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Numeria exploration with a dip into spaaaaaace
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How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
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How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
Yes, dragons are overplayed. Dragonborn, Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon, Dragon Strike, Dragon Dice... you get the drift :)
After some initial inconsistencies with fitting dragons into Golarion, the current stance of Erik and James seems to be that dragons are legendary creatures, far removed from affairs of mortals.
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Actually I'd like to see something really experimental after the Pirate AP.
All Dwarves.
or all spellcasters in an Academy of Magic (There's a pretty wide range of classes that could be in that: Bards, Clerics of Magic, Wizard, Sorcerer, Summoner, Witch, Inquisitors of Magic, Magus).
or an AP that starts the PCs off as Humans, Half-Orcs, Half-Elves and Halflings so that the first adventure can be the PCs as 0 level children who eventually grow up to defeat a great evil.
or a Crusader AP that focuses on Divine and Martial classes.
or a City Watch of Absalom campaign where PCs must be no further than one step from Lawful Neutral.
There are stories to be told that don't necessarily work as well with the crazy mix of classes and races that your typical adventuring group provides.
How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
Yes, dragons are overplayed. Dragonborn, Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon, Dragon Strike, Dragon Dice... you get the drift :)
After some initial inconsistencies with fitting dragons into Golarion, the current stance of Erik and James seems to be that dragons are legendary creatures, far removed from affairs of mortals.
And this I like. Dragens are iconic fantasy creatures, but they should be much, much more then just another monster that you can brag about to have killed. Just because we have the rules to feature dragons from Lvl 3 on, an encounter with a dragon should always be memorable and planed ahead and never be random. So I like it when there is one memorable Bossfight with a dragon every other AP.
Just out of curiosity: how many dragons have there been in the AP?
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there is a dragon in kingmaker (tho i wont say where, its a bad a*# tho) thats all i know, serpent's skull has a jungle dragon in the bestiary in sanctum of the serpent god called kongomoto but it doesn't appear in the adventure.
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A set of straight forward adventures involving Intrigue in the realm of Irrisen. This could either be accomplished with natives, Ulfen, or Varisien's fighting through a slew of Baba Yaga's minions. I just finished Winter Witch, Saw Troll Hunter, and have been reading a book of norwegian folk tales and would love to sync my teeth into a campaign based in these lands.
I would favor the adventure where the adventurers play natives of the land and work their way up in influence in winter witches' court. Something like a murder investigation in White Throne would become so much more interesting if the suspects to be interviewed are witches, winter wolves, trolls, or worse.
I voted Kaer Maga (urban + Megadungeon) but a close second would be a campaign based around political intrigue and 'getting ahead' in Taldor.
1. Absalom, assassins and siege towers, has more potential for political intrigue than Taldor
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Arcanamirium Academy AP
PCs must have some manner of magic talent Bard, Cleric (of Magic), Wizard, Sorcerer), Summoner, Witch, Inquisitor (of Magic), Alchemist or Magus. Each book encompasses about 2 years of time at the academy as the characters progress from apprentice, journeyman, maven to an esteemed arcanscenti.
The PCs must tangle with the politics of the school, of Absalom itself and uncover a plot to topple lord Gyr of Gix and throw all of Absalom into chaos.
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Arcanamirium Academy AP
PCs must have some manner of magic talent Bard, Cleric (of Magic), Wizard, Sorcerer), Summoner, Witch, Inquisitor (of Magic), Alchemist or Magus. Each book encompasses about 2 years of time at the academy as the characters progress from apprentice, journeyman, maven to an esteemed arcanscenti.
The PCs must tangle with the politics of the school, of Absalom itself and uncover a plot to topple lord Gyr of Gix and throw all of Absalom into chaos.
Harry Potter just ended. Give it a few years before clambering for more. Moreover, this is the second time in 24 hours on this thread you have made this suggestion.
