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Ok this keeps popping up in the ninja thread so i moved it here. It seems a large number of people are useing this archetype incorrectly. Or at lest What i think of as incorrectly. They are claiming it can be cherry picked. But Archetypes do not work that way.
Now the archetype states
Ki Power: A qinggong monk can select a ki power (see below) for which she qualifies in place of the following monk class abilities: slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th). This replaces the monk class ability the qinggong monk gives up for this ki power.
Now folks are claiming you do not have to take a replacement , which is false. And they say this based upon the word "can" which many archetypes use. And we know you must take all the replacements with an archetype and may not choose to skip one.
The Break is what is getting people. Read it this way "A qinggong monk can select a ki power for which she qualifies" They replace slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th)
Now some claim for example you can skip high jump but lets look at the rest of the option. The Archetype says you can indeed have high jump, but most be at lest 6th level to take the ki power.
What this says is you can not have it at 5th. The archetype does not allow it, you must be at lest 6th level to take high jump if you are this type of monk. What this archetype does is replace all the options at 4th,5th.7th.11th,12th,13th,15th.17th,17th,19th and 20th with options, lots and lots of options.
You can still take some of those Powers but only at the level the archetype allows.
Now if you can show me where paizo has stated this archetype does not in fact use the normal archetype rules I would like to see it.
If this is going to be a vote thread i vote that the qinggong can pick what abilities to change and that this archetype has the potential to stack with any other archetype.
Then it is not an archetype as they do not work in this fashion. It might be an alt class, but even then the list it gives proves you can not take high jump at 5th level with this monk. You can only ever take ki powers at the level it gives. So it would need to be rewritten.
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I so love how the topic doesn't feel like "hey developers, please lend an eye here and post just one sentence to clarify the thing : I think this and other people are thinking this, my take is that this works like this because, but could you please end this with an official take on the subject ?" ; and more "oh my god everyone is doing it WRONG".
But I appreciate the attempt to not make it look like this too much.
Now some claim for example you can skip high jump but lets look at the rest of the option. The Archetype says you can indeed have high jump, but most be at lest 6th level to take the ki power.
No, this means you can't get High Jump as a ki power before level 6 in case you didn't get it because of another archetype, or because you traded it at a lower level for a ki power like Barkskin or True Strike.
But I'm not going to copy-paste every argument made against your really questionable interpretation, and will just enjoy my pop-corn for now.
Honestly if they are abusing the wording they are in fact doing it wrong. The way archetypes work are clear, when you may take a ki power is clear {it even has a niffty list to help you}
You can not choose not to take some of an archetypes changes and keep the other non archetype stuff. They do not work that way.
And what should I have called the thread? The topic really did not belong where it was, someone asked us to stop but it kept getting brought back up so here we are. New shiny thread.If ya have something official I have not seen that says it does not use archetype rules however I will drop it. Until that time I am gonna assume it works the way ti says it does and the way they all work, and yes if you see someone using a rule wrong you normal should tell them they are.
You can not choose not to take some of an archetypes changes and keep the other non archetype stuff. They do not work that way
Other archetypes do not. Qinggong almost certainly does. It says you can select another ability in place of one of those. Thats an option; a choice. You can choose not to select a ki power, retaining the original ability.
It'd be slightly more clear if it said "A qinggong monk may select..." instead of 'can', but its irrelevant.
For things to work like you are saying, it would need to say the following:
"A qinggong monk must select a ki power..."
If that is the intent, it DOES need to be clarified, because that is not at all how it reads.
Many archetypes and classes use the word "can" it does not mean you have an option. The sentence is a bit oddly written but it says you can select any power you qualify for in place of one of the others.
The simple fact is the whole argument for it rest only on the word "can", which does not in and by itself imply you have an option to not replace a listed ability
Many archetypes and classes use the word "can" it does not mean you have an option.
Perhaps you can cite where this is true so we can look at that for comparison?
