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Is it just me, or has anyone else been extremely disappointed in this story. Between this and Morrison's work on Final Crisis, I'm convinced that the man has lost his mind and needs to be prevented (by force) from ever writing another comic book - ever!
For me, R.I.P. was disjointed and incomplete. There were a lot of holes. I've tried to reread it all, but that didn't help either.
It's a shame to, because I used to love Morrison's work. Legends of the Dark Knight - Gothic, and his run on both Doom Patrol and Justice League were all excellent.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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I haven't read this comic, but my sense is that Morrison doesn't think much of super-heroes, and there's a sense that he thinks he's slumming when he's writing for them. I loved the first half of his run on New X-Men, but it's clear he was making it up as he went along and the whole thing smashed like a trainwreck at the end.
After that, I could get excited for his non-superhero stuff like The Filth, but I just don't think he tries very hard when it comes to the capes.
Also, I read a story about him dropping acid and talking to Professor X about how the storyline in New X-Men should go. So I guess if I had any advice it would be less acid, fewer astral communications with fictional characters, and more outlining and follow-through on plot ideas.
Don't take my word for it, though. I've hardly read a comic in four years.
I've been thumbing through R.I.P and a few of the related reads and it's been a herculean effort for me to keep down my bile and turn the page. This is the worst work I've ever seen on an iconic character, and this is coming from someone who wrote letters to DC during the whole Death of Superman deal. It doesn't surprise me that Morrison's got a habit, as great as some of his earlier work has been he's starting to show signs of having trouble stringing long-term ideas together.
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Seems to be a very annoying trend in the comic book industry where everything is either the bad guys win or the good guys win but its a Pyrrhic victory. I remember one writer (or maybe it was an editor) at Marvel saying they were writing more to reflect how things are in real life but at the end of the day I read fantasy comics because they are fantasy. If I want to read about real life ill buy a newspaper.
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I would encourage anyone who is disappointed in Morrison's work on Batman to post something on the messageboards at the DC Comics Website. I did...it was very cathartic. The only thing better would be to actually meet Morrison face-to-face and tell him what I think.
What I fear the most of Batman RIP is the ever-looming magic reset button.
Beyond Barbara Gordon/Batgirl remaining broken, it seems that very few implications of major events "stick". You have to find "Superman from Earth 22" (aka the Superman from Kingdom Come) to delve into any real character development.
And it's not just a criticism of DC Comics, the whole Spider-man "Brand New Day" aka "Make a deal with the Devil to remove the last few years of real character development and change" really disappointed me as well!
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What I fear the most of Batman RIP is the ever-looming magic reset button.
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I hear you. Although I'm confused by your spoiler. I thought they hadn't yet officially revealed who was going to take Bruce Wayne's place as Batman. If you're correct, then I agree - leave him there.
As much as I despise what Morrison has done, it was more the way he did it. In my opinion, Bruce Wayne as Batman should die in a glorious final battle against his arch-enemy The Joker. He shouldn't be subjected to an insulting character deconstruction from some idiotic, come-from-nowhere wannabe with delusions of master criminal status. The whole "I'm Thomas Wayne" thing, along with the implications of the scandalous behavior involving Thomas, Martha, and Alfred wasn't so much a "shake-up" as it was an insult to nearly 70 years of history for one of the longest, continuously published literary figures. Leaving Bruce alive, but no longer with the desire to be Batman, is like adding insult to injury.
Ugh. So true. DC needs to stop letting people who hate Batman write Batman comics. First Frank Miller's hate letter to the fans (AKA All- star Batman) is released, now this. What is Dan Didio thinking?
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Dick makes sense as Batman. Does this mean Jason's going to 'move up' to Nightwing?
Of course all the batfamily titles (Nightwing, Birds of Prey, Robin, etc) are to be cancelled in Feburary. Though a Dick-as-Batman should deal with him being Dick Greyson, not becoming Bruce Wayne Lite. And Jim Gordon should know Immediately that it's not Bruce behind the mask, even if he doesn't 'know' who Batman is. He's not stupid.
