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... Huh. Must be some nasty stuff in there, if it managed to put that much of a ding into Team Evil. I mean, even Xykon is looking a bit worse for wear there. God help the Order for when they get there.
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Possible continuity error in last panel? Xykon goes in barefoot and comes out wearing shoes.
Even if Rich meant for him to have boots on the whole time, why would he? He's a Lich; it's not like there's some kind of sensitivity there.
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Hmmm, I wonder if the MitD subconsciously used a power to pick the wrong door.
I get the impression that he is intentionally picking the wrong door.
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Maybe Xykon picked up some new magic boots in there.
I doubt if Monster-san has any more clue than anyone else of which door is the one they're looking for. How would he?
Edit: And now that I wrote that, I feel like my "How would he?" comment should be followed by "Dun Dun DUN!!!"
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Maybe Xykon picked up some new magic boots in there.
I doubt if Monster-san has any more clue than anyone else of which door is the one they're looking for. How would he?
Good point. Also..."Dun Dun DUN?!"
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"Mass Cure Critical Wounds?" Shouldn't Xykon be saying "Ouch!" there?
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You can see his eyes. Besides, Rich hasn't enforced that rule in the past—Xykon targeted him with a very potentially important spell in Start of Darkness.
Redclock is healing himself.
Oh, and we can't see Redcloak's feet—it's likely he's wearing shoes, likely provided him by Oona. Note the similar style between his shoes and Oona's. Redcloak might go barefoot in the snow, and Oona might, since both have access to weather endurance magics, but all the bugbears have the same "feet". It's possible all the masks grant an Endure Elements effect (though we don't actually know if even Oona's does—all we know is that the fur itself is cold resistant), but I sort of doubt it.
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OTOH, the mass buff spells earlier didn't touch Oona or Greyview, if we're just going by the visual - and there seems little reason to leave them out then."Mass Cure Critical Wounds?" Shouldn't Xykon be saying "Ouch!" there?Look closely at the art on that. It doesn't touch him, unlike the mass buff spells earlier. He wasn't one of the spells targets.
Notably, it doesn't seem to touch Monster-san, either.
The visuals still went in their direction, while Mass CCW's visuals clearly avoid Xykon. Which kind of makes sense ;-)
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I note with interest that Xykon is of the special snowflake team (interesting is best), while Redcloak is a munchkin (efficient is best)
Xykon is CE and deathless. Redcloak is LE and mortal.
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I note with interest that Xykon is of the special snowflake team (interesting is best), while Redcloak is a munchkin (efficient is best)Xykon is CE and deathless. Redcloak is LE and mortal.
Undead can still be destroyed. BTW did they recover the phylactery ? I guess not since Redcloak is still missing his eye
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They did recover the phylactery. Redcloak prepared and gave a fake phylactery to Zykon and kept the real phylactery in his possession.
As soon as the phylactery was recovered, they moved on from Azure City.
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And Redcloak isn't allowed to get that eye back. "...I'll shove one into the other..."
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They did recover the phylactery. Redcloak prepared and gave a fake phylactery to Zykon and kept the real phylactery in his possession.
As soon as the phylactery was recovered, they moved on from Azure City.
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... Huh. Must be some nasty stuff in there, if it managed to put that much of a ding into Team Evil. I mean, even Xykon is looking a bit worse for wear there. God help the Order for when they get there.
Hmmm, I wonder if the MitD subconsciously used a power to pick the wrong door.
Xykon goes in barefoot and comes out wearing shoes.
I was about to post any of those three and you all beat me to the punch!
You are all nerds that nobody likes!
;P
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New strip!
#1041 Value of an Independent Variable
Makes me wonder if this is the first time the MitD has done this.
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Almost certainly not.
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Makes me wonder if this is the first time the MitD has done this.
Clever, monster-san.
This begs to me is that are just are making assumptions about MitD.
Xykon doesn't seem care as long as they diving into the search and finding new ways to kill things. And probably thinks Mitd is too stupid.
Oona might notice, but doesn't care as long as they get to keep fighting things.
Redcloak is the one I assume must not be paying attention. As detail oriented as he's been in the past to not track the doors (even if they are picked at random) seems unusually careless of him.
And on a side note: "Have bitter fruit of eternal despair" made me crack-up. That is one nihilist dire wolf.
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And on a side note: "Have bitter fruit of eternal despair" made me crack-up. That is one nihilist dire wolf.
*worg*
If MitD marks 4 or 5 doors for each day they go dungeon delving, there is a good chance that he marks the real door as explored. But there is also the chance that his tactic backfires and ends up pushing the group towards the real door more quickly.
Which better suits the narrative?
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*worg* - Which better suits the narrative?
OK - that is one nihilist worg.
If one assumes that Rich wants conveyed that Team Evil is supposed to be delayed until the Order arrives at the gate, then it's probably the former chance that applies.
The whole notion seems to convey to the audience that while the Order is on the dwarven side-quest-that-isn't-side-quest/character development arc, in the general storyline the threat of the villains capturing the "prize" is not going to happen due a combination of the dungeon's sheer size; power of the guardian beasts; and some sabotage. Not to take away from the fun with Team Evil, but the whole idea would be to imply that the villains don't stay static anymore than the heroes do in the overall narrative (something that was implied as what happened during the Azure City occupation).
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Xykon is CE and deathless. Redcloak is LE and mortal.
