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Scarab Sages

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Drejk wrote:

Wheeee!

I just got news from the friend. He got the computer back from the service. Tomorrow morning he will bring it to me - for giving it a try, he mentioned that eventual payment should be delayed until we are sure it works fine.

Hooray!

EDIT: aw sorry freehold. Im clothed.

Scarab Sages

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Vanykrye wrote:
Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

"So, follow the cord from your mouse to your computer. Do you see where it plugs in?"

"No."
"Did you follow the cord?"
"No; it goes under my desk and I don't want to bend down to go under there..."

THIS SO FREAKING MUCH

YOU CALLED ME FOR HELP.
I KNOW THIS ISSUE.
IT WOULD BE EASY TO FIX IF YOU JUST LISTENED TO ME AND DID THE STEPS AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY

Yep. Every single day.

Our thinclients beep when they reboot. When people claim they have rebooted, I ask them if they beeped twice, because if they did not, something is wrong.

No one pays attention to the beeps.
They say they are unsure.
I lie that we then better reboot again to make sure because if they do not beep twice, something is wrong and that way we know for sure.
People actually reboot.
Problem is solved.

Luckily I get payed well for this.

Scarab Sages

John Napier 698 wrote:
Woran wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

Hello, everyone.

A thunderstorm hit while I was going to work, so now I feel like a sponge. If it wasn't for the fact that it's Friday, I'd be a grouch for the rest of the day.

That sucks. Hope you're warm and dry now.
More or less.

Hope you feel better soon and you'll have a good day.

Scarab Sages

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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

The only thing I know about IT and their frustrations:

*phone rings, tripping the tape recorder playback*

Recording of Roy: Hullo, IT

Caller: I'm having some trouble with my computer

Recording of Roy: Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Caller: no...

Recording of Roy: Try turning it off and on again.

Caller: *delays a few seconds* ok, its back on

Recording of Roy: Did that fix it?

Caller: Yeah it did. Cheers mate!

Seriously, most of my friends are in IT, most of my players, and those who aren't understand tech and programming a million times more than I do. Hopefully all of your Fridays get better!

You got it a bit wrong:

Recording of Roy: Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Caller: no...

Recording of Roy: Try turning it off and on again.

Caller: *delays a few seconds* ok, its back on

Recording of Roy: Did you actually do it?

Caller: What do you mean? Of course I did?

Recording of Roy: Well my server logs right here show that you're still connected, you never lost connectivity, and so you never rebooted.

Caller: Are you calling me a liar?

Recording of Roy: I'm saying that according to the evidence I have that you never rebooted your computer, but you just told me you did. I can't help you if you won't do what I ask you to do.

Caller: <Hangs up and complains to Roy's manager. Roy is forced to physically go to caller's location and reboot the system himself, all while being verbally abused by caller for being an ********>

Direct quote:

"Why do we even HAVE IT if you're just going to send me directions for me to fix it myself?"

Murder.


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So, to sum up: Vany was technically right as he mentioned motherboard as possible problem, though with the length of list of possible explanations of the problems he was likely to be right on one of them.

Woran missed the issue with her picking RAM as the culprit.

I have no idea if John was right or not with him suspecting the capacitor. Neither me nor friend have detailed information of what exactly went wrong with the motherboard. The photo of the service note only lists diagnosis of "faulty (USB)" and "faulty (mainboard)" and repair process of replacing 01LM431 (which is the motherboard), and 01LM253 (which is some sort of "IO board").

Oh, and gray was wrong with his guess of PEBCAK.

No one seemed to suspect USB/IO issue, me included.

Grand Lodge

Vanykrye wrote:

Direct quote:

"Why do we even HAVE IT if you're just going to send me directions for me to fix it myself?"

Were they asked where they would get the directions from if they didn’t have IT?


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Drejk wrote:

So, to sum up: Vany was technically right as he mentioned motherboard as possible problem, though with the length of list of possible explanations of the problems he was likely to be right on one of them.

Woran missed the issue with her picking RAM as the culprit.

I have no idea if John was right or not with him suspecting the capacitor. Neither me nor friend have detailed information of what exactly went wrong with the motherboard. The photo of the service note only lists diagnosis of "faulty (USB)" and "faulty (mainboard)" and repair process of replacing 01LM431 (which is the motherboard), and 01LM253 (which is some sort of "IO board").