Also what does this do to the Titans book?
if I was going to 'kill' Bruce Wayne, I'd start by killing Ras Al Ghul and making it clear he's not only dead, he's well and truely dead. Then work out the final battle between Batman and the Joker. Kill Bullock, kill Damien, kill Ace and Harold (if they're still there) Heck, kill Selina while you're at it, and maybe Barbara too. Then Batman gets killed, not by the Joker, but by taking a bullet for him, preferably fired by Jim Gordon, who kills the joker over Bruce's cooling body.
Then Tim, or Dick, or Anarchy, or even Stephanie take up the Batman mantle. Run with that for 18 or 24 months. Then start spreading hints that the Joker's not dead, they disprove that, to find rumours that Ras isn't dead. work those threads in for another year or two. let the new Batman face off against Bruce's most powerful foe...
Edit: And don't get me started on what Marvel's done with the X-men and the way they butchered Cap. *sigh* At least I have my memories of Captain America and what he stands for.
I thought they hadn't yet officially revealed who was going to take Bruce Wayne's place as Batman. If you're correct, then I agree - leave him there.
I thought...
The whole "I'm Thomas Wayne" thing, along with the implications of the scandalous behavior involving Thomas, Martha, and Alfred wasn't so much a "shake-up" as it was an insult to nearly 70 years of history for one of the longest, continuously published literary figures. Leaving Bruce alive, but no longer with the desire to be Batman, is like adding insult to injury.
I know -- the equivalent is finding the Jon and Martha Kent or Aunt May running a prostitution ring ("Don't make me pimp slap, you, Clark!") It's wrong, wrong, wrong.
So what happens to Red Robin? Isn't someone else wearing Jason Todd's old uniform? And I can't say I really care anything about Damien -- I guess I'm too much of a Dick Grayson fan.
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So what happens to Red Robin? Isn't someone else wearing Jason Todd's old uniform? And I can't say I really care anything about Damien -- I guess I'm too much of a Dick Grayson fan.
The Red Robin character is currently being utilized in Robin. Someone paid one of Robins old enemies to dress in the Red Robin outfit and cause trouble...
...a character I've disliked ever since they introduced him in the pages of - I believe - Detective Comics.
As for Damien - the Brat Wonder - what a terrible character. So very unlike Bruce Wayne or any of the Robins (even Jason Todd). I keep hoping that they'll just forget about him - I don't even think he deserves to be written out, since that would mean they'd have to include him in another story.
Speaking of Detective Comics, I enjoyed the "Heart of Hush" storyline. I thought it was well-written, with excellent characterization and plot. Again, Paul Dini shows that he really knows the Caped Crusader. I keep hoping they'll give Morrison the boot and make Dini head writer on both major Bat books...
Ugh. So true. DC needs to stop letting people who hate Batman write Batman comics. First Frank Miller's hate letter to the fans (AKA All- star Batman) is released, now this. What is Dan Didio thinking?
I love all-star batman and took a lot of flak for it until now. Yeah, All-Star Batman is (insert your kvetching comment here), but at least it ain't R.I.P. At least this Batman operates more or less in his own take-it-or-leave-it continuity; the effects of R.I.P. will be felt throughout the rest of the mainstream character's effective life.
Yeah, All-Star Batman is (insert your kvetching comment here)
"I'm the g**-damn Batman!"
Someone had to say it!
Here's a pretty good dissection of the All-Star Batman and Robin controversy..
I do like alternate takes on characters and time-periods, especially Gaiman's 1602, and I'm looking forward to Spiderman Noir, which looks like it will have a different take on Peter Parker.
I guess it's all what you enjoy!
I do have some fear concerning how far they take re-intrepretations... although "what if this superhero was less than perfect" storyline has been running (with the protection of that Magic Reset Button) as long as Red Kryptonite has been around, at least!
Hell yeah, g&*~%~n Batman.
Didn't know it was DC's highest selling title. Is there any proof behind this or is it wikipedia hype?
The reception piece didn't surprise me so much as the astonishing amount of mealy-mouthed frakking pansies masquerading as "comic journalists" did. Still, I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say about R.I.P- should any of them worship at the altar of THAT golden calf, I'll regard their later opinions with an even smaller grain of salt.
So can someone tell me what all happened in the Batman R.I.P. mini-series? Please spoil the entire thing for me.
yeah me too; are you guys saying Bats is dead; that kinda blows the whole anmima thing in the future I sometimes watch on a wierd spin.