Ok this keeps popping up in the ninja thread so i moved it here. It seems a large number of people are useing this archetype incorrectly. Or at lest What i think of as incorrectly. They are claiming it can be cherry picked. But Archetypes do not work that way.
Now the archetype states
Ki Power: A qinggong monk can select a ki power (see below) for which she qualifies in place of the following monk class abilities: slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th). This replaces the monk class ability the qinggong monk gives up for this ki power.Now folks are claiming you do not have to take a replacement , which is false. And they say this based upon the word "can" which many archetypes use. And we know you must take all the replacements with an archetype and may not choose to skip one.
The Break is what is getting people. Read it this way "A qinggong monk can select a ki power for which she qualifies" They replace slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th)
Now some claim for example you can skip high jump but lets look at the rest of the option. The Archetype says you can indeed have high jump, but most be at lest 6th level to take the ki power.
What this says is you can not have it at 5th. The archetype does not allow it, you must be at lest 6th level to take high jump if you are this type of monk. What this archetype does is replace all the options at 4th,5th.7th.11th,12th,13th,15th.17th,17th,19th and 20th with options, lots and lots of options.
You can still take some of those Powers but only at the level the archetype allows.
Now if you can show me where paizo...
So I've examined your claim concerning the functioning of the monk archetype "Qinggong Monk" and I've developed what I think is a compelling counter argument:
"Pfft"
Seriously? I'll mark this as FAQ, but honestly, if it turns out you're right, I'll give you $1.
Then it is not an archetype as they do not work in this fashion. It might be an alt class, but even then the list it gives proves you can not take high jump at 5th level with this monk. You can only ever take ki powers at the level it gives. So it would need to be rewritten.
Even if Quinjong is an exception to the normal rules of archetypes, is a welcomed and friggin' good one.
I personally hope is a model for future implementations. I think that swappable class features are far more desirable in a game wich has among its "goodies" character customization.
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Ah, let's assume just one second you just won 1$. Just as an assumption, despite the arguments and odds. Three questions :
1. Was the interpretation of the text so ambiguous that there were clearly two camps in the forums about how this specific archetype works from the beginning ; one saying this replaces all abilities and one saying you get to pick what you want before you brought the subject in this topic ?
2. Was the "wrong" interpretation (from your point of view) ever considered as broken, source of lenghty discussions about how the qinggong monk is OMG broken source of abuse, too good, bad in fluff and crunch and overall a true deception from Paizo ?
3. Does any player want this to be suddenly FAQed as the boring, "not wrong" version you would like it to see, considering it is at the same time a valid and praised archetype by people despiting anything looking in any way like a muchkin ?
If you answered "hell f+%+ no" to each question, then bravo ! :
The official answer (considering you were actually right) will finally be to please the player, not the guy who reads it differently and wants the fun and balanced rules to become bad.
Ok, I Do not have time for a large search right now but.....
Monk
Drunken Ki (Su): At 3rd level, a drunken master can drink a tankardDrunken Strength (Su): At 5th level, a drunken master can spend 1 point of ki
Firewater Breath (Su): At 19th level, a drunken master can take a drink
Steal Ki (Ex): At 5th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki
Life Funnel (Su): At 7th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal a creature's life
Life from a Stone (Su): At 11th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki or life force
Mystic Persistence (Su): At 19th level, a ki mystic can create an aura once per day
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk of the empty hand can make a flurry
Slow Time (Su): At 12th level, a monk of the four winds can use his ki
Ancient Healing Hand (Su): At 7th level, a monk of the healing hand can heal
Ki Sacrifice (Su): At 11th level, a monk of the healing hand can use
True Sacrifice (Su): At 20th level, in a final selfless act, a monk of the healing hand can draw in
Iron Limb Defense (Ex): At 5th level, a monk of the sacred mountain can deflect
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a zen archer can make a flurry
Reflexive Shot (Ex): At 9th level, a zen archer can make attack
They all use can the same why and none of them allow you to skip one and take the normal option.
