Aye. I don't feel as if things are getting crowded, in fact, I feel as if things are just getting revved up. I think what we are finding is that you better provide a high-quality product if you plan to offer in this arena, and I think that is a good thing.
My inclination is to say that we won't see a glut, because a certain level of quality has been set that not everyone can provide.
Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I agree with the bar already set fairly high for quality. I think more people entering 3pp for PFRPG will just likely push the drive up for quality. On the other hand I think if a company starts to let their quality slip I could see them getting left behind in a hurry. I think most of us learned from the 3e days and are more cautious about buying 3pp stuff.
I hate to say it, but I disagree with you both. I wish that what you both are saying is true, but my business training tells me otherwise. Business success tends to have to do more with visibility and marketing. No one would ever call McDonalds quality, but they're a commercial success. Why? Good marketing and high visibility. In a similar manner, I know a plenty of people that blame Mongoose for being the ubiquitous d20 glut company. But they're still around. Why? High visibility and good marketing.
And while quality does help propel a company forward, high visibility (like the Paizo store blog posts) is more valuable.
Just my insight.
Thanks for the linkage, D_M. :)
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When I went to bed yesterday I sort of assumed that LMPjr would have seen the negative reaction and worked more on an apology rather than continue with a joke that few seemed to show any support for.
I guess I thought too highly of him.
What does he need to apologize for? Letting people jump to obviously incorrect conclusions based on nothing more than wishful thinking? He made no false claims, made no derogatory comments, and forced no one to part with any money.
As I said elsewehere, Razor Coast, at this point, is a joke and deserves to be treated as such. That's not a knock on those that have invested in it, because its not their fault. But when things like Razor Coast happen you can either moan about it or laugh about it. Either way, the Razor Coast situation is not Louis' fault and this little joke is nothing to get feathers ruffled over.
An Open Letter to Mr. Louis Porter Junior,
You've previously made posts (here and your blog) indicating your interest in purchasing Sinister Adventures and Razor Coast from Mr. Logue, and then -- after that deal failed to materialize -- made the following posts (#1:)
Did Nick Logue burn people with pre-orders and kill his repution with Razor Coast fiasco?
While going over old files I saw the original ad for the creation of Sinister Adventures and the preorder for Razor Coast and it got me thinkinking. I don't know Nick Logue personally and the quality of the work he does is second to none. He really is a expert in the area of gaming writing. But in the area of the business of running a RPG company, well I don't need to or have to beat him up over this, but he has fallen flat on this. Completely flat. The original post about Sinister Adventure and Razor Coast was on April 1, 2008. But now going on nearly 3 years, many feel that this project can be considered vaporware not matter what the Sinister Adventure forums might say. The last time his front page website was updated was October 1, 2009 with this: Announcing the Anarchist Gamemaster Cookbook: Recipes for Games That Don't Suck.{OK here comes Rant & Dig} You know what games really don't suck? Ones that come out. Sorry, Nick, but it is true. {/Rant & Dig}.
Now what really makes me upset over this whole thing is that I offered to take it over the development to help get it out in June 2010 but Nick decided to go another way with it and get some of the Werecabagges to help him with it. Good move! What ever helps get it out is a good thing. And month later, still no product. So I thought, is this enough of a mess up to get people to never buy products from Nick Logue again? Since I don't know the amount of people who pre-ordered, who knows how much money was raised (and or lost) on this project. I would guess it was at least 100 people who preordered which meanss it generated at least $3,000 but I am guessing that figures was much higher. And weirder still, why does he still have the link offering that you can preorder this product even though you actually can't?
Here is a question to all these people reading this blog: What would it take for you to be considiered to be "burned" and have someone ruin their repution with you?
(and #2/YouTube video).
