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RPG Superstar™ 2009 General Discussion

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Kvantum wrote:

Well, my idea went by the wayside because of the "Boot Item" rule.

But are we allowed to reference spells from the Web Enhancement in a submission or not?

Guys,

There is no such thing as a "boot item rule." That was just a list of item types we received last year, many of which happened to be bad. That doesnt mean we would reject boot items or augury items or other items from my "bad submission stereotypes" thread.

It isnt a rule.

Clark

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Starglim wrote:

In the new magic item creation guidelines, completing each item requires a skill check against Spellcraft or (in the case of a Wondrous Item) any suitable Craft or Profession check.

The magic items web enhancement doesn't include any example stat blocks for ordinary magic items. Magic item stat blocks in the Beta rulebook and spells/magic items web enhancement don't include any notation for the required skills to create.

For Round 1, are we expected to state the skill required to construct the item? If so, where should it go in the stat block?

The Craft skill to be used should be noted under the Construction heading and should look like this.

CONSTRUCTION
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, erase, meteor swarm; Skill Craft (basketweaving); Cost 84 gp

(Although I should note that this is a new system and I don't think you will be DQ'd for leaving this out, unless of course, the judges say that you will be)

Hope that helps

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka JoelF847

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Starglim wrote:

In the new magic item creation guidelines, completing each item requires a skill check against Spellcraft or (in the case of a Wondrous Item) any suitable Craft or Profession check.

The magic items web enhancement doesn't include any example stat blocks for ordinary magic items. Magic item stat blocks in the Beta rulebook and spells/magic items web enhancement don't include any notation for the required skills to create.

For Round 1, are we expected to state the skill required to construct the item? If so, where should it go in the stat block?

The Craft skill to be used should be noted under the Construction heading and should look like this.

CONSTRUCTION
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, erase, meteor swarm; Skill Craft (basketweaving); Cost 84 gp

Hope that helps

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Now you've got me thinking of what kind of wondrous item would need both erase and meteor swarm, and would be made using basketweaving....maybe a Reed Basket of Explosive Glyph Removal? Fingercuffs of Impacting Rune Stealing?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

JoelF847 wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

CONSTRUCTION

Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, erase, meteor swarm; Skill Craft (basketweaving); Cost 84 gp
Now you've got me thinking of what kind of wondrous item would need both erase and meteor swarm, and would be made using basketweaving....maybe a Reed Basket of Explosive Glyph Removal? Fingercuffs of Impacting Rune Stealing?

Perhaps a Lacrosse Stick of Ballistic Wite-Out? I'd buy that for 84 gp...

Liberty's Edge

Clark Peterson wrote:
Kvantum wrote:

Well, my idea went by the wayside because of the "Boot Item" rule.

But are we allowed to reference spells from the Web Enhancement in a submission or not?

Guys,

There is no such thing as a "boot item rule." That was just a list of item types we received last year, many of which happened to be bad. That doesnt mean we would reject boot items or augury items or other items from my "bad submission stereotypes" thread.

It isnt a rule.

Clark

Thanks for the clarification Clark. I was concerned I had missed something in the official rules for a moment.

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Vic Wertz wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

CONSTRUCTION

Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, erase, meteor swarm; Skill Craft (basketweaving); Cost 84 gp
Now you've got me thinking of what kind of wondrous item would need both erase and meteor swarm, and would be made using basketweaving....maybe a Reed Basket of Explosive Glyph Removal? Fingercuffs of Impacting Rune Stealing?
Perhaps a Lacrosse Stick of Ballistic Wite-Out? I'd buy that for 84 gp...

That is the cost to create...

The item itself would be 168 gp... but wait, there's more.

Order in the next 5 minutes and I will throw in not one, but two baskets of ultimate spellbook destruction.

-Jason

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
The item itself would be 168 gp... but wait, there's more. Order in the next 5 minutes and I will throw in not one, but two baskets of ultimate spellbook destruction.

