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Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:James, will more Kaiju come in Bestiary 5? How would you recommend statting down a Kaiju for parties not of mythic level? A certain Kaiju is thematically perfect, but I prefer not to run adventures over level 12.The right question you're trying to ask would be:
"Will there be a Bestairy 5?"
My answer to that would be: "We haven't announced Bestiary 5 yet."
If you don't want to use mythic rules, but you still want to use Kaiju... I'd say use the spawn of Rovagug like the Tarrasque and go from there.
Are those hints of a possible revised/new edition? Or maybe Paizo thinks there are a bit too many options? Or you are wondering on how to "beat" the awesomeness of Bestiary 4?
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xavier c wrote:When using polymorph any object to polymorph a Pebble into a creature such as a human do you get to choose the appearance,alignment,personality,religon and skills of the creatureAppearance yes. But only the basic appearance.
Alignment and personality probably not (depends on the GM's whim—I wouldn't let you pick them as your GM).
Religion and skills, no. The new human (AKA the GM) gets to pick those.
what if it's mythic polymorph any object
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Khelavraa wrote:Unrevealed at this point.James I have a question for your pondering... about Aroden, and Arazni, and Iomedae.
We all know that Aroden's Church was grabby with the goddesses artifacts, taking them for their own use. I.E. The Bloodstones of Arazni and scraping up all the metal that melted off of Iomedae when she ascended after the Test of the Star Stone to forge into relics and artifacts for the Church of Aroden.
What artifacts and/or relics did the Church make from Iomedae's molten armor? Where are these now that Iomedae has inherited all that was Aroden's church?
Thank you! This gives me hope that one day this will be revealed... Hunting for cool stuff for my Cleric, Inquisitor and Pladins? No, why do you ask?
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Zhangar wrote:What's Nyarlathotep's stance on Rovagug?I can't imagine that he'd be anything other than completely approving of Rovagug and his influence on the world.
Hmmm.
Which of the following are fair statements?
1) The Outer Gods, if triumphant, would tear down reality as we know it and replace it with a reality better suited to them. The universe as we know it would end, but a universe would still continue, albeit under new rules.
2) Rovagug, if triumphant, would tear down reality. The universe would simply end. Nothing would even be able to rise from the ashes.
3) Rovagug would destroy the Outer Gods if given the opportunity.
4) It is unknown if Rovagug could destroy Azathoth, but even an attempt would be disastrous for the multiverse at large.
5) The Outer Gods benefit from Rovagug being imprisoned.
6) The imminent threat posed by Rovagug, even while imprisoned, distracts Sarenrae's, Asmodeus's, and many others' attention away from the acts of the Outer Gods, allowing Nyarlathotep to frequently act unnoticed.
7) Nyarlathotep doesn't want Rovagug to actually escape, but Nyarlathotep is pleased with the damage Rovagug continually causes.
8) Desna's the most notable entity that's paying more attention to the Outer Gods than to Rovagug.
Do these sound at least close to the mark? Or am I grossly misunderstanding something?
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James Jacobs wrote:Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:James, will more Kaiju come in Bestiary 5? How would you recommend statting down a Kaiju for parties not of mythic level? A certain Kaiju is thematically perfect, but I prefer not to run adventures over level 12.The right question you're trying to ask would be:
"Will there be a Bestairy 5?"
My answer to that would be: "We haven't announced Bestiary 5 yet."
If you don't want to use mythic rules, but you still want to use Kaiju... I'd say use the spawn of Rovagug like the Tarrasque and go from there.
Are those hints of a possible revised/new edition? Or maybe Paizo thinks there are a bit too many options? Or you are wondering on how to "beat" the awesomeness of Bestiary 4?
No, they're not.
It's pretty much just "Paizo doesn't announce anything that far out." Our announcements for new books is pretty well-established. AKA: You'll likely need to wait until mid next year to find out what we're doing for our late 2014 hardcover book to find out if we're doing Bestiary 5 or something else entirely.