Then, on your blog and here:
After months of finalizing contracts and making sure everything is in place on the legal side, LPJ Design will be making an announcement on a very unique razor sharp exciting project they have been working on dealing with the best freelancers in the RPG industry from coast to coast. While we can't tell you the project name right now, we will give you the hint of the initials of the title, RC. (Hint! Hint!) This project which will be something that fans have been clamoring for several years and LPJ Design is going to give it to you. This project will have sinister overtone in the game world with the adventures that will be legendary on the annuals of RPGs. Go by the LPJ Design blog on Friday and learn more about this upcoming project. Thanks for your support of RC and LPJ Design!
And no finally today: (from your blog)
Roleplaying Cougars: The Sourcebook![/b]
Louis Porter Jr. Design is announcing it newest upcoming project, Roleplaying Cougars, for the Pathfinder Role Playing system. Here is information on Roleplaying Cougars: The Sourcebook
What do twenty something year old gamers like: gaming and cougars! What do thirty- and forty-something year old cougars like: twenty-something year old. It’s like peanut butter and jelly, strippers and dollar bills and Tricia Helfer and Charisma Carpenter sharing a booth at a con. Two great tastes that go so well together! These cougars are bored with their lives at home with their non-gamer husbands and friends, they need some good Pathfinder gaming action with the GMs and players who can handle all that crazy razor sharp gamer action and excitement. From coast to coast, this is the sourcebook that GMs and players have been asking for. Roleplaying Cougars: The Sourcebook gives you all information you need to add a thirty- and forty-something year old cougar to you gaming table. If you thought the Book of Erotic Fantasy was an exciting book, you have seen nothing until you’ve seen Roleplaying Cougars: The Sourcebook!!!!
This sourcebook includes:
- History of the thirty- and forty-something year old cougar
- All the information to game with a thirty- and forty-something year old cougar including Personality and Relations.
- Locations to meet thirty- and forty-something year old cougars
- Getting a thirty- and forty-something year old cougar to you weekly Pathfinder game.
- Introducing a thirty- and forty-something year old cougar to the gaming party.
- Plus an all new thirty- and forty-something year old cougar Paragon Class
- Over 20 All New Cougar Feats to use in and out of game like including You Bring The Snacks, Your Cars Broken so I can Drive You, I’m Hot can I get a Reroll? and many more...
- Thirty- and Forty-something year old Cougar Arms and Armor
- Cougar Miniature Counters
- Cougar Initiative and Monster Cards
Written by Simon Rocquette and Louis Porter Jr. Coming soon to RPGnow, DriveThruRPG and Paizo!]
I have seen my share of April Fool's jokes that crossed the line, but this? I could normally write it off as simply in poor taste, but first you cruelly reopen old wounds for many who pre-ordered Razor Coast years ago, then follow it up by a humorless dig on women in their 30's and 40's?!
In my opinion, you have repeatedly exhibited behavior that comes across as spiteful, sexist, and unprofessional. There are some who maintain that "there is no such thing as bad press." I disagree. While I have previously purchased your company's products, both here and at RPGNow/DriveThruRPG, I will seriously reconsider any future purchases of LPJ Design products.
...What would it take for you to be considiered to be "burned" and have someone ruin their repution with you?
Consider me burned; in my eyes, you have seriously damaged your own reputation.
I hate to say it, but I disagree with you both. I wish that what you both are saying is true, but my business training tells me otherwise. Business success tends to have to do more with visibility and marketing. No one would ever call McDonalds quality, but they're a commercial success. Why? Good marketing and high visibility. In a similar manner, I know a plenty of people that blame Mongoose for being the ubiquitous d20 glut company. But they're still around. Why? High visibility and good marketing.
And while quality does help propel a company forward, high visibility (like the Paizo store blog posts) is more valuable.
Just my insight.
Yes, but we have DM and End at the helm of the quality police, so I think we're in good hands. Well, at least as long we keep feeding them tasty morsels every so often.
Dale, I hear ya, though I wonder what the experience of customers buying this particular area of product will have on this equation. I guess we'll see.
On a complete side note, Dale, I think the whole idea of River Nations was a brilliant one, and one I hope you, and other 3PPs continue to explore. Kudos.
