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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I went to the park to play Frisbee with my dog today. It was terrible. I need a flatter, more circular dog.

You're going to really freak out the guitarist from Blink 182.

Edit: My reply to your comment time-traveled to before you'd even made your comment! MWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Edit 2: Nekkid freak out?! MWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
This is b@#$+@#~. I went to McDonald's and order "two large fries" and they gave me a whole bunch of little ones.

It's a kit. You have to assemble the large fries yourself out of the fry pieces.


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Internet Explorer FTW.


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I went to the park to play Frisbee with my dog today. It was terrible. I need a flatter, more circular dog.


Another Dang Hippeh wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
This is b@#$+@#~. I went to McDonald's and order "two large fries" and they gave me a whole bunch of little ones.
It's a kit. You have to assemble the large fries yourself out of the fry pieces.

No can do. I was taught not to play with my food.

Also, put on some pants.


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Nigel Tufnel, Guitar Wizard wrote:
Edit: My reply to your comment time-traveled to before you'd even made your comment! MWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Time is a flat circle. Like a UFO dog flying across the park.


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~laughter~ This is stolen from reddit on the "How do Earthquake-prone areas like California deal with buried fiber?" thread.

How does a network engineer who is lost in the woods get help?

Bury some fiber and wait for a backhoe to show up. (To cut the fiber)


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Yay! American Horror Story Apocalypse is on Netflix/Hulu!

Scarab Sages

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Now that I think about it, its def not flu. When I have the flu I get joint pain and get delirious during the night.

Now its just snot, a sore throat, and fever. Although the snot has lessened considerably.


gran rey de los mono wrote:

Formula D league was tonight. We finished the Elkhart Lake race. In the first half of the race, 3 of the 10 starters crashed. Tonight 5 more crashed. Only 2 cars actually crossed the finish line. And mine was the second. I was in 7th place, and 5 of the cars ahead of me crashed out as I slowly puttered around the track nursing my seriously damaged engine for 2 laps. By the end of the race, there were 31 pieces of debris on the field, which is insane since most races have maybe 12 to 15 pieces.

Hopefully the next race (on the Detroit track) will be less of a demolition derby.

wha?


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Woran wrote:

Now that I think about it, its def not flu. When I have the flu I get joint pain and get delirious during the night.

Now its just snot, a sore throat, and fever. Although the snot has lessened considerably.

I'm glad you are feeling better. I am also feeling better, although I still feel like I was coming down with SOMETHING.


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Last day at the feng shui hole!


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Be careful. That's load-bearing chi.


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It's always sad when an author or authors come up with something truly remarkable, but then seriously lessen its impact because they (or their sponsors) insist on adhering to expected norms.

The Ancient Magus' Bride is at its best when there are no antagonists at all; just the story of a young woman's emotional growth and the similar growth of an inhuman who believes he is incapable of empathy, yet surrounds himself with broken creatures who are drawn to him. (And yes, it reminds me much of Impus Major and his amazing tendency to attract emotionally unstable friends because they see him as an anchor in their inner storms.)

And yet, for some inexplicable reason, the authors throw in antagonists. They detract from the story. They're annoying. Pretty much every episode with an antagonist is a major letdown from the rest of the series. And overall it takes the series from "great" to "pretty good".

Season 2 Spoiler:
Even worse is the end of Season 2, where they make it clear that not only are they going to have bad guys, but they're going to be recurring villains because every anime needs a recurring villain.

FFS.

I just get very frustrated. "You were making something beautiful and different, and possibly unique. And then you had to throw in fights and bad guys, because anime. No! Bad author! No biscuit."

Violet Evergarden has no antagonists. And ends up being a significantly better series because of it. The Ancient Magus' Bride could have done the same, and it would have been a MUCH better series, in my mind.


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Not a fan of Violet Evergarden, but I cannot deny it is good, and has inspired some AMAZING cosplay.

Grand Lodge

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I gotta sit down and watch Fullmetal Saber sometime. Ancient Magus Bride is brilliant and I totally agree with the criticism.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I gotta sit down and watch Fullmetal Saber sometime. Ancient Magus Bride is brilliant and I totally agree with the criticism.

interesting.

Very interesting.


Freehold DM wrote:
Not a fan of Violet Evergarden, but I cannot deny it is good, and has inspired some AMAZING cosplay.

Yeah, Shiro's son LOVED it. I found it... watchable.

Except Episode 10.

I mean... f***************...

Episode 10.

You know the one I mean.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Not a fan of Violet Evergarden, but I cannot deny it is good, and has inspired some AMAZING cosplay.

