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I for one welcome an AP to varissa, i don't really like the idea of neither the Tian Xia AP nor the pirate themed one.


captain yesterday wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Justin Franklin wrote:
I the reaction to the snippets of superscience stuff they do is mostly positive then I think you will see that Numeria AP.
I think we all know what we have to do: Find out who speaks out against it and send terminators to kill their parents.

i am not a fan of robots and aliens in my fantasy.

i didn't buy dungeons of golarion because of the robots, and find the alien technology in "wake of the watcher" barely tolerable (curse you greg a. vaughn for being such a great adventure writer!(not really:). i prefer numeria and alkenstar as vague as possible.

We shall contact the mi-go and inform them of your particular opinion. We are sure they will be quite enthusiastic about harvesting your brain to find the reasons for these aversions.


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

I like Varisia and we haven't had an AP set there since 3.5. Every AP might be someone's first and Varisia really is THE iconic location of the Pathfinder Campaign Setting.

While it might be a good idea to keep away from Varisia for a couple of years after Shattered Star coming back to it for newer players is a good thing. A rest I can agree with. But a permanent rest? When we still don't have a Kaer Maga megadungeon AP? I don't think so. :-D

Jade Regent starts there and spends about 1 1/2 books (or 1/4 of its length) there. So it's a Varisian AP, given than the PCs all must have very strong ties there.

And I hear you about the Kaer Maga medgadungeon, though I hope they go with the Osirion pyramid one...


@Gregg Helmberger: The Falcon's Hollow series of modules makes up a kinda-sorta-AP in Andoran. And "Entombed with the Pharaohs" and its sequel "The Pact Stone Pyramid" are very well-regarded to do a campaign in Orision. I know they're not APs, but I didn't know if you were aware of the modules set in those locations


I'm a fan of Varisia, and an even bigger fan of Thassilon . . . This AP is something I'm truly looking forward to. I know all the players I've got playing the RotRL campaign currently will also be psyched about this continuation on the theme. The more you want to give me on the Thassilonian Empire (and especially Rune Magic!) the better! =D

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KaeYoss wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:

Damnit, While i like the idea of another AP set in Varisia, that finishes off most of the plot threads there and explores more territory, my players are going to cry "Why no Numeria AP?? I want to laser guns, and get addicted to Alien Juice! ALIEN JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Sigh.

The real pity is that the title (The Shattered Star) would have worked great for a Numeria centered AP. :(
...ship

That is only one possiblity.


The Shattered Star can be related to the Starstone? :D

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guille f wrote:
The Shattered Star can be related to the Starstone? :D

That would be another great idea to go off this title, but might be a little "high level" for the average AP.

Further, I do not forsee them setting an AP in Absolom, mostly because that is the "home base" of the Pathinder Society (Organized Play).

Liberty's Edge

I think AP11 is a good time for a sequel to RotR but do agree that after that Varisia needs a break.

AP 12 Mendev/Demons
AP 13 Dragons
AP 14 Vikings/Arcadia
AP 15 Nobility/Politics
AP 16 Galt

I'm calling that.


Zaranorth wrote:
Well I'm screwed.

Ugh did I call it. I'd barely gotten the name out when the entire room had an epileptic fit they were laughing so hard. I thought my wife was going to pass out from being unable to breathe.

Anyways, I'm not surprised about the AP. Paizo's main goal is balance, trying to get something out for everyone. There's been a good run of "different" APs and Jade Regent and Skulls and Shackles definitively continue that trend. The Shattered Star's synopsis suggests a visit to a classic style of campaign that a number of people probably want. At least that's the impression I get.

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Coridan wrote:

I think AP11 is a good time for a sequel to RotR but do agree that after that Varisia needs a break.

AP 12 Mendev/Demons
AP 13 Dragons
AP 14 Vikings/Arcadia
AP 15 Nobility/Politics
AP 16 Galt

I'm calling that.

I think Galt=Nobility/Politics so that means you now have an AP free. Which is good because right after Mendev should come our Kaer Maga Mega-Dungeon, followed closely by a Casmaron based AP where we actually get to explore that side of the world.

Dark Archive

Coridan wrote:

I think AP11 is a good time for a sequel to RotR but do agree that after that Varisia needs a break.

