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The Wraith |
![Xanesha](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/19_Boss-Lamia.jpg)
Of all the six, the Summoner is the class I'm really excited with. I really hope it would be cool and fun.
BTW, the Oracle has been a GREAT surprise... very fancy ! (not counting the art of the iconic Oracle... rawr!) - I have great expectations for all the other classes (the Cavalier, however, left me a bit cold...)
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![Droogami](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A5-Plane-of-Shadow-Blast-3.jpg)
Of all the six, the Summoner is the class I'm really excited with. I really hope it would be cool and fun.
BTW, the Oracle has been a GREAT surprise... very fancy ! (not counting the art of the iconic Oracle... rawr!) - I have great expectations for all the other classes (the Cavalier, however, left me a bit cold...)
Well, it seems like you are predisposed toward caster classes :) The cavalier seemed pretty decent to me. And the fact that they are supposed to be niche classes means the slight dependence on a mount didn't bother me as much.
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Rio, Pokemon Trainer |
![Darius Finch](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/7.-DariusFinch.jpg)
Kolokotroni wrote:You have 1 grenade. I have multiple bunnies.Dragonborn3 wrote:I have my holy handgrenade ready for your snowball!Someone make a thread...
"I call forth the Destroyer of Worlds- Snowball, the fluffy white bunny of doom!"
And I have Buneary!
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Kolokotroni |
![Angvar Thestlecrit](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A9-Wizard_final.jpg)
Kolokotroni wrote:You have 1 grenade. I have multiple bunnies.Dragonborn3 wrote:I have my holy handgrenade ready for your snowball!Someone make a thread...
"I call forth the Destroyer of Worlds- Snowball, the fluffy white bunny of doom!"
You are assuming only the bunny gets hit with the grenade
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![Droogami](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A5-Plane-of-Shadow-Blast-3.jpg)
So when exactly will I get to play a Summoner*?
*Pokemon Trainer
I believe it is scheduled for release on Monday. And as far as I can remember Summoner is a bad name as the class covers any sort of "companion". I.e. Summoned outsider, Frankenstein type monster made from the corpses of other monsters, mechanical constructs, and anything else you can think of as an origin for your pet.
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![Jason Bulmahn](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/Jason2.jpg)
And as far as I can remember Summoner is a bad name as the class covers any sort of "companion". I.e. Summoned outsider, Frankenstein type monster made from the corpses of other monsters, mechanical constructs, and anything else you can think of as an origin for your pet.
Actually, as the class came together.. the name Summoner made more and more sense. You will see on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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![Red Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9093-RedDragon_500.jpeg)
Draeke Raefel wrote:And as far as I can remember Summoner is a bad name as the class covers any sort of "companion". I.e. Summoned outsider, Frankenstein type monster made from the corpses of other monsters, mechanical constructs, and anything else you can think of as an origin for your pet.Actually, as the class came together.. the name Summoner made more and more sense. You will see on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
Or you could show us now...
Please?
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![Droogami](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A5-Plane-of-Shadow-Blast-3.jpg)
Draeke Raefel wrote:And as far as I can remember Summoner is a bad name as the class covers any sort of "companion". I.e. Summoned outsider, Frankenstein type monster made from the corpses of other monsters, mechanical constructs, and anything else you can think of as an origin for your pet.Actually, as the class came together.. the name Summoner made more and more sense. You will see on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
Hmm... I'll have to wait... I liked the idea of being able customize the concept to whatever I deemed appropriate for my character. I.e. if he was the mad scientist type creating Frankenstein or whatever, rather than just summoning something up from the ether or another plane of existence.
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![Jason Bulmahn](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/Jason2.jpg)
The classes will be up Monday morning. While I do not want to spoil anything yet, I do want to say that making the summoner deal outsiders as a focus opened up a lot of options for us. I am pretty sure you could spin it toward a doc Frankenstein theme if you wanted... but you see what I mean on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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gnomewizard |
![Arnistolientar Popswicker](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9211-Arnisto.jpg)
The classes will be up Monday morning. While I do not want to spoil anything yet, I do want to say that making the summoner deal outsiders as a focus opened up a lot of options for us. I am pretty sure you could spin it toward a doc Frankenstein theme if you wanted... but you see what I mean on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
what does everyone or anyone read this as? I hope it does not mean you have to summon outsiders. I don't like Devils, and junk...I want a big earth golemn or something like that as my summoned friend!