*gulps down morsel*
Thanks for your kind words, Elorabaen! It's good to see that some people out there actually read my reviews and that the time I invest in them is not wasted. :)
All the best,
Endzeitgeist
As a side note: Dale, I LOVED your "Monsters of the River Kingdoms". Will there be a sequel?
On a complete side note, Dale, I think the whole idea of River Nations was a brilliant one, and one I hope you, and other 3PPs continue to explore. Kudos.
Thank you. I really appreciate it. Truth be told, I really wonder why I am the only one that has provided continued support for an AP. Paizo delivers the adventure and a book of setting details, but there's lots more that can be done for each of them. The River Nations experiment was a smashing success and we have plans for more AP support for quite some time yet.
As a side note: Dale, I LOVED your "Monsters of the River Kingdoms". Will there be a sequel?
Funny you should mention that. I just sent Jeff Alverez an email (like 5 minutes ago) about when he can expect more themed monsters from JBE. The environment isn't River areas so much but they are useful with a current dark theme.
When I went to bed yesterday I sort of assumed that LMPjr would have seen the negative reaction and worked more on an apology rather than continue with a joke that few seemed to show any support for.
I guess I thought too highly of him.
What does he need to apologize for? Letting people jump to obviously incorrect conclusions based on nothing more than wishful thinking? He made no false claims, made no derogatory comments, and forced no one to part with any money.
As I said elsewehere, Razor Coast, at this point, is a joke and deserves to be treated as such. That's not a knock on those that have invested in it, because its not their fault. But when things like Razor Coast happen you can either moan about it or laugh about it. Either way, the Razor Coast situation is not Louis' fault and this little joke is nothing to get feathers ruffled over.
I don't buy for a moment that he was trying to indicate anything other than Razor Coast with RC. The only people that would actually get fooled by the "April Fools'" joke are those who would actually be hoping to see it.
The Razor Coast situation is not Louis' fault. Louis' actions are his own fault however. Following yesterday's announcement I couldn't see a single reaction that indicated that it would be a good idea to actually follow up on the joke. Yet he did it anyway. If it wasn't for yesterday's post, I would have a different opinion on it, but just because something is a joke doesn't make it okay.
On a completely random side note, I just wanted to thank Dale for his professional demeanor and attention to detail in his products. I never find anything he says offensive or insensitive and I always find his products, his website, and his posts here and elsewhere well stated and edited.
Funny you should mention that. I just sent Jeff Alverez an email (like 5 minutes ago) about when he can expect more themed monsters from JBE. The environment isn't River areas so much but they are useful with a current dark theme.
As a Ravenloft-DM who is absolutely THRILLED by Carrion Crown, I think I just had an evilgasm...
Great news!
Side note as a (non-professional) writer when it comes to quality.
That's part of the reason I put things out on google docs, I don't think my stuff is a high enough quality to pay for :P
I do think it is good enough. But that is just me.
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Aye. I don't feel as if things are getting crowded, in fact, I feel as if things are just getting revved up. I think what we are finding is that you better provide a high-quality product if you plan to offer in this arena, and I think that is a good thing.
My inclination is to say that we won't see a glut, because a certain level of quality has been set that not everyone can provide.
Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I agree with the bar already set fairly high for quality. I think more people entering 3pp for PFRPG will just likely push the drive up for quality. On the other hand I think if a company starts to let their quality slip I could see them getting left behind in a hurry. I think most of us learned from the 3e days and are more cautious about buying 3pp stuff.I hate to say it, but I disagree with you both. I wish that what you both are saying is true, but my business training tells me otherwise. Business success tends to have to do more with visibility and marketing. No one would ever call McDonalds quality, but they're a commercial success. Why? Good marketing and high visibility. In a similar manner, I know a plenty of people that blame Mongoose for being the ubiquitous d20 glut company. But they're still around. Why? High visibility and good marketing.
And while quality does help propel a company forward, high visibility (like the Paizo store blog posts) is more valuable.
Just my insight.
McDonalds is also cheap, there ones of the cheapest fastfood. They also market to kids. Plus McDonalds is not that much worse than most fast food places. So it is a matter of quality of similar products.
