
Asasha |

Yeah there's a lot of rogues but it's also a perfect opportunity to really see how the APG class options can redefine the classes to create drastically different charaacters.
Good Point! Anyway, it seems likely that this is a city adventure,.. would you really expect a lot of rangers and druids? Cities are rogue paradice!
Geez with this many rogues we'll be tripping over each other to disarm traps.
..I'll let you disarm all the traps if you like!

Galrian Sho´ray |

Well, seeing how my guy is too old but creating HUGE pile of opportunities to do things, I think I will advance / multiclass at some point to the fighter, since kinda of aching to get my hands to fighter bonus feats + attacks. Would also fit perfectly to my background story... issue is just the stats but hah, who plays for stats if not for RP

Shol’a’saul |

So, other than Kristophe, who is half elf, I am the only non human in the party. I can see why no one wants to be my friend, he he. Still, feel free to check out her BG, and see if maybe she has run into you before. Perhaps she has treated you for sicknesses during Korvosa recent upheavals. She is definitely impossible to forget, he he.

Lem Thomason |

So, other than Kristophe, who is half elf, I am the only non human in the party. I can see why no one wants to be my friend, he he. Still, feel free to check out her BG, and see if maybe she has run into you before. Perhaps she has treated you for sicknesses during Korvosa recent upheavals. She is definitely impossible to forget, he he.
Yeah I noticed that as well, so I changed the proportions slightly by making Lem into a tiefling. Don't want to change avatar so I am going to have to think up some interesting ways for him to freak people out with his terrible charisma. Seeing as they're both in the healing trade(ish) they could know each other simply from rivalry or Lem calling Shol'a'saul an "untutored charlatan" at every opportunity. Something like that. I still need to finish my background but I'll stick a rough idea up.

Asasha |

So, other than Kristophe, who is half elf, I am the only non human in the party. I can see why no one wants to be my friend, he he. Still, feel free to check out her BG, and see if maybe she has run into you before. Perhaps she has treated you for sicknesses during Korvosa recent upheavals. She is definitely impossible to forget, he he.
... Couldn't think of a way we might already have met,.. unless you looked after prostitutes ("Night Tea"?) in which case you might have known Katallin's mother? Maybe you sold and prepared this for local street girls too?

scranford |

Nightflier's a talented DM who has a good handle on what works, what doesn't and how to handle balance. I'd let him worry about other people's characters. I applaud everyone gettinginto the game by completing characters and interweaving backstory, it shows genuine enthusiasm, the mark of a campaign that won't die in a week.
If anything's not approved we'll all just as easily modify it.
Besides, it's one thing where a single player want class defence bonus and everyone else uses armor, that unbalances the available cash per character, but when it work for everyone that's fine in fact it exists for campaigns where the characters are unlikely to wear armor yet know how to not get themselves killed.
We're all here to have fun, let's not start rules lawyering before the DM's even put in his 2 cents.
Yeah, there's a lot of rogues but it's also a perfect opportunity to really see how the APG class options can redefine the classes to create drastically different characters.
Just because a few people have similar concepts for a city based game doen't mean they're clones. A comment like so much for unique characters, comes off as elitist and insulting, and makes people feel as if they have to defend their character concept. I hope that's not what you were going for.
Thank you for noticing. I was trying to be elitist and insulting.
All I'm trying to say, is there are a lot of options available for characters in this game, I don't see why we need three people with almost identical skill sets. I'll change my concept, though I was the first to post my character. In a Pbp with 9 players we're already going to be stepping on players toes a bit.

Galrian Sho´ray |

'cough, cough' don´t mind me... with no armour can´t really fight but can´t also shake my enemies off with running.. damn my back..
hm, all aside: I consider it a nice idea although for PF it´s not maybe something really so... well, fitting since in the end it´s city theme plus we are kind of acting group-> as also based on the class/level system which was already brought up.
I will still see what I can do with my character although I like the concept as it is now.