AP 12 Mendev/Demons
AP 13 Dragons
AP 14 Vikings/Arcadia
AP 15 Nobility/Politics
AP 16 Galt

I'm calling that.

I am fascinated by the concept of Galt, a sort of permanent medieval American/French Revolution gone insane. I actually picture Paul Revere with a crossbow when I think of Galt.

Yes, please.


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Gregg Helmberger wrote:
Jebus, another Varisian AP? Is there no other region of the Inner Sea area worthy of an AP? Is there no good idea for a Taldan AP? An Andoren AP? A Five Kings Mountain AP? A...well, you get the picture. Yeah, yeah, I get that there are still interesting stories to tell in Varisia and writing those doesn't mean they won't do other APs elsewhere at a later time, but by God I'm sick to my guts of Varisia. How about giving it a permanent rest after the latest "SS" AP, huh?

I'm on the other side of the fence, I find another AP set in Varisia to be totally what I wanted. While I understand the desire to visit other areas ( although Serpents Skull wasn't my cup of tea at all ), Varisia has that certain "je ne sais quoi" that makes it immensely interesting to me. Must be that Curse of the Crimson Throne was my first Pathfinder AP I ran. :)

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Gorbacz wrote:
DAMMIT PAIZO, you screwed up the AP abbreviations! How are we going to differentiate Serpent's Skull and Shattered Star?

Serpent's Skull = SS

The Shattered Star = TSS

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KaeYoss wrote:
I talked to Paizo and they told me this was intentional so you lazy buggers have to write the whole name instead of using abbreviations. :P

I wish you could like a post more than once! :-P


James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
I talked to Paizo and they told me this was intentional so you lazy buggers have to write the whole name instead of using abbreviations. :P
I wish you could like a post more than once! :-P

You can always add it to the FAQ or something :D

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We'll have a lot more information about The Shattered Star AP in a few months. We wanted to announce it as part of our celebration of our 10th year anniversary (and our 5th year of Pathfinder); that's also why we're going back to Varisia with this AP, incidentally.

But I can tell you this bit of extra info about what "The Shattered Star" actually is. The PCs will learn this relatively early in the first adventure, but I'll spoiler it anyway...

Spoiler:
The Shattered Star is the seven-pointed star referred to in Rise of the Runelords as the Sihedron Rune—the symbol of Thassilonian magic. Turns out, the original Sihedron was a powerful artifact owned by Xin himself, and it's shattering signified the first rise of the Runelords and the fall of Thassilon into an empire ruled by sin magic users and the corruption of virtue magic and all of that. The runelords were able to break the Sihedron up, but couldn't destroy it, and so they hid the seven parts in seven different locations.

Basically... we realized that, after a dozen or so Adventure Paths, we'd never done a "gather the artifacts" AP. This is going to be it!

Shadow Lodge

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I welcome more Sihedron goodness


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James Jacobs wrote:

We'll have a lot more information about The Shattered Star AP in a few months. We wanted to announce it as part of our celebration of our 10th year anniversary (and our 5th year of Pathfinder); that's also why we're going back to Varisia with this AP, incidentally.

But I can tell you this bit of extra info about what "The Shattered Star" actually is. The PCs will learn this relatively early in the first adventure, but I'll spoiler it anyway...

** spoiler omitted **

Neat! Can't wait. :)


James Jacobs wrote:

We'll have a lot more information about The Shattered Star AP in a few months. We wanted to announce it as part of our celebration of our 10th year anniversary (and our 5th year of Pathfinder); that's also why we're going back to Varisia with this AP, incidentally.

But I can tell you this bit of extra info about what "The Shattered Star" actually is. The PCs will learn this relatively early in the first adventure, but I'll spoiler it anyway...

** spoiler omitted **

One year and counting down....


Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

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KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.

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James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.

But ...

It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).

So that might be a hint ...

Spoiler:
That said, more Adventures/APs with Superscience would still be most welcome. :)

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Lord Fyre wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.

But ...

It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).

So that might be a hint ...

** spoiler omitted **

Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.

Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.

But ...

It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).

So that might be a hint ...

** spoiler omitted **

Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.

Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed.

Okay then ...

But, we know that there were seven Runelords. That still leaves three unaccounted for.
We also know that Zutha is still in play out there ...