As for Mongoose, yeah they did put out a lot. Some of it was bad, but some of it was also good. Early Conan stuff was very good for example. The ended up finding their niche and making enough good products that appealed to people.
A key thing to remember is quality is subjective. What one person see's as bad someone else might consider as good. Just need enough of the later to support your company.
I do think the current 3pp group for Pathfinder has a higher average quality than what the average 3pp was for 3E. But of course that's just my opinion.
I do agree good marketing goes a long way, but it only goes so far. In the end no matter how well marketed something is, if not enough people buy it aka find it a good quality for the price. Then it won't stay in business IMHO.
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I hate to say it, but I disagree with you both. I wish that what you both are saying is true, but my business training tells me otherwise. Business success tends to have to do more with visibility and marketing. No one would ever call McDonalds quality, but they're a commercial success. Why? Good marketing and high visibility. In a similar manner, I know a plenty of people that blame Mongoose for being the ubiquitous d20 glut company. But they're still around. Why? High visibility and good marketing.
And while quality does help propel a company forward, high visibility (like the Paizo store blog posts) is more valuable.
Just my insight.
Yes, but we have DM and End at the helm of the quality police, so I think we're in good hands. Well, at least as long we keep feeding them tasty morsels every so often.
Dale, I hear ya, though I wonder what the experience of customers buying this particular area of product will have on this equation. I guess we'll see.
On a complete side note, Dale, I think the whole idea of River Nations was a brilliant one, and one I hope you, and other 3PPs continue to explore. Kudos.
I have been accused of a lot of things, often with good reason. But never as quality police. *adds a new name to the crazy list*
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*gulps down morsel*
Thanks for your kind words, Elorabaen! It's good to see that some people out there actually read my reviews and that the time I invest in them is not wasted. :)
All the best,
EndzeitgeistAs a side note: Dale, I LOVED your "Monsters of the River Kingdoms". Will there be a sequel?
You started writing reviews? When did this happen? :D
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On a complete side note, Dale, I think the whole idea of River Nations was a brilliant one, and one I hope you, and other 3PPs continue to explore. Kudos.Thank you. I really appreciate it. Truth be told, I really wonder why I am the only one that has provided continued support for an AP. Paizo delivers the adventure and a book of setting details, but there's lots more that can be done for each of them. The River Nations experiment was a smashing success and we have plans for more AP support for quite some time yet.
As a side note: Dale, I LOVED your "Monsters of the River Kingdoms". Will there be a sequel?Funny you should mention that. I just sent Jeff Alverez an email (like 5 minutes ago) about when he can expect more themed monsters from JBE. The environment isn't River areas so much but they are useful with a current dark theme.
That would be cool, some support stuff for Carrion Crown.
You started writing reviews? When did this happen? :D
I guess shortly before my total number of reviews left yours behind, coughing up abyssal dust. ;D
I do think the current 3pp group for Pathfinder has a higher average quality than what the average 3pp was for 3E. But of course that's just my opinion.
Absolute 100% total agreement on that. I really believe that the current group of PFRPG publishers have learned what did work, what failed to work and how to successfully build on that. Plus we're creating from our passion and not for a desire for profits (or at least, not as much a desire for profits) which translates into better quality all around.
On a completely random side note, I just wanted to thank Dale for his professional demeanor and attention to detail in his products. I never find anything he says offensive or insensitive and I always find his products, his website, and his posts here and elsewhere well stated and edited.
I've made many dumb comments online. Fortunately, I tend to realize they're dumb within a few minutes of hitting the submit button so I'm able to take it down without many people seeing it. As far as well edited, I have to give credit to my wonderful girlfriend who is my text editor and to Vlad Presnyak who has been exceptional in volunteering his time editing my crunch. Without those two, JBE wouldn't be half the company we are now.
And jreyst is also a real good guy, getting the d20pfsrd site going and the whole crew there for continuing to maintain it. You all are a great crew. So thank you!