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Hey, lets see what I found pretty easily.
Under the Ranger Combat Style (ex) class feature...
"At 2nd level, a ranger must select one of two combat styles to pursue: archery or two-weapon combat."
Hey! There's that word 'must'. And when it lists out your choices in the next section under each combat style, it uses the word can!
Pretty clear delineation there between 'must' (non-optional) and 'can' (optional) IMO.
EDIT: Dude, that list you just quoted... you're trolling right?
1. Was the interpretation of the text so ambiguous that there were clearly two camps in the forums about how this specific archetype works from the beginning ; one saying this replaces all abilities and one saying you get to pick what you want before you brought the subject in this topic ?
Emphasis mine.
Have you seen enough poeple here in the forum who think seekerofshadowlight thinks about that? are they enough to be considered a camp? because i think that this is one of the very rare cases where nearly the whole forum agrees on something.
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Ok this keeps popping up in the ninja thread so i moved it here. It seems a large number of people are useing this archetype incorrectly.
Unfortunately, Seeker, it is clear that you are in the group using the archetype wrong. Its clearly written as a choice - taking it as such is not an abuse. It doesn't matter how other archetypes work. This one gives you the whole Lego bucket to build a monk with the powers you see fit - whether they are from the original list, or from the replacement powers.
Sorry, but there is zero (zilch, nada) to back up your interpretation.
EDIT and here is your PRD quote that conclusively disproves your interpretation:
A qinggong monk can learn additional ki powers, which often replaces a non-ki monk ability such as purity of body.
Often is not equal to always. Therefore, you can keep non-ki abilities.
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Emphasis mine.
Have you seen enough poeple here in the forum who think seekerofshadowlight thinks about that? are they enough to be considered a camp? because i think that this is one of the very rare cases where nearly the whole forum agrees on something.
Not lying, at first I didn't know if it was really possible to trade abilities since it looked like something without a precedent. I checked the forums and answers were freakin' unanimous, and the possibility to stack archetypes appeared in lots of monks threads without ringing any bell from anyone as looking "impossible", broken, or even subject to discussion. On the contrary, EVERYONE was delighted and accepted immediately the idea you get to choose if you trade abilities.
In my game, I was allowed by my DM to trade archetype abilities for ki powers if they sucked for my concept and replaced monk abilities I could have trade : for example, I didn't get Iron Limb or Bastion Defense, nor Immunity to fear when drunken, but I got Barkskin, True Strike and Poison SLA, which was fluffed as vomiting poisonous bile onto the enemy.
But THIS particular case is clearly not allowed by RAW, even though stacking Qinggong and any other archetype is.
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Ok, I Do not have time for a large search right now but.....
[Lots of list of abilities]
I initially thought you were incorrect, now I think you might be correct. However, something bugging me about all of this is I could have sworn I saw a dev (possibly James, who some people yelled at me already about his word not being official) state that it worked that you didn't have to replace an ability if you didnt want to; in that case you couldnt later select the ability you kept if it appears in a list. Like if you didnt replace slow fall, you couldnt later replace something else with slow fall and quick advance it. I'll see what if I can find that post that I very possibly may have imagined. Barring that, I'm inclined to agree with Seeker: you have to replace the ability, but the difference is you get a choice of what to replace it with, and can later go back and add it back if you wanted to keep it.
EDIT: Keep going back and forth on this, both arguments make sense to me. I see no issue with allowing it to work on a selective basis as the majority of people are saying it works. In fact, I like it better that way. I wish more classes had choices like that you could take to customize (rogue talents, ninja tricks, alchemical discoveries etc). So instead of it being an archetype, introduce monk insights, and let the player build the monk they want.
Many archetypes and classes use the word "can" it does not mean you have an option.Perhaps you can cite where this is true so we can look at that for comparison?
Did a search of my apg.pdf of the word "can", and while it appears ALOT, nowhere does it refer to a choice of taking an ability or not (Ranger combat styles and Rogue talents excluded).