Asasha |

All I'm trying to say, is there are a lot of options available for characters in this game, I don't see why we need three people with almost identical skill sets. I'll change my concept, though I was the first to post my character. In a Pbp with 9 players we're already going to be stepping on players toes a bit.
Fair enough,.. Although i don't think that you should really feel the need to change classes (unless you really want to) after all, there are essentially four "roles" that can be filled in any group and, other than fighters, rogues are probably the best to have multiples of (ok, maybe healers are more useful) its always nice to have some support whilst scouting and think of the awesome sneak attack combos!
Anyway, like you say, whatever role you take there are sure to be other characters in a nine-person party who fulfil similar roles to yours. As far as i can tell from a quick scan of characters you are the only ranged specialist in the group (with the possible exception of the Alchemist).
If its really a problem i'd be happy to change to an alternative concept since you did, after all, post your finished character 1st.

Shol’a’saul |

Shol’a’saul wrote:So, other than Kristophe, who is half elf, I am the only non human in the party. I can see why no one wants to be my friend, he he. Still, feel free to check out her BG, and see if maybe she has run into you before. Perhaps she has treated you for sicknesses during Korvosa recent upheavals. She is definitely impossible to forget, he he.... Couldn't think of a way we might already have met,.. unless you looked after prostitutes ("Night Tea"?) in which case you might have known Katallin's mother? Maybe you sold and prepared this for local street girls too?
It certainly works, as she is nearly 90 years old, also that stuff is exactly the kind of services she, and her Coven, would provide for the poor folks of Korvosa. You would recogniz her, but as for knowing her as a friend, that would need to be worked on.

Shol’a’saul |

Shol'a'saul wrote:So, other than Kristophe, who is half elf, I am the only non human in the party. I can see why no one wants to be my friend, he he. Still, feel free to check out her BG, and see if maybe she has run into you before. Perhaps she has treated you for sicknesses during Korvosa recent upheavals. She is definitely impossible to forget, he he.Yeah I noticed that as well, so I changed the proportions slightly by making Lem into a tiefling. Don't want to change avatar so I am going to have to think up some interesting ways for him to freak people out with his terrible charisma. Seeing as they're both in the healing trade(ish) they could know each other simply from rivalry or Lem calling Shol'a'saul an "untutored charlatan" at every opportunity. Something like that. I still need to finish my background but I'll stick a rough idea up.
If you decide to go insulting her skills, just be sure you do it when her Covey is not around, he he. They do have a fell reputation.

Galrian Sho´ray |

Well, I could add to that as friend. As a spin-off before leaving from Korvosa to world, I might have known you (due to beauty and maybe not so much yet distracted / people looking after even though training to be witch?) since was running after girls & women since young. Elves are after all known from their beauty and Galrian, well, was never really giving up of opportunity to come know new "cherries"
Something behind or just I used to come see you alot of times :P Could actually work since looking now to core rules about age´s and so on and noticing that we are quite possible in that sense... actually, I Love this idea alot! We could make quite great combo somehow with this.
About the age... if you are 90 now... you are still young :D

scranford |

scranford wrote:All I'm trying to say, is there are a lot of options available for characters in this game, I don't see why we need three people with almost identical skill sets. I'll change my concept, though I was the first to post my character. In a Pbp with 9 players we're already going to be stepping on players toes a bit.Fair enough,.. Although i don't think that you should really feel the need to change classes (unless you really want to) after all, there are essentially four "roles" that can be filled in any group and, other than fighters, rogues are probably the best to have multiples of (ok, maybe healers are more useful) its always nice to have some support whilst scouting and think of the awesome sneak attack combos!
Anyway, like you say, whatever role you take there are sure to be other characters in a nine-person party who fulfil similar roles to yours. As far as i can tell from a quick scan of characters you are the only ranged specialist in the group (with the possible exception of the Alchemist).
If its really a problem i'd be happy to change to an alternative concept since you did, after all, post your finished character 1st.
Don't fret it. I'll either adjust my skills, and make him a more diplomatic / knowledge Rogue, or do another character. He would probably have spent less time disarming traps, and opening locks as a hired guard anyway. ;-).