Yeah, Shiro's son LOVED it. I found it... watchable.

Except Episode 10.

I mean... f***************...

Episode 10.

You know the one I mean.

yup.


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Client IT Rep #1 to our Operations person: You aren't allowed to print from that system.

Client IT Higher Ranking Person to the same Operations person on our side: Yes, you can, and you need to tell IT Rep #1 that I said so.

Operations person calls us: This person said we can, this person said we can't, and here's their phone numbers. Can you call them and get this straightened out?

Wait...so you want us to call their IT people to tell them to talk to each other? Are they incapable of calling each other? Do they frequently need outside companies to inform each other of policies?

Scarab Sages

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Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:

Now that I think about it, its def not flu. When I have the flu I get joint pain and get delirious during the night.

Now its just snot, a sore throat, and fever. Although the snot has lessened considerably.

I'm glad you are feeling better. I am also feeling better, although I still feel like I was coming down with SOMETHING.

Still no energy and still have a fever. But at least the pressure on my head has lessened.


Hello, everyone!


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Hi


Gods, WHY do I have to use Microsoft at work?!?!?!

Yep. Got a mandatory Windows Update.

Yep. It re-enabled wireless. Because messing with user settings is what Windows Update does best.

Yep. VPN went nuts because of the weak wireless signal and wouldn't let me connect to anything until I'd re-disabled wireless, which was awfully hard with the constant "Connected to wireless/disconnected from wireless" messages popping up in the corner and blocking my access to the frigging button. (And yes, I know network settings are available in Control Panels, but as of Windows 10 finding the correct control panel on my machine is an effort in and of itself. Because controlling your machine isn't what Windows wants you to do.)

SOOOOO frustrating!

Just leave my settings alone, Microsoft!


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So, can anyone look at this picture and NOT think of a wolf in sheep's clothing?


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NobodysHome wrote:

Gods, WHY do I have to use Microsoft at work?!?!?!

Yep. Got a mandatory Windows Update.

Yep. It re-enabled wireless. Because messing with user settings is what Windows Update does best.

Yep. VPN went nuts because of the weak wireless signal and wouldn't let me connect to anything until I'd re-disabled wireless, which was awfully hard with the constant "Connected to wireless/disconnected from wireless" messages popping up in the corner and blocking my access to the frigging button. (And yes, I know network settings are available in Control Panels, but as of Windows 10 finding the correct control panel on my machine is an effort in and of itself. Because controlling your machine isn't what Windows wants you to do.)

SOOOOO frustrating!

Just leave my settings alone, Microsoft!

I'm not a fan of the Win 10 Settings panels and organization either. However, you can get to the Win 7 style Control Panel through the search bar in the lower left. Just type "control panel" and it'll come up.


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Gods, WHY do I have to use Microsoft at work?!?!?!

Yep. Got a mandatory Windows Update.

Yep. It re-enabled wireless. Because messing with user settings is what Windows Update does best.

Yep. VPN went nuts because of the weak wireless signal and wouldn't let me connect to anything until I'd re-disabled wireless, which was awfully hard with the constant "Connected to wireless/disconnected from wireless" messages popping up in the corner and blocking my access to the frigging button. (And yes, I know network settings are available in Control Panels, but as of Windows 10 finding the correct control panel on my machine is an effort in and of itself. Because controlling your machine isn't what Windows wants you to do.)

SOOOOO frustrating!

Just leave my settings alone, Microsoft!

I'm not a fan of the Win 10 Settings panels and organization either. However, you can get to the Win 7 style Control Panel through the search bar in the lower left. Just type "control panel" and it'll come up.

Thanks! Handy tip.

But still, changing user settings is something OSes SHOULD NOT DO. Yet both iOS on my iDevices and Windows 10 routinely re-enable wireless. Because who in their right mind disables wireless?

I do. (Though the right mind part is arguable.)


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On the kitchen table were three grocery lists, each slightly different but with several common items.

So I grabbed all three and see how I do.

Of course the real challenge will be finding pepitos, whatever those are.


NobodysHome wrote:

So, can anyone look at this picture and NOT think of a wolf in sheep's clothing?

one of my favorite monsters redeemed.

And yes, in order for it to work on me it would have to look like a rare publication of adult material.


captain yesterday wrote:

On the kitchen table were three grocery lists, each slightly different but with several common items.

So I grabbed all three and see how I do.

Of course the real challenge will be finding pepitos, whatever those are.

Aren't they small Mexican children?