Haven't searched UM or UC, but as far as I can see, the Qigong monk is unique.
As for the discussion:
The rules are clear about Archetypes but the qigong monk has two lines that clearly contradicts that rule:
"A qinggong monk can select a ki power (see below) for which she qualifies in place of the following monk class abilities"
And later:
"Even if a qinggong monk selects a different ki power in place of a standard monk ability, she can select that monk ability later as one of her ki powers."
The first sentence clearly indicates that you have a choice to switch abilities and the second sentence doesn't make any sense if you don't have the choice to not switch abilities, and it also states that you have a choice.
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Wow this thread moves fast!
@Maxximilius
Ok first thanks for showing me my typo.
That's the opinion i got from the forums on the subject, glad i wasn't the only one.
@Kabump
You understand that he listed powers instead of rules right?
Those "can" mean "you can use this power or not when doing X", that way a monk isn't forced to make a flurry of blows but has the option of using flurry of blows. The "can" we are discussing has nothing to do with the list of "cans" he provided.
Ok, I Do not have time for a large search right now but.....
Monk
Drunken Ki (Su): At 3rd level, a drunken master can drink a tankardDrunken Strength (Su): At 5th level, a drunken master can spend 1 point of ki
Firewater Breath (Su): At 19th level, a drunken master can take a drink
Steal Ki (Ex): At 5th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki
Life Funnel (Su): At 7th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal a creature's life
Life from a Stone (Su): At 11th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki or life force
Mystic Persistence (Su): At 19th level, a ki mystic can create an aura once per day
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk of the empty hand can make a flurry
Slow Time (Su): At 12th level, a monk of the four winds can use his ki
Ancient Healing Hand (Su): At 7th level, a monk of the healing hand can heal
Ki Sacrifice (Su): At 11th level, a monk of the healing hand can use
True Sacrifice (Su): At 20th level, in a final selfless act, a monk of the healing hand can draw in
Iron Limb Defense (Ex): At 5th level, a monk of the sacred mountain can deflect
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a zen archer can make a flurry
Reflexive Shot (Ex): At 9th level, a zen archer can make attack
They all use can the same why and none of them allow you to skip one and take the normal option.
None of those have to do with the selection of the ability, they have to do with its use, and that use in is fact optional. Go back and read it with must in place of the cans.
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You understand that he listed powers instead of rules right?
Those "can" mean "you can use this power or not when doing X", that way a monk isn't forced to make a flurry of blows but has the option of using flurry of blows. The "can" we are discussing has nothing to do with the list of "cans" he provided.
Yup, I get that. However, other archetype replacements do rules type replacements, trading something for +x to saves or something of the like. In this case, they did a general rule so it would take up less space: they didnt have room to say "At level 4 you can replace slow fall with any of these powers:" and do that for every single ability. All im saying is i can understand how seeker came to his conclusion. As I have since edited my initial post, I can clearly see the argument from both sides, even though I want it to work as the majority are claiming it does.
You understand that he listed powers instead of rules right?
Those "can" mean "you can use this power or not when doing X", that way a monk isn't forced to make a flurry of blows but has the option of using flurry of blows. The "can" we are discussing has nothing to do with the list of "cans" he provided.
This.
It actually supports the opposite argument he's making; in every case there, you've got a new choice you're allowed to make, granted by the ability in question.
In all of those cases, you have the option of not doing the listed thing.
In reference to the Divine Defender, unless the ability in question 'works like' the original ability, your options are to bond with your armor or nothing. As there are penalties which can come of losing your bonded armor, there are totally reasons why you might not desire to bond with your armor at any given time. EDIT: Actually, it totally implies you can choose any of the three options. Nevermind.
Ok, I Do not have time for a large search right now but.....
