Orthos |
It's the idea that kids will automatically comply with such orders. As many, many parents have said, "Choose your battles wisely, and win every single one."
When Impus Major was 12 he refused to do his homework. We made him sit in a corner. For hours. He was perfectly happy sitting in a corner doing nothing for 4 hours, then doing straight to bed, because he "won", not having had to do any homework.
Saying, "Just make your kid do xxx," implies that your kid will automatically do what you tell them to do. From personal experience, unless you're willing to resort to physical violence, that's a really optimistic viewpoint.
The idea that kids would refuse like this is baffling to me, but I did grow up in a family that used violence and fear to enforce parental instructions. If I were to pull any of this kind of thing then refuse my parents' commands to clean up or do whatever undone work was demanded a whipping would have only been the start of my punishments, and I was typically too terrified of that and/or whatever might follow to put up much resistance.
There's still a strong part of my brain that takes a while to recognize "oh, not every family has a painful punishment in store for kids who don't do as they're told".
Vanykrye |
207.7. Not where i want to be but still downward progress.
I think I'd personally be pretty happy at that weight. Granted, I'm currently only about 8-10 lbs above that right now, and that's down from the 280-290 that I was at my heaviest.
I have no illusions that I will ever be all the way back down to my high school weight, but I know it's not an actual impossibility.
NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:It's the idea that kids will automatically comply with such orders. As many, many parents have said, "Choose your battles wisely, and win every single one."
When Impus Major was 12 he refused to do his homework. We made him sit in a corner. For hours. He was perfectly happy sitting in a corner doing nothing for 4 hours, then doing straight to bed, because he "won", not having had to do any homework.
Saying, "Just make your kid do xxx," implies that your kid will automatically do what you tell them to do. From personal experience, unless you're willing to resort to physical violence, that's a really optimistic viewpoint.
The idea that kids would refuse like this is baffling to me, but I did grow up in a family that used violence and fear to enforce parental instructions. If I were to pull any of this kind of thing then refuse my parents' commands to clean up or do whatever undone work was demanded a whipping would have only been the start of my punishments, and I was typically too terrified of that and/or whatever might follow to put up much resistance.
There's still a strong part of my brain that takes a while to recognize "oh, not every family has a painful punishment in store for kids who don't do as they're told".
Yeah, I'm sure it's a massively political minefield so I won't get into a discussion beyond, "No matter how well-behaved your kids are in general, there will be occasions where they will not do what you say, period, unless you resort to physical violence against them."
It was a last resort that I personally was unwilling to take.
And in my opinion, my kids grew up just fine in spite of my laxness.
Nylarthotep |
High school weight would, if I only cut fat, would leave me at 1% body fat. Apollo Ohno I am not. But I was a skinny kid in high school.
I would love to be in the 150s again as I was 7 years ago. But anywhere in the 160s is realistic I think and sustainable even in the face of mediocre eating habits facilitated by kids' junk food being readily available.
1.5/week is goal with the understanding that there are reset weeks. I made progress for 4 weeks, last week was something of a reset week but still some progress.
Scintillae |
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NobodysHome wrote:Freehold DM wrote:(Laughs at the non-parent)Mark Hoover 330 wrote:I would have woken them up to clean it.My girls asked to have a sleepover with some friends last night. I agreed, despite quarantine, since I know the kids and their families. My one request was that they don't get too crazy.
Now my home office is in the master bedroom, so I haven't been downstairs since a little after 10 last night when I headed up to bed. When I got down to the kitchen just now to make my morning coffee it looks like a bomb went off.
They apparently decided to make some chicken and cheese dip, in the crock pot, with buffalo sauce in it? How do I know? The crock pot is half full with some yellowy, chickeny crud stuff; half a raw chicken breast is sitting in the Styrofoam on the counter; the buffalo sauce has sat out all night long. This is not to mention the dishes piled in the sink, the half bag of chips laying open, the obvious soda spill that has turned into a sticky mess, and so on.
I spent an hour and a half cleaning the kitchen, breakfast nook and dining room yesterday. Most of that has been completely undone. In one night. It's only 9:10 am where I am, and I've already cycled through stressed, annoyed, disappointed, enraged, and now I'm down to exhausted.
I'm not sure what's laughable here. Its what my parents did. I recall numerous times where I was roughly hauled out of bed to clean up some mess or finish some incomplete chore.
This is by no means intended as an endorsement of such. Just saying there are parents who do that exact thing.
It's like people telling me to "just make" the kids finish their assignments. I can repeat myself and circle their low grades til I'm blue in the face. It's not going to matter to the ones who truly don't care.