Aye. I don't feel as if things are getting crowded, in fact, I feel as if things are just getting revved up. I think what we are finding is that you better provide a high-quality product if you plan to offer in this arena, and I think that is a good thing.
My inclination is to say that we won't see a glut, because a certain level of quality has been set that not everyone can provide.
Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I agree with the bar already set fairly high for quality. I think more people entering 3pp for PFRPG will just likely push the drive up for quality. On the other hand I think if a company starts to let their quality slip I could see them getting left behind in a hurry. I think most of us learned from the 3e days and are more cautious about buying 3pp stuff.McDonalds is also cheap, there ones of the cheapest fastfood. They also market to kids. Plus McDonalds is not that much worse than most fast food places. So it is a matter of quality of similar products.
As for Mongoose, yeah they did put out a lot. Some of it was bad, but some of it was also good. Early Conan stuff was very good for example. The ended up finding their niche and making enough good products that appealed to people.
A key thing to remember is quality is subjective. What one person see's...
Trust her, she's a succubus.
Plus we're creating from our passion and not for a desire for profits (or at least, not as much a desire for profits) which translates into better quality all around.
Please.
Anybody working in this business is working from passion, otherwise they'd be doing something far more rewarding.
But, equally: Anyone IN BUSINESS has a desire for profits, by definition. They're not mutually exclusive -- passion OR profit -- so can we please can the fake populism? Businesses that are run successfully aren't somehow producing less quality than plucky hobbyist amateurs, and it's really insulting to suggest otherwise.
I really believe that the current group of PFRPG publishers have learned what did work, what failed to work and how to successfully build on that. Plus we're creating from our passion and not for a desire for profits (or at least, not as much a desire for profits) which translates into better quality all around.
I'll agree that I consider Dreamscarred Press's 3.5 products to be our "testing the waters" products at this point - seeing what worked, what didn't, where we lacked, where we excelled, etc. And I consider our Pathfinder projects to be leaps and bounds above our 3.5 products, largely because of how new we were to publishing at all.
However, I will say that I am equally motivated by passion and by profits. We've got a baby on the way and need a second car! But, given the market, I know that I can't sacrifice quality and expect to be successful because of the competition out there. And we've already learned some harsh lessons in our first (and currently only) PFRPG product and the quality the fans expect (art budget on Psionics Expanded and Third Dawn Campaign Setting revision are higher than that on Psionics Unleashed is all I'm sayin)
Was that a challenge I heard?
You started counting the reviews. ;)
I'd love to challenge you to a friendly review-off, but my real life is moving to a couple of weeks that have the potential to leave me with little time to write as many reviews as I'd like to.
To cut a long rant short, I wouldn't be much of a competition right now. :)
Btw.: What are you doing next?
Businesses that are run successfully aren't somehow producing less quality than plucky hobbyist amateurs, and it's really insulting to suggest otherwise.
Wasn't trying to be insulting. I was referring to the d20 glut days when some companies produced products that filled a niche simply because no one has done so before. Several publishers/writers I've talked to from that time admit the created it because they felt they could find some niche that no one else was publishing in and make a profit there. And ended up not doing so because they produced something they weren't passionate about it (and thus produced lower quality than what they would otherwise would have produced) and no one was playing in that niche. Most of those companies are out of business now, but the temptation is still there to follow in their foot steps. Unless we learn from the past.
I'm probably also more altruistic in my approach than most. Who knows.
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What does he need to apologize for? Letting people jump to obviously incorrect conclusions based on nothing more than wishful thinking? He made no false claims, made no derogatory comments, and forced no one to part with any money.When I went to bed yesterday I sort of assumed that LMPjr would have seen the negative reaction and worked more on an apology rather than continue with a joke that few seemed to show any support for.
I guess I thought too highly of him.
This. I preordered both Razor Coast and The Anarchist GameMaster CookBook as soon as they were announced (preorders still standing), I had hopes at LPJ's words, and I had a good laugh mostly at my own gullibility when the joke was in the open.
On the other hand, I really don't think that RC is a joke in itself. Lou agresta, a bunch of proofreaders, the Ling9000 (is that the correct codename?) sweated way too much over it to consider it a joke.