The Bearer of the Crimson Mantle does not age physically according to SoD. Redcloak is at least 54 years old (intro bonus content in War and XP says he was 54 at the time, which would make him either 54 or 55 now, I forget the in-comic time-table,) making him very old for a normal goblin.
(Redcloak has shown hypocrisy concerning how "natural" he is, given that he claims to be a 100% natural goblin to distinguish himself from Miko and Xykon, even though Redcloak also has his life magically extended.)
I know Redcloak is ageless. What I mean is that if you stab him, he feels pain. If you stab him a lot, he will die. Those are bad outcomes for him.
In comparison, Xykon can't die. The worst case for him (as far as he knows) is he wakes up in his Astral fortress. And as an undead, he probably doesn't feel pain. (He's certainly aware of injury, but that doesn't necessarily equate to pain, if that makes sense.)
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Makes me wonder if this is the first time the MitD has done this.
Almost certainly not.
Actually, based on the fact that the MitD asked for the paint here, I'm guessing this is the first time that he's been able to pull this particular trick. Of course, he may have been doing other things to slow them down, like holding back in combat (although he does seem to have trouble pulling his punches).
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I doubt if Monster-san has any more clue than anyone else of which door is the one they're looking for. How would he?
The fact that the MitD marked several doors seems to confirm this; if he knew which one was right, it would be safer to mark only that one door so the count is only off by one.
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It's also possible that MitD isn't so much deliberately trying to derail Team Evil so much as he's stupid, childish, and impulsive. He could have just decided that painting 'X's on doors was fun, so he did it a couple more times when Xykon et al were not looking.
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It's also possible that MitD isn't so much deliberately trying to derail Team Evil so much as he's stupid, childish, and impulsive. He could have just decided that painting 'X's on doors was fun, so he did it a couple more times when Xykon et al were not looking.
I disagree. A lot of his actions are way too deliberate for that.
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It's also possible that MitD isn't so much deliberately trying to derail Team Evil so much as he's stupid, childish, and impulsive. He could have just decided that painting 'X's on doors was fun, so he did it a couple more times when Xykon et al were not looking.
I don't think so. This feels like a progression of the character development that started when O-Chul Mr. Stiffly urged Monster-san to think for himself.
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Team Evil (Classic/Original Gangstas) is where it is at!
Actually the earliest Team Evil in order of appearance was the Linear Guild. RIP though we just might see more of both Sabine and Hilgya.
Which makes me realize that Rich seems to treat his female characters more gently than his male ones.
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It's also possible that MitD isn't so much deliberately trying to derail Team Evil so much as he's stupid, childish, and impulsive. He could have just decided that painting 'X's on doors was fun, so he did it a couple more times when Xykon et al were not looking.I don't think so. This feels like a progression of the character development that started whenO-ChulMr. Stiffly urged Monster-san to think for himself.
You've also got the line from the previous page:
Oona: Feeling so good about this choice! Thinking tonight will be the night.
MitD: Yeah, uh, hope so. 'Cause that's what we all want, right?
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Which makes me realize that Rich seems to treat his female characters more gently than his male ones.
I recall reading a comment from Rich that he's been very nervous when writing female characters, because experience in the comics has taught him he's not that good at it.
To be specific, he tried to take an antagonist and make her a recurring character, still antagonistic, but fully fleshed out and with complicated relationships. (Miko.) The result was his readers despising her and loudly calling for her death.
He tried again to expand a recurring friendly female character's role to become more prominent, and even essentially a replacement PC, again giving her depth and foibles. (Celia) The result was his readers despising her and loudly calling for her death.
As such, Rich has been somewhat skittish about writing women characters. I know he posted this on the GitP forums, but I don't remember where. Though I believe there's one post somewhere that catalogues all of Rich's Word of God posts, if somebody were so ambitious to find this particular quote.
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That revelation is incredibly disheartening and makes me sad. I don't like how the haters ruin it for the rest of us. :(
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Holy shit, why would people hate Celia? Celia was awesome. Is it the "Pacifism is weakness, kill kill kill" attitude, or something?
I'm psyched about Oona. I think Rich is starting to get that you can literally take a "male" character, swap the gender, keep all the dialogue and stuff the same, and have it work fine. Once you realize that, it starts to get a lot easier to just write them female "from scratch". It's a bit of a hurdle to write the gender you're less used to writing, but I think Rich is making definite progress.
Team Evil (Classic/Original Gangstas) is where it is at!Actually the earliest Team Evil in order of appearance was the Linear Guild. RIP though we just might see more of both Sabine and Hilgya.
Which makes me realize that Rich seems to treat his female characters more gently than his male ones.
Miko and Tsukiko might want to have words with you on that front.
Not that you're necessarily wrong.
Holy s$#&, why would people hate Celia? Celia was awesome. Is it the "Pacifism is weakness, kill kill kill" attitude, or something?
Can't speak for everyone, but what annoyed me was how she went from a perfectly functional NPC (Dungeon of Dorukan), to a sharp, clever lawyer who knew what questions to ask and how to phrase her statements, and was otherwise highly intelligent and cunning (Azure City), and then suddenly became an airheaded (No pun intended) ditz that nearly got herself and Haley killed repeatedly and did nothing but screw up time and time again due to her own (never-before hinted at) idiocy.
No, I wasn't calling for her death or outright despising her, but I do believe that sudden jarring shift was completely out of character for her. So my guess is that's what got a lot of people upset.