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I have a Paladin who uses a steel shield, and with the EWP feat, a Bastard Sword.
I happen to like this combination because it gives my character the flexibility to use a sword and shield, or if he wants to lay into a monster for a little extra damage, he can easily use his bastard sword with a "two handed" grip.
If my character had a long sword, could he do this? From what i understand a long sword is designed to be wielded 1 handed.
How about a scimitar?
How about a mace?
a Morning star?
A flail?
Can a single handed weapon be swung with two hands on the "hilt" for the extra damage, even though it is designed as a one handed weapon? are there any penalties for using the weapon this way, Is there say a -2 to attack or something like that?
Thanks
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One-Handed: A one-handed weapon can be used in either the primary hand or the off hand. Add the wielder's Strength bonus to damage rolls for melee attacks with a one-handed weapon if it's used in the primary hand, or 1/2 his Strength bonus if it's used in the off hand. If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls.
You can wield nearly all one-handed weapons with two hands without penalty. If it's not possible, it's noted in the weapon's description like it was done with the rapier:
Rapier: You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a rapier sized for you, even though it isn't a light weapon. You can't wield a rapier in two hands in order to apply 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus to damage.
One handed weapons can be, light weapons cannot.
I have a Paladin who uses a steel shield, and with the EWP feat, a Bastard Sword.
I happen to like this combination because it gives my character the flexibility to use a sword and shield, or if he wants to lay into a monster for a little extra damage, he can easily use his bastard sword with a "two handed" grip.
If my character had a long sword, could he do this? From what i understand a long sword is designed to be wielded 1 handed.
How about a scimitar?
How about a mace?
a Morning star?
A flail?
Can a single handed weapon be swung with two hands on the "hilt" for the extra damage, even though it is designed as a one handed weapon? are there any penalties for using the weapon this way, Is there say a -2 to attack or something like that?
Thanks
This is permitted by the rules. There's even some benefit to doing so.
"If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls."
There is no penalty for using one-handed weapon with two hands other than having both hands occupied (i.e. no second weapon, no shield, no item held ready for use, no holding the charge of touch spell and so on). There are some classes (and possibly feats, there were in 3.5 somewhere but I don't if any of them was revisited for Pathfinder) that gain certain benefits from using one-handed weapons in one hand and lose those benefits when wielded with two hands (Magus which can cast spell and attack if wields one-handed weapon, I think that some duelist archetypes as well).
One-handed weapon wielded with two hands gains one and one-half Strength bonus, rounded down, as two-handed weapon and can benefit from increased damage bonus of Power Attack. Effectively you sacrifice attack with off-hand weapon or shield bonus for increased damage.
As long as the paladin drops his shield, you're fine. He needs the second hand free to use it with the weapon. You can't just switch back and forth. He'd have to pick up the shield off the ground whenever he wants to use it.
The exception to that being using a buckler, but there there's a small penalty to attacks while using the arm it's on.
I think it depends on the GM...Personally i allow to do this and the players get bonuses doing it. Or if a bad GM then they get negative modifiers....rofl
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I'm kind of surprised too. While I would leave it up to the DM to tell me that when I told them I was planning on using a Longsword and sometimes two-handing it, that does fit solidly into the realm of houserules.
One-Handed: A one-handed weapon can be used in either the primary hand or the off hand. Add the wielder’s Strength bonus to damage rolls for melee attacks with a one-handed weapon if it’s used in the primary hand, or 1/2 his Strength bonus if it’s used in the off hand. If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character’s Strength bonus to damage rolls.
If there's a specific weapon that can't be used in this manner, it's called out. (Such as the rapier)
'Not enough handle' is a circumstance.
Geez, can't believe I'm on THIS side of the Rule Zero argument for once...
DOn't worry. I'm still a fan.
'Not enough handle' is a circumstance.
Geez, can't believe I'm on THIS side of the Rule Zero argument for once...
Just playing Devil's Advocate my man we still have nothing but love for ya.
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While I also have the utmost respect for TriOmegaZero, we are in the rules forum. Granted, I do agree with the houserule that some have stated of making the falcata one-handed only.
Considering that a falcata has a "wrap-around" hilt which is made to fit one hand, it's really the way it should have been in the first place.
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Longsword fighting techniques -- Sparks will fly!
(Longswords are designed for use in one or two hands -- they have a long hilt for that explicit purpose. They are labeled a one-handed weapon because they can be used in one hand, not because they should be. Similarly, samurai virtually fought with a katana in one hand, yet they are labeled one-handed weapons.)
One-Handed: A one-handed weapon can be used in either the primary hand or the off hand. Add the wielder's Strength bonus to damage rolls for melee attacks with a one-handed weapon if it's used in the primary hand, or 1/2 his Strength bonus if it's used in the off hand. If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls.You can wield nearly all one-handed weapons with two hands without penalty. If it's not possible, it's noted in the weapon's description like it was done with the rapier:
Rapier: You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a rapier sized for you, even though it isn't a light weapon. You can't wield a rapier in two hands in order to apply 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus to damage.
A long-sword in real life is both a one handed and two handed weapon. using this, i would like Paizo to reintroduce the hand and a half weapons. it makes some weapons more versatile and realistic. On a similar topic, a great-sword in real life is 99% as tall as you pommel to tip.
Eight year necro why?
Welcome to the forums. Around here it is generally considered bad form to reopen a dead conversation.
This answers this question for me, as well. Thanks to all who offered their insights and input.
i would like Paizo to reintroduce the hand and a half weapons.
What do you mean by this?
As this thread has discussed, any of the 1-handed weapons can be wielded 1-handed or 2-handed, and get all the bonuses associated with the style they're used with (with some exceptions, looking at you rapier). Would they not count as "hand and a half" weapons?
Isn't he questioning the exotic proficiency for the extra damage specific weapon, to be used one handed?
>~<. Hope that makes sense, I just can't say it more clearly right now.
Isn't he questioning the exotic proficiency for the extra damage specific weapon, to be used one handed?
>~<. Hope that makes sense, I just can't say it more clearly right now.
You mean more weapons should work like the bastard sword? (martial if used 2-handed, but can be used 1-handed with exotic proficiency)
I think there are a couple of others, but since the Bastard Sword is only ~+1 damage compared to the Longsword I think most people don't care enough.
Perhaps you could subsume the whole exotic weapon ruleset as part of the unwieldy weapon use. Isn't using a weapon balanced for two handed use one handedly fundementally the same as improvised weaponry?
Kahny it got more complicated as time went on, two handed use has other advantages now.
Mostly with all the exotic weapons there is concern you are getting something for nothing. Instead working out how, for example, a trip weapon might require a skill with tripping to be used effectively in that way they rather cheaped out and voila you have exotic weapon proficiencies.