Of course there was that one time when Superman dressed up as Batman and teamed up with the Robin when Batman was missing just to keep the criminals in place until Batman returned; course, of bats is getting old and has no prodengy; funny how being a crazy loon does that to you, but then, of course, there are always those guys that stumble onto the lair and take over being the batman but with a new twist; then the old bats returns of course; then all crazyiness breaks loose and the comic goes for another couple years and we dont know what the heck to make of it cause we are all looking for the dreaded clone or robot storyline that tends to make an appearance or, of course, the very dreaded, it was all a bad dream sequence; yuck.
Well at least between Joe Quesada and Dan Didio, I don't have to worry about spending any of my gaming cash on comics . . .
Having Batman's parents and Alfred this screwed up actually worse than Spiderman gaining his powers because of the will of a mysterious Spider God, so at least DC can say they trumped Marvel.
But hey, at least Superman is still the last Kryptonian . . . er . . . at least Superman and Krypto are the last . . . wait, at least Superman, Krypto, and Kara are the last . . . WTF . . . the WHOLE city of Kandor?
I haven't read this comic, but my sense is that Morrison doesn't think much of super-heroes, and there's a sense that he thinks he's slumming when he's writing for them. I loved the first half of his run on New X-Men, but it's clear he was making it up as he went along and the whole thing smashed like a trainwreck at the end.
I completely agree. I really liked the energy that the X-Men series seemed to have when it started out under him, but it seemed as time went on, he was honestly just looking for ways to screw with various characters in the book, and seemed to be intentionally trying to make old elements of the comic moot.
This seemed especially apparent when it came to the Weapon X program (Weapon Plus . . . please) and the Morrison's take on the "new" Phoenix saga, as well as going out of his way to Magneto, THE uber villain of the series, into a pathetic desperate parody of himself.
Well at least between Joe Quesada and Dan Didio, I don't have to worry about spending any of my gaming cash on comics . . .
Having Batman's parents and Alfred this screwed up actually worse than Spiderman gaining his powers because of the will of a mysterious Spider God, so at least DC can say they trumped Marvel.
But hey, at least Superman is still the last Kryptonian . . . er . . . at least Superman and Krypto are the last . . . wait, at least Superman, Krypto, and Kara are the last . . . WTF . . . the WHOLE city of Kandor?
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I hear all these rumors, bits and pieces but no one will tell me the story. Sigh! Will someone please tell me the R.I.P. Batman story? Now I'm finding out that they made changes to Spiderman as well. Can someone tell me that bedtime story as well?
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Well, the jury is still out on Batman , R.I.P. We have a good idea of some of what's happened, but parts of it have been lies, parts of it have been hallucinations, and not everything has been reconciled. The bits with the Waynes and Alfred were first presented as shocking ret-cons, but they appear now to be deliberate hoaxes.
So, at this point, who knows?
As for continuity, in general, things change. Some characters, like, oh, say, Daredevil, change so often that the book becomes discoherent after any given six months of issues.
The Peter-reveals-his-identity bit was part of the whole Superhero Registration Act, and I thought it was done pretty well. Tony Stark maneuvered Peter into being his protege, and into being a "good example" for the hero community. Everybody involved, from Peter and Mary Jane to Tony and the rest of the Avengers, was acting in accord with their characters and their reasonable agendas. And the stuffing hit the fan, and everyone from Peter's old friends to Jonah to the Kingpin reacted to the news.
And that led to the "One Last Day" travesty, wherein Peter and Mary-Jane acted completely outside their characters, and the entire Spider chronology was destroyed. (I haven't picked up the books since. I'm waiting for a "No More Mutants"-like reversal of the artificial reality Mephisto laid down.
Well, the jury is still out on Batman , R.I.P. We have a good idea of some of what's happened, but parts of it have been lies, parts of it have been hallucinations, and not everything has been reconciled. The bits with the Waynes and Alfred were first presented as shocking ret-cons, but they appear now to be deliberate hoaxes.
So, at this point, who knows?
As for continuity, in general, things change. Some characters, like, oh, say, Daredevil, change so often that the book becomes discoherent after any given six months of issues.
The Peter-reveals-his-identity bit was part of the whole Superhero Registration Act, and I thought it was done pretty well. Tony Stark maneuvered Peter into being his protege, and into being a "good example" for the hero community. Everybody involved, from Peter and Mary Jane to Tony and the rest of the Avengers, was acting in accord with their characters and their reasonable agendas. And the stuffing hit the fan, and everyone from Peter's old friends to Jonah to the Kingpin reacted to the news.