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Harry Potter just ended. Give it a few years before clambering for more.Arcanamirium Academy AP
PCs must have some manner of magic talent Bard, Cleric (of Magic), Wizard, Sorcerer), Summoner, Witch, Inquisitor (of Magic), Alchemist or Magus. Each book encompasses about 2 years of time at the academy as the characters progress from apprentice, journeyman, maven to an esteemed arcanscenti.
The PCs must tangle with the politics of the school, of Absalom itself and uncover a plot to topple lord Gyr of Gix and throw all of Absalom into chaos.
Hehe, I was never a big fan of Harry Potter. Arcane Academies have always been something I've had an interest in both as a player and GM. The politics of magic and its metaphor as science (both in amazing discoveries and political tool) has long interested me.
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Hehe, I was never a big fan of Harry Potter. Arcane Academies have always been something I've had an interest in both as a player and GM. The politics of magic and its metaphor as science (both in amazing discoveries and political tool) has long interested me.Harry Potter just ended. Give it a few years before clambering for more.Arcanamirium Academy AP
PCs must have some manner of magic talent Bard, Cleric (of Magic), Wizard, Sorcerer), Summoner, Witch, Inquisitor (of Magic), Alchemist or Magus. Each book encompasses about 2 years of time at the academy as the characters progress from apprentice, journeyman, maven to an esteemed arcanscenti.
The PCs must tangle with the politics of the school, of Absalom itself and uncover a plot to topple lord Gyr of Gix and throw all of Absalom into chaos.
I think it's a good idea, but the similarities are striking.
Some sort of AP that involves a lot of sneaking and stealing.
where the players are (or can become) members of a thieves guild.
Interplanetary Portal Adventure Path
This. Possibly starting at higher lvl (5 for example), and going all the way to 17 or 20. It would be awesome if it contained sandboxy / exploratory elements.
I would dislike anything that massively restricted options at character creation (all casters path for example).
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I'm kinda in favor of a meta-plot AP; for example, an AP where the heroes main objective is to stop the heroes of a different AP. Or alternatively a form of sand-box a la Kingmaker, but without the time and resources to exhaustively play the entire sandbox - instead only a third or-so would be completable by a given party. A mega-dungeon might be suitable for such an approach.
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Absalom urban campaign of assassins and secrets and factions and relics. No quests like CoT where the "heroes" run errands for the guys who know what's going on or are the brains behind the political intentions of the rebellion.
The PCs should have allies, but it should be the former and not the latter to handle the "where we're going, how and why" part.
Conflict! A war based campaign, be it in Nirmathas, or perhaps the Worldwound area, or anywhere an orc/hobgoblin horde may strike. Desperate retreats, commando strikes, grueling sieges, grim tactical decisions, anything.
Azlant/Thassilonian ruins&megadungeon. Kaer Maga is nice. Have a look at what the aboleths are capable of. True unspeakable horros from ages past.
Regarding the structure of the AP, after some classical "railroady" and some innovative "sandbox", I'd like to see a hybrid take, with some event-based structure added to the mix.
A clear and well defined storyline (places and events), not too bound by time limits, party composition/intentions, great opportunity for customisation and expansion.
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Voyage to Akiton, the Red Planet!
It would be a good media piggyback with the new John Carter movie coming out next year ...Just sayin!
How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
Yes, dragons are overplayed. Dragonborn, Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon, Dragon Strike, Dragon Dice... you get the drift :)
After some initial inconsistencies with fitting dragons into Golarion, the current stance of Erik and James seems to be that dragons are legendary creatures, far removed from affairs of mortals.
And this I like. Dragens are iconic fantasy creatures, but they should be much, much more then just another monster that you can brag about to have killed. Just because we have the rules to feature dragons from Lvl 3 on, an encounter with a dragon should always be memorable and planed ahead and never be random. So I like it when there is one memorable Bossfight with a dragon every other AP.
Just out of curiosity: how many dragons have there been in the AP?
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There are a bunch in ROTR.