Does that work like a bag of devouring...only you place spellbooks in the basket and it "disposes" of them from there? Self-contained meteor swarm in a basket. I'd say that would erase just about anything. ;-)

--Neil

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Perhaps a Lacrosse Stick of Ballistic Wite-Out? I'd buy that for 84 gp...

That is the cost to create...

The item itself would be 168 gp...

I am so not an RPG Superstar.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka Epic Meepo

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
The Craft skill to be used should be noted under the Construction heading...

Does an item that uses Spellcraft (the default skill) need to note that under Construction? Or is a skill only listed if the item uses something other than the default?

Grand Lodge Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8

Thanks! Now I just need to figure out what skill would create this particular item. Profession (general store keeper)?

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Epic Meepo wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
The Craft skill to be used should be noted under the Construction heading...
Does an item that uses Spellcraft (the default skill) need to note that under Construction? Or is a skill only listed if the item uses something other than the default?

As the default, Spellcraft does not need to be listed. If an item only uses Spellcraft, the skill portion is not listed.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Marathon Voter Season 9

Starglim wrote:
Thanks! Now I just need to figure out what skill would create this particular item. Profession (general store keeper)?

Clearly a magic till. Mmmm...brass clock workie goodness.....


Set wrote:
Blackdirge wrote:
With a really bad name and heaps of useless backstory. Oh, and make sure your entry begins with a poem. The judges frickin' love poetry. =] BD

It will be a humorous limirick, because they also love joke items.

I think I'll also devote some space to an ascii art 'drawing' of the item. I wonder how many 'words' that would count as?

Also, some sentences with prepositions, end I will. To talk like Yoda, I must.

Picture = Thousand words. But if you write words backwards, they count as negative.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 aka Aotrscommander

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Epic Meepo wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
The Craft skill to be used should be noted under the Construction heading...
Does an item that uses Spellcraft (the default skill) need to note that under Construction? Or is a skill only listed if the item uses something other than the default?

As the default, Spellcraft does not need to be listed. If an item only uses Spellcraft, the skill portion is not listed.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Thanks for clearing that up. I was just about to have a panic attack, actually, since adding another couple of words would have meant serious reediting of my item. (I tend to fill my word quota to the letter!)

I have had my item mostly prepared (albeit with some last minute revisions after a time to cool off) prepared since the contest was announced; i.e before the new rules came out and I only just heard about them this morning... I'd have had a heart attack.

Y'know, if I had a heart, which I don't on account of, y'know, being a Lich an' all.

Dark Archive

Vic Wertz wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

CONSTRUCTION

Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, erase, meteor swarm; Skill Craft (basketweaving); Cost 84 gp
Now you've got me thinking of what kind of wondrous item would need both erase and meteor swarm, and would be made using basketweaving....maybe a Reed Basket of Explosive Glyph Removal? Fingercuffs of Impacting Rune Stealing?
Perhaps a Lacrosse Stick of Ballistic Wite-Out? I'd buy that for 84 gp...

Basket of editorial feedback -- if you put a piece of writing into the basket that contains any grammatical errors then the basket erases the text, and meteor swarms you.

Trouble is I can't get the price down low enough... single use, use activated (by putting a book into the basket) meteor swarm is 31.5k, plus (1 x 1 x 50 x 0.75 = ) 37.5 for the erase, reduce it by requiring profession:editor (-10%) and alignment:CE (-30%)...

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7 aka Demiurge 1138

Last year, it was stated that contestants had to use their real names. Does this mean that, in order to enter, I should

a) Not worry about it, because my real name is in my personal settings?
b) Create an alias account using my real name?
c) Create a completely new account using my real name?
d) Create a profile with my real name in it?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka JoelF847

Demiurge 1138 wrote:

Last year, it was stated that contestants had to use their real names. Does this mean that, in order to enter, I should

a) Not worry about it, because my real name is in my personal settings?
b) Create an alias account using my real name?
c) Create a completely new account using my real name?
d) Create a profile with my real name in it?