I'm not laughing....
On the other hand, I really don't think that RC is a joke in itself. Lou agresta, a bunch of proofreaders, the Ling9000 (is that the correct codename?) sweated way too much over it to consider it a joke.
Close enough, if it's not exactly the name Lou used. ;)
-- THE Ling9000
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Please.
Anybody working in this business is working from passion, otherwise they'd be doing something far more rewarding.
But, equally: Anyone IN BUSINESS has a desire for profits, by definition. They're not mutually exclusive -- passion OR profit -- so can we please can the fake populism? Businesses that are run successfully aren't somehow producing less quality than plucky hobbyist amateurs, and it's really insulting to suggest otherwise.
It's rather like the publishing form of the Stormwind Fallacy.
Your [business/PC build] can't be effective, without sacrificing [passion/roleplaying]...!
If Louis hadn't set this up two days ago, would everyone have still been perturbed? I think it was a good April Fools...
With Razor Coast was gonna be released, but hey no biggy to me.
Thank you. I really appreciate it. Truth be told, I really wonder why I am the only one that has provided continued support for an AP. Paizo delivers the adventure and a book of setting details, but there's lots more that can be done for each of them. The River Nations experiment was a smashing success and we have plans for more AP support for quite some time yet.
You are welcome. 100% agree, and glad to hear it.
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A key thing to remember is quality is subjective. What one person see's as bad someone else might consider as good. Just need enough of the later to support your company.
It's also worth considering that, as far as a player is concerned, most RPG products have to pass through the filter of their GM.
If you buy a car and it's a heap of crap, you know about it.
If your GM buys an adventure, you only know if you had a good time, but not how much of that was the GM's salvage efforts, frantically paddling away below the surface.
Even for the player-centric products (new feats, prestige classes), the enjoyment potential is dependent on the GM buying into the concept as well, and throwing in plot hooks and opportunities to use this material, so the PC can shine in their 15 minutes of fame.
If the GM is uninterested, or hostile, to the player's concept, those opportunities won't happen, or will backfire, killing the fun.
*gulps down morsel*
Thanks for your kind words, Elorabaen! It's good to see that some people out there actually read my reviews and that the time I invest in them is not wasted. :)
All the best,
Endzeitgeist
Hell yea, I read them! You and DM. I have Agresta's blog in my Google Reader, so if I don't catch them here, and I catch them there. Absolutely not wasted. Keep up the great work, both of you.
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I do think it is good enough. But that is just me.Side note as a (non-professional) writer when it comes to quality.
That's part of the reason I put things out on google docs, I don't think my stuff is a high enough quality to pay for :P
Thank you, but when you mix ADD with bouts of depression, the muse comes in fits and starts (Part of the reason I entered RPG superstar is I thought if I won, an external contract would be hopefully a balancing factor).
That said, I'm working on a batch of magic items I'm hoping to put up soon(ish).
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Was that a challenge I heard?You started counting the reviews. ;)
I'd love to challenge you to a friendly review-off, but my real life is moving to a couple of weeks that have the potential to leave me with little time to write as many reviews as I'd like to.
To cut a long rant short, I wouldn't be much of a competition right now. :)
Btw.: What are you doing next?
you are wise to concede defeat. I was going to say WHEN you lose and you would. That you would have to be my new gimp for two weeks.
Some of the ones I got sitting around that I want to get to in the near future is.
Forgotten Encounters: Underground - Purple Duck Games
Fire Magic and Kith of the Harpy Queen - SGG
Inquisitors Edge - Open Design
Moons Folly - Headless Hydra Games
101 9th lvl Spells and Monk Archtypes - Rite Publishing
Secrets of the Staff and Marchen der Daemonwulf - Nercomancers of the Northwest
Road to Revolution 3, 4, 5, and 6 - 0onegames
6 adventures - Frog God Games
I find adventures VERY hard to review, so I keep putting them off, I am way way behind on them.
How about yourself?
