iPad = Perfect Device for Character Sheet Apps!


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Disenchanter wrote:


That is just too funny! I don't care if you just made it up, that is hilarious.

On a side note, Bill Gates killed my ferret. Well, sort of. Ok, it got better, but...

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:( I saw that there was 78 new posts and I got all excited that someone had posted a character sheet app.

Has anyone used the pfr app that came out? Is it useful? I don't see any reviews in the store.


Robert Hawkshaw wrote:

:( I saw that there was 78 new posts and I got all excited that someone had posted a character sheet app.

Has anyone used the pfr app that came out? Is it useful? I don't see any reviews in the store.

Looks like it could be useful, but for iPad, why not just use the Paizo System Reference Document or d20pfsrd.com? Seems like it does the same thing.

Sovereign Court

veector wrote:
Robert Hawkshaw wrote:

:( I saw that there was 78 new posts and I got all excited that someone had posted a character sheet app.

Has anyone used the pfr app that came out? Is it useful? I don't see any reviews in the store.

Looks like it could be useful, but for iPad, why not just use the Paizo System Reference Document or d20pfsrd.com? Seems like it does the same thing.

Well, right now I'm using an iphone so I was just hoping to piggy back on any new developments. Buying an Ipad is lower priority than my wedding, rent and getting my supersubscription back:)

Grand Lodge

Cartigan wrote:
Herald wrote:


Oh, of course I think that all reviewers are on the Apple payroll since you've provided so much proof. I wouldn't want to be though of as "daft".

Most reviews of ANY PRODUCT. It's just blatantly obvious for Apple because they are declaring it the greatest success ever the day after it comes out, or a "game-changing" piece of hardware the day it comes out.

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Then you haven't done your homework, have you? Marvel has a store, more will follow.

Marvel has an app (ie, approved by Apple and released through the app store) just like everyone else with which they may distribute their own content. Just like everyone else. This is not some magic revolutionary thing and since it ALREADY EXISTS I don't see how it can be added in iPhone OS 4.

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In addition to all of this, there will be an enterprise function that can be added that will allow a private IT groups to push applications to devices.

So they FINALLY get Exchange support and let IT make business wide apps for business pluged in iPhones. Amazing [/sarcasm]

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Yea, that is just pretty much advertising doublespeak that all manufacturers use as a mantra. Burger king states that you can "Get it Your Way..." but i doubt that they are truely prepared to handle that.I

What does that have to do with what I said?

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And typing your reply in all caps helps make your point...
Go play Plants vs Zombies on your iPad.

And once again it shows that you haven't done your home work. The marvel app is thier store. The choose what to sell through that app, plain and simple.

Exchange support has been around since the 3.0 version of the OS. As far as I know, Windows/Google phones don't seem to have a way of helping IT depts push out software wirelessly. So yes, it is a big deal.

And why can't you keep track of your talking points. I responded to the comment "fanatical customers." I pointed out it was just advertising fluff. Didn't you read what you wrote?

You keep making points that aren't facts. You're simply arguing just to take a counter position and this discussion dosen't revolve around you. You've made your case, many of us have pointed out where you are wrong. Please let this go.


Herald wrote:


And once again it shows that you haven't done your home work. The marvel app is thier store. The choose what to sell through that app, plain and simple.

The Marvel app is an app. Sold on the Apple app store. You are able to buy and view things in their app. There is no secondary store that is selling things usable on your iPad separately.

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As far as I know, Windows/Google phones don't seem to have a way of helping IT depts push out software wirelessly.

Neither of which are the market leader in the business world of phones.

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And why can't you keep track of your talking points. I responded to the comment "fanatical customers." I pointed out it was just advertising fluff. Didn't you read what you wrote?

Yes, people lining up around the block on release day to buy an iPad without major accessories is "advertising fluff." Insert rolling eyes here.

Grand Lodge

Robert Hawkshaw wrote:

:( I saw that there was 78 new posts and I got all excited that someone had posted a character sheet app.

Has anyone used the pfr app that came out? Is it useful? I don't see any reviews in the store.

I did try it. Mostly I have been just looking through it, so I haven't tried to use it during a game. It's about as useful and any other type of rules source. I kinda thought the price was high, but that could be just me. I'd ball bark the pirce i think it should be a $2-3.

If you are like me you will want to use it in landscape mode to make the font a bit larger.

Navigation is could be better. Ths navigation buttons only seem to pop up if I shift the phone around. and sometimes I have to close the app and reenter it to get back to the start.

I don't know what sort of development is being done for it will continue, but I imagine it will.

Grand Lodge

Cartigan wrote:
Herald wrote:


And once again it shows that you haven't done your home work. The marvel app is thier store. The choose what to sell through that app, plain and simple.