Monk
Drunken Ki (Su): At 3rd level, a drunken master can drink a tankardDrunken Strength (Su): At 5th level, a drunken master can spend 1 point of ki
Firewater Breath (Su): At 19th level, a drunken master can take a drink
Steal Ki (Ex): At 5th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki
Life Funnel (Su): At 7th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal a creature's life
Life from a Stone (Su): At 11th level, a hungry ghost monk can steal ki or life force
Mystic Persistence (Su): At 19th level, a ki mystic can create an aura once per day
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk of the empty hand can make a flurry
Slow Time (Su): At 12th level, a monk of the four winds can use his ki
Ancient Healing Hand (Su): At 7th level, a monk of the healing hand can heal
Ki Sacrifice (Su): At 11th level, a monk of the healing hand can use
True Sacrifice (Su): At 20th level, in a final selfless act, a monk of the healing hand can draw in
Iron Limb Defense (Ex): At 5th level, a monk of the sacred mountain can deflect
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a zen archer can make a flurry
Reflexive Shot (Ex): At 9th level, a zen archer can make attack
They all use can the same why and none of them allow you to skip one and take the normal option.
This list is completely irrelelevant to the discussion.
Those "can" signifies that the character has a choice to use the ability or not, they're not forced to make a "Steal Ki" everytime they attack.Nowhere does it say they can choose the original ability insead, while the Qigong monk writeup does just that.
Edit: Ninja'd
Not to derail the thread, but can you use the Qinggong monk with other archetypes that replace any of the abilities you can replace as a Qinggong, given the interpretation that all of the Qinggong switches are optional?
Yes that's pretty much what the majority thinks and what seekerofshadowlight doesn't.
From what i have heard and from what i can think i don't think that it breaks anything it actually makes the monk more customizable and gives a much needed power boost.Seriously the monk needs the power boost more than anyone, especially now that brass knuckles have re-re-changed.
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Not to derail the thread, but can you use the Qinggong monk with other archetypes that replace any of the abilities you can replace as a Qinggong, given the interpretation that all of the Qinggong switches are optional?
By using the general assumption ("shared by the overwhelming 99% majority of people") that Qinggong allows you to replace monk abilities by ki powers you want, you could technically add any archetype to your monk, then trade the last monk abilities that aren't changed by an archetype with a power you can qualify for.
Let's say you get the qinggong drunken monk : it replaces Still Mind, Purity of Body, Diamond Mind and Diamond soul. So, you don't get these abilities anymore as a monk and can't trade them, but any other monk ability left can be traded for a ki power. Note that you can stack archetypes if they don't change the same class features, this means you could also have a Lotus Qinggong Drunken Monk of the Sacred Mountain, with qinggong replacing Wholeness of Body, which is one of the only monk abilities not changed by any of these archetypes.
I am not sure where you get I am twisting the words Caedwyr. This really is how I read it and how it still reads to me, I never even thought you could read it another way and it took me a few posts in the other thread to see how anyone could read it that way.
I honestly want to know. I still think you can not cherry pick as the way it is written and the charts it has seems to say you can not. I think they rushed it for space and it is not as neatly presented as it could be.
I quoted some above some even with ki powers and they are written with the very same use of can. Archetypes simply do not allow cherry picking and if this one does it A: is not an archetype and B: should be clear it does so.
I am not sure where you get I am twisting the words Caedwyr. This really is how I read it and how it still reads to me, I never even thought you could read it another way and it took me a few posts in the other thread to see how anyone could read it that way.
I honestly want to know. I still think you can not cherry pick as the way it is written and the charts it has seems to say you can not. I think they rushed it for space and it is not as neatly presented as it could be.
I quoted some above some even with ki powers and they are written with the very same use of can. Archetypes simply do not allow cherry picking and if this one does it A: is not an archetype and B: should be clear it does so.
Now you're just ignoring evidence. Like how your other listed uses of can are completely irrelevant and this:
"Even if a qinggong monk selects a different ki power in place of a standard monk ability, she can select that monk ability later as one of her ki powers."
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Monk Abilities: Some ki powers are are standard monk abilities. Even if a monk selects a different ki power in place of a monk ability, she can select that monk ability later as one of her ki powers.