Freehold DM |
Nylarthotep wrote:207.7. Not where i want to be but still downward progress.I think I'd personally be pretty happy at that weight. Granted, I'm currently only about 8-10 lbs above that right now, and that's down from the 280-290 that I was at my heaviest.
I have no illusions that I will ever be all the way back down to my high school weight, but I know it's not an actual impossibility.
I would be f~#!ing ecstatic at that weight. If I was at my fighting weight of 195 I would actively try to bring a wife somewhere other than the abscondi-cave.
Nylarthotep |
Vanykrye wrote:I would be f&~@ing ecstatic at that weight. If I was at my fighting weight of 195 I would actively try to bring a wife somewhere other than the abscondi-cave.Nylarthotep wrote:207.7. Not where i want to be but still downward progress.I think I'd personally be pretty happy at that weight. Granted, I'm currently only about 8-10 lbs above that right now, and that's down from the 280-290 that I was at my heaviest.
I have no illusions that I will ever be all the way back down to my high school weight, but I know it's not an actual impossibility.
I am only 5'9" so 168 is my BMI threshold (again, I know that is a bs metric, but it is a starting point for discussion) for being 'overweight.'
And let's be honest, if I was 200 and 15% body fat, i would not be on this windmill tilting. I am more like high 20s body fat.
If I was back at ironman weight of 185 and able to do what I was doing in 2017, I would be okay with it. Still mentally chasing sub 180, but content in knowing that I am in a group of 0.01% of the population (of course, others COULD do, it diluting that number, but they don't).
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:Vanykrye wrote:I would be f&~@ing ecstatic at that weight. If I was at my fighting weight of 195 I would actively try to bring a wife somewhere other than the abscondi-cave.Nylarthotep wrote:207.7. Not where i want to be but still downward progress.I think I'd personally be pretty happy at that weight. Granted, I'm currently only about 8-10 lbs above that right now, and that's down from the 280-290 that I was at my heaviest.
I have no illusions that I will ever be all the way back down to my high school weight, but I know it's not an actual impossibility.
I am only 5'9" so 168 is my BMI threshold (again, I know that is a bs metric, but it is a starting point for discussion) for being 'overweight.'
And let's be honest, if I was 200 and 15% body fat, i would not be on this windmill tilting. I am more like high 20s body fat.
If I was back at ironman weight of 185 and able to do what I was doing in 2017, I would be okay with it. Still mentally chasing sub 180, but content in knowing that I am in a group of 0.01% of the population (of course, others COULD do, it diluting that number, but they don't).
I too am 5'9.
At <190, I started looked very very different and not in a good way. I think I would look very off at 168 lbs. I have a thick build.
Orthos |
Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:It's the idea that kids will automatically comply with such orders. As many, many parents have said, "Choose your battles wisely, and win every single one."
When Impus Major was 12 he refused to do his homework. We made him sit in a corner. For hours. He was perfectly happy sitting in a corner doing nothing for 4 hours, then doing straight to bed, because he "won", not having had to do any homework.
Saying, "Just make your kid do xxx," implies that your kid will automatically do what you tell them to do. From personal experience, unless you're willing to resort to physical violence, that's a really optimistic viewpoint.
The idea that kids would refuse like this is baffling to me, but I did grow up in a family that used violence and fear to enforce parental instructions. If I were to pull any of this kind of thing then refuse my parents' commands to clean up or do whatever undone work was demanded a whipping would have only been the start of my punishments, and I was typically too terrified of that and/or whatever might follow to put up much resistance.
There's still a strong part of my brain that takes a while to recognize "oh, not every family has a painful punishment in store for kids who don't do as they're told".
Yeah, I'm sure it's a massively political minefield so I won't get into a discussion beyond, "No matter how well-behaved your kids are in general, there will be occasions where they will not do what you say, period, unless you resort to physical violence against them."
It was a last resort that I personally was unwilling to take.
And in my opinion, my kids grew up just fine in spite of my laxness.
Oh I definitely agree, from the stories you've told of them. But I know my parents wouldn't. Especially after their response to one of my nieces acting out was to tell my brother that he and my SIL "don't spank her enough". Or maybe just grumbling that to me amongst themselves, I can't remember for certain.
But then that's probably only one tiny part of a massive list of such.
Nylarthotep |
I weighed 135 entering freshman year of college and had finished vertical growing. I look back at photos of senior year of high school and can't fathom being that skinny again.
The following summer I "worked" at philmont and backpacked throughout the sangre de Crista mountains. I put on muscle and was probably the best leanest/strength ratio of life.
Now, I am physically probably stronger than I was then in terms of moving a barbell and plates, but it is nicely marbled with a healthy dose of lard.