I think that there's enough monster ideas out there to do Bestiaries forever, for what that's worth.
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James Jacobs wrote:what if it's mythic polymorph any objectxavier c wrote:When using polymorph any object to polymorph a Pebble into a creature such as a human do you get to choose the appearance,alignment,personality,religon and skills of the creatureAppearance yes. But only the basic appearance.
Alignment and personality probably not (depends on the GM's whim—I wouldn't let you pick them as your GM).
Religion and skills, no. The new human (AKA the GM) gets to pick those.
Since there's no such spell in our rules, I'd say that's entirely up to your GM.
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James Jacobs wrote:Zhangar wrote:What's Nyarlathotep's stance on Rovagug?I can't imagine that he'd be anything other than completely approving of Rovagug and his influence on the world.Hmmm.
Which of the following are fair statements?
1) The Outer Gods, if triumphant, would tear down reality as we know it and replace it with a reality better suited to them. The universe as we know it would end, but a universe would still continue, albeit under new rules.
2) Rovagug, if triumphant, would tear down reality. The universe would simply end. Nothing would even be able to rise from the ashes.
3) Rovagug would destroy the Outer Gods if given the opportunity.
4) It is unknown if Rovagug could destroy Azathoth, but even an attempt would be disastrous for the multiverse at large.
5) The Outer Gods benefit from Rovagug being imprisoned.
6) The imminent threat posed by Rovagug, even while imprisoned, distracts Sarenrae's, Asmodeus's, and many others' attention away from the acts of the Outer Gods, allowing Nyarlathotep to frequently act unnoticed.
7) Nyarlathotep doesn't want Rovagug to actually escape, but Nyarlathotep is pleased with the damage Rovagug continually causes.
8) Desna's the most notable entity that's paying more attention to the Outer Gods than to Rovagug.
Do these sound at least close to the mark? Or am I grossly misunderstanding something?
1) Unknown, but probably fair.
2) Not fair.
3) Not fair.
4) Not fair. I suspect Rovagug is more powerful than Azathoth, if only because he's capable of intelligent thought and reason.
5) Not fair.
6) Not fair. Nyarlathotep is really sneaky, and would be able to do his thing even if the gods weren't distracted. Which they're not. The gods are more than humans. They can handle multiple situations at once with no loss to their abilities.
7) Unknown.
8) Desna is the Core Deity most concerned with the Outer Gods, yes.
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Hi James, this may be the weirdest question of the day, but I was curious (if I missed this somewhere else I apologize) as to what the star stone was composed of? Meteoric metals? Something unusual? Just regular "space rock" is an acceptable answer =} I was also wondering if it, the rock it's self, had any unusual properties? Other than being the host of the cathedral that is...
Thanks! And have a happy New Year!!
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I was reading the Alushinyrra gazetteer in The Wrath of the Righteous(The Midnight Isles) and was surprised by the sheer size of the city.So do most god and demigod planar Realms have planar cities and Metropolis in them.
And are most god and demigod planar Realms the size of continents or larger
Many gods and demigods have large cities under their control, but Alushinyyra is particularly large, mostly because it's one of the few cities on the Abyss that is open and welcoming (sort of!) to visitors and trade.
Most divine realms are about the size of a continent... but some have planet-sized realms... and some even larger. Very few have a realm smaller than a continent.
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Hi James, this may be the weirdest question of the day, but I was curious (if I missed this somewhere else I apologize) as to what the star stone was composed of? Meteoric metals? Something unusual? Just regular "space rock" is an acceptable answer =} I was also wondering if it, the rock it's self, had any unusual properties? Other than being the host of the cathedral that is...
Thanks! And have a happy New Year!!
The star stone, as revealed in Mythic Realms, is made of...
The cathedral itself is made of many different but mostly mundane (although enhanced by magic) materials like metal and stone and glass and the like.
