Sean Bean heads cast for HBO's A Game of Thrones


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Newest episode.

Holy moly, they sure cut that plot point/character off quick.

Spoiler:
Brienne is way gone, don't know about Podrick. Maybe if Sansa had helped out Reek before the wedding things might have been different?


MannyGoblin wrote:
Over on the rpg.net forum, someone posted the crazy and scary thought that Cersi might win the game of thrones because everyone else is either dead or too weak to challenge her. *eek*

Speculative but fairly likely:
Cersie is prophesied, by a reliable source, to be killed by her vonquolor: which means little monster or little brother. Tyrion is an obvious fit...but it was mentioned during a discussion of dornish laws of succession that cersei is older than Jamie by a few minutes, making him a viable candidate. There's also been more than a few references of them leaving the world together like they came into it.

Screaming and covered in blood sounds right.


So Cersei is no doubt going to find out that having such a passive son works against her. I read a post where someone was so irritated at Tom's passiveness, that he actually wanted Joffery there so we at least could see the highly amusing and violent results of the Sparrows trying to snatch Magarey.

Personally, I would love to see Tom run to Qyburn and beg for help, saying that he doesn't care what happens, just save his mommy and wife.

Cue FrankenGregor.


*chants*

GREG OR STEIN! GREG OR STEIN!


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Who the hell let a necromancer with mythic levels into the E 6 campaign!?!?!?!?

Liberty's Edge

Wow! That was some episode last night!!!


So, what weapon do you chose for the zombie apocalypse?

FEEET!


Best episode of the season I thought. Barely any scenes from the books interestingly enough.


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Yeah that was a huge improvement over the prior episodes. Lack of Dorne in this episode certainly helped.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Best episode of the season I thought. Barely any scenes from the books interestingly enough.

They can either pass the books, install some action by changing things, or have nothing happen. (they've been doing some of each)

Sovereign Court

Hoo boy I loved this episode. Oh yeah I did.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Best episode of the season I thought. Barely any scenes from the books interestingly enough.

They can either pass the books, install some action by changing things, or have nothing happen. (they've been doing some of each)

This.

Although I expect we're seeing some things that will pop up in Winds of Winter as well.


I really liked Birgitte Hjort Sørensen's character.

Spoiler:
(the wilding woman that got bum-rushed by the wight-kids). I wish she didn't die. She was kinda hot in a fierce, chop-your-head-off sort of way.


They managed to make us care about her in a very short time.

You knew what was coming...

It was one thing to see that they were evil. It was something else to see that they were evil enough to deliberately screw with you.


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I hope Ramsey's little commando raid doesn't involve him pulling any more ridiculous loin-cloth fighting like before. Super-psycho is very tiresome.


MannyGoblin wrote:
I hope Ramsey's little commando raid doesn't involve him pulling any more ridiculous loin-cloth fighting like before. Super-psycho is very tiresome.

I do like that the books/series generally avoid the armor is useless trope.

Sovereign Court

Yeah, it was awesome when Jora grabbed that sword from that Dothraki between his chesd and arm armor and sliced him open.


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MannyGoblin wrote:
I hope Ramsey's little commando raid doesn't involve him pulling any more ridiculous loin-cloth fighting like before. Super-psycho is very tiresome.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thinks the Ramsey character is so very dull.

Whenever he's on screen I'm tempted to fast forward. I don't of course...


My idea about what Ramsey is up to

Spoiler:
Ramsey isn't going out to kill Stannis but to kidnap Shireen. If he killed Stannis, then he would be ground zero in his army. Once back, he sends the 'pink letter' made from some of Shireen's skin demanding Sansa and Reek back.


Why didn't they (Save for Wun Wun of all people/sascwatches) use fire against the wights?


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I'd also like to say this: Jaimie's storyline going off rails was easily the worst decision made this season. Even more so than excluding Griff, the Greyjoy bros, LS, Lord Manderly (which I will never forgive), and others. Worse than killing Mance, and even worse than turning Sansa into a victim again.
Jaimie's development during the Riverlands arc is probably the best part of the entire series. Leaving that out further hollows out his character, making him develop little if any, and given the lack of a certain revelation last season, he has no reason to fulfill the prophecy (which they left out) It's like the writers hate him for some reason.