Last year, I used my standard account, and Paizo lifted my real name from the personal settings. So you shouldn't need to create anything different.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

JoelF847 wrote:
Last year, I used my standard account, and Paizo lifted my real name from the personal settings. So you shouldn't need to create anything different.

Ditto.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Demiurge 1138 wrote:

Last year, it was stated that contestants had to use their real names. Does this mean that, in order to enter, I should

a) Not worry about it, because my real name is in my personal settings?
b) Create an alias account using my real name?
c) Create a completely new account using my real name?
d) Create a profile with my real name in it?

"A" is correct.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

magdalena thiriet wrote:
Picture = Thousand words. But if you write words backwards, they count as negative.

So does a photographic negative mean you owe the viewer a thousand words?

Dark Archive RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 aka Fatespinner

Vic Wertz wrote:
magdalena thiriet wrote:
Picture = Thousand words. But if you write words backwards, they count as negative.
So does a photographic negative mean you owe the viewer a thousand words?

Or do they owe you a thousand negative words? Important distinction.

Marathon Voter Season 9

Vic Wertz wrote:
magdalena thiriet wrote:
Picture = Thousand words. But if you write words backwards, they count as negative.
So does a photographic negative mean you owe the viewer a thousand words?

I've got a thousand words that I never spoke,

see I broke down codes at an early age,
filled the page, filled my ears with rage,

Dark Archive

Wow, I went through all this effort to make myself a style guide of what words to capitalize, what words to italicize, what terms to boldface, where the lines go and all that jazz, and the darn submission page strips them all out anyway...

Grr. It's not all pretty like I made it!

Ah well, the fun thing about being a perfectionist is always having irrelevant stuff that nobody else cares about to grouse about. :)

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6

Set wrote:

Wow, I went through all this effort to make myself a style guide of what words to capitalize, what words to italicize, what terms to boldface, where the lines go and all that jazz, and the darn submission page strips them all out anyway...

Grr. It's not all pretty like I made it!

Ah well, the fun thing about being a perfectionist is always having irrelevant stuff that nobody else cares about to grouse about. :)

You have to use the BBCode tags (click "Show" below the message box) to do them. Getting them right for the higher-round entries was a nightmare last year.

I recommend cutting-and-pasting what you have to notepad, clicking Preview, correcting, cut-and-paste again, etc. until it looks just right.

Dark Archive Star Voter Season 6

There was no confirmation screen after submitting an entry for round 1. Any way we can make sure the entry got through?

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6

DarienCR wrote:
There was no confirmation screen after submitting an entry for round 1. Any way we can make sure the entry got through?

If it's like last year, when you go back to the screen you should see something to the effect of you submitted. But that may only be for the later rounds.


I TOTALLY hear you Set!

I also could NOT preview what I wrote, nor would it allow me to access the BBCode tab. All that beautiful setup... It better not have changed the format to something outside the rules parameters!

You shouldn't need to be a BBCoder to submit your pretty work anyway! =p

The confirmation should still exist on the RPG Superstar main page. It will thank you for your submission right below the graphic for the contest.

Dark Archive

Russ Taylor wrote:

You have to use the BBCode tags (click "Show" below the message box) to do them. Getting them right for the higher-round entries was a nightmare last year.

I recommend cutting-and-pasting what you have to notepad, clicking Preview, correcting, cut-and-paste again, etc. until it looks just right.

My Notepad doesn't have a preview feature, so I'll skip that version (still using Office 2003, so I guess I should upgrade some year...).

Thanks for the tip! Having gone through all the trouble of making myself a style guide, I'd like to get to *use* it. :)

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6

Set wrote:
Russ Taylor wrote:

You have to use the BBCode tags (click "Show" below the message box) to do them. Getting them right for the higher-round entries was a nightmare last year.

I recommend cutting-and-pasting what you have to notepad, clicking Preview, correcting, cut-and-paste again, etc. until it looks just right.

My Notepad doesn't have a preview feature, so I'll skip that version (still using Office 2003, so I guess I should upgrade some year...).