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Hi James, this may be the weirdest question of the day, but I was curious (if I missed this somewhere else I apologize) as to what the star stone was composed of? Meteoric metals? Something unusual? Just regular "space rock" is an acceptable answer =} I was also wondering if it, the rock it's self, had any unusual properties? Other than being the host of the cathedral that is...
Thanks! And have a happy New Year!!
Makes me wonder why this isn't like a 'Star Stone Blade' Mythic-style artifact or something.
Oooooh... The Sword in the StarStone!
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Annika L wrote:Hi James, this may be the weirdest question of the day, but I was curious (if I missed this somewhere else I apologize) as to what the star stone was composed of? Meteoric metals? Something unusual? Just regular "space rock" is an acceptable answer =} I was also wondering if it, the rock it's self, had any unusual properties? Other than being the host of the cathedral that is...
Thanks! And have a happy New Year!!
Makes me wonder why this isn't like a 'Star Stone Blade' Mythic-style artifact or something.
Oooooh... The Sword in the StarStone!
Because the place to do something like that would be in an adventure that details the Cathedral of the Starstone? And because that's not an adventure we are ready to do yet?
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xavier c wrote:I was reading the Alushinyrra gazetteer in The Wrath of the Righteous(The Midnight Isles) and was surprised by the sheer size of the city.So do most god and demigod planar Realms have planar cities and Metropolis in them.
And are most god and demigod planar Realms the size of continents or larger
Many gods and demigods have large cities under their control, but Alushinyyra is particularly large, mostly because it's one of the few cities on the Abyss that is open and welcoming (sort of!) to visitors and trade.
Most divine realms are about the size of a continent... but some have planet-sized realms... and some even larger. Very few have a realm smaller than a continent.
Are there any other cities or Towns in the Midnight Isles?
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Khelavraa wrote:Unrevealed at this point.James I have a question for your pondering... about Aroden, and Arazni, and Iomedae.
We all know that Aroden's Church was grabby with the goddesses artifacts, taking them for their own use. I.E. The Bloodstones of Arazni and scraping up all the metal that melted off of Iomedae when she ascended after the Test of the Star Stone to forge into relics and artifacts for the Church of Aroden.
What artifacts and/or relics did the Church make from Iomedae's molten armor? Where are these now that Iomedae has inherited all that was Aroden's church?
If I remember correctly, the only thing that actually remained after Iomedae's ascenstion was the molten fragments that formed a crown, and that a real sticking issue was that the Pathfinder Society stole it from the Iomedans and still holds it today.
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xavier c wrote:Why does Rahadoum ban the religion of good deities whats so bad about Sarenrae's(a goddess of Redemption/the sun and Healing) or Shelyn's ( a goddess of love/art and Beauty) religion.Everyone who lives there can't feel this way or think Religion is wrong or evil or negative.My opinion? Because the rulers of Rahadoum are narrow-minded and frightened of faith of ANY type.
Wasn't the Dawnflower's Church half of the ruckess which nearly destroyed Rahadoum?
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the conflict between the churches was the problem.
Bring in Saranrae, and you bring in every evil faith that wants to stomp her into the dust and will happily punish all her faithful for daring to pay homage to her.
They decided they had enough of being proxies for deity fights and kicked them all out.
I don't call that fear, I call it being fed up. Maybe not very smart, but, hey, it's ONE solution that seems to have worked.
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Cthulhudrew wrote:I want there to be a fair amount of difference between the core races of each continent, and Samsarans seem more in line with Casmaron than Nagaji. If we DO go with Nagaji, then Samsarans get kicked out of Casmaron. And I personally prefer Samsarans... so take that as you will.James Jacobs wrote:If we did a Casmaron world book, the core races would likely be:
Human
Vishkanya
Vanara
Samsaran
????
????Grr. Want this book!
How about Nagaji? I realize they're already present in Tian-Xia, but given the Naga/RW Naga - Hindu/Indian connection, I'd think they'd be a good fit there as well.
(Although I realize you're not necessarily going for a one-to-one correspondence in analogues.)
