I'mma go roll a monk that follows the vow of poverty. Behold!
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Ugh! Good fighting stats except for that painful constitution. High charisma... hmm... maybe a dwarven monk. Or a bard with a (scorpion) whip. And toughness.
Does anyone want to start playing with these characters? I must admit, I actually kind of like Leimazel.
I was just thinking about that, man. Yeah, I do wanna run my Rogue, or even that Magus I rolled the other day.
I haven't done this for over a decade, back during 2e. The memories, good times. Let's see what the digital bones grant me.
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Not bad. Looks like a smarter than average, very strong fighter type if I focus on the high strength. If I go human, boosting Int, I might have the makings of a magus.
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A sorcerer as slow as molasses. I'm probably Sloth bloodline.
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I'm thinking a gnome oracle, with the wasting curse to go with that horrible CON - and probably Toughness at first level to stay alive.
STR 3d6
DEX 3d6
CON 3d6
INT 3d6
WIS 3d6
CHA 3d6A sorcerer as slow as molasses. I'm probably Sloth bloodline.
Those are magnificent scores otherwise and you can always apply a +2 to DEX with your racial bonus.
I wonder if there is a way to make 3d6 more attractive in the eyes of players, while still keeping within the spirit of the style? Would it be wrong to say any rolled value lower than 7 is automatically raised to 7?
STR 3d6
DEX 3d6
CON 3d6
INT 3d6
WIS 3d6
CHA 3d6A sorcerer as slow as molasses. I'm probably Sloth bloodline.
Those are magnificent scores otherwise and you can always apply a +2 to DEX with your racial bonus.
I wonder if there is a way to make 3d6 more attractive in the eyes of players, while still keeping within the spirit of the style? Would it be wrong to say any rolled value lower than 7 is automatically raised to 7?
NO
The dice gods have spoken.fa real do, that's why people came up with 4d6 drop lowest.
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YAHTZEE!
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The dice gods have spoken.fa real do, that's why people came up with 4d6 drop lowest.
You're not the first person I've seen who has expressed that opinion. You're saying the dice yield anything between 3 and 18 and you take what you get. I respect that.
9d2 means you have a even chance of getting anything between a 9 and 18. That's fundamentally different from the bell curve of 3d6 (which means you should roll a lot more 9s, 10s, 11s and 12s. I've been exploring the 1d12+6. This maintains the core minimum 7 and maximum of 18. Again though, no bell curve.
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CHA 3d6Man... The world is my oyster! Just your friendly gnome Life Oracle.... too bad he speaks celestial when he's stressed.
Let's see if I got this BBCode right...
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SWM, Cheliaxian, Cleric of Asmodeus, specializing in creative applications and hand-to-hand combat, seeks law-abiding party of adventurers who don't mind getting their hands dirty to keep order and establishment in place. Will provide all ministrations as needed to anyone who doesn't piss me off. Groups with Cayden Cailean worshipers need not apply. Cover sheet should include summary of party resume and references where applicable.
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Cleric, my favourite class.
Wow, that's looking like a Raistlin type of wizard. So I suppose I'd make a human wizard, increase the intelligence to 17 and later bump it up to 18.That would make a good Cloistered Cleric archtype!
Perhaps it would. I haven't looked at the archetype yet.
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Crossbow rogue?
I think that's the first 4 I've seen. Crossbow ranger might be the way to go, that way you get some benefit out of the Wisdom. Not to mention having a (relatively)powerful companion to tank for you!
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Human archery-ranger?
Maybe Elven rouge.. would have to stay away from the front lines for sure.
Have to try it:
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What is this? A rogue might work.
Okay.
Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 18
Int: 18
Wis: 18
Cha: 18
Wow, that was lucky. I totally rolled them here and just reported the results.
Lets try:
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Halfling Sorcerer maybe
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desk bound Mystic Theurge with a crotchety demeanor, all the way
Okay.
Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 18
Int: 18
Wis: 18
Cha: 18Wow, that was lucky. I totally rolled them here and just reported the results.
Looks like you'll be stuck playing yet another lousy rhakshasa antipaladin-ninja gestalt. Well, what do you want? Sometimes you just get unlucky.
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Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
STR 3d6
DEX 3d6
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CHA 3d6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Wow, that is awful.
STR 5
DEX 8
CON 5
INT 9
WIS 10
CHA 6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
That is super-sucky. Any player has the balls to roll with that array, they get something for their trouble.
note: add 5 points to each stat, you go from a -22pt array all the way to a 16pt array.
That is super-sucky. Any player has the balls to roll with that array, they get something for their trouble.STR 5
DEX 8
CON 5
INT 9
WIS 10
CHA 6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
A new character halfway through the session? :-)
A new character halfway through the session? :-)That is super-sucky. Any player has the balls to roll with that array, they get something for their trouble.STR 5
DEX 8
CON 5
INT 9
WIS 10
CHA 6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Another chance to roll... They get full XP, right?