Thanks for the tip! Having gone through all the trouble of making myself a style guide, I'd like to get to *use* it. :)

I meant preview on the boards. Now that I think about it, what I was doing was using a board thread to preview my entry, THEN going to the submission page and cutting-and-pasting it in. Kind of a work-around for not having Preview on the Superstar entry page.

Have to be sure you don't accidentally post your entry in a public thread while you're doing it, though.

Dark Archive

Russ Taylor wrote:

I meant preview on the boards. Now that I think about it, what I was doing was using a board thread to preview my entry, THEN going to the submission page and cutting-and-pasting it in. Kind of a work-around for not having Preview on the Superstar entry page.

Have to be sure you don't accidentally post your entry in a public thread while you're doing it, though.

I just figured out to do that very thing. Thanks again!

And, I've submitted, after fretting multiple times over whether or not I forgot to close a tag. No confirmation appeared anywhere on the page, but I know these boards are wonky and often don't confirm a new post / thread / thingie for 30 minutes or so anyway.

I'll check again tomorrow to see if it failed to submit or something.

Dark Archive Star Voter Season 6

Russ Taylor wrote:
If it's like last year, when you go back to the screen you should see something to the effect of you submitted. But that may only be for the later rounds.

Nope, I get the form again. A confirmation would be nice, I wouldn't like to miss participation because of my entry getting lost in the way.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Godsdog10 wrote:
You shouldn't need to be a BBCoder to submit your pretty work anyway! =p

Using correct BBCode is not a requirement of the contest.


Woot! *hugs Vic, then comes to his senses* Sorry man.. =)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

DarienCR wrote:
Russ Taylor wrote:
If it's like last year, when you go back to the screen you should see something to the effect of you submitted. But that may only be for the later rounds.
Nope, I get the form again. A confirmation would be nice, I wouldn't like to miss participation because of my entry getting lost in the way.

If you're seeing the form, we didn't get your submission...

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Vic Wertz wrote:
Godsdog10 wrote:
You shouldn't need to be a BBCoder to submit your pretty work anyway! =p
Using correct BBCode is not a requirement of the contest.

Using *incorrect* BBCode won't help either. And using HTML instead of BBCode, well...

Dark Archive Star Voter Season 6

Thanks Vic. I resubmitted my entry and I got a confirmation this time.

Dark Archive

Vic Wertz wrote:
If you're seeing the form, we didn't get your submission...

Thanks for the tip. Re-submitting.

And it says 'entry has been submitted' this time, very cool. :)


In the original SRD, when determining the cost for a magic item, XP was factored in by multiplying the XP required by 5 in order to get the GP for the market price. In the beta Pathfinder rules there is nothing about having an XP cost when creating items. The problem is that this makes it so that items are much less expensive than they should be. For example, an item with a single use of a 9th level spell would now be really inexpensive. We have been told to use the Pathfinder rules over the SRD but I am not sure how to handle this.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka JoelF847

Jedimonkey wrote:
In the original SRD, when determining the cost for a magic item, XP was factored in by multiplying the XP required by 5 in order to get the GP for the market price. In the beta Pathfinder rules there is nothing about having an XP cost when creating items. The problem is that this makes it so that items are much less expensive than they should be. For example, an item with a single use of a 9th level spell would now be really inexpensive. We have been told to use the Pathfinder rules over the SRD but I am not sure how to handle this.

The Pathfinder Beta rules don't have XP costs at all. So, if you're making a magic item using a spell that previously had an XP cost, that spell now has a gp cost instead (generally of 5gp per XP). Therefore, if you're making an item that uses a spell that used to have an XP cost, use the new gp cost of the spell. See p. 19 of the Pathfinder magic item web enhancement for more details.


Is there a way to double check that a wondrous item submission went through for the contest? I didn't get a confirmation screen and just want to be certain...
Thanks

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Kala Winger wrote:
Is there a way to double check that a wondrous item submission went through for the contest? I didn't get a confirmation screen and just want to be certain...

