:
Skirmisher Urban Ranger 5/Unarmed Fighter 5
Fighter 5 then Ranger 5 for simplicity (Assuming all 18's)
Fighter 1-Improved Unarmed Strike, Dragon Style, Weapon Focus(Shuriken), Death From Above
Fighter 2-Enforcer/ Harsh Training +1
Fighter 3-Dodge/ Tough Guy
Fighter 4-Close Quarters Thrower
Fighter 5-Defensive Weapon Training (Monk)/ Weapon Training (Monk & Natural) +1
Ranger 1-Favored Enemy Humanoid (Humans) +2, Track, Wild Empathy
Ranger 2-Power Attack, Point-Blank Shot
Ranger 3-Favored Community (Gotham) +2, Trapfinding
Ranger 4-Defensive Weapon Training (Firearms), Hunter's Bond (Companions)
Ranger 5-Favored Enemy Humanoid (Humans) +4, Monstrous Humanoids +2, Hunter's Trick(Chameleon Step)
I don't know what Traits, but probably Rich Parents and one that added a knowledge as a class skill. Max skill ranks in Stealth, Perception, Climb, Acrobaics, Survival, Intimidate and Knowledge(local) and Sense Motive.
He is good at both Hand-to-Hand and Batarangs, gathering info, tracking, stealth, and even has the feat for when he crashes through the ceiling at bad guys and dodging bullets. His detective work comes from his info and solid planning.
6 rogue / 3+ horizon walker
rogue talents: terrain mastery all the way, starting with Gotham City
terrain dominance: Urban (as most people he fights live in a city, village or whatever)
I'll give the exact feats and archetypes once you've figured out the alignment.
I'm for lawful good, because if you are a billionaire would a CN person really go out and risk his life? He sometimes changes alignment tough, he's no paladin, so no problem.
You guys have to consider the amount of plot protection Batman gets.
I don't know how you put something like that in a game, Batman is the way he is because that is written that way.
Modelling him in a game is kind of wonky.
Write up Batman. Have him played by one player. Give Brainiac to another player and tell them to fight.
Care to wager on who wins? Without the DM stepping in?
Batman isn't a real guy. He's not even a real imaginary guy. The same pretty much goes for any "badass normal."
Batman is a DM NPC, not a player character.
I disagree, some of Batman's teammates are PCs. Red Robin and Black Bat are definitely PCs, it's just that they are built in Hero System, where advances are small.
Let's assume Batman is a PC.
Then the logical answer is Archaeologist bard, with the spells reflavored as devices.
How about Ftr 3 with 5,000,000,000 gp of equipment? (As played in the movies)
The one in the movie? Sure. The one in the comics? Not so much. I suspect he probably has a level of Ranger as well.
Oh, definitely ranger with no spellcasting, hunter's tricks, and Robin as an animal companion (a robin is a bird, right?)... and a Handy Haversack. How to do the bat computer, I'm not so sure. Batman may have high Int, but it seems the bat computer does most of the tough thinking for him, so I might not even see an 18 as necessary.
Ninja, with choking bomb, smoke bomb, blinding bomb
Not being a comic nor Bat Man afficionado, I don't catch every batman movie release, so I must be really behind... but when has batman ever thrown a bomb? IME, never.
Personally, I like my Batman like the dieties: Statless. From what I can tell, give something stats, and people will try and kill it (see Tarrasque.)
Of course, if you actually get to use the "stats" for Batman in Pathfinder, that'll be something.