Gods willing I hope you stick to this plan. Blue reincarnating people does seem thematic in a way that snake people doesn't. I also believe the Wayangs belong in Vudra as a halfling analogue, given their connection to legends actually from India.
What do you think of the following?
A tortoise people?
Or a firebird-shamanistic race, for a totally different take on the feathered races, as opposed to the Tengu?
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the conflict between the churches was the problem.
Bring in Saranrae, and you bring in every evil faith that wants to stomp her into the dust and will happily punish all her faithful for daring to pay homage to her.
They decided they had enough of being proxies for deity fights and kicked them all out.
I don't call that fear, I call it being fed up. Maybe not very smart, but, hey, it's ONE solution that seems to have worked.
==Aelryinth
The Sarenrae Church isn't neccessarily innocent. The aggressive and violent move into to Taldor is all on them.
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James,
As a question that might set a precedent (or series thereof), what happens when a Wyrwood (or any self-aware, free-thinking construct) is targeted with Control Construct or Apparent Master?
Does a Wyrwood count as it's own master? If so, would Apparent Master resolve like Charm Person?
Would a Wyrwood get some sort of saving through against Control Construct? If not, and assuming the Wyrwood is it's own master, would it still be opposed Spellcraft checks or something else?
Thanks again,
Dan.
It's your second time asking that in this topic, pretty sure James gave an answer.
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tzizimine wrote:Same thing that happens when you target a human with charm person? I'm not sure there's a difference there. The game's had mind control from the start.James,
As a question that might set a precedent (or series thereof), what happens when a Wyrwood (or any self-aware, free-thinking construct) is targeted with Control Construct or Apparent Master?
Does a Wyrwood count as it's own master? If so, would Apparent Master resolve like Charm Person?
Would a Wyrwood get some sort of saving through against Control Construct? If not, and assuming the Wyrwood is it's own master, would it still be opposed Spellcraft checks or something else?
Thanks again,
Dan.
My apologies. I glossed over the reply.
Let me clarify the heart of the question.
This charm makes a construct regard you as its master. The spell only affects mindless constructs that are attuned to the commands of a master, such as animated objects, golems, retrievers, and shield guardians. All constructs with Intelligence scores, even those that explicitly follow the commands of their creator, such as an homunculus, are unaffected.
Saving Throw none (see text); Spell resistance no
You wrest the control of a construct from its master. For as long as you concentrate, you can control the construct as if you were its master. You must make a Spellcraft check each round to maintain control. The DC of the Spellcraft check is (10 + the construct's HD). If the construct's creator or master is present and trying to control the construct, you both must make opposed Spellcraft checks each round to control the construct.
In Apparent Master, it mentions pretty clearly that it only works on mindless constructs that have a designated master. However, in Control Construct, that clarification is missing.
Is that distinct limitation on what kind of constructs Apparent Master affects supposed to also apply to Control Construct? If so, cool.
If not, the fact that there is no saving throw for Control Construct and no Spell Resistance means that a Wyrwood would have no possibility of resisting, unless the Wyrwood is considered it's own master, in which case, it could only resist with opposed Spellcraft checks, which cannot be attempted untrained.
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Hey James, quick question: for some of the ranger archetypes (such as the Warden, Wild Stalker, and Freebooter), the favored enemy abiltiy is replaced for other benefits, but other abilities such as quarry, improved quarry, and master hunter remain the same. As it stands, these three abilities are all useless for a ranger, since he doesn't have the 'favored enemy' class feature anymore (which is something that those three other class features depend on).
My question is this: are there any plans to update or errata these archetypes? I only ask because you guys DID end up updating the infiltrator archetype for the ranger, which also suffered from a similair problem like this. Thanks again!
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James Jacobs wrote:tzizimine wrote:Same thing that happens when you target a human with charm person? I'm not sure there's a difference there. The game's had mind control from the start.James,
As a question that might set a precedent (or series thereof), what happens when a Wyrwood (or any self-aware, free-thinking construct) is targeted with Control Construct or Apparent Master?