Kythvanath |

By the way, the only reason I went on and put oversized weapon was because I think I was being forgotten and didn't want to be left behind. So I decided to go on and do it and if nightflier says its a no go then I will simply change it. Also even with more than one rogue (I think there is 3) I don't think I single one of them have the same archetype do they so they aren't copies of each other. They each have a separate niche to fill. I believe scranford's sounds like it is ranged, cyra's rogue is a mobile flanking fighter along side my character, and electic's.....well honestly I can't remember what that one is set up as. As for where the paladin went she decided that it really wasn't a class she wanted to play.

scranford |

By the way, the only reason I went on and put oversized weapon was because I think I was being forgotten and didn't want to be left behind. So I decided to go on and do it and if nightflier says its a no go then I will simply change it. Also even with more than one rogue (I think there is 3) I don't think I single one of them have the same archetype do they so they aren't copies of each other. They each have a separate niche to fill. I believe scranford's sounds like it is ranged, cyra's rogue is a mobile flanking fighter along side my character, and electic's.....well honestly I can't remember what that one is set up as. As for where the paladin went she decided that it really wasn't a class she wanted to play.
I'm not speaking for Nightflier, but another thing to consider is to just use a small Aldori fighting sword in the off hand. It would only reduce the potential damage by an average of 1, and it could save you a feat. Just a thought.

Asasha |

By the way, the only reason I went on and put oversized weapon was because I think I was being forgotten and didn't want to be left behind."
Don't want to stuff up your character or anything but i don't think that you're profficient with the second Aldori Duelling Sword unless you take the exotic weapon proficiency feat. - Heirloom gives you proficiency only with the specific weapon you inherited - not other weapons of that type.
However i'm fairly new to the system so i could be wrong?
If i'm right then scranford's idea of using a small Aldori sword in the off-hand would save two feats, not just one!
and electic's.....well honestly I can't remember what that one is set up as. As for where the paladin went she decided that it really wasn't a class she wanted to play.
I'm also a mobile support flanker in combat,.. I'm either going to stick with rogue or multiclass into Shadowdancer or possibly Duelist. Nothing wrong with a couple of flankers though. Like i said earlier, two rogues flanking nasties can do some pretty tasty damage!

Asasha |

I will re-imagine Kristophe as a Ranger/Wizard shooting towards Arcane Archer. That should clear up the log jam a bit at Rogue, and maybe work a little better for the ranged combat specialist.
Remember that i am happy to change if this is a problem. - I could re-imagine Asasha as a Bard (although i'm never sure how to rp the whole performance thing in combat. - seems odd to start singing and dancing whilst the %&^* goes down.

Asasha |

I believe that the aldori sword counts as a longsword with out proficiency or I could be wrong and it counts as a longsword andd has a non proficiency negative.
Ahh,.. Good point, I might have to keep that in mind especially if i eventually head for duelist as a prestige class!

Zariah |

Kristophe wrote:I will re-imagine Kristophe as a Ranger/Wizard shooting towards Arcane Archer. That should clear up the log jam a bit at Rogue, and maybe work a little better for the ranged combat specialist.I could re-imagine Asasha as a Bard (although i'm never sure how to rp the whole performance thing in combat. - seems odd to start singing and dancing whilst the %&^* goes down.
LMAO yeah it can seem a little silly. Although I can think of Bards also being cheerleaders, warrior poets, the type of fighter that just can't help spewing awesome speeches, or someone who's ranting fires up their allies and terrifies their enemies.

The Great Katallin |

Asasha wrote:LMAO yeah it can seem a little silly. Although I can think of Bards also being cheerleaders, warrior poets, the type of fighter that just can't help spewing awesome speeches, or someone who's ranting fires up their allies and terrifies their enemies.Kristophe wrote:I will re-imagine Kristophe as a Ranger/Wizard shooting towards Arcane Archer. That should clear up the log jam a bit at Rogue, and maybe work a little better for the ranged combat specialist.I could re-imagine Asasha as a Bard (although i'm never sure how to rp the whole performance thing in combat. - seems odd to start singing and dancing whilst the %&^* goes down.
I always think of it like the banter in the TMNT movies where they demoralize the foot by talking smack or moralize by tribulizing the situation.

Diabinthe XIII |

Is there room for a druid on here? I notice there are a lot of rogues, and I don't want to see someone give up their character because there are too many. I want to change from rogue to druid, would that be ok? Just trying to make things easier and I look forward to hopefully being accepted and getting to play with all of you.
*bows courteously*
Pleasure to meet all of you, I am Diabinthe.
*squeals shyly with delight*
I can't wait to be the tree-hugger of the group! Be nice to your plants, they have feelings too, until they are diced and put into salad, and then its all over.