Hmmmm ...

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James Jacobs wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.
It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).

Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.

Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed.

Maybe we'll have Part 7 of 6 by then!


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James Jacobs wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

That reminds me of another

Spoiler:
seven-part artifact
of old and a big adventure associated with it. And in a good way!

James Jacobs wrote:


Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.

Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed.

But, but, but, you're going to get a big-ass artefact the the AP. You can't hand a BAA to players and then just let them off a lame Balor or something.

If this BAA isn't enough to let a mid-level party totally screw a trio of überwizards, then it isn't worthy of the name!!!

;-P


James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D

This isn't an AP about Runelords.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose.

Sizeable wager on myself!

I say we should get the old New Crew back together. Except Child Abuse, that guy's a creep.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
We also know that Zutha is still in play out there ...

Not necessarily.

Just because we provide stats for an artifact doesn't mean said artifact is still around... ESPECIALLY if said artifact doesn't show up in an adventure or in the context of something more than a web supplement.


I should've expected this with so many whining about ninjas in their chocolate and pirates in their peanut butter.

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KaeYoss wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.

Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed.

But, but, but, you're going to get a big-ass artefact the the AP. You can't hand a BAA to players and then just let them off a lame Balor or something.

If this BAA isn't enough to let a mid-level party totally screw a trio of überwizards, then it isn't worthy of the name!!!

;-P

There's plenty more from Thassilon that weren't runelords that could require an artifact to deal with.

Like oliphaunts of Jandelay, for example. Or nascent demon lords. Or impossibly ancient dragons. Or runelords who mysteriously survived their replacement's coup or power grab. Or Mhar. Or something else from Leng. And so on and so on.


When I first saw the title, the first thing I thought of was Numeria too. I'm so relieved that it's not.

Now I really wish I had a good, regular group to play with so that someone would run RotR, CotCT, JR and finishing up with this one. Of course, by the time we could make it through all those APs, I'd probably be moving about four times and need four more gaming groups.

With Paizo publishing such great APs, someone really needs to get transporter technology in place.


I really hope that this AP will keep the R rated content i have heard rise of the runelords has.

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leo1925 wrote:
I really hope that this AP will keep the R rated content i have heard rise of the runelords has.

It might. We've periodically ventured into "R-rated" content in most of our APs, in fact. Folks are just more used to it these days, I guess.

The Exchange

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I hold out hope that one day there will be Barbarians vs Robot love with a Numerian AP.


I know this AP is way into the future and is probably not fully fleshed out but from what I have heard it sounds like the PCs will actually be working for/with the Pathfinder Society in this one. True? As far as I know that's a first in an AP, correct?

Silver Crusade

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cibet44 wrote:
I know this AP is way into the future and is probably not fully fleshed out but from what I have heard it sounds like the PCs will actually be working for/with the Pathfinder Society in this one. True? As far as I know that's a first in an AP, correct?

Serpent's Skull also let you work for/with the PFS

Shadow Lodge

Working for Pathfinder Society in SS is the weakling way, the "no hot chicks and ambiguous moralities" way. Ewww

My excitement is starting to peak for TSS. At first I was kind of uninterested since Magnimar, so far I mean, has appeared to be a sort of bureacratic hotspot for opportunistic merchants and scholars of antiquities. It's the City of Momuments - interesting but when compared to Riddleport and Korvosa(or Kaer Maga) kind of bland and lacking the kind of exciting tension adventures are made of.

Naturally my uninterest might have been caused by the relative lack of information and experience with the city. Skinsaw Murders did end in Magnimar, but it's importance in the RotR campaign was very minor and party had very little reason to stay or explore the area. Perhaps TSS will give the kind of treatment for Magnimar that Korvosa got in CotCT. Here's to hoping.

But searching for a certain lost artifact, roaming the delicious Varisian countryside and reawakening lost horrors - these things certainly have gotten my interest.

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Yeah; the Pathfinder Society actually played a pretty strong role (or could, depending on how your group worked out) in Serpent's Skull.

But the Pathfinder Society will be playing a much larger role in The Shattered Star.