Even. If.
If.
There. There's your proof. The text specifically calls out that a quiggong monk will not necessarily have selected a ki power in place of one of the standard monk powers. There is no other way to interpret that sentence in a way that does not also make the Paizo authors some of the worst in the world - and they're not. The choices are options, period.
I have been wrong before, I honestly do not think I am but eh I could be. Yes that line is in there, but so are many, many monk ablilites. All that line says to me is you do not loose a normal monk power {from the list} if it is not chosen at that level.
I can see how you are reading it otherwise, but I just did not see it that way.
Dear seeker,
You are wrong.
Love, TOZ.
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+1
(also add the voice from Dungeon Siege 2. Where you answer riddles in the desert)
Edit:
GM: "You all emerge from the forest on a cliff side. Now you can jump down..."
Player: "Okay guys, jump!" <jumps>
GM: "...onto those sharp rocks, or climb down with ropes."
Ok if it was just the wording I would think I had just misread it at this point, but it is not just the wording.
By placing those monk Powers on the Ki charts you are now limited to those charts. The archetype for instance simply disallow you to take high jump before you are at lest 6th level.
If it was pure option then the powers list would not be sit up the way it now is.
Requirements: All ki powers have a minimum monk level requirement to select them. A monk who does not meet this requirement cannot select that ki power.
By placing those monk abilities you normally gain in a high list, they have blocked you from taking them as normal.
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Requirements: All ki powers have a minimum monk level requirement to select them. A monk who does not meet this requirement cannot select that ki power.
For the fourth time, Ki power =/= base monk ability.
A monk ability can be taken as a Ki power, but always at a level higher than he would have got it at first because :
1. Getting to choose to trade Slow Fall for "costs ki" High Jump at level 4 wouldn't be balanced ;
2. Getting to choose to trade High Jump at level 5 for "costs ki" High Jump at level 5 wouldn't make any sense.
EDIT : Removed a part of my post about a detail that isn't anymore. Nothing to see here, folks !
I still can not agree with how it is written you have the option when the charts are saying you do not, nor can you take them. If it was meant as an option then the charts would match the levels and the standard powers would be sit at that level. As it is written you can not take them at the normal levels.
@Gorbacz, if I am wrong I am wrong. But I also feel it is badly written and not an archetype if that is the case.
Honestly no I do not see a difference, The ki powers list what you replace.
Honestly no I do not see a difference, The ki powers list what you replace.
Ok... and how does the can in Drunken Ki demonstrate the replacement of something?
It is used the same way. As in you can do something. Not you have the option of. In this case it is telling you that you can choose any ki power you meet the requirement for.
If it allowed you the option of not switching it should state that. But it does not, it does not say you can choose to replace, it says you can selected any ki power you Qualify for in place of the listed powers.
It shows you what you give up and at what level you get another pick.
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It is used the same way. As in you can do something. Not you have the option of. In this case it is telling you that you can choose any ki power you meet the requirement for.
If it allowed you the option of not switching it should state that. But it does not, it does not say you can choose to replace, it says you can selected any ki power you Qualify for in place of the listed powers.
It shows you what you give up and at what level you get another pick.
Let us assume for a moment you are correct, if that were the intention, would the rules not be written as: "A qinggong monk must select a ki power [...]"
In other words, in my opinion, you are mistaken.
The qinggong monk was not originally developed as an archetype - the mechanical structure and framework that it follows was shaped into its current form more-or-less forcefully from the original design. As such it does not follow the normal archetype rule forms - and it is in fact quite literally possible to be a 20th level qinggong monk without having replaced a single class ability. This does not make it a logical fallacy that proves that its a "must" replace, it simply is that open-ended an archetype.
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The word can implies a yes/no option. From an earlier example you can drink. If you can drink, then you can also not drink. After all, once you gain the power, you are not forced to drink constantly or even at all.
You can choose a power. Again, implies a yes/no option. You can choose an option, or you can not choose an option.