If you go to the RPG Superstar page, and you see a box just beneath the logo that reads, "Click here to submit your entry for this round of RPG Superstar!" then your submission didn't go through.

If the box says, "Thanks for entering RPG Superstar—good luck!" then the judges have one more entry to judge.

If you don't see a box at all, you need to sign in. This season I forgot to make the box say "Sign in to submit an entry for RPG Superstar." I'll probably fix that on Monday.


Thank you!


similar to the Carpet of Flying on pg 370 of the pathfinder beta playtest book, I have a table I need to put in the description of my item. However, if I separate the colums by tabs and then preview the post, it jumbles them together.

If I click on the show button beside "BBCode Tags you can use" nothing happens (except I get the "error on page" note in the lower left hand corner).

I can separate the data in the table by slashes or dashes, but those take my word total over 200 (at least MS Office considers them words when I do a word count check).

So, is there a way to use BBcode to correct the format of my table? Or, can i just use slashes and not have them count against my 200 word limit?

Dedicated Voter Season 6

Like.......this......maybe?
Write.....with.....dots
but........no........spaces

Done that way each line will count as one word (at least, according to MS Word).

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Mystendanian wrote:
I can separate the data in the table by slashes or dashes, but those take my word total over 200 (at least MS Office considers them words when I do a word count check).

The judges may disagree, but I think in this case, MS Word would be right to count them. The limit is not "200 words plus a table"—any words or numbers in the table should count towards your total.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012 , Star Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 9

Vic Wertz wrote:
Mystendanian wrote:
I can separate the data in the table by slashes or dashes, but those take my word total over 200 (at least MS Office considers them words when I do a word count check).
The judges may disagree, but I think in this case, MS Word would be right to count them. The limit is not "200 words plus a table"—any words or numbers in the table should count towards your total.

I don't think he's concerned about the words *in* the table. It's the artificial characters he has to add to make it look like a proper table that he's concerned about adding to the word count.

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative , Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

I don't know if this will ultimately help or hurt, but MS Word (2002) doesn't count em dashes as words. I noticed that when including the slot and weight.


taig is correct - the words in the table are not my concern. just the characters needed to format the words to align them into columns

I've read through several threads and haven't seen this question addressed. If possible, i'd like an official ruling on this. My item is ready for submission but I'd hate to be DQ'd for something lame - if anything lame is going to stand in the way of my success, it will be my item!


Gary Teter wrote:

If you go to the RPG Superstar page, and you see a box just beneath the logo that reads, "Click here to submit your entry for this round of RPG Superstar!" then your submission didn't go through.

If the box says, "Thanks for entering RPG Superstar—good luck!" then the judges have one more entry to judge.
If you don't see a box at all, you need to sign in. This season I forgot to make the box say "Sign in to submit an entry for RPG Superstar." I'll probably fix that on Monday.

I was logged in, submitted my item, and am still getting the "Click here to submit entry.." message on main page.

I don't want to auto disqualify myself by submitting the item again only to find out it actually went through the first time. Is there anyone that can confirm whether I do indeed have to submit it again?

Dark Archive

Keith Duperreault wrote:
Gary Teter wrote:

If you go to the RPG Superstar page, and you see a box just beneath the logo that reads, "Click here to submit your entry for this round of RPG Superstar!" then your submission didn't go through.

If the box says, "Thanks for entering RPG Superstar—good luck!" then the judges have one more entry to judge.

I was logged in, submitted my item, and am still getting the "Click here to submit entry.." message on main page.

I don't want to auto disqualify myself by submitting the item again only to find out it actually went through the first time. Is there anyone that can confirm whether I do indeed have to submit it again?

Gary's directions, quoted above, state that if you are still seeing 'click here to submit entry,' that it didn't go through. Resubmit, and if you see 'Thanks for entering' or 'Your item has been submitted' or something, you've made it.

I'm pretty sure that even if you could accidentally submit the same item more than once, it wouldn't count as submitting more than one item for disqualification purposes...

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