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Well I'm glad he's on the side of not being George RR Martin, Ben.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Well I'm glad he's on the side of not being George RR Martin, Ben.

Now that one I can find a bit more easily:

The Giant is really tired of the idea that George RR Martin invented the concept of killing characters.


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Well it helps he isn't killing every character...


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Okay, I found it!

Rich Burlew wrote:

I am not going to draw a comic where committing suicide is portrayed as a reasonable and effective solution to a problem.

I am certainly not going to draw a comic where a religious figure exhorts a believer to commit suicide in order to thwart the efforts of a rival religious faction.

As much as I get testy over nitpicking and loophole-seeking, I understand that such is just part of how you enjoy the comic. But sometimes, the out-of-universe answer is the only answer that is required. Kids and teenagers read this comic. I am not going to spend any time in-comic explaining why no one is killing themselves, because to do so would be to suggest that sometimes, killing yourself is the answer (even if it's not the answer this time). I am not going to write something that has the potential to do real-world damage just to close a story loophole. Everyone can just buck up and live with the plot hole.


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I think Roy's reaction makes it pretty clear that his dad's mass-suicide idea is any but reasonable and is, in fact, utterly wrong and terrible.


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Why is Eugene hanging around the Lawful Good afterlife's front door again? That kind of plan suggests an afterlife in a... plane in the ventral position, so to speak.


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True but it's nice to see another character confirm that.


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Roy's dad actually raises a valid point. The world is recently short on a significant portion of the black dragon population...


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Dal Selpher wrote:
I think Roy's reaction makes it pretty clear that his dad's mass-suicide idea is any but reasonable and is, in fact, utterly wrong and terrible.

Actually, it's perfectly reasonable. That's the problem. It is an answer wrought of pure reason, with no empathy for any of the lives involved.

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How is Roy's dad in Heaven again? (Instead of, say, Mechanus?)


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Ross,

He's not actually in Heaven. He's on the way station that leads to Heaven. Where or not he goes to it...I dunno.

Silver Crusade

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It's pretty obvious he won't get in. I'm sure he'll be sent to the LN afterlife where he belongs.


Fromper,

I thought he was more CG myself. Or CN.


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Eugene Greenhilt. The perfect example of high intelligence and low wisdom.

Silver Crusade

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Sharoth wrote:
Eugene Greenhilt. The perfect example of high intelligence and low wisdom.

And low charisma.


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Fromper wrote:
It's pretty obvious he won't get in. I'm sure he'll be sent to the LN afterlife where he belongs.

We might be technically past the point where that could be a realistic possibility.

Or not, the afterlife rules aren't particularly clear, since the afterlife isn't particularly important to OOTS. The only aspect of the OOTS afterlife that really matters is that living characters find it less desirable than living.

Grand Lodge

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I think the thing Roy's Archon was alluding to was that Eugene has no body to rot.


Tri,

But he must have at some point right?

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Hence why we are past that point.


Okay Tri. If you say so.

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#1048 Parental Bindings


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KingOfAnything wrote:

#1048 Parental Bindings

A grig seems like an oddly specific reference....


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I just like the fact the sword glows green when it comes to family. ;)

Grand Lodge

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Pretty sure Eugene just got Roy in the right mindset is all. :)


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Pretty sure Eugene just got Roy in the right mindset is all. :)

Yes, and I can't help but wonder if that was Eugene's plan all along, or just an unintentional beneficial side effect of Eugene's personality.


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markofbane wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Pretty sure Eugene just got Roy in the right mindset is all. :)
Yes, and I can't help but wonder if that was Eugene's plan all along, or just an unintentional beneficial side effect of Eugene's personality.

Probably a side-effect. Roy's dad isn't socially adept enough to pull off that sort of thing intentionally.


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Well maybe not social but intellectually he's not terrible.

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I wonder how efficient the Green Sword would be on Eugene :-P

What was that about abducting a deva ? Was there some mention of it in the previous strips ?


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The Raven Black wrote:
What was that about abducting a deva ? Was there some mention of it in the previous strips ?

I think it was just a joke about Planar Binding/Summoning spells. :)


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The Raven Black wrote:

I wonder how efficient the Green Sword would be on Eugene :-P

What was that about abducting a deva ? Was there some mention of it in the previous strips ?

When Eugene pretended to be "embodiment of law and justice" for Shojo, he kidnapped and replaced a deva that was supposed to be conjured.


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Being dead, I think Eugene just has a really different perspective on the value of life. What I've noticed people ignoring is that he was swayed by the prospect of dwarves universally going to Hel—he's not immoral, he just doesn't see "everyone goes to their respective afterlifes" as being all that bad.

It's a gamist's perspective on the afterlife mechanic.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
What I've noticed people ignoring is that he was swayed by the prospect of dwarves universally going to Hel—he's not immoral, he just doesn't see "everyone goes to their respective afterlifes" as being all that bad.

Coming at it from the perspective that Eugene is immoral, I took his concern as being worried about the power that Hel would gain, not concern over the dwarves' fate.

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IIRC Eugene did not mind V being willing to go all the way up to and including making pacts with fiends

Maybe not Evil, but definitely not Good

Note that he did not advocate killing all the dwarves (genocide is Evil after all) but did not see any problem with all of them suddenly dying

Lawful Neutral I would say

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#1049 An Uplifting Discussion

Art triumphs over science! Hooray!

Scarab Sages

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Way to break the 4th wall, Roy.


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Hey I appreciate the fact Roy doesn't want to waste time more than they have explain aerodynamics and you know, physics.


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Double pun: Falling Rocks/Falling Rocs. Hehe!


It's equilibrium. Roy's wrong though: it is a magical airship. Just not an airship run by nothing but magical power. Which is important, because that second one is wasteful and stupid - one run-in with an antimagic field...

Oh, also: it's called "equalibrium" and is the same concept that allows fish and boats to float - equivalent displacement by relative density.


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"I just always assumed a wizard did it."

If you can't explain it, there's your answer! As good as any in D&D world!


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Regardless of magic, it's easier to believe in a blimp ship than say, flumphs. ;)

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I guess when it all began Rich indeed assumed they would be in that first dungeon forever ;-)


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Raven,

I thought flumphs got out of the dungeon a while ago...


Flumphs are the most awesone!

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Tacticslion wrote:
Flumphs are the most awesone!

They need to return. It has been too long since they suffered.


Maybe they'll be attacked by flying rocs. ;)

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Maybe they'll be attacked by flying rocs. ;)

They have to return for that to happen.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Maybe they'll be attacked by flying rocs. ;)

No, no, no...

They'll be hit by falling rocs. That is the running gag with the flumphs, after all... (not to mention the warning sign)


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Fine, Falling Rocs.

Dark Archive

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Pretty much the exact opposite of that.

Dark Archive

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Ghost of a Phase Spider (I'm swiping that)

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