The Marvel app is an app. Sold on the Apple app store. You are able to buy and view things in their app. There is no secondary store that is selling things usable on your iPad separately.

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As far as I know, Windows/Google phones don't seem to have a way of helping IT depts push out software wirelessly.
Neither of which are the market leader in the business world of phones.

1)The marvel app is a store and yes they will be selling things for the iPhone and iPad.

2) Windows is a market leader in smart phone and they are gearing up for a huge release with thier newest OS. I've seen it, it's impressive and will make them a much bigger player in the market. Just proving that you can code once and run software from the PC, to the Xbox to the Windows phone is a very, very impressive feat.

Blackberry should be afraid.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I removed some posts. People need to chill. Please stop assuming that people are idiots and/or deluded just because they disagree with you.

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Ross Byers wrote:
I removed some posts. People need to chill. Please stop assuming that people are idiots and/or deluded just because they disagree with you.

/Looks Cartigan's way

//adds fuel to the fire to watch the commotion
///does that make me CN?
////been on Fark to much, to many slashes

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Cartigan wrote:


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As far as I know, Windows/Google phones don't seem to have a way of helping IT depts push out software wirelessly.

Neither of which are the market leader in the business world of phones.

I really wanted to avoid this conversation ... but ...

Just to be clear, Apple isn't a leader in "business phones" either - that territory firmly belongs to companies like RIM right now. Last I heard, in the business deployment, Apple is only just now approaching double digits in integration.

Also, as someone who has supported both BlackBerry and Windows Mobile smartphone deployments (and now a dozen iPhone 3GS) in enterprise environments I can most certainly assure you that we could, and can, deploy software wirelessly to Windows Mobile based phones; and we could do it with a metric ton more management and auditing features (Which incidentally was also a metric ton less options available to Blackberry administrators) than any solution currently provided by Apple.

Grand Lodge

VagrantWhisper wrote:
Cartigan wrote:


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As far as I know, Windows/Google phones don't seem to have a way of helping IT depts push out software wirelessly.

Neither of which are the market leader in the business world of phones.

I really wanted to avoid this conversation ... but ...

Just to be clear, Apple isn't a leader in "business phones" either - that territory firmly belongs to companies like RIM right now. Last I heard, in the business deployment, Apple is only just now approaching double digits in integration.

Also, as someone who has supported both BlackBerry and Windows Mobile smartphone deployments (and now a dozen iPhone 3GS) in enterprise environments I can most certainly assure you that we could, and can, deploy software wirelessly to Windows Mobile based phones; and we could do it with a metric ton more management and auditing features (Which incidentally was also a metric ton less options available to Blackberry administrators) than any solution currently provided by Apple.

That is very true at the moment, I have to wonder what the case will be when the new 4.0 version of the iPhone OS will come out.

The experiance at our company is that while Blackberry is dominate overall, it is far from from being beloved. Windows Mobile, and iPhone keep picking away at it and Android is getting some interest. If iPhone gets remote wipe worked out with it's enterpise options, that could really change some minds.


Herald wrote:


That is very true at the moment, I have to wonder what the case will be when the new 4.0 version of the iPhone OS will come out.

The experiance at our company is that while Blackberry is dominate overall, it is far from from being beloved. Windows Mobile, and iPhone keep picking away at it and Android is getting some interest. If iPhone gets remote wipe worked out with it's enterpise options, that could really change some minds.

I am a long time Blackberry fanatic. I live in Waterloo, a few minutes from RIM home base. A very great number of people I know work at RIM. I've used a blackberry for years, evangelized it, introduced it to my department and got everyone switched over to it. Did great things for our ability to communicate and function efficiently as a team. About 2 months ago I got an iPhone. Then another guy in my dept did... Blackberry does need to worry about this. We have already noticed a decrease in how well our group communications are functioning with 2 of us changing, but the experience on the iPhone is not going to return us to the Blackberry. My biggest complaint (no unified inbox) sounds like is going to be addressed with OS 4.0

The people I know at RIM recognize the danger to their business base with the expanding consumer popularity of the iPhone, but imply the company's current priority is cracking the huge potential Chinese market.

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Herald wrote:


That is very true at the moment, I have to wonder what the case will be when the new 4.0 version of the iPhone OS will come out.

The experiance at our company is that while Blackberry is dominate overall, it is far from from being beloved. Windows Mobile, and iPhone keep picking away at it and Android is getting some interest. If iPhone gets remote wipe worked out with it's enterpise options, that could really change some minds.

I wonder as well - so far Apple's Enterprise strategy has been less than stellar, but we can hope for the best.

My department is ga-ga over the Android, even though we're all sporting iPhones, and I have to say after seeing the latest info out of MIX10 in Vegas, I wouldn't discount the newest release of Windows Mobile (now known as Windows Phone 7) either. Frankly, I think this is the best time to be evaluating smartphones, there's some really cool stuff coming down the pipe.