Also, regarding the wildlings

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Am I the only one who would love it if Tormund just accidentally killed Mance in disguise. That would be hilarious.


Troodos wrote:
Why didn't they (Save for Wun Wun of all people/sascwatches) use fire against the wights?

I don't think they had enough time or organization to extensively bring fire to bear against the wights. The wights pretty much overran Hardhome in less than a hour I would guess.

Had they had any sort of area they could realistically hold and defend while they got their stuff together...than yeah they probably would have.


MMCJawa wrote:
Troodos wrote:
Why didn't they (Save for Wun Wun of all people/sascwatches) use fire against the wights?

I don't think they had enough time or organization to extensively bring fire to bear against the wights. The wights pretty much overran Hardhome in less than a hour I would guess.

Had they had any sort of area they could realistically hold and defend while they got their stuff together...than yeah they probably would have.

I'd buy that, but the wildlings are smarter than that. They KNOW the Others are coming. They KNOW that wights need to be killed by fire to stay that way. They're paranoid enough to burn every dead body they find, but they don't have any defenses against the wights, like fire arrows or at least torches? Who did they think was going to attack them all the way in Hardhome, Shadowcats?


I think that even with 10 seasons(if the rumor is true) that characters and plots will still have to be chopped right and left. Right now, we are almost at the end of season 5 and 20 episodes to get everyone back to face off against the WW (if 7 seasons is the limit HBO will go) is darn tight.
If the TV series can't be finished, then there might be a comic run.

Liberty's Edge

MannyGoblin wrote:

I think that even with 10 seasons(if the rumor is true) that characters and plots will still have to be chopped right and left. Right now, we are almost at the end of season 5 and 20 episodes to get everyone back to face off against the WW (if 7 seasons is the limit HBO will go) is darn tight.

If the TV series can't be finished, then there might be a comic run.

10 seasons? I'm pretty sure HBO and/or the producers have there will be just 2 more seasons after this one ...


MannyGoblin wrote:

I think that even with 10 seasons(if the rumor is true) that characters and plots will still have to be chopped right and left. Right now, we are almost at the end of season 5 and 20 episodes to get everyone back to face off against the WW (if 7 seasons is the limit HBO will go) is darn tight.

If the TV series can't be finished, then there might be a comic run.

OR a movie.

I am waiting to see the Jamie storyline play out before I decide if I like the decision or not.

Sovereign Court

Troodos wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Isn't he already dead?

Also, I want to know what has happened to Benjen Stark.


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Troodos wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
Troodos wrote:
Why didn't they (Save for Wun Wun of all people/sascwatches) use fire against the wights?

I don't think they had enough time or organization to extensively bring fire to bear against the wights. The wights pretty much overran Hardhome in less than a hour I would guess.

Had they had any sort of area they could realistically hold and defend while they got their stuff together...than yeah they probably would have.

I'd buy that, but the wildlings are smarter than that. They KNOW the Others are coming. They KNOW that wights need to be killed by fire to stay that way. They're paranoid enough to burn every dead body they find, but they don't have any defenses against the wights, like fire arrows or at least torches? Who did they think was going to attack them all the way in Hardhome, Shadowcats?

Several Points:

The Wildlings didn't intentionally want to go to Hardhome...it was an unplanned detour after Stannis broke their army and caused them to flee. Likely a lot of supplies were left behind. I mean...Hardhome is a pretty horrible place to flee to.

They are basically sheltering in a ruined fort on a icy bay. Based on what we saw, there is very little in the way of wood or other fuel. They just don't have the supplies to set aside considerable stocks of oil and wood for defense, or to keep it readily available. and what stocks they have are probably better spent staying alive.

Finally...the Wildlings are notoriously undisciplined. That is the single biggest reason why they have continuously beaten by the Night Watch/Starks, even with superior numbers. Without discipline its difficult to keep stocks well prepared and ready for use, or to organize a good defense.