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On the other hand, I really don't think that RC is a joke in itself. Lou agresta, a bunch of proofreaders, the Ling9000 (is that the correct codename?) sweated way too much over it to consider it a joke.
I think that is the most frustrating aspect for people. People paid for it, people have contributed blood, sweat, and ink for writing it, and it' out there, it's so much vaporware. That always sucks*
When you add that with the multiple contributers, what the status of the pre-orders is, and who knows what else, it might never see the light of day... It's a real sore subject to joke about
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If Louis hadn't set this up two days ago, would everyone have still been perturbed? I think it was a good April Fools...
With Razor Coast was gonna be released, but hey no biggy to me.
Given his past slams on Sinister Adventures, the general bad feelings about the product, <i>and</i> the building negative comments, he had plenty of time to back down. He didn't.
If he'd come out with a 'Really Contrite' post today, it might have soved some goodwill.
Had it been posted on April 1st it would have been an April Fools joke...Sending it out three days early and stringing people along was just tasteless.
+1
To be honest I personally know nothing about Razor Coast but I agree with this completely. People spent money and invested time into the project. Sending out a teaser three days in advance is just bad taste.
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I'd heard that TSR had a Midnight Sons boxed set lined up when they stopped making the Marvel RPG, and the same thing about West End Games having a Rogue Squadron book when they had their trouble.
A WEG Rogue Squadron book was definitely in the works—Lisa and I ended up buying some of the finished original art that had been commissioned for it.
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I'd heard that TSR had a Midnight Sons boxed set lined up when they stopped making the Marvel RPG, and the same thing about West End Games having a Rogue Squadron book when they had their trouble.A WEG Rogue Squadron book was definitely in the works—Lisa and I ended up buying some of the finished original art that had been commissioned for it.
Of course you did :P
That was one thing I was sad about WotC, they just completely seemed to skip everything between RotJ and the Yustang Vong or however you spell it.
@D_M:
I don't concede defeat, I merely apply Sun Tzu's advice and fight another day. While I'm a left-bearer, I would honored the gimp-bet.
And once we take that up and YOU lose, you'll be my maid for 2 weeks. ;D
Next on my List are:
Dark Oak by Raging Swan
The Sinking by 0onegames (and all the other Great City stuff)
Creepy Creatures by Alluria
Orbs and Blackshire by NWN
Slumbering Tsar II by Frog God
and whatever strikes my fancy in-between. I've been writing RiP 101-spell-reviews and 4Wind Fantasy reviews on the sidelines, but for me, crunch-heavy books are hard to review. Or rather it takes me long to review them.
Not today, though.
That was one thing I was sad about WotC, they just completely seemed to skip everything between RotJ and the Yustang Vong or however you spell it.
*grabs Star Wars Encyclopedia*
Yuuzhan Vong
>.>
You saw nothing!
I always hated the Yuuzhan Vong. Never could bring myself to finish the NJO.
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@D_M:
I don't concede defeat, I merely apply Sun Tzu's advice and fight another day. While I'm a left-bearer, I would honored the gimp-bet.
And once we take that up and YOU lose, you'll be my maid for 2 weeks. ;DNext on my List are:
Dark Oak by Raging Swan
The Sinking by 0onegames (and all the other Great City stuff)
Creepy Creatures by Alluria
Orbs and Blackshire by NWN
Slumbering Tsar II by Frog Godand whatever strikes my fancy in-between. I've been writing RiP 101-spell-reviews and 4Wind Fantasy reviews on the sidelines, but for me, crunch-heavy books are hard to review. Or rather it takes me long to review them.
Not today, though.
I didn't know Sun Tzu's said. Tuck one's tail between one's legs and run like the wind. :D
See I am the opposite, I find crunch heavy books the easier ones to review... well fluff heavy is the easist. But I prefer crunch heavy to adventures. :)
Hey, hey, hey. All this camaraderie is really blocking my view of a perfectly nice train wreck. ;)
Yeah! Can't all that go into another thread titled "Peas, Luv Nstuff" or something?