Does a Wyrwood count as it's own master? If so, would Apparent Master resolve like Charm Person?
Would a Wyrwood get some sort of saving through against Control Construct? If not, and assuming the Wyrwood is it's own master, would it still be opposed Spellcraft checks or something else?
Thanks again,
Dan.
My apologies. I glossed over the reply.
Let me clarify the heart of the question.
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In Apparent Master, it mentions pretty clearly that it only works on mindless constructs that have a designated master. However, in Control Construct, that clarification is missing.
Is that distinct limitation on what...
I don't mean to step on James' or your toes, but maybe your question requires the kind of specificity that is better addressed by posting the question in the Rules subforum and hitting the FAQ link so the Paizo Developer Team can see it and discuss it?
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tzizimine wrote:I don't mean to step on James' or your toes, but maybe your question requires the kind of specificity that is better addressed by posting the question in the Rules subforum and hitting the FAQ link so the Paizo Developer Team can see it and discuss it?James Jacobs wrote:tzizimine wrote:Same thing that happens when you target a human with charm person? I'm not sure there's a difference there. The game's had mind control from the start.James,
As a question that might set a precedent (or series thereof), what happens when a Wyrwood (or any self-aware, free-thinking construct) is targeted with Control Construct or Apparent Master?
Does a Wyrwood count as it's own master? If so, would Apparent Master resolve like Charm Person?
Would a Wyrwood get some sort of saving through against Control Construct? If not, and assuming the Wyrwood is it's own master, would it still be opposed Spellcraft checks or something else?
Thanks again,
Dan.
My apologies. I glossed over the reply.
Let me clarify the heart of the question.
** spoiler omitted **
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In Apparent Master, it mentions pretty clearly that it only works on mindless constructs that have a designated master. However, in Control Construct, that clarification is missing.
Is that distinct limitation on what...
Not a bad idea. Thanks for the tip
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James, are all the core deities on the same power level?
No. Some (like Pharasma and Rovagug and Desna) are much older and thus much more powerful than relative newcomers like Norgorber, Iomedae, and Cayden Cailean. But that difference in power is meaningless to mortals. It's like saying one galaxy is bigger than the other—both remain almost incomprehensibly huge to human minds.
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James Jacobs wrote:Are there any other cities or Towns in the Midnight Isles?xavier c wrote:I was reading the Alushinyrra gazetteer in The Wrath of the Righteous(The Midnight Isles) and was surprised by the sheer size of the city.So do most god and demigod planar Realms have planar cities and Metropolis in them.
And are most god and demigod planar Realms the size of continents or larger
Many gods and demigods have large cities under their control, but Alushinyyra is particularly large, mostly because it's one of the few cities on the Abyss that is open and welcoming (sort of!) to visitors and trade.
Most divine realms are about the size of a continent... but some have planet-sized realms... and some even larger. Very few have a realm smaller than a continent.
Yes. Many. On average one per isle... with larger isles having multiple cities. They're all much smaller than Alushinyrra though, and much more unwelcoming of PCs.
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James Jacobs wrote:Wasn't the Dawnflower's Church half of the ruckess which nearly destroyed Rahadoum?xavier c wrote:Why does Rahadoum ban the religion of good deities whats so bad about Sarenrae's(a goddess of Redemption/the sun and Healing) or Shelyn's ( a goddess of love/art and Beauty) religion.Everyone who lives there can't feel this way or think Religion is wrong or evil or negative.My opinion? Because the rulers of Rahadoum are narrow-minded and frightened of faith of ANY type.
Dunno off the top of my head. I'd have to delve back into the books to make sure... but I think you might be confusing Rahadoum with Osirion there.
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the conflict between the churches was the problem.
Bring in Saranrae, and you bring in every evil faith that wants to stomp her into the dust and will happily punish all her faithful for daring to pay homage to her.
They decided they had enough of being proxies for deity fights and kicked them all out.