I start to look like the quintessential dad bod over 190. I get my baby abs back under 180.
Celestial Healer |
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I weighed 135 entering freshman year of college and had finished vertical growing. I look back at photos of senior year of high school and can't fathom being that skinny again.
Yeah, headed into college I was 140 at 5'11. One thing to remember is that even though you don't grow taller beyond that point, your shoulders continue to widen and you get more bulk in general. That is a healthy weight for an 18 year old perhaps, but would be significantly underweight for a mature man of the same height.
NobodysHome |
Nylarthotep wrote:Yeah, headed into college I was 140 at 5'11. One thing to remember is that even though you don't grow taller beyond that point, your shoulders continue to widen and you get more bulk in general. That is a healthy weight for an 18 year old perhaps, but would be significantly underweight for a mature man of the same height.I weighed 135 entering freshman year of college and had finished vertical growing. I look back at photos of senior year of high school and can't fathom being that skinny again.
I know that for me, strength increase between 18 and 23 was staggering, from barely being able to do 6 pull-ups to doing 100 handstand push-ups a day, and from having trouble hiking with a 45-pound pack to hiking 20 miles with a 65-pound pack.
The sheer difference in strength you get over those years is stupid; you'd expect to gain 20-30 pounds in muscle alone.
NobodysHome |
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Yeah, I obviously raised Impus Major wrong.
He just got home after a 3-hour "walk" where he hung around in a tree thinking about life for over 2 hours of the walk, then said, "Dad! I'm restless! Give me some housework!"
So I sent him into the kitchen and he washed all the dishes and cleaned up the kitchen for me.
He then asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?" before heading down to his room.
Loves me my kids.
Drejk |
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Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:It's the idea that kids will automatically comply with such orders. As many, many parents have said, "Choose your battles wisely, and win every single one."
When Impus Major was 12 he refused to do his homework. We made him sit in a corner. For hours. He was perfectly happy sitting in a corner doing nothing for 4 hours, then doing straight to bed, because he "won", not having had to do any homework.
Saying, "Just make your kid do xxx," implies that your kid will automatically do what you tell them to do. From personal experience, unless you're willing to resort to physical violence, that's a really optimistic viewpoint.
The idea that kids would refuse like this is baffling to me, but I did grow up in a family that used violence and fear to enforce parental instructions. If I were to pull any of this kind of thing then refuse my parents' commands to clean up or do whatever undone work was demanded a whipping would have only been the start of my punishments, and I was typically too terrified of that and/or whatever might follow to put up much resistance.
There's still a strong part of my brain that takes a while to recognize "oh, not every family has a painful punishment in store for kids who don't do as they're told".
Yeah, I'm sure it's a massively political minefield so I won't get into a discussion beyond, "No matter how well-behaved your kids are in general, there will be occasions where they will not do what you say, period, unless you resort to physical violence against them."
It was a last resort that I personally was unwilling to take.
And in my opinion, my kids grew up just fine in spite of my laxness.
I'd dare to say that it would be more of "because of" than "in spite of".
NobodysHome |
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[political but I don't care]
I just got a letter from the Bay Area Air Management Quality District offering me $1200 to junk my 1996 Celica and get a "cleaner-burning, more fuel-efficient car".
Considering that in 2019, SUVs and light trucks made up 70% of the new car market, and my ancient Celica gets over double their fuel economy and has half their emissions, I'm going to give BAAMQD a big "up yours".
I can't wait 'til they try to get me to junk my Prius...
[/political]
EDIT: And in case people are wondering, the Celica still gets 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and passes "passenger car" smog tests with flying colors every other year. (Light trucks and SUVs have much less stringent smog requirements.)
lisamarlene |
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Made it through the first day back from vacation without the kids going full squirrel.
Found a gift for Eve and had it sent.
Did the monthly level meeting with the boss while Hermione was in math tutorials.
Came home and am assembling my only reliable pie, an herbes de provence chicken pie with the chicken and potatoes poached in sauvignon blanc.
I have one more parent conference report to finish up after supper, and then hopefully, WW and I can watch the season opener of Discovery and finish off the wine after we get the kids to sleep.
Tomorrow is not a running day, hoorah.
#pyhrricvictories
Drejk |
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Yeah, I obviously raised Impus Major wrong.
He just got home after a 3-hour "walk" where he hung around in a tree thinking about life for over 2 hours of the walk, then said, "Dad! I'm restless! Give me some housework!"
So I sent him into the kitchen and he washed all the dishes and cleaned up the kitchen for me.
He then asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?" before heading down to his room.
Loves me my kids.