Looks like you'll be stuck playing yet another lousy rhakshasa antipaladin-ninja gestalt. Well, what do you want? Sometimes you just get unlucky.Okay.
Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 18
Int: 18
Wis: 18
Cha: 18Wow, that was lucky. I totally rolled them here and just reported the results.
Nah. Succubus vampire anti-paladin/ninja for me.
STR 1
DEX 10
CON 3
INT 9
WIS 10
CHA 6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Those stats are way too high. Kobold cleric.
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DEX 3d6
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INT 3d6
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CHA 3d6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
The gods of the dice did not so much not favour you as actively despise you?
If I got this array, I WOULD play that character. Preferably a half-orc, to "improve" the physical stats...
STR = 5
DEX = 8
CON = 5
INT = 9
WIS = 10
CHA =6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
The gods of the dice did not so much not favour you as actively despise you?
If I got this array, I WOULD play that character. Preferably a half-orc, to "improve" the physical stats...
So would I, if only to see how long I could keep him alive. I'd just spend the entire campaign trying to aid people. It's too bad the 10 is in Wis instead of Cha.
So would I, if only to see how long I could keep him alive. I'd just spend the entire campaign trying to aid people. It's too bad the 10 is in Wis instead of Cha.
STR = 5
DEX = 8
CON = 5
INT = 9
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CHA =6Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
The gods of the dice did not so much not favour you as actively despise you?
If I got this array, I WOULD play that character. Preferably a half-orc, to "improve" the physical stats...
Dice gods...why do you no love me...was the sacrifice I made last game night not to your liking *drops to knees and parys to the giant d20 in the sky*
Well if I was going to play this array I was thinking of play a angry old man sort of character. Dwarf most likely, a sickly angry dwarf cleric.
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DEX = 8
CON = 7
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Dear lord I don't think he would last long at all.
Ooooh, my turn, I want to give it a try
Hmm, dumb as mud but charismatic like hell and not too bad physically. Think I'll go with a human paladin (+2 to Cha) who hangs around with an evil party that tells him "look, there's an evil doer over there!" when they want to torture somebody.
Either that or a bard (celebrity bard) pop singer or bard (demagogue) politician. Don't need too many wits for either of those occupations!
Let's see what mockery the fickle dice hwarf up:
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Hrmmm ...
Let's go with ... a gnome ranger with the guide and skirmisher archetypes.
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CON: 1
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Man, that's a keeper! 20pt build, would make a great Rogue or Wizard.
Sure, let's give it a whirl...
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Wow, not half bad. I'm kinda lucky, there. Net positive modifier and a 10 point buy...
For the sake of being fun and making use of those stats, let's go Dwarven... So, yeah, meet Ognar, the (Skirmisher) Ranger.
Ognar was raised in the deepest parts of his clan stronghold -- where the mines start to reach the Deeps - and so he's been trained to fight Drow and Aberrations instead of giants and orcs. (Deep Warrior/Ancient Enmity/Magic Resitant instead of Defensive Training/Hatred/Hardy).
So let's bump him to L2 so we can see the fun of his 2-weapon fighting... Spending the 1000gp for L2, we get:
OGNAR (CR 1)
Male Dwarf Ranger 2
NG Medium humanoid (dwarf)
Init +1; Senses Darkvision (60 ft.), Perception +0,
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AC 17, touch 11, flat-footed 16 (+1 Dex, +6 Masterwork Breastplate, )
hp 20 (2d10)+4
Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +0
Spell Resistance 7
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Speed 20 ft.
Melee: mwork waraxe (dwarven) +5 (1d10+2/x3) and handaxe +4 (1d6+1/x3)
Power Attack: mwork waraxe (dwarven) +4 (1d10+4/x3) and handaxe +3 (1d6+2/x3)
Ranged shortbow (composite/strength rating+2) +3 (1d6+2/x3)
Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Special Attacks Ancient Enmity, Favored Enemy (Humanoid (Elf)) +2
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Str 15, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 9, Wis 11, Cha 8
Base Atk +2; CMB +4; CMD 15 (19 vs bullrush) (19 vs trip)
Feats Armor Proficiency, Light, Armor Proficiency, Medium, Martial Weapon Proficiency Output, Power Attack, Shield Proficiency, Simple Weapon Proficiency, Two-Weapon Fighting
Skills Acrobatics -2, Acrobatics (Jump) -6, Appraise -1, Appraise (Precious metals and gemstones) +1, Bluff -1, Climb +3, Craft (Untrained) -1, Diplomacy -1, Disguise -1, Escape Artist -2, Fly -2, Handle Animal +3, Heal +4, Intimidate -1, Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +3, Perception (Notice unusual stonework) +2, Perform (Untrained) -1, Ride -2, Stealth +2, Survival +4, Survival (Follow or identify tracks) +5, Swim -1,
Languages Common, Dwarven
Special Qualities Greed, Hunter's Tricks, Magic Resistant, Stability, Steady, Stonecunning, Track +1, Weapon Familiarity, Wild Empathy +1,
Possessions handaxe; handaxe; masterwork breastplate; masterwork waraxe (dwarven); Shortbow (Composite/Strength Rating+2) ;
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Human fighter/barbarian i guess. You dont really have to be special to take a beating... Afterall, who needs looks when you can grab toughness feat.