Oh, and gray was wrong with his guess of PEBCAK.

No one seemed to suspect USB/IO issue, me included.

It's really, really rare for a bad USB port to cause blue/black screens unless you're using it for your monitor output. I'm willing to bet the USB port was just another symptom of the bad board.

I was with Woran in thinking that a bad RAM stick was the most likely culprit since video drivers seemed to be ruled out. Motherboard was my choice after RAM.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Direct quote:

"Why do we even HAVE IT if you're just going to send me directions for me to fix it myself?"
Were they asked where they would get the directions from if they didn’t have IT?

No, I lost my cool a little with her on that one. I told her she could have Googled her exact wording from the ticket and gotten the same answer and then she wouldn't have had to deal with me or anyone else on my team at all on this issue.


Vanykrye wrote:
Drejk wrote:

So, to sum up: Vany was technically right as he mentioned motherboard as possible problem, though with the length of list of possible explanations of the problems he was likely to be right on one of them.

Woran missed the issue with her picking RAM as the culprit.

I have no idea if John was right or not with him suspecting the capacitor. Neither me nor friend have detailed information of what exactly went wrong with the motherboard. The photo of the service note only lists diagnosis of "faulty (USB)" and "faulty (mainboard)" and repair process of replacing 01LM431 (which is the motherboard), and 01LM253 (which is some sort of "IO board").

Oh, and gray was wrong with his guess of PEBCAK.

No one seemed to suspect USB/IO issue, me included.

It's really, really rare for a bad USB port to cause blue/black screens unless you're using it for your monitor output. I'm willing to bet the USB port was just another symptom of the bad board.

I was with Woran in thinking that a bad RAM stick was the most likely culprit since video drivers seemed to be ruled out. Motherboard was my choice after RAM.

Could the faulty IO board had a short circut that arced to damage the motherboard, or would it rather be the other way, where the motherboard damaged the smaller IO board?

The black screens were almost certainly the motherboard crashes than merely a monitor issue anyway.


I went to that mansion, it's apparently a secret espionage center for bridezillas.

It has directed me to visit some place that isn't showing up on my map (but is on my compass) looks like I'm going to be walking for a while.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I went to that mansion, it's apparently a secret espionage center for bridezillas.

It has directed me to visit some place that isn't showing up on my map (but is on my compass) looks like I'm going to be walking for a while.

Is this still the game, real life Wisconsin, or are you now on the gulf side of Sanibel (Island)? 'Cause this sounds suspiciously like a specific real-life location on Sanibel. I've delivered mail there.


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Medieval English Lasagna

A great channel, and a great recipe. I want to make this, and I shall.


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Overheard today in Eau Claire, Wisconsin:

"Can't wait until the elections are over so this covid crap will disappear."

As reported by my best friend from grade school, so I'm sure she gave the speaker an piece of her mind.


I don't know what a ravenous wendigo is, but it can go f~&~ itself, preferably with something explosive. And not me.


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Damn, it's using me for that.

The explosives haven't helped at all.


Limeylongears wrote:

Medieval English Lasagna

A great channel, and a great recipe. I want to make this, and I shall.

Damn, another neat channel to watch.

That lasagna de fornel he briefly mentions sounds good. I need to remember to watch this channel in-between watching Steve1989* videos.

Edit: * As John noted below, he's the MRE-eating guy.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

Medieval English Lasagna

A great channel, and a great recipe. I want to make this, and I shall.

Damn, another neat channel to watch.

That lasagna de fornel he briefly mentions sounds good. I need to remember to watch this channel in-between watching Steve1989 videos.

Isn't he the one that does the MRE taste tests?


Fallout Rampage Cap'n Yesterday wrote:
I don't know what a ravenous wendigo is, but it can go f+%% itself, preferably with something explosive. And not me.

Isn't it a fuel-chugging RV?


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lisamarlene wrote:

Overheard today in Eau Claire, Wisconsin:

"Can't wait until the elections are over so this covid crap will disappear."

As reported by my best friend from grade school, so I'm sure she gave the speaker an piece of her mind.

