The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
People amaze me. You'd think I'd be used to them by now, but no.
The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
Have fun!
Yes because as we all know the time to storm out in a tantrum is before the final product is out. After all it's already printed in stone as handed down by the great old ones and won't change at all from the playtest.
Enjoy your new game.
Hmmm, did you think about playing both it's what I do. I like both games very much for different reasons neither does everything I want so it's the best way for me. 4E is rules balance, monthly errata, small skirmish fun, that plays the same for the most part through all 30 levels. Pathfinder is not all that balanced between classes, story driven fun I accept the good and bad about both.
I too am disappointed in the magus as a class I love gish builds and was wanting a full BAB but I don't think the way they are running the playtest is wrong. The fact they are doing it at all speaks volumes for how much they value their customers opinions and input. If I want a cloth wearing sword swinging wizard I will play a 4E swordmage , see it's good to have options and variety.
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Judging by ET's previous posts, I don't expect him to be happy with any game... Although, the thought of the 4E community being subjected to his endless ranting does bring a smile to my face.
I believe in the future we will see ET make his own game that is completely logical and, of course, completely superior to any other RPG...
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The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
If D&D essentials is what YOUR mathmatical analysis results in...keep it. No really. You can have it all to yourself. Me, I'm actually gonna do math that actually matters in the context of a PnP game thank you very much.
Wait! You forgot your bat and ball!
I agree that mathematical analysis is not the strong suit of Pathfinder. (That is why my current campaign is going down the toilet.)
Hope you enjoy Essentials as much as I am.
Hehe!
The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
Mathematical analysis ? *checks what he is playing* Ooookkaaayyy ... if number crunching is how you have fun, knock yourself out. Me, I want to crush my enemies, see them driven before me ... and play with alla loot.
Although if a section of the board offends you, there is a little triangle bit that you can toggle off various sections. Y'know, to ignore what pains you and all that.
Have fun in what ever you do!
The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
I wish you all the best - good gaming!
GRU
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The way that the Paizo development team and the community disregard mathematical analysis, constructive criticism, and rational discussion in favor of emotional discourse based on perceptions of "fun" has pushed me to my breaking point. I'm picking up D&D Essentials and not Ultimate Magic.
In before "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" I won't.
Mathematical analysis ? *checks what he is playing* Ooookkaaayyy ... if number crunching is how you have fun, knock yourself out. Me, I want to crush my enemies, see them driven before me ... and play with alla loot.
Although if a section of the board offends you, there is a little triangle bit that you can toggle off various sections. Y'know, to ignore what pains you and all that.
Have fun in what ever you do!
crush your enemies... see them driven before YOUUUUUU!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGOQ7SsJrw
I play with some 'optimisers', they cant help themselves. It is a problem I know - they know it too but they cant help it. Others in my group dont want to optimise, they play differently. Same group- different player ethos. Therefore I prefer a game where optimising your character does not result in you being vastly more potent at the mechanical aspects of the game (combat for example). I have found Pathfinder to be too open to power differential from optimisation- there are too many of these things around. It appears to me that the broader paizo community disagrees with me- they like being able to power up with clever little character tweaks. In fact it appears to me the more succesful lobbyists are those asking for more power (though I acknowledge this comes from my position of preferring less - so is probably a skewed perspective). As such I havent played Pathfinder since shortly after the core rule book came out. I dont like 4e either - but I am just saying from my pov there is a problem with the game balance. I am not even sure the lobby group method of playtest feedback is beneficial for the game. Instead I am playing what i would call a houseruled 3.5 with some pathfinder changes (ie skills) that made it cleaner and neater not the ones that made characters more powerful.
I love Paizo's adventures but as to their approach to rules - nope.
Is this an actual serious post? I thought that having fun was the ultimate goal of playing any game.
Yes, it's serious. I remember his first posts - no change since then. It might (probably?) won't last, but I can enjoy it for the moment.
Adieu ET!
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Heh thanks man, I laughed so hard over that.