I don't call that fear, I call it being fed up. Maybe not very smart, but, hey, it's ONE solution that seems to have worked.
==Aelryinth
That's certainly one way to look at it... but fear plays a part for sure. They're afraid of the idea of giving up their free will... which is kind of a fundamental misunderstanding of how religion works, but it makes for an interesting nation!
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What do you think of the following?
A tortoise people?
Or a firebird-shamanistic race, for a totally different take on the feathered races, as opposed to the Tengu?
Wasn't a fan of tortoise people when they included them in Mystara as tortles... and I remain not a tortoise person fan today.
And I'd rather not have a bird race. That's the Tengu's role, and there's plenty of other options. Of course... that's not a rabbit hole I'm ready to go down at this time. Got WAY too many androids and robots and the like to wrangle at the moment to start building a distant continent.
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Aelryinth wrote:The Sarenrae Church isn't neccessarily innocent. The aggressive and violent move into to Taldor is all on them.the conflict between the churches was the problem.
Bring in Saranrae, and you bring in every evil faith that wants to stomp her into the dust and will happily punish all her faithful for daring to pay homage to her.
They decided they had enough of being proxies for deity fights and kicked them all out.
I don't call that fear, I call it being fed up. Maybe not very smart, but, hey, it's ONE solution that seems to have worked.
==Aelryinth
On a faction of the church that's lost their way... and Taldor is hardly an innocent victim there... but yeah.
The schism in their church in Qadira is a plotline I hope to follow up on one day. An AP where the PCs (among other things) repair the Church of Sarenrae in Qadira could be cool.
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James Jacobs wrote:tzizimine wrote:Same thing that happens when you target a human with charm person? I'm not sure there's a difference there. The game's had mind control from the start.James,
As a question that might set a precedent (or series thereof), what happens when a Wyrwood (or any self-aware, free-thinking construct) is targeted with Control Construct or Apparent Master?
Does a Wyrwood count as it's own master? If so, would Apparent Master resolve like Charm Person?
Would a Wyrwood get some sort of saving through against Control Construct? If not, and assuming the Wyrwood is it's own master, would it still be opposed Spellcraft checks or something else?
Thanks again,
Dan.
My apologies. I glossed over the reply.
Let me clarify the heart of the question.
** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **
In Apparent Master, it mentions pretty clearly that it only works on mindless constructs that have a designated master. However, in Control Construct, that clarification is missing.
Is that distinct limitation on what...
Looks like it might be time to take the question to the rules forums, then.
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Hey James, quick question: for some of the ranger archetypes (such as the Warden, Wild Stalker, and Freebooter), the favored enemy abiltiy is replaced for other benefits, but other abilities such as quarry, improved quarry, and master hunter remain the same. As it stands, these three abilities are all useless for a ranger, since he doesn't have the 'favored enemy' class feature anymore (which is something that those three other class features depend on).
My question is this: are there any plans to update or errata these archetypes? I only ask because you guys DID end up updating the infiltrator archetype for the ranger, which also suffered from a similair problem like this. Thanks again!
No plans that I know of. That's a question for the rules team, not me.
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Hey, James, is Dagger of Trust still scheduled for release in January? I'm getting different answers from this site and Amazon (I had an errand to run there, so I looked), which now gives summer 2014 as the release date. What's up with that?
According to our website, that book is scheduled to release in mid Janurary.
Amazon's release schedule notifications are NOTORIOUSLY untrustworthy, especially for smaller publishers like Paizo. A lot of Amazon's release schedules and pricing is done automatically without actual human interactions, as far as I know, and their computers get things wrong a lot.
In any event, it's always best to go to the publisher of a book to learn the most accurate release date, regardless of the book.
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Do Entomanothropes exist in Golarion?
A quick search on google reveals no hits for that word other than associations with D&D. So... no. They're product identity of Wizards of the Coast.
We do have humanoids who change into arthropods, like the aranea or the jorugumo, but they're not "were-insects" and that's not really a category of monster I'm interested in exploring.