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captain yesterday wrote:

On the kitchen table were three grocery lists, each slightly different but with several common items.

So I grabbed all three and see how I do.

Of course the real challenge will be finding pepitos, whatever those are.

Pepsi flavoured Doritos.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Last day at the feng shui hole!

{writes down "Feng Shui Hole" on list of Spinal Tap song ideas}

Limeylongears wrote:
Be careful. That's load-bearing chi.

{also adds "Load-Bearing Chi" to list}


captain yesterday wrote:

On the kitchen table were three grocery lists, each slightly different but with several common items.

So I grabbed all three and see how I do.

Of course the real challenge will be finding pepitos, whatever those are.

Is it pepitas? Those are roasted pumpkin seeds, typically tossed in a little chili powder, cumin, and lime juice.


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Vanykrye wrote:

Client IT Rep #1 to our Operations person: You aren't allowed to print from that system.

Client IT Higher Ranking Person to the same Operations person on our side: Yes, you can, and you need to tell IT Rep #1 that I said so.

Operations person calls us: This person said we can, this person said we can't, and here's their phone numbers. Can you call them and get this straightened out?

Wait...so you want us to call their IT people to tell them to talk to each other? Are they incapable of calling each other? Do they frequently need outside companies to inform each other of policies?

The punishment for demonstrating competency in one task is other people will attempt to delegate more tasks to you.


I bet NH works for Google. He conveniently makes no comments about Android, only Apple and Windows, is a fan of Linux, lives near Silicon Valley, and probably knows my address and porn preferences.

...and the irony of them using Windows makes me giggle uncontrollably.


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Nigel Tufnel, Guitar Wizard wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Last day at the feng shui hole!

{writes down "Feng Shui Hole" on list of Spinal Tap song ideas}

Limeylongears wrote:
Be careful. That's load-bearing chi.
{also adds "Load-Bearing Chi" to list}

I think those would be much better band names.

"I just saw Load-Bearing Chi open for Feng Shui Hole at the Civic Center. Tickets were like $8 which is crazy good for Buddhist Metal."


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It's "wear your best outfit" at school tomorrow so Crookshanks is wearing what she usually wears, with a black tie.


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Need parenting advice.

Hermione is supposed to have her first sleepover at our house Thursday night. (No school on Friday because it's the opening day of the State Fair of Texas. We don't have Veteran's Day off, but we have Fair Day off. Seriously.)

BUT.

The kids' room has been an utter pigsty for over a week now, and when we had a lot of folks with kids come over for WW's big party on Saturday, we kept their room locked and they couldn't take their friends in there to play with legos or anything because it was too messy.

And I told Hermione that if it wasn't clean by the time we leave for school tomorrow morning, she had to go to her friend's mom (who is also on the faculty, as is her dad) and explain that the sleepover couldn't happen because of the mess.

It was still messy when the kids went to bed tonight, so they'll have about half an hour to finish up before breakfast tomorrow.

WW thinks we should just do the "throwing everything still on the floor into a box and taking it to Goodwill" thing. I don't think that will make a difference... mostly because it's so messy most of the time, it's like they've already lost the toys and books, so they won't know what they are missing.

Then I told the kids that, if it's still messy when it's time to leave for choir practice after dinner tomorrow, I will take our tickets with me, give them to our pastor, and tell him to give them to one of the families who gets the free grocery boxes from our church.

Val actually shrugged and said, "Oh, I don't care, we can never afford to do all the rides anyway, we just walk around looking at stuff."

Little s**t.

Help?


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Snipping quite a bit...

lisamarlene wrote:
Hermione is supposed to have her first sleepover at our house Thursday night...BUT...I told Hermione that if it wasn't clean by the time we leave for school tomorrow morning, she had to go to her friend's mom (who is also on the faculty, as is her dad) and explain that the sleepover couldn't happen because of the mess.

So, you specified an action that she needed to take, and a punishment that she would receive if she didn't take that action. So you have to follow through and execute on that.

lisamarlene wrote:
WW thinks we should just do the "throwing everything still on the floor into a box and taking it to Goodwill" thing.

Was that ever listed to them as a potential consequence? Because if not, it seems like an arbitrary, "Dad is angry and is being mean to us for no reason," moment. The point is consistency. "I said that if you don't do xxx, you will suffer yyy. Now I am following through on exactly what I said I would do.

lisamarlene wrote:
Then I told the kids that, if it's still messy when it's time to leave for choir practice after dinner tomorrow, I will take our tickets with me, give them to our pastor, and tell him to give them to one of the families who gets the free grocery boxes from our church.