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![James Jacobs](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/JamesJacobs.jpg)
what does everyone or anyone read this as? I hope it does not mean you have to summon outsiders. I don't like Devils, and junk...I want a big earth golemn or something like that as my summoned friend!
Big earth golem type things can be outsiders, of course...
The class is VERY customizable. I'm pretty sure folks will be VERY pleased with what you'll be able to do with it. It's pretty nifty!
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![Succubus](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/succubus.jpg)
gnomewizard wrote:what does everyone or anyone read this as? I hope it does not mean you have to summon outsiders. I don't like Devils, and junk...I want a big earth golemn or something like that as my summoned friend!Big earth golem type things can be outsiders, of course...
The class is VERY customizable. I'm pretty sure folks will be VERY pleased with what you'll be able to do with it. It's pretty nifty!
Now you guys are just being mean with all the teasing... I approve.
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Zombieneighbours |
![Ghoul](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/ghoul.jpg)
nighttree wrote:You notice they are not dropping any Witch hints.....life is so cruel.Well... here's one. Witches have a "cackle" ability. (Sits back and waits to see how that tidbit can be misinterpreted.)
Cackle? Mmm...that is kind of cool. I really want to know what that actually does.
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vagrant-poet |
![Valeros](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO1126-Valeros1_500.jpeg)
nighttree wrote:You notice they are not dropping any Witch hints.....life is so cruel.Well... here's one. Witches have a "cackle" ability. (Sits back and waits to see how that tidbit can be misinterpreted.)
That sounds strangely cartoonish, Paizo have yet to let me down, but you are seriously provoking the misinterpret crowd with that!!
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LoreKeeper |
![Darius Finch](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/7.-DariusFinch.jpg)
Well... here's one. Witches have a "cackle" ability. (Sits back and waits to see how that tidbit can be misinterpreted.)
Like we fall for that, everybody knows about the witch's cackle leak (for those not informed: there is a list of cackles, similar to schools of magic and a witch decides which cackle to adhere to. Different cackles have different ramifications speccing the witch more towards debuffing gish or more towards multi-familiar master)
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Sean FitzSimon |
![Owl](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/owl.jpg)
James Jacobs wrote:Well... here's one. Witches have a "cackle" ability. (Sits back and waits to see how that tidbit can be misinterpreted.)Like we fall for that, everybody knows about the witch's cackle leak (for those not informed: there is a list of cackles, similar to schools of magic and a witch decides which cackle to adhere to. Different cackles have different ramifications speccing the witch more towards debuffing gish or more towards multi-familiar master)
Those not informed? This stuff has been all over the net for the last month! I'm personally stuck between the "maniacal old hag" and "leering supervillan" cackles. They've each got such great buffs.
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Eric Stipe |
![Owl](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/owl.jpg)
The classes will be up Monday morning. While I do not want to spoil anything yet, I do want to say that making the summoner deal outsiders as a focus opened up a lot of options for us. I am pretty sure you could spin it toward a doc Frankenstein theme if you wanted... but you see what I mean on Monday.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
(in his best whiny homer impression) Monday? but i want it now! ;-)
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KaeYoss |
![The Jester](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/jester.jpg)
So summoners get a "make your own monster" kit where they conjure raw... stuff from Beyond (Cerulean Void powered, probably) and assemble their critter piecemeal.
And witches cackle when they burn? Does that mean we'll get an early inquisitor sneak peak?
Let me just say that the more Granny Weatherwax the witch has, the better. Is there a headology specialisation? Borrowing? Fading into the foreground? First sight?
And while it's not a summoning chant, I support the traditional "centre-finger-extended" banishing gesture, and the words of dismissal "run along".
As for summoning, "come here" only works if you're an undead ninja on a personal vendetta, so I'll have to come up with something better. "Into the light I command thee" works, of course. A more modern "I want to make a reservation for a Type VI Extradimensional, please" might work for some people, and "heere kitty kitty kitty" can work if you're calling a hellcat.
But please no elemental combos where 5 summoners get some humanoid freak. "Earth! Fire! Water! Air! Heart!"
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!