I have heard similar sentiments from Certain People. Usually coupled with the assumption of a Trump win in November, and a strong implication if not blatant statement that a Biden win will mean the plague will stick around.


About to go home. Have a good weekend, everyone.


NobodysHome wrote:
Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

The only thing I know about IT and their frustrations:

*phone rings, tripping the tape recorder playback*

Recording of Roy: Hullo, IT

Caller: I'm having some trouble with my computer

Recording of Roy: Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Caller: no...

Recording of Roy: Try turning it off and on again.

Caller: *delays a few seconds* ok, its back on

Recording of Roy: Did that fix it?

Caller: Yeah it did. Cheers mate!

Seriously, most of my friends are in IT, most of my players, and those who aren't understand tech and programming a million times more than I do. Hopefully all of your Fridays get better!

You got it a bit wrong:

Recording of Roy: Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Caller: no...

Recording of Roy: Try turning it off and on again.

Caller: *delays a few seconds* ok, its back on

Recording of Roy: Did you actually do it?

Caller: What do you mean? Of course I did?

Recording of Roy: Well my server logs right here show that you're still connected, you never lost connectivity, and so you never rebooted.

Caller: Are you calling me a liar?

Recording of Roy: I'm saying that according to the evidence I have that you never rebooted your computer, but you just told me you did. I can't help you if you won't do what I ask you to do.

Caller: <Hangs up and complains to Roy's manager. Roy is forced to physically go to caller's location and reboot the system himself, all while being verbally abused by caller for being an ********>

Yeah I would not last long on that job.

me: I'll be right their to assist you *grabs brass knuckle*


Oh! *begins measurement for the "caller"*

Scarab Sages

Vanykrye wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Direct quote:

"Why do we even HAVE IT if you're just going to send me directions for me to fix it myself?"
Were they asked where they would get the directions from if they didn’t have IT?
No, I lost my cool a little with her on that one. I told her she could have Googled her exact wording from the ticket and gotten the same answer and then she wouldn't have had to deal with me or anyone else on my team at all on this issue.

Yeah. I would have lost my cool as well.


Vanykrye wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Direct quote:

"Why do we even HAVE IT if you're just going to send me directions for me to fix it myself?"
Were they asked where they would get the directions from if they didn’t have IT?
No, I lost my cool a little with her on that one. I told her she could have Googled her exact wording from the ticket and gotten the same answer and then she wouldn't have had to deal with me or anyone else on my team at all on this issue.

interesting. It would not have gone that way at my first job. At the second, you would probably never recieved a phone call, let alone a ticket.


Speaking of tickets, guess what I found on my car yesterday! I am fighting this one in court.

But the final indignity yesterday was running afoul of a time limit for a quest in Kingmaker yesteeday. While I was one movement point away from where I needed to be. Instant game over. Thanks for playing. Load an earlier save? No, the rather enthusiastic autosaves are all for the same time period, as are my manual ones. Timer/reminder for the quest? Nope. Just a fancy calendar at the top of the page. It is never mentioned once after a throwaway line in the prologue.

I dropped my controller in disgust. Time limits in a game like this are unwise at best, and truly frustrating considering the number of glitches that I encountered that made telling time with respect to just about anything a trial(failure to load the next screen resulting in going back to the game start/load game page and...what day was it[with respect to how many days left on your quest] before you tried going into that new area? Who knows?) and, oh yeah, a little factor called RESTING/HEALING IN A F+@*ING TABLETOP SIMULATOR RPG WHERE YOUR CHARACTER(S) WILL PERMANENTLY DIE IF YOU RUN OUT OF HIT POINTS MORE THAN ONCE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD! The game also makes it impossible to know where you are on the map without going there first, so there's a little something called exploration that you are going to have to do- and that's not something that works well with a timer feature added. It turns out it is a hot debated topic with respect to the game community, and I am going to reach out to that as well as the other instant game over nonsense lurking within the game. As someone who ran the entire adventure path, they are also upsetting.


Excitement! Lasers! Celebration!

Aaaaannnnnddd...

*sad trombone*

So, the friend drove to me with the computer, yesterday taken from the service. We took it out...

First thing: a small box with RAM stick with "bad" note stuck on it. The service note contained absolutely no reference to it.