I am *so* guilty of this it's not even funny, but it's escalation before the original time limit ran out. "You have this long to do this."

"Oh, wait, time's running out so I'm upping the stakes."
It's easy as an outside to see that that's what you're doing and that the kids will perceive it as unfair and vindictive, but holy carp I've been there and I know what it's like when they're just ignoring you and you feel that the only way to get them going is to keep upping the stakes until they act.

It's LOTS harder, but, "I need you to do this partial step by this point in time or xxx will happen," is STILL very effective on Impus Major.

Quote:

Val actually shrugged and said, "Oh, I don't care, we can never afford to do all the rides anyway, we just walk around looking at stuff."

Little s**t.

OK. That's just messed up. I'd take his tickets just for that, 'cause sometimes vindictiveness is earned.

Help?


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lisamarlene wrote:

Need parenting advice.

Hermione is supposed to have her first sleepover at our house Thursday night. (No school on Friday because it's the opening day of the State Fair of Texas. We don't have Veteran's Day off, but we have Fair Day off. Seriously.)

BUT.

The kids' room has been an utter pigsty for over a week now, and when we had a lot of folks with kids come over for WW's big party on Saturday, we kept their room locked and they couldn't take their friends in there to play with legos or anything because it was too messy.

And I told Hermione that if it wasn't clean by the time we leave for school tomorrow morning, she had to go to her friend's mom (who is also on the faculty, as is her dad) and explain that the sleepover couldn't happen because of the mess.

It was still messy when the kids went to bed tonight, so they'll have about half an hour to finish up before breakfast tomorrow.

WW thinks we should just do the "throwing everything still on the floor into a box and taking it to Goodwill" thing. I don't think that will make a difference... mostly because it's so messy most of the time, it's like they've already lost the toys and books, so they won't know what they are missing.

Then I told the kids that, if it's still messy when it's time to leave for choir practice after dinner tomorrow, I will take our tickets with me, give them to our pastor, and tell him to give them to one of the families who gets the free grocery boxes from our church.

Val actually shrugged and said, "Oh, I don't care, we can never afford to do all the rides anyway, we just walk around looking at stuff."

Little s**t.

Help?

I think you picked a battle and you need to stand your ground. If you don't, you know the longer-term ramifications.

Hermione will have to talk to the parents and own up to the reason the sleepover isn't going to happen.

Val...well...he probably actually does care. Boys get to a certain age and are suddenly very good (and simultaneously quite terrible) at being defensive and saying they don't care about stuff they actually care about. So give the tickets away.

You may just end up saying no to absolutely everything they come up with that they want to do, including anything remotely resembling entertainment. No, you can't watch TV. No, you can't go to Suzie's house. No you can't go to Billy's. No Pathfinder. Because your room isn't clean.

But...my experience and advice comes with this caveat...none of the children I have had a hand in raising are actually my own (but do not test my resolve to defend them with my life), and I've inherited all of them at no younger than 10. The Adult Kid was 12 when Aiymi and I got together. Zelda's kids were 10, 13, and 16. It's a different skill set and thought process.

That's at least my take from the cheap seats in the stands.


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Just follow through on your words to the letter.

Kids are smarter than people give them credit, and if you say a punishment will happen, and it doesn't, they will question future threats.

I probably would've been a lot better behaved if my mom kept me grounded for as long as she threatened. But two weeks of me whining was a lot harder to take than about three days. I learned Mom's threats had wiggle room.

Meanwhile, my dad...well he broke my Nintendo in front of me when I didn't clean it up for the umpteenth time, just like he said he would. You can bet my Super Nintendo didn't EVER have the controllers out, by comparison.

The point is your word should be iron clad, and you should never make idle threats you're not prepared to follow through on.

Frankly, not only would I give away tickets, I would throw in "write a letter to the other family saying you hope they had a good time, and to please tell you how they enjoyed it so you get the pleasure of realizing exactly how they helped someone else." Cancelling the sleepover is also necessary, possibly with a letter to the friend's parents by Hermione of apology for changing plans last minute because she was irresponsible.

Nothing like a reply letter to hammer the nails in the coffin of "clean your damn room."

My kid may be on the way, but I taught for multiple years, was an an actively involved uncle for 11 (more active than the kids' shitty apathetic negligent mother), and have a degree in psychology - useless in job hunting, useful in non paid roles - and my favorite classes were aging and behavior modification. If I know anything it's child behavior.