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During all his life Tobias was never good at nothing or for anything. He got his assignment in the City Watch thanks to his father, a well know officer in the organization and barely managed to hold on to his position. After years of abuse, always getting the worst jobs, Tobias exploded in a fit of rage during a bar brawl he was supposed to contain. It took 3 of his collegues to keep him from killing the drunk custumers.
It cost him his job but since then Tobias has learned how to control his fury and use it in combat. He now makes a living as a adventurer.
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Looks like a decent rogue for me. 13 point buy, not to shabby. Make him a Elf and possibly go Arcane Trickster or Magus even.
Here he is.
Male Elf Rogue 1
NN Medium Humanoid (Elf)
Hero Points 1
Init +5; Senses Low-Light Vision; Perception +6
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AC 15, touch 13, flat-footed 12. . (+2 armor, +3 Dex)
hp 8 (1d8-1)
Fort -1, Ref +5, Will +0
Immune sleep; Resist Elven Immunities
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Spd 30 ft.
Melee Dagger +3 (1d4/19-20/x2) and
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Ranged Longbow +3 (1d8/20/x3)
Special Attacks Sneak Attack +1d6
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Str 10, Dex 17, Con 8, Int 15, Wis 11, Cha 12
Base Atk +0; CMB +0; CMD 13
Feats Elven Weapon Proficiencies, Rogue Weapon Proficiencies, Weapon Finesse
Traits Arcane Dabbler: Mage Hand (1/day) (Sp), Reactionary
Skills Acrobatics +7, Bluff +5, Disable Device +8, Escape Artist +7, Knowledge: Dungeoneering +6, Perception +6, Sense Motive +4, Sleight of Hand +7, Stealth +7, Survival +1
Languages Common, Elven, Gnome, Orc
SQ Elven Magic, Hero Points (1), Trapfinding +1
Combat Gear Arrows (40), Dagger, Leather, Longbow, Rapier; Other Gear Backpack (empty), Bag, Waterproof (empty), Blanket, Candle (4), Chalk, 1 piece (2), Charcoal Stick (2), Flint and steel, Lamp, common, Oil (1-pint flask) (4), Pouch, belt (empty), Pouch, belt (empty), Sack (empty), Sack (empty), Thieves' tools, Torch (2), Whetstone
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Elven Immunities +2 save bonus vs Enchantments.
Elven Immunities - Sleep You are immune to Sleep effects.
Elven Magic +2 racial bonus on caster checks to overcome spell resistance. +2 to spellcraft checks to determine the properties of a magic item.
Hero Points (1) Hero Points can be spent at any time to grant a variety of bonuses.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and detail.
Sneak Attack +1d6 +1d6 damage if you flank your target or your target is flat-footed.
Trapfinding +1 +1 to find or disable traps.
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Gotta try again, Leimazel needs a party.
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Okay, that's a -15 point buy, excellent. But honestly? Not too bad. It's a decent trapsmith rogue skill monkey. DO I DARE MAKE IT AN ELF? Nah. Dwarf, with Skill Focus: Disable Device. Get the super-stonecunning feats eventually.
Told you I'm bad with dice.
I'm in the mood to try for a second character myself. My first was a rather wise wizard who practically needed to have someone carry him from one place to another. What will this second be?
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Ah a cleric! Who doesn't much care for channeling energy. Not all that bad, actually. I'd be tempted to make him a badly scarred dwarf with an especially bad attitude.
Dwarves aren't the only race that bump Wis :P
Dwarves aren't the only race that bump Wis :P
True, but I have a special fondness for dwarves and I especially like to play up the bad charisma with them.
Gotta try again, Leimazel needs a party.
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CHA: 3d6Okay, that's a -15 point buy, excellent. But honestly? Not too bad. It's a decent trapsmith rogue skill monkey. DO I DARE MAKE IT AN ELF? Nah. Dwarf, with Skill Focus: Disable Device. Get the super-stonecunning feats eventually.
Told you I'm bad with dice.
... except he can give up on actually laying traps, and disabling them, since he's massively overburdened by even carrying a set of thieves' tools...