And that led to the "One Last Day" travesty, wherein Peter and Mary-Jane acted completely outside their characters, and the entire Spider chronology was destroyed. (I haven't picked up the books since. I'm waiting for a "No More Mutants"-like reversal of the artificial reality Mephisto laid down.
So the R.I.P. Batman storyline is still going on then? I thought the last issue had come out. I haven't read Spiderman for many years, I assume Mary Jane new Peter was Spiderman already? Is Aunt May still alive? Did she know he was Spiderman? What were their reactions when these characters found out?
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Pete and MJ had a daughter in the Clone Saga, who as kidnapped at the end, and then the storyline jumped forward a few months and neither one ever mentioned having a child ever again.
Pete ended up working for Tony Stark and on the Avengers, and there was a storyline, called "the Other," where Peter "died" and then came back out of a goofy cocoon and found out that he got his powers because of some weird spider god that manipulated events to make Peter the Chosen One, but the events of that story line were never really mentioned after that story arc, since they dove into Civil War after that.
Pete had, before being hired by Tony Stark, been working as a science teacher, after finishing his degree. During Civil War Pete revealed his identity, and then he was on the outs with Tony and couldn't live in Tony's private suites anymore. Kingpin had an assassin take a shot at Aunt May and put her in the hospital.
Mephistopheles showed up and offered Pete the chance to save Aunt May if he . . . sold his soul? No. If he allowed his marriage to be erased from the timestream. I guess MJ and Pete were so happy that it bugged everyone in the Lower Planes or something. Pete didn't want to do it, but MJ told Mephi that she would do it, on the condition that no one ever remember that Pete revealed his identity, and so it was done.
I've not looked at a single issue of Spiderman since then.
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So eventually Superman found Krypto, and the poor dog had to live at the Fortress of Solitude because of his ability to vaporize neighborhood cats, and Batman and Superman found Kara, who was sent to earth as a teenager to watch over baby Clark, but wasn't found until he was an adult.
For those of you keeping score, this means that Kryptonians apparently no longer develop an inability to live off of Krypton as adults, which as a major part of the explanation of why Clark was the only survivor, since the adults couldn't leave the planet.
Eventually Superman found a Kryptonian child and started raising it, and found out that it was General Zod's kid, and Zod not only had two allies, but a whole bunch, and they got free, etc.
Now, most recently, the shrunken city of Kandor is a-OK, an all of those Kryptonians that were living there are running loose on Earth, although so is Doomsday. So now instead of being the Last Son of Krypton, Superman is the First of the Last Sons of Krypton.
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So, he does this again during 52, then goes back to being Batman, then finds out that he had a son with Talia, Ra's al Ghul's daughter. Rather than having this happen the same way that it did in the old Son of the Demon storyline, Morrison has Talia drugging Batman and having sex with him while he's still wearing his bat mask.
So his son, brilliantly named Damian, tries to kill Robin off and take his place . . . oh yeah, and Talia has an army of Man Bat ninjas working for her too, since she figured out the formula for that.
There is some story that starts circulating that Thomas Wayne was abusive to Martha, and that Bruce is Alfred's son, conceived during a drug fueled orgy with a bunch of high society friends of the Waynes.
Bruce has some kind of mental breakdown and reverts to some self hypnosis induced alternate personality, starts talking to Batmite, and I start cussing and don't look at another Batman comic book for quite a while, praying that none of this crap ever shows up in the new movies . . .
The Thomas/Martha/Alfred stuff could easily turn out to be crap, but just the idea that it was even green lit as a storyline floors me.
okay.....
Given that I've been reading comics and reading FR novels since I was in junior high (even longer for the comics), last year was really, really rough when it came to my hobbies. I just got this feeling like either everyone assumed that I would keep buying if they put the logo on the product, or that they didn't really want me around anymore.
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I think the last Marvel I bought was the Inferno thing with Illyana, and I bought the AllStarSuperman series; I like Quitely's art a lot, and that series was cool as hell.
I buy The Goon devotedly, and I've just gotten into the Northlanders, though the current storyline is corny, the others were neato viking beheadings and stuff.