I don't like having to pat my own back like that, but I'm used to parents writing off my opinion just because I know what birth control is. Apparently wisdom in prevention doesn't translate to wisdom in execution among those folks.


About to clock out. Good night, everyone.


NobodysHome wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Gods, WHY do I have to use Microsoft at work?!?!?!

Yep. Got a mandatory Windows Update.

Yep. It re-enabled wireless. Because messing with user settings is what Windows Update does best.

Yep. VPN went nuts because of the weak wireless signal and wouldn't let me connect to anything until I'd re-disabled wireless, which was awfully hard with the constant "Connected to wireless/disconnected from wireless" messages popping up in the corner and blocking my access to the frigging button. (And yes, I know network settings are available in Control Panels, but as of Windows 10 finding the correct control panel on my machine is an effort in and of itself. Because controlling your machine isn't what Windows wants you to do.)

SOOOOO frustrating!

Just leave my settings alone, Microsoft!

I'm not a fan of the Win 10 Settings panels and organization either. However, you can get to the Win 7 style Control Panel through the search bar in the lower left. Just type "control panel" and it'll come up.

Thanks! Handy tip.

But still, changing user settings is something OSes SHOULD NOT DO. Yet both iOS on my iDevices and Windows 10 routinely re-enable wireless. Because who in their right mind disables wireless?

I do. (Though the right mind part is arguable.)

Besides anyone who has good cable connection?

Scarab Sages

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Ah, the joys of being ill. You think you're doing pretty good, untill you try and do anything else then sitting on your ass, and then you're like 'nope'.


I hope that you feel better soon, Woran. Same thing for you Freehold DM.


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If you give your kids an ultimatum to clean their room they'll NEVER clean their room.

The fact that at some point in history that actually works is the greatest myth of parenting.

The only reason to tell them to clean their room is if you need an hour of peace, because as soon as you say "Go clean your room!" They'll disappear.

No, sorry, but the only way their room is getting clean is if you do it yourself loudly enough that they feel guilty for you cleaning their room so that eventually when they're over 25 they'll clean their own apartment or house.


I feel the need to clarify that when I said "these folks" above I did not mean the good readers and participators of FaWtL, who are unusually open minded compared to the general population. I meant the close minded jackasses I mentioned. I don't want another accidental foot in my mouth. My jaw hurts enough.


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captain yesterday wrote:

If you give your kids an ultimatum to clean their room they'll NEVER clean their room.

The fact that at some point in history that actually works is the greatest myth of parenting.

The only reason to tell them to clean their room is if you need an hour of peace, because as soon as you say "Go clean your room!" They'll disappear.

No, sorry, but the only way their room is getting clean is if you do it yourself loudly enough that they feel guilty for you cleaning their room so that eventually when they're over 25 they'll clean their own apartment or house.

...I cleaned my room when I got an ultimatum.


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Scintillae wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

If you give your kids an ultimatum to clean their room they'll NEVER clean their room.

The fact that at some point in history that actually works is the greatest myth of parenting.

The only reason to tell them to clean their room is if you need an hour of peace, because as soon as you say "Go clean your room!" They'll disappear.

No, sorry, but the only way their room is getting clean is if you do it yourself loudly enough that they feel guilty for you cleaning their room so that eventually when they're over 25 they'll clean their own apartment or house.

...I cleaned my room when I got an ultimatum.

Every kid is different.

Cutting the kids' allowances unless they kept their rooms clean had no effect whatsoever.

Impus Major finally decided that I did too much work around the house and felt really bad about everything I did for him, so he started cleaning his room as a favor to me.

For Impus Minor, I started cleaning his room every day, then stopped. He decided he really liked having a clean room, and so since I wasn't doing it he started doing it himself.

And I'm sure those methods wouldn't work with any other kids.

It's just an 18-year quest to figure out what works for your particular kid.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

If you give your kids an ultimatum to clean their room they'll NEVER clean their room.

The fact that at some point in history that actually works is the greatest myth of parenting.

The only reason to tell them to clean their room is if you need an hour of peace, because as soon as you say "Go clean your room!" They'll disappear.

No, sorry, but the only way their room is getting clean is if you do it yourself loudly enough that they feel guilty for you cleaning their room so that eventually when they're over 25 they'll clean their own apartment or house.

...I cleaned my room when I got an ultimatum.

Every kid is different.

Wisest words on the topic yet.

It's not about getting them to obey. It's about getting them to WANT to do it themselves.

Me, I was all about getting paid, so money was an excellent motivator. But I am also a little neater than most, so it didnt take much to get me into a weekly cleaning schedule.

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