We were puzzled and started to worry.

Anyway, we continued taking the computer out when friend noticed something wrong with a corner of the screen (note it's an All-In-One, the whole computer is crammed into a single flat board with screen on one side, not a separate device that can be easily replaced)...

We looked closer.

The corner of the screen was cracked.

The friend is a very calm and composed man but even he was visibly seething from inside...

So, the computer goes back to the servicing while my hopes for having great fun this weekend are crushed like the edge of that screen...

So, the lack of faith that users might show into IT is not completely unfounded.

Ah, well, back to Endless Space...


The computer is already back at the shop.


Jesus christ! What the hell man?!?


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Drejk wrote:


So, the lack of faith that users might show into IT is not completely unfounded.

1) I agree. I know far too many people in IT from multiple companies. There's *always* some idiots that make it in. They make it worse for everyone else because you end up having to fix things 2-3 times and deal with the irate user who is completely justified in those cases.

Or worse, the people on teams that make systemic changes without telling anybody, it breaks a bunch of stuff, and you end up on an outage call and get to listen to the CIO of the company publicly rip the person who made the change.

2) Huh. Bad RAM is there, but the paperwork doesn't mention it...are there serial numbers for the computer on the paperwork? Make sure those match up. Just in case.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Jesus christ! What the hell man?!?

That could refer to so many things.

I mean, not to be a Debbie Downer, but without even going into the clusterf**k of evil that was this week's convention, or the other clusterf**k of evil that was the right's response to Kenosha, the past few days have seen Hurricane Laura, the Mauritius oil spill, oh, and the death of Chadwick Bozeman.

Scarab Sages

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I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(


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Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(

That just made my day. Woran gets cookies.


Vanykrye wrote:
Drejk wrote:


So, the lack of faith that users might show into IT is not completely unfounded.

1) I agree. I know far too many people in IT from multiple companies. There's *always* some idiots that make it in. They make it worse for everyone else because you end up having to fix things 2-3 times and deal with the irate user who is completely justified in those cases.

Or worse, the people on teams that make systemic changes without telling anybody, it breaks a bunch of stuff, and you end up on an outage call and get to listen to the CIO of the company publicly rip the person who made the change.

Of course, when it comes to technical servicing, there is the other side of coin - the technicians themselves have a very limited time to diagnose the problem, so if the problem takes a long time to replicate there is chance they will miss it.

Not this time, though, the physical damage was either the result of careless reassembly (though I am unsure how the tech could miss it afterwards) or more likely, being careless while packing it afterwards to be sent from the service to the shop to await collection by my friend.


Had my first game since all the s+*@ hit the fan in my personal life. The group seemed to enjoy my Fallout Savage Worlds conversion I made a few years back, for what it's worth. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a copy of the GM rules I made, so I had to wing it a little bit.


Freehold DM wrote:

Speaking of tickets, guess what I found on my car yesterday! I am fighting this one in court.

But the final indignity yesterday was running afoul of a time limit for a quest in Kingmaker yesteeday. While I was one movement point away from where I needed to be. Instant game over. Thanks for playing. Load an earlier save? No, the rather enthusiastic autosaves are all for the same time period, as are my manual ones. Timer/reminder for the quest? Nope. Just a fancy calendar at the top of the page. It is never mentioned once after a throwaway line in the prologue.

I dropped my controller in disgust. Time limits in a game like this are unwise at best, and truly frustrating considering the number of glitches that I encountered that made telling time with respect to just about anything a trial(failure to load the next screen resulting in going back to the game start/load game page and...what day was it[with respect to how many days left on your quest] before you tried going into that new area? Who knows?) and, oh yeah, a little factor called RESTING/HEALING IN A F#$!ING TABLETOP SIMULATOR RPG WHERE YOUR CHARACTER(S) WILL PERMANENTLY DIE IF YOU RUN OUT OF HIT POINTS MORE THAN ONCE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD! The game also makes it impossible to know where you are on the map without going there first, so there's a little something called exploration that you are going to have to do- and that's not something that works well with a timer feature added. It turns out it is a hot debated topic with respect to the game community, and I am going to reach out to that as well as the other instant game over nonsense lurking within the game. As someone who ran the entire adventure path, they are also upsetting.