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I'm kinda in favor of a meta-plot AP; for example, an AP where the heroes main objective is to stop the heroes of a different AP. Or alternatively a form of sand-box a la Kingmaker, but without the time and resources to exhaustively play the entire sandbox - instead only a third or-so would be completable by a given party. A mega-dungeon might be suitable for such an approach.
I've been trying to do this at my table for years but I haven't been able to get people on board because we already have two games running. My most recent attempt came as part of at CoTCT side quest
I wanted to have a good and evil group both seeking Kazavon's bones, ending in an epic face off between the two parties
But I don't know how it would work in an AP.
Viking adventure in the Lands of Linnorm Kings, or an AP in Mwangi that lets me kill Ruthazek, the Gorilla King, man I hate that guy.
Or something a touch more classic I could really go for a good Dragonslayer AP. Going against a Dragon that has been plotting for centuries, and getting to screw with his plans, besides something like that might mean a new Dragon mini to paint:)
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How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
There are some dragons and even a jabberwock in Kingmaker
Alien Invasion ala War of the Worlds
(Alternatively: Alan Invasion ala stupid typo/joke)
Alien Invasion ala War of the Worlds
(Alternatively: Alan Invasion ala stupid typo/joke)
Well, there's the Worldwound, that's outsiders invading. A Lastwall campaign would fit.
Now, for true aliens, it has been over the thousand years since the ship crashed in Numeria. That's a long distance for a light speed distress signal to have traveled. Maybe a rescue party shows up. (I vaguely recall seeing a book, didn't read it, about a spaceship that lands in medieval Europe, some crusaders board it, and blast off into space.)
The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. It's fun, if far-fetched.
How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love.
Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Second Darkness, and Legacy of Fire each have at least one dragon in them. I'm pretty sure there's one in Kingmaker and one in Serpent's Skull. Not sure about Carrion Crown or Council of Thieves.
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How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love.Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Second Darkness, and Legacy of Fire each have at least one dragon in them. I'm pretty sure there's one in Kingmaker and one in Serpent's Skull. Not sure about Carrion Crown or Council of Thieves.
Dragons have not been in short supply, by any measure.
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There have been Dragons, but hardly plot central ones.
Usually they end up little more than high level speed bumps rather than schemers, movers and shakers in their own right.
Um...CoTCT
Kazavon...
No we haven't had a "The dragon is the exclusive BBEG" in an AP yet, but between modules and dragons included in APs, it hasn't been an overlooked or underused trope.
How about a dragon? They're kind of a staple monster in the game and I haven't seen even a whiff of one yet. (Granted, I've only played half of RotRL, read some Carrion Crown, and playing in CoT now.) But I thought dragons were the Holy Grail of gaming and Paizo is giving them no love. (I might just not be playing the right AP's.) Are they just overdone for you who've been playing for 30 years?
I'd like to have an AP based on dragons.
Yes, dragons are overplayed. Dragonborn, Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon, Dragon Strike, Dragon Dice... you get the drift :)
After some initial inconsistencies with fitting dragons into Golarion, the current stance of Erik and James seems to be that dragons are legendary creatures, far removed from affairs of mortals.
I'm truly not trying to threadjack, but this stance of Erik and James' confuses me. If you read "Dragons Revisited" nearly every breed of dragon is described to have at least some dealings with mortals, if not extensive dealings. Blacks collect intelligent mortals as trophies (pg.6), Blues and Brasses maintain vast networks of mortals to manipulate (pg. 10), Coppers serve as intermediaries between dragons and mortals (pg. 29), Reds kidnap maidens and raze human settlements (pg. 49). This is clearly not "far removed from the affairs of mortals." Anyway, I'm beating a dead horse, I know, but I'm a latecomer to gaming and I still think dragons are the coolest possible BBEG and I wanna play in an AP that puts me toe-to-toe with a particularly nasty one. That's really all I'm trying to say here. :-)