Pervert. You raised a pervert. Cleaning up the kitchen of their own volition? Abomination. You should be ashamed of yourself. And your son.
Drejk |
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[political but I don't care]
I just got a letter from the Bay Area Air Management Quality District offering me $1200 to junk my 1996 Celica and get a "cleaner-burning, more fuel-efficient car".
Considering that in 2019, SUVs and light trucks made up 70% of the new car market, and my ancient Celica gets over double their fuel economy and has half their emissions, I'm going to give BAAMQD a big "up yours".
I can't wait 'til they try to get me to junk my Prius...
[/political]
EDIT: And in case people are wondering, the Celica still gets 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and passes "passenger car" smog tests with flying colors every other year. (Light trucks and SUVs have much less stringent smog requirements.)
You should have read Gorbacz's tirades and snark toward SUV owners on facebook...
Though probably a lot of the fun would be lost in translation.
NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:[political but I don't care]
I just got a letter from the Bay Area Air Management Quality District offering me $1200 to junk my 1996 Celica and get a "cleaner-burning, more fuel-efficient car".
Considering that in 2019, SUVs and light trucks made up 70% of the new car market, and my ancient Celica gets over double their fuel economy and has half their emissions, I'm going to give BAAMQD a big "up yours".
I can't wait 'til they try to get me to junk my Prius...
[/political]
EDIT: And in case people are wondering, the Celica still gets 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and passes "passenger car" smog tests with flying colors every other year. (Light trucks and SUVs have much less stringent smog requirements.)
You should have read Gorbacz's tirades and snark toward SUV owners on facebook...
Though probably a lot of the fun would be lost in translation.
Gorbacz's tirades are always fun, whether or not I can read them...
lisamarlene |
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Damn and blast.
You can't stream the new season of Discovery without CBS All Access, and I refuse to pay for that. Mostly because then I will urge myself to watch much more television to feel I've gotten my money's worth.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Happily, we have all of season twelve of Doctor Who downloaded and ready to go, so we'll start that instead.
Orthos |
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Just what I need right before bed - puppy deciding she doesn't want to come in the house after being let out for her pre-nitenite bathroom break, and instead making Scint and me chase her for five minutes while she zoomies around the yard. Because what I absolutely need just before trying to relax and sleep is to get my heart rate up nice and fast, right?
Vidmaster7 |
[political but I don't care]
I just got a letter from the Bay Area Air Management Quality District offering me $1200 to junk my 1996 Celica and get a "cleaner-burning, more fuel-efficient car".
Considering that in 2019, SUVs and light trucks made up 70% of the new car market, and my ancient Celica gets over double their fuel economy and has half their emissions, I'm going to give BAAMQD a big "up yours".
I can't wait 'til they try to get me to junk my Prius...
[/political]
EDIT: And in case people are wondering, the Celica still gets 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and passes "passenger car" smog tests with flying colors every other year. (Light trucks and SUVs have much less stringent smog requirements.)
IS that political? huh.
gran rey de los mono |
NobodysHome wrote:IS that political? huh.[political but I don't care]
I just got a letter from the Bay Area Air Management Quality District offering me $1200 to junk my 1996 Celica and get a "cleaner-burning, more fuel-efficient car".
Considering that in 2019, SUVs and light trucks made up 70% of the new car market, and my ancient Celica gets over double their fuel economy and has half their emissions, I'm going to give BAAMQD a big "up yours".
I can't wait 'til they try to get me to junk my Prius...
[/political]
EDIT: And in case people are wondering, the Celica still gets 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and passes "passenger car" smog tests with flying colors every other year. (Light trucks and SUVs have much less stringent smog requirements.)
Emissions leads to climate change, and to a lot of people that's politics instead of science. So, in a way, yeah.
gran rey de los mono |
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Just what I need right before bed - puppy deciding she doesn't want to come in the house after being let out for her pre-nitenite bathroom break, and instead making Scint and me chase her for five minutes while she zoomies around the yard. Because what I absolutely need just before trying to relax and sleep is to get my heart rate up nice and fast, right?
Maybe the pupper was trying to tell you a poem? Like Baldrick's poem, only substituting "zoom" for "boom".
gran rey de los mono |
I see what I did wrong. According to the Wikipedia page for the Scoville scale, jalapenos rate at 2,500 - 10,000 units, and serranoes at 10,000 - 25,000. I thought they were hotter than that, which is why I only used 4. I thought they were in the cayenne range, that being 25,000 - 50,000. Also, I just don't think they taste as good. Not bad by any means, I just prefer the flavor of the jalapeno. Poblanos rate at 1,000 - 2,500 units, for the record.