A lot of those extra difficult minutae things can be disabled on the options mode, like dying permanently.


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Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(

Vermont? I don't understand.


Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
Vermont? I don't understand.

Nope. Vermeer.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
Vermont? I don't understand.

No one understands Vermont, that's part of it's "charm".


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Speaking of tickets, guess what I found on my car yesterday! I am fighting this one in court.

But the final indignity yesterday was running afoul of a time limit for a quest in Kingmaker yesteeday. While I was one movement point away from where I needed to be. Instant game over. Thanks for playing. Load an earlier save? No, the rather enthusiastic autosaves are all for the same time period, as are my manual ones. Timer/reminder for the quest? Nope. Just a fancy calendar at the top of the page. It is never mentioned once after a throwaway line in the prologue.

I dropped my controller in disgust. Time limits in a game like this are unwise at best, and truly frustrating considering the number of glitches that I encountered that made telling time with respect to just about anything a trial(failure to load the next screen resulting in going back to the game start/load game page and...what day was it[with respect to how many days left on your quest] before you tried going into that new area? Who knows?) and, oh yeah, a little factor called RESTING/HEALING IN A F#$!ING TABLETOP SIMULATOR RPG WHERE YOUR CHARACTER(S) WILL PERMANENTLY DIE IF YOU RUN OUT OF HIT POINTS MORE THAN ONCE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD! The game also makes it impossible to know where you are on the map without going there first, so there's a little something called exploration that you are going to have to do- and that's not something that works well with a timer feature added. It turns out it is a hot debated topic with respect to the game community, and I am going to reach out to that as well as the other instant game over nonsense lurking within the game. As someone who ran the entire adventure path, they are also upsetting.

A lot of those extra difficult minutae things can be disabled on the options mode, like dying permanently.

its not that, it's the mindset behind putting a quest timer in an exploration based game where you don't know where anything is. You blunder across things by accident, and have no way of knowing what is pertinent from what isn't until it happens.

Even a f!!#ing countdown clock in the upper right hand corner would have helped. Or labeled locations of where important quest things are on the map. But no.

Also, rushing through things at level one? Incredibly stupid.


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I had to give up on Kingmaker (the video game), as it was annoying me too much. I didn't really give a damn about the kingdom management, but couldn't work out how to turn it off, though apparently it is possible.

Scarab Sages

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lisamarlene wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
That just made my day. Woran gets cookies.

Yay! Cookies!

Scarab Sages

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Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
Vermont? I don't understand.
Nope. Vermeer.

The milkmaid by vermeer


Limeylongears wrote:
I had to give up on Kingmaker (the video game), as it was annoying me too much. I didn't really give a damn about the kingdom management, but couldn't work out how to turn it off, though apparently it is possible.

words cannot encapsulate my disappointment at this game. It really played like baldurs gate(well, Icewind Dale for me really), and I could make my own characters and run the kingmaker game like never before. But that clearly isn't what the developers had in mind.


Woran wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
Vermont? I don't understand.
Nope. Vermeer.
The milkmaid by vermeer

i would gladly go to your museum to enjoy this milkmaid.


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Woran wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
I tried googeling milkmaids for freehold to cheer him up, but being dutch all my hits are of Vermeer :(
Vermont? I don't understand.
Nope. Vermeer.
The milkmaid by vermeer

Get your fancy Dutch artists outta here! We're talking VERMEER!

Scarab Sages

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I feel that we can both artistically combine them.
Maybe with some help of captain yesterday.


An...electronic milkmaid? Hmm...


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Freehold DM wrote:
An...electronic milkmaid? Hmm...

"Do Android Freeholds Dream of Electronic Milkmaids"? Hmm...


Our severely demented neighbor across the street, Cathryn, had a really lucid day two days ago... she was out on her lawn chatting amiably with my inlaws from across the road as we all visited in our own yard.
We never saw her yesterday; usually she is out in her carport, screaming in her hallucinations multiple times a day until her husband brings her back inside.
Today was also quiet, but there are five cars out front instead of just Carl's Mustang, as is normal.
So often, they have one really good, lucid day right before the end, and I'm wondering if Cathryn is gone.
I mean, gone gone. She's been gone for a long time.

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