Hama wrote:
Troodos wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Isn't he already dead?

Also, I want to know what has happened to Benjen Stark.

Spoiler:
In the book Melissandre disguises Mance and Lord of Bones as each other, and it's Lord of Bones who gets burnt.

Marc Radle wrote:
MannyGoblin wrote:

I think that even with 10 seasons(if the rumor is true) that characters and plots will still have to be chopped right and left. Right now, we are almost at the end of season 5 and 20 episodes to get everyone back to face off against the WW (if 7 seasons is the limit HBO will go) is darn tight.

If the TV series can't be finished, then there might be a comic run.
10 seasons? I'm pretty sure HBO and/or the producers have there will be just 2 more seasons after this one ...

Well if it really is 7 seasons, in 2 seasons+2 episodes this will have to be dealt with,

Stannis/Bolton war (Sansa/Reek)
Tyrion/Dany &co.
Kings Landing(Cersei/Sparrows)
Bran
Arya
Jon/Wall and the WW
Dorne

Many plots. No surprise that things like Lady Stoneheart was cut and I doubt we'll see any of the fallout with the Freys.


Hama wrote:
Also, I want to know what has happened to Benjen Stark.

Like the Professor and Mary Osha, he's a castaway stranded on Gendry's Isle.


would be interesting if Benjen appeared in Hardhome, similar to Coldhands, and Jon had to fight him


Knoq Nixoy wrote:
would be interesting if Benjen appeared in Hardhome, similar to Coldhands, and Jon had to fight him

pssst

Spoiler:
Benjen IS coldhands


Question about Catelyn Stark:

Spoiler:
Doesn't she turn undead or something in the books? But she hasn't shown up again in the show -- did they just cut her as an extraneous character?


The answers to your questions are "Yes" and "So far".


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Spoiler:
Kind of. Bendric Dondarion brought her back. But between

How long she spent in the river
Bendric not being a red priest himself exactly,
Bendric having himself being resurrected more times than a bard with a bulls-eye corset
Resurrection seeming to take a bit out of you
Her throat getting cut
and/or some extreme emotional trauma she seems to have come back wrong, or at least with a nasty streak a mile wide.
We're not sure if she's alive and disfigured, or undead properly.

They seem to have cut that story line, but as it didn't go anywhere in the next two books there's still little if any reason they couldn't put it back in now if they chose. They could even use a different actress if they wanted, because she's under a hood most of the time.


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You really need to remember this part from book 3? before watching the latest episode


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Knoq Nixoy wrote:
would be interesting if Benjen appeared in Hardhome, similar to Coldhands, and Jon had to fight him

pssst

** spoiler omitted **

I'm afraid George has said that is not true.


Troodos wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Knoq Nixoy wrote:
would be interesting if Benjen appeared in Hardhome, similar to Coldhands, and Jon had to fight him

pssst

** spoiler omitted **

I'm afraid George has said that is not true.

ptbbhhs.. I'll believe that when he contradicts it.


Now remember, the second to last episode of the season is usually the best. if they can top last week....


MannyGoblin wrote:

My idea about what Ramsey is up to

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Which gets grayscale all over his troops, which lets stannis just walk in.

Spoiler:
I think Shireen is no longer contagious, if she was, she would be dead by this time. Mel is a candidate since she said she saw herself 'Being guided along the battlements.' Didn't say who was doing the guiding.


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Rar means "I love you" in dragon

Liberty's Edge

Just saw the episode ... Wow!


Wow, indeed!

As I was reading that scene in the book, I was all, "This is should be AWESOME when the TV show adapts it," and I was not disappointed.


Managed to top last week IMHO.

Episode 10 may even have some scenes which exceed the expectations of a normal season finale for GoT.

Sovereign Court

spoiler:
I was really hoping they would skip the danerys flying off into the desert tangent. It was rather dull in the books. Hopefully the show wont dwell on it for long. The arena scene was awesome however.


even the book, ADWD, looks good compared to this garbage episode


Confirmed my earlier assessment of Stannis' character.
Davos knew, as well. He had to have known.

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