Shol’a’saul |

Is there room for a druid on here? I notice there are a lot of rogues, and I don't want to see someone give up their character because there are too many. I want to change from rogue to druid, would that be ok? Just trying to make things easier and I look forward to hopefully being accepted and getting to play with all of you.
*bows courteously*
Pleasure to meet all of you, I am Diabinthe.
*squeals shyly with delight*
I can't wait to be the tree-hugger of the group! Be nice to your plants, they have feelings too, until they are diced and put into salad, and then its all over.
Joy! Looks like I found a playmate, he he. If you don't mind freaky elf witches that is, he he. Seriously, check out her BG and see if anything jibes with yours, she is kinda the oddball here.

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I am back. I had most dreadful business experience of my life. I was even threatened with physical violence. It was very stressful, needles to say. I am so very sorry for interruption of the character creation process. I hope to resolve difficulties by Monday and to return to posting. Thank you all for not losing patience with me.

Ezekiel Tauranor |

I am back. I had most dreadful business experience of my life. I was even threatened with physical violence. It was very stressful, needles to say. I am so very sorry for interruption of the character creation process. I hope to resolve difficulties by Monday and to return to posting. Thank you all for not losing patience with me.
I'm glad everything's alright, night! It's perfectly fine - such things can only be handled with utmost caution, and I'm also glad -you're- alright while I'm at it. I'm sure we can wait for your return with no issues.

The Great Katallin |

I am back. I had most dreadful business experience of my life. I was even threatened with physical violence. It was very stressful, needles to say. I am so very sorry for interruption of the character creation process. I hope to resolve difficulties by Monday and to return to posting. Thank you all for not losing patience with me.
We will still be here. I'm sure we all understand real world demands and what not. Just be cautious with your business dealings with any person who can threaten physical violence.

Diabinthe XIII |

Diabinthe XIII wrote:Joy! Looks like I found a playmate, he he. If you don't mind freaky elf witches that is, he he. Seriously, check out her BG and see if anything jibes with yours, she is kinda the oddball here.Is there room for a druid on here? I notice there are a lot of rogues, and I don't want to see someone give up their character because there are too many. I want to change from rogue to druid, would that be ok? Just trying to make things easier and I look forward to hopefully being accepted and getting to play with all of you.
*bows courteously*
Pleasure to meet all of you, I am Diabinthe.
*squeals shyly with delight*
I can't wait to be the tree-hugger of the group! Be nice to your plants, they have feelings too, until they are diced and put into salad, and then its all over.
Oh yes, you and I will be playmates indeed! I have to say, I love the way you put your witch together. She seems like she is going to be a lot of fun. I'm an oddball myself so this is going to be great. Any idea when we get to start? I'm rather excited about this one, I never played a druid and never played with a witch before, so this one will be fun!

Diabinthe XIII |

By the way, the only reason I went on and put oversized weapon was because I think I was being forgotten and didn't want to be left behind. So I decided to go on and do it and if nightflier says its a no go then I will simply change it. Also even with more than one rogue (I think there is 3) I don't think I single one of them have the same archetype do they so they aren't copies of each other. They each have a separate niche to fill. I believe scranford's sounds like it is ranged, cyra's rogue is a mobile flanking fighter along side my character, and electic's.....well honestly I can't remember what that one is set up as. As for where the paladin went she decided that it really wasn't a class she wanted to play.
Nope, but I am going to play the druid now. Paladin had too many rules, and it is going to be fun playing with you on this one. I didn't want to see anyone give up their character just because there were too many rogues.

Shol’a’saul |

Oh yes, you and I will be playmates indeed! I have to say, I love the way you put your witch together. She seems like she is going to be a lot of fun. I'm an oddball myself so this is going to be great. Any idea when we get to start? I'm rather excited about this one, I never played a druid and never played with a witch before, so this one will be fun!
I appreciatee the kind words, and I am looking forward to this. This is the first time playing a witch, as I never got a chance during the playtest for the witch. I was going for the Far Realm vibe with her, and other madness traits with her. She has few friends, so if no one reaches out to her, then she may slip completely into insanity. Should be fun to play, he he.