NOTE: When we talk about the Pathfinder Society playing a role in the AP, what we're talking about is the in-game Pathfinder Society, NOT our massive org play organization. Magnimar is the newest major city with a Pathfinder Society lodge in it, and we'll be exploring what it means for the society to launch a new chapter in a new region to a certain extent, and will probably set up the PCs in that one as part of that initiative.

What's going on with the Pathfinder Society org play program during next Gen Con when we launch The Shattered Star is something we're still working out.


James Jacobs wrote:
What's going on with the Pathfinder Society org play program during next Gen Con when we launch The Shattered Star is something we're still working out.

Taking note of this.


I have always loved the find the artifact pieces adventures, so this should be fun. Plus I got on board for the first time with pathfinder leading up to rise of the runelords, so Varissa to me is really PATHFINDER. It has all the stuff I love in it. Ancient lost cities, super powerful evil wizards and there legacy. So this AP should be amazing.


my first inclination when i heard about this ap was it did not sound like my cup of tea. then i remembered that was my initial reaction to carrion crown (more from horror fatigue) so i will patiently wait to see the mock up of story line before deciding wether to invest time or resources, in the mean time theirs a pole to cross and my all-time favorite that i've been waiting for what seem like forever the chance to be a pirate lord.


I'm really looking foreword to seeing how this one develops.
Depending on the time of release, we may even do this instead of RotRL.


nighttree wrote:

I'm really looking foreword to seeing how this one develops.

Depending on the time of release, we may even do this instead of RotRL.

Pretty sure it will be July or August of 2012.

You know since Paizo has to finish the AP running now (Jade Regent) and start and finish the shackles and skulls (or whatever it's called, i mean the pirate-themed AP) AP that is sheduled to come after Jade Regent.

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nighttree wrote:

I'm really looking foreword to seeing how this one develops.

Depending on the time of release, we may even do this instead of RotRL.

The Rise of the Runelords hardcover's scheduled to release in June of 2012.

The Shattered Star AP starts in August of 2012.


James Jacobs wrote:

But the Pathfinder Society will be playing a much larger role in The Shattered Star.

NOTE: ... Magnimar is the newest major city with a Pathfinder Society lodge in it, and we'll be exploring what it means for the society to launch a new chapter in a new region to a certain extent, and will probably set up the PCs in that one as part of that initiative.

That's too bad. :(

I pretty much have zero interest in the Pathfinder Society. And Serpent's Skull really didn't enamor me of them all that much, either.

Hopefully my players will be given the option to not be any part of that, in the adventure.

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Arnwyn wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

But the Pathfinder Society will be playing a much larger role in The Shattered Star.

NOTE: ... Magnimar is the newest major city with a Pathfinder Society lodge in it, and we'll be exploring what it means for the society to launch a new chapter in a new region to a certain extent, and will probably set up the PCs in that one as part of that initiative.

That's too bad. :(

I pretty much have zero interest in the Pathfinder Society. And Serpent's Skull really didn't enamor me of them all that much, either.

Hopefully my players will be given the option to not be any part of that, in the adventure.

Your players can be given any option that you, the GM, decide to give them.

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I am not inspired to pick this one up, though that's actually a good thing, as this likely means I'll get to play it. Kingmaker, Serpent Skull, Carrion Crown & now Jade Regent I bought back to back. While my Kingmaker game went on hiatus & I was talked into letting a buddy of mine run SS, while I'm currently running CC & about to start running JR. I likely will still be running one (or both) by the time Star hits the shelves (so, I likely wouldn't even have time to run it), and I suspect some of my other GM friends will likely appreciate that for once I'm not gnashing at the bit and depriving them of the chance. I may be "eh" about what I've heard about the AP so far, but experience tells me that it'll still grab me by the socks and drag me for a ride.

And Magnimar? Dang, I've been curious about and wanting to play around there since I read the article about it many, many issues ago. Maybe we'll even get over to Kaer Maga or Riddleport and I'll get to play a Cypher or Bloat Mage...


Very Cool! I'm looking forward to this more than S&S or JR, and not just because I'm a big fanboy of Thassilon and all the Rune-inspired goodness of Varisia. I'm also stoked to see more on Magnimar coming out to help flesh out the first major city-state of the Pathfinder setting and what role the Pathfinder lodge plays in the region.

Just wish it had come out a little earlier than this tho (as I conclude the Skinsaw Murders tonight). :)

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