Remote wipe on iPhone works, assuming you're using an Activesync application like Exchange, but you have to do it through the Exchange Mobile tools, same ones you use to wipe Windows Mobile. I agree though, some kind of remote option direct from an Apple management console would be way better.

I have no way to tie this all back into the topic ... LOL

Grand Lodge

VagrantWhisper wrote:
Herald wrote:


That is very true at the moment, I have to wonder what the case will be when the new 4.0 version of the iPhone OS will come out.

The experiance at our company is that while Blackberry is dominate overall, it is far from from being beloved. Windows Mobile, and iPhone keep picking away at it and Android is getting some interest. If iPhone gets remote wipe worked out with it's enterpise options, that could really change some minds.

I wonder as well - so far Apple's Enterprise strategy has been less than stellar, but we can hope for the best.

My department is ga-ga over the Android, even though we're all sporting iPhones, and I have to say after seeing the latest info out of MIX10 in Vegas, I wouldn't discount the newest release of Windows Mobile (now known as Windows Phone 7) either. Frankly, I think this is the best time to be evaluating smartphones, there's some really cool stuff coming down the pipe.

Remote wipe on iPhone works, assuming you're using an Activesync application like Exchange, but you have to do it through the Exchange Mobile tools, same ones you use to wipe Windows Mobile. I agree though, some kind of remote option direct from an Apple management console would be way better.

I have no way to tie this all back into the topic ... LOL

In our testing, remote wipe works sometimes...I won't go into details.

Long story short, there is going to be a big shift in the smart phone industry soon and it's for the best.

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Herald wrote:

In our testing, remote wipe works sometimes...I won't go into details.

Long story short, there is going to be a big shift in the smart phone industry soon and it's for the best.

hahaha ... ya, trust me, "works" is relative in our testing too. We bricked 4 out of 10 test phones with the remote wipe testing - had to get full replacements from Apple.


veector wrote:
jyster wrote:


No HDMI cable output
Screen aspect 4:3 thats old school tv
No SD slot, they would rather you spend another couple hundred dollars to get more memory, my Sony ereader even has a SD slot.
Its a pain to put your stuff on the ipad, which is your device.
No camera
No multi-tasking of 3rd party aps

I think out of this list, the things which bother me are:

"Its a pain to put your stuff on the ipad, which is your device." It's true, getting files onto the iPad takes a 3rd party app. Even if all you want to do is load your PDFs and read them.

Multi-tasking is already taken care of since the new iPhone OS with multi-tasking was announced.

All the other issues you mention are not an issue to me.

Just out of curiosity, what type of files does the eReader recognize from the SD card?

Sorry for not posting sooner, the ereader can use txt, epub, rtf, mp3 and think of anything else at the moment


iPad seems nice. I'm sure I could get a lot of use out of it at my gaming table. But no Flash and USB (or SD cards) = no buy from me. Plus I'll never get 1st gen of new tech. Patience is a virtue. :)


An iPad app would be sweet.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

This post started over a discussion of having a D&D character sheet on the iPad. It soon devolved into an insult fest around the iPad itself. For the sake of those who are actually interested in the experience of an actual iPad using gamer, here are my thoughts.

I've been using my iPad for several weeks with my weekend gaming group. I bought the iPad specifically to replace my two backpacks full of books that I was lugging around town. It does exactly what I want it to... make reading .pdfs easy and convenient. If there was a decent character sheet, I would use that too.

Reasons I like the iPad over a laptop...

1. I am not hiding behind a laptop screen. Over the months I have been gaming with this group, more and more of them have been bringing their laptops. As a result, our face-to-face gaming has become more of a face-to-half face meeting. Personally, I find this annoying.

2. Navigation between books is simpler/quicker

3. Does not require a power outlet for extended gaming sessions. Most laptops don't have the battery life to remain on for an 8 hour session. Power cords snake away from our table like spaghetti. Not an issue with the iPad.

4. Even more convenient form factor. If it was bigger, it would be bulky and cumbersome. If it was smaller, it would seem cramped and hard to read. Apple got this one right. One poster mentioned that the iPad can move from the bottom of the pile to the top and back again. Too true.

Since I started using my iPad for gaming I also started using other apps. I now find it more convenient to use my iPad for email, quick web searches and facebook. It is not convenient for content creation.

Side note: Am I a fanboy? No. I like the right tool for the right job. I'm writing this on a three-screen WinXP box I built myself. My gaming computer is a Win7 machine from a boutique manufacturer. My phone is a BlackBerry. (Don't care for it. Will most likely move to Droid.) My wife uses a MacBook I bought for her. (I don't have to fix it, explain what a .dll is, or otherwise provide assistance.) I don't have a need for a laptop myself. I like the iPad, not because I'm drinking Apple-flavored cool-aid, but because my experiences with it are positive. Happy gaming!