Shol’a’saul |

Well, I could add to that as friend. As a spin-off before leaving from Korvosa to world, I might have known you (due to beauty and maybe not so much yet distracted / people looking after even though training to be witch?) since was running after girls & women since young. Elves are after all known from their beauty and Galrian, well, was never really giving up of opportunity to come know new "cherries"
Something behind or just I used to come see you alot of times :P Could actually work since looking now to core rules about age´s and so on and noticing that we are quite possible in that sense... actually, I Love this idea alot! We could make quite great combo somehow with this.
About the age... if you are 90 now... you are still young :D
Yeah this will work for me, you may have even known her before she was claimed by the Covey, where many of her unique personality traits came out. Since she is beautiful, then yeah, go ahead and have a crush on her. She may remember you for that, he he

Asasha |

Hey,... I was thnking of adding some type of physical of flaw to Asasha as a character since at the moment she's a little too "perfect" - The fist thing that came to mind was some type of scarring...
That got me thinking of maybe a burn which made me think of you :)
My idea is that, when we were younger, we occasionaly performed together. Unfortunately, when i was around about 13 (you would have been 16???), during a performance, your flame-type powers manifested (kind of x-men mutant thing?) and i was burned seriously as a result - left with unhealable scaring (not sure where or how obvuious yet - possibly down my neck - hence the scarf in the picture). It was at this point that i stopped performing and started working the crowd whilst you performed. (no-one wants to watch a disfigured dancer).
As a result of this you might be protective of me, feeling responsible in some way?? - I don't have any hard feelings though.
As a possible extension, it could have been Shol'a'saul who healed me although she couldn't remove the (magical) scars. - this would give both of us some shared history with the witch.
What do you think? (feel free to say no if this is against the way you want to play Zariah)
- looking forward to the game starting!

Zariah |

For Asasha (and Shol'a'saul)
I really like it. A plan on playing Zariah as the jaded badgirl and this adds a great dimension of the person inside that she rarely lets others see. Guilt, protectiveness, these things are all there but most people only see the sexy/mysterious/slightly scary exterior.
I also like the tie in to Shol'a'saul, it also adds a cool element of the burn being a sort of white whale for her, the wound she couldn't heal, and the questions it represents both to her and Zariah's powers.

Galrian Sho´ray |

Galrian Sho´ray wrote:
Well, I could add to that as friend. As a spin-off before leaving from Korvosa to world, I might have known you (due to beauty and maybe not so much yet distracted / people looking after even though training to be witch?) since was running after girls & women since young. Elves are after all known from their beauty and Galrian, well, was never really giving up of opportunity to come know new "cherries"Something behind or just I used to come see you alot of times :P Could actually work since looking now to core rules about age´s and so on and noticing that we are quite possible in that sense... actually, I Love this idea alot! We could make quite great combo somehow with this.
About the age... if you are 90 now... you are still young :D
Yeah this will work for me, you may have even known her before she was claimed by the Covey, where many of her unique personality traits came out. Since she is beautiful, then yeah, go ahead and have a crush on her. She may remember you for that, he he
Mhm, added Shol´a´Saul to my background. You can check it out and tell how you like it. Hopefully it´s okey, but I can do some changes and add maybe more if you want to make it more realistic :) Somehow I like how it is and also fits your liking

Shol’a’saul |

Mhm, added Shol´a´Saul to my background. You can check it out and tell how you like it. Hopefully it´s okey, but I can do some changes and add maybe more if you want to make it more realistic :) Somehow I like how it is and also fits your liking
Zariah wrote:
For Asasha (and Shol'a'saul)
Excellent...
I've updated my background and description to include this.
I like these, incorporated both of these into my BG.