I usually stay away from Marvel/D.C. anymore, for the abovementioned reasons...
Batman Last Rites clears up some of the things brought up in the R.I.P. storyline.
The Black Glove society was using the story of Thomas and Martha Wayne to get to Bruce. Dr. Hurt (who ran him through a long sensory deprivation session - around the time of 52?) is a member of the Black Glove.
Nightwing didn't put on the bat-cape. He was simply holding it at the end of R.I.P. Batman had taken it off/it fell off before he jumped on the helicopter. After the helicopter crashed, everyone assumed batman died in the crash.
He didn't have a chance to let everyone know he was alive before he was captured.
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Superman:
Spiderman:
Batman:
yeah; and it has always bothered me; in such an advanced civilization that nobody; like no one person was off planet doing research or sight seeing or on vacation or doing some ambassidor duties or the like; such bunk.
Well at least between Joe Quesada and Dan Didio, I don't have to worry about spending any of my gaming cash on comics . . .
Having Batman's parents and Alfred this screwed up actually worse than Spiderman gaining his powers because of the will of a mysterious Spider God, so at least DC can say they trumped Marvel.
But hey, at least Superman is still the last Kryptonian . . . er . . . at least Superman and Krypto are the last . . . wait, at least Superman, Krypto, and Kara are the last . . . WTF . . . the WHOLE city of Kandor?
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Well, some of the concerns here seem to be complaints that large changes took place.
To be fair, the same thing could have been said when Doomsday killed Superman, or when Crisis on Infinitie Earths reset the DC Universe, or when Peter and Mary Jane were wed, or when Beta-Ray Bill came around, or when Zero Hour reset the DC Universe, or when House of M popped up, or when Infinite Crisis reset the DC Universe, ...
The Joker killed Robin. The Joker put Barbara Gordon in a wheelchair. the Joker killed Sarah Gordon. Those made for some well-written stories.
Batman's had his back broken, with Azrael taking over the cape and cowl. That exciting cornerstone didn't even leave any marks.
This, too, will either give us well-written stories or else, it won't leave any marks.
Part of the job of comics editors is to get the fans fired up and passionate about the current storylines. Given this thread, it seems to be doing its job.
(My complaint about "Brand New Day" isn't that it was new and change-y, but that it betrayed everything we'd known about Peter and Mary Jane. They had always brought out the best in each other, and they both recognized that. Accepting a deal from Mephisto didn't make sense.)
enjoyed that post Chris; thanks.
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This all sounds cool to me, actually.
I hated the way they "cleaned up" the Superman mythology in the 1980s, and vastly preferred the version with the Bottle City of Kandor, Krypto, and the rest.
I'm also glad they got rid of his mullet.
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I also don't think the X-men have had a decent storyline since #143 or so, in the early 80's. It's why they had to do all that Ultimates crap and reboot all those books.
Aw, c'mon now. Off the top of my head, here are some good X-Men stories that post-date #143:
The whole "storm loses her powers" saga was pretty cool.
The Mutant Massacre was really good.
Didn't some of the Starjammer/Imperial Guard stuff happen after #143?
The first half of Morrison's New X-Men was fantastic.
Um...................
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Allright....yeah, some of that was good.
I hated the Storm loses her powers thing though.
I think the Dark Phoenix story was so cool, that when they brought Jean Gray back I think the book sullied itsself.
Also, the umpteenth reiteration of the Days of Future Past just soured me on the whole thing.
And PsyLocke.....she's a prim Englishwoman. No, she's a Ninja.
I just got tired of it all.
This all sounds cool to me, actually.I hated the way they "cleaned up" the Superman mythology in the 1980s, and vastly preferred the version with the Bottle City of Kandor, Krypto, and the rest.
I'm also glad they got rid of his mullet.
The mullet was a big mistake. I'm not nearly as upset with the Superman recent developments as with Batman and Spiderman (or the Marvel Universe in general), I'm just kind of hoping they don't leave a legion of Kandor Kryptonians running around on Earth.
I actually kind of missed Supergirl, although I was always partial to her living in the future with the Legion.
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Heh I'm just out of phase I guess.
I liked the Mullet, I liked Linda/Matrix/Earth Angel. I'm glad to see resolution to Kandor, but still want to see how it plays out.