Rise. RISE! RIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSEEEEEE!


I just got my iPad a few weeks ago and have only famed with it twice, but i do like it and it does wht i need it to do.

That being said here's what i would like it to be able to do.

I would like a PDF reader that support editable fields, as far as i know one doesn't exist as of yet. I don't need a character builder, i allow too many books in my game, and there will never be a builder that supports all that content.

I would also love a good combat tracker, one that would be utilized from a player and gm point of view. For the gm i would like it to track initiative, hit points, conditions, number of rounds, and maybe a spot for a few notes about the encounter. For a player i hit points, conditions, equipment, and maybe some way of keeping track of limited use items, abilities, consumables.

That does seem like a lot, but it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to do.

Liberty's Edge

Tal_Akaan, I use iAnnotatePDF on my iPad, and this is a really awesome app. I use the singel-file adventures from the APs, or the modules. This app lets you make notes directly in the pdf - underline, highlight, handwritten notes,etc... all there.
Just give it a try.


I've looked at that one and my only problem is, for me, $10 is too much to pay to "try" something.


You could try iReadPDF by the same company. I wish they would bring iAnnotatePDF back down to the iPod as a universal app. I have Aji Annotate PDF and I love it, and they haven't really updated it with any of tricks they've added to iAnnotate, like VGA out.

Another option would be to go the other way and get Numbers or Documents To Go for the Spreadsheet functionality. That could possibly kill both your needs. For the fillable character sheet and combat tracker. As I don't have an iPad I can't speak to Numbers, but Documents to Go has been a very worthwhile investment for my iPod (and its UB, so when I get an iPad it'll transfer over). Actually I got DocumentsToGo Premium while it was on sale. :D

Pages may also work, but I don't think the tables you insert can process functions.

Not to much longer until iOS4.2 and folders/task-switching for all you iPad folks.


the new ipad battle map app.

could this be the solution for playing rpgs without minis and chessex mats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sXgHT7_e-A

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

O_O *picks jaw off floor*


TriOmegaZero wrote:
O_O *picks jaw off floor*

Impressive isnt it? I am also quite baffled.


I've looked at that as well. I like their little RPG Calc and the developer was quite responsive to adding a mute option to that program.

What I'd like to see before I buy Battle Map is some connectivity between devices. Mainly if I have player's with an iOS device (iPod/iPhone/iPad) of their own I'd really like them to be able to "log-in" to or at least Peer or Peer connect and register moves remotely to whatever iOS device is hooked to the TV/Projector. I'm a likely going to get iPad version 2 when they come out, which will leave me with an iPod 3rd gen, and maybe 4th gen if tech bling shamefully gets the better of me in next week or so, as a free floating iOS device. With the iPad strung to pico projector or TV I'd like to be able to either use the iPod as a "Behind the GM screen device" or be able to pass it around to players in a more spread out situation (like taking lounging around the whole living room instead of clustered around a small table). Done another way, an iPod/iPhone 4 could drive the Pico Projector and move my iPad to being my GM "screen" . Interconnectivity is important, and kind of why I'm holding out for MaPnakotic MapTool Client.

http://www.gandreas.com/iphone/mapnakotic/
http://boards.gandreas.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=642

Another thing, it would be oh so cool if Battle Map could export the maps it makes so they could be used in MapTool, I would be way more inclined to buy it, connectivity between devices or no.

I don't think this would happen with Battle Map, but maybe a spin-off by Razeware taking the core of Battle Maps and creating a Peer to Peer VTT that could list/host games through the Game Center. It would do something that Wizards shot themselves in the foot with their VTT, get our gaming mobile, social, and whenever/where you are.

Grand Lodge

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If the host of my Shackled City game has a digital input on his TV, I am so getting that app. Heck, I might just get it now for whenever I can host at my house.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
If the host of my Shackled City game has a digital input on his TV, I am so getting that app. Heck, I might just get it now for whenever I can host at my house.

I have no way of testing it but would a VGA to RCA(Component) adaptor or the like work with Apple's iPad VGA out adaptor? It should theoretically.

http://www.amazon.com/VGA-RCA-Component-RGB-Cable/dp/B000FM3EQ0

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Excellent question. We should ask them!


Another question which may be easier, is if Apps that output through the Dock to VGA also output through the Dock to Component or Composite adaptors. I have a component adaptor but my iPod 3rd gen doesn't support App video out.


Great app for the ipad:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pfr/id365514623?mt=8

PF SRD


WorkSlave wrote:

Great app for the ipad:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pfr/id365514623?mt=8

PF SRD

That looks great... But does it have the APG?

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