The Great Katallin |

Can anyone tell me what the APG had on druids?
While many druids keep to the wilderness, some make
their way within settlements, communing with the
animals and vermin who live there and speaking for the
nature that runs rampant in civilization’s very cradle.
Spontaneous Casting: An urban druid can channel
stored spell energy into domain spells that she has not
prepared ahead of time. She can “lose” a prepared spell in
order to cast any domain spell of the same level or lower.
This ability replaces the ability to spontaneously cast
summon nature’s ally spells.
Nature Bond (Ex): An urban druid may not select an
animal companion. Instead, she must choose from the
following domains, rather than those usually available
to druids: Charm, Community, Knowledge, Nobility,
Protection, Repose, Rune, or Weather.
Lorekeeper (Ex): At 2nd level, an urban druid adds
Diplomacy, Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), and
Knowledge (nobility) skills. She also receives a +2 bonus on
these skill checks. This ability replaces a druid’s woodland
stride and trackless step abilities.
Resist Temptation (Ex): At 4th level, an urban druid gains
a +2 bonus on saves vs. divinations and enchantments.
This replaces the resist nature’s lure ability.
A Thousand Faces (Su): An urban druid gains this ability
at 6th level.
Wild Shape (Su): An urban druid gains this ability at 8th
level, except that her effective druid level for the ability is
equal to her druid level – 4.
Mental Strength (Ex): At 9th level, an urban druid gains
immunity to charm and compulsion effects. This ability
replaces venom immunity.
That seems appropriate for the campaign. Basically they have terrain type(jungle, mountain, desert, etc.) and animal type(bear, eagle, lion, etc) druids.
ninja'd by Asasha

Asasha |

Urban Druid that's an oxymoron and a half what's it about and the wolf shaman? Grrrr need money must buy APG...
Wolf Shaman
A shaman with this totem calls upon the clever wolf, capable
of roaming alone yet wise enough to run with a pack
when facing dangers too great for one alone.
Nature Bond: A wolf shaman who chooses an animal
companion must select a wolf. If choosing a domain, the
wolf shaman must choose from the Animal, Community,
Liberation, and Travel domains.
Wild Empathy (Ex): A wolf shaman can use wild empathy
with canines as a full-round action with a +4 bonus.
Totem Transformation (Su): At 2nd level, a wolf shaman
may adopt an aspect of the wolf while retaining her normal
form. This ability functions as the bear shaman ability,
but the druid may select from the following bonuses:
movement (+20 enhancement bonus to land speed), senses
(low-light vision, scent, +4 racial bonus to Survival when
tracking by scent), or natural weapons (bite [1d4 plus trip]
for a Medium druid, +2 CMB to trip). While using totem
transformation, the wolf shaman may speak normally and
can cast speak with animals (canines only) at will.
Totemic Summons (Su): At 5th level, a wolf shaman
may cast summon nature’s ally as a standard action when
summoning canines, and these summoned creatures gain
temporary hit points equal to her druid level. This ability
otherwise functions as the bear shaman ability.
Wild Shape (Su): At 6th level, a wolf shaman’s wild shape
ability functions at her druid level – 2. If she takes on the
form of a canine, she instead uses her druid level + 2.
Bonus Feat: At 9th level and every 4 levels thereafter, a
wolf shaman gains one of the following bonus feats: Greater
Trip, Improved Trip, Mobility, Skill Focus (Stealth), or
Spring Attack. She must meet the prerequisites for these
bonus feats. This ability replaces venom immunity.

Asasha |

Ok I really like the wolf but, what does it mean when it says like bear totem in tototemic transformation and summons? Also thanks for all the help so far.
may adopt an aspect of the bear while retaining her normal
form. She gains one of the following bonuses: movement
(+10 enhancement bonus to land speed, +4 racial bonus on
Swim checks), senses (low-light vision, scent), toughness
(+2 natural armor bonus to AC, Endurance feat), or
natural weapons (bite [1d6] and 2 claws [1d4] for a Medium
shaman, +2 to CMB on grapple checks). While using totem
transformation, the bear shaman may speak normally and
can cast speak with animals (mammals only) at will. Using
this ability is a standard action at 2nd level, a move action at
7th level, and a swift action at 12th level. The bear shaman can
use this ability for a number of minutes per day equal to her
druid level. These minutes do not need to be consecutive,
but they must be used in 1-minute increments. This is a
polymorph effect and cannot be used while the druid is
using another polymorph effect, such as wild shape.

Asasha |

So what's the summon part? And once again thanks for the info.
summoning bears, and summoned bears gain temporary
hit points equal to her druid level. She can apply the young
template to any bear to reduce the level of the summoning
spell required by one. She can also increase the level of
summoning required by one in order to apply either the
advanced or the giant template, or increase it by two to
apply both the advanced and giant templates. This ability
replaces a thousand faces.