Oh and I loved the image of Superman with Mjolnier and Cap's shield. (Steve Rogers will always be Captain America)
Superman's never been my favourite, though I liked him more in the DCAU. Then again, DCAU is what got me interested in the Martian Manhunter, and John Stewart.
Marvel, unfortunately, irritates me more than anything now. Their editorial decisions vex me. DC I'm holding out hope for, I want to see how Final Crisis ends, and what happens with the Titans. I've loved Rose Wilson since they introduced her, and Vic and Dick have been my favourite DC heroes.
Heh I'm just out of phase I guess.
I liked the Mullet, I liked Linda/Matrix/Earth Angel. I'm glad to see resolution to Kandor, but still want to see how it plays out.
Oh and I loved the image of Superman with Mjolnier and Cap's shield. (Steve Rogers will always be Captain America)
Superman's never been my favourite, though I liked him more in the DCAU. Then again, DCAU is what got me interested in the Martian Manhunter, and John Stewart.
Marvel, unfortunately, irritates me more than anything now. Their editorial decisions vex me. DC I'm holding out hope for, I want to see how Final Crisis ends, and what happens with the Titans. I've loved Rose Wilson since they introduced her, and Vic and Dick have been my favourite DC heroes.
I think the biggest problem that DC has is that they have nowhere to go. They got a huge bump from the Infinite Crisis and the lead in mini series, and the 52 experiment worked, so why not go back to the same well . . . over and over again. Weekly series, massive crossover, Multiverse on the verge of destruction . . . but its hard to make anyone care about the same story running over and over again in close proximity . . . there was a reason there was 10 years between the original Crisis and Zero Hour.
I have to admit I stopped collecting Superman when Kandor appeared. I think they should have included a Kandor City Directory that shows where that "Magic Reset Button" is -- you know Kandor is not here to stay.
But, perhaps against my better judgment, I'm still going to give Supergirl a chance from January to March, just to read the Superwoman plot.
Also, I'll pick up Justice Society for the next three months, because I like Black Adam and the chance to see Mary Marvel go bad, and then just hold my breath, waiting for the new Justice League series. Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Supergirl, Shazam (aka formerly known as Cpt. Marvel Jr.), Ray Palmer, and a gorilla. Yes, everything is better with monkeys (or apes!)
Oh, and the Black Lanterns. I hope I'm not building up too much expectation, but I want to see something cool.... Black Lantern zombies, you're my only hope!
Does anyone know when the new Justice League is supposed to come out? I don't see it on DC Comics Online....
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Aw, c'mon now. Off the top of my head, here are some good X-Men stories that post-date #143:
The whole "storm loses her powers" saga was pretty cool.
The Mutant Massacre was really good.
Didn't some of the Starjammer/Imperial Guard stuff happen after #143?
The first half of Morrison's New X-Men was fantastic.
Um...................
Don't forget Joss Wheadon's run on Astonishing X-Men. Lots of good stuff there.
Don't forget Joss Wheadon's run on Astonishing X-Men. Lots of good stuff there.
I don't know. Between bringing back Colossus, who, like Jean Grey before him, actually died a touching and meaningful death in helping to cure the Legacy virus, and turning the Danger Room into a sentient being and saying the Professor X was a jerk enough to keep a sentient being enslaved . . . I'm not sure I'm that thrilled with Joss' run on the book.
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Between bringing back Colossus, who, like Jean Grey before him, actually died a touching and meaningful death in helping to cure the Legacy virus
Bringing back Colossus doesn't bother me. I pretty much expect dead comic book characters to come back to life every now and again. At least it was done reasonably well. I mean, Jean Grey was dying and coming back about once a month for a while there, wasn't she?
Plus, the Legacy Virus thing never really appealed to me all that much. It started out as a half-way decent metaphor for AIDS (which was pretty cool to have in a comic book in the early/mid 90s) but it quickly dissolved into an 8 year long plot device used to kill minor characters that no one really cared about anyway.
Personally, I love the way that Astonishing X-Men has handled Cyclops. I think this is the first time I've ever been able to put "Cyclops" and "awesome" in the same sentence without laughing uncontrollably. That, and Astonishing X-Men revolves mainly around Emma Frost and Kitty Pride. Who better to handle strong female characters than Joss Whedon?
Oh, and Prof. X has an evil twin that he telepathically killed in the womb.
Love. It.
