I did also post this in a Beta errata Thread, as
I'm not syre this is an error in Beta or in the Pathfinder Campaign
Setting (PCS)
In Beta under the cleric's weapon and armor proficincies (page 20)
is mentioned:
Clerics are also proficient with the favored weapon of their deities
PCS (page 43) Holy warrior heading
Holy warrior (Ex): A cleric with this ability is proficient with her deity's favored weapon.........
Please explain or change the fault.
I did also post this in a Beta errata Thread, as
I'm not syre this is an error in Beta or in the Pathfinder Campaign
Setting (PCS)In Beta under the cleric's weapon and armor proficincies (page 20)
is mentioned:
Clerics are also proficient with the favored weapon of their deitiesPCS (page 43) Holy warrior heading
Holy warrior (Ex): A cleric with this ability is proficient with her deity's favored weapon.........
Please explain or change the fault.
The PCS is written for standard 3.5, as the PFRPG hasn't been finalized yet. Since in standard 3.5 clerics didn't get automatic proficiency with their deity's preferred weapon, the PCS ability gives them that. Hope that helps. ^_^
I hope that this is supposed to go here...
Pg. 209
For the ogre hook, the weight column is empty and the range increment is listed as 10 lb.
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By the way, what exactly is a 'sandkraken'? I have seen mention of the creature now, in both the Alkenstar and Geb entries.
I checked the Appendix D tables in the hope of finding one mentioned there (with a reference), but with no result.
A sandkraken is a new monster we haven't statted up yet. Basically a big tentacly monster that lives in the sand, though.
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Curious about the 'alternate' class abilities, are they in addition to the normal class abilities? Or do they replace something? I've tried to find a reference to this, and found nothing.
The last paragraph of each class lists what a character gives up to achieve an alternate class ability. We should have probably put that information up with the alternate ability, though... just to make it more clear.
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This is more a request for clarification:
On pg. 119:
Osiriani Blade Binding
When blade binding, an attacker first catches his opponent’s
weapon in the crook of his khopesh. He then twists his
khopesh, locking the two blades together, forcing both blades
from their guard positions. The attacker then strikes with an
off-hand weapon or surprises his opponent with a sudden
unarmed attack.
This confused me a little, since a khopesh is in fact two-handed. I suppose an unarmed attack (like a foot kick) might be allowed, but an off-hand weapon? I'm sure GMs can fudge this for themselves and do what makes sense, I just wasn't sure if it needed any explanation.
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While you can blade bind with a khopesh, you can only take advantage of the off-hand attack or unarmed attack if you have the means to do so without using your two hands on the khopesh. Creatures with multiple arms can do this easy, as can creatures with natural weapons. Monks (or anyone else with Improved Unarmed Strike) could kick at a foe to get the unarmed attack.
A sandkraken is a new monster we haven't statted up yet. Basically a big tentacly monster that lives in the sand, though.By the way, what exactly is a 'sandkraken'? I have seen mention of the creature now, in both the Alkenstar and Geb entries.
I checked the Appendix D tables in the hope of finding one mentioned there (with a reference), but with no result.
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Clarification request: Since this city of 10,300, is going from sea-level (it has a harbor) up to an altitude where snow falls, is it a very steep mountainside that the 'many-tiered pagoda city of Niswan' is built on?
Uhm. Snow can fall at sea level.
...What they discovered in the vaults beneath could not be named- nor unseen....
'Unseen' should have been 'seen'?
No, of course not. They saw it, now they can't unsee it, no matter how much they might wish they could. It's a poetic way of saying it's horrifying and maddening.
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Working backwards.
I have checked the 'world map' at the back of the book, and both the Andoran and Cheliax maps (which also cover parts of Isger), but with no trace showing of these elusive straits.
They're the two major waterways that form the southern and western borders of the daggone country, man!
but if the 'Conerica Straits' are a network of roadways, a tighter, clearer, definition would have been helpful; perhaps: 'Today, the Conerica Straits, Isger's famed roads network, slashes across the state, leading from Cheliax in the southwest all the way to Druma to the northeast.
Perhaps a better rewrite would be "Today, Isger's Conerica Straits provide the backbone for a web of roadways slashing across the state,...
...If you succeed in confirming a critical hit, the threat range of your attacks resets to normal and you may further make an opposed intimidate check as an immediate action...
is the 'further' necessary?
Some manner of conjunction meaning 'and in addition' is needed.
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Is 'stories' the US plural for 'storeys'?
It is.
Should 'and rare wood in every timber' be 'and every timber a rare wood'?
Hm. That would depend on if the timbers are homogeneous or not. I'm not aware of a way to make timbers of more than one wood, but magic and all, what?
On the hilly outcrop into Lake Encarthan, Detmer is the shipyard where the merchants' flat-bottom barges and sprightly caravels are launched...
Quibble: If it is a shipyard, surely Detmer is almost at lake level? I am also uncertain about the use of outcrop.
The lake is ON the hilly outcrop, thus Detmer is at lake level.
EDIT TO REMOVE DIAGRAM THAT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT [PRE] TAGS
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Uhm. Snow can fall at sea level.
It only happened once in three years on the west coast of Wales whilst I was there, and the Welsh climate is *a lot* cooler than the Jalmeray climate I suspect.
The Atlantic coast of the US has a cold water current running down it. I'm not certain that the geography of Golarion would allow one off Jalmeray.
On the other hand, Wales has the friggin' Jet Stream running right up the coast, so it's not exactly a model for "normal" weather, either.
Now, given that, upon looking at my map, Jalmeray *is* equatorial or near to it, yeah, I would assume there would have to be a mountain. :)
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Osirion map on p. 117
Ipeq is named as a noticeable settlement, but isn't to be found on the map. I think it's the settlement which is named THE CROOK on the map and The Crook is actually the western arm of the River Sphinx. This is how it is shown on the big campaign map, accompanying the setting book.
Osirion map on p. 117
Ipeq is named as a noticeable settlement, but isn't to be found on the map. I think it's the settlement which is named THE CROOK on the map and The Crook is actually the western arm of the River Sphinx. This is how it is shown on the big campaign map, accompanying the setting book.
I noticed that as well. In any event that's the spot on the map where Ipeq shood indeed be located, and I think I mentioned it to James already for attention on the map(s) for the forthcoming Osirion supplement.
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P. 87...Okeno's notorious yellow-sailed slave galleys regularly ply the sealanes, carrying living cargo from Avistan, Garund, and beyond...'Sealanes' needs a hyphen or space inserted according to my MS Word spellchecker.
I'd normally chide you for using MS Word spell check in lieu of proper proofing, but in this case Microsoft got it right. :)
Errors logged!
(and yes... Ipeq/the Crook is a little messed up... we'll fix that)
I haven't read through this entire thread, but does this mean that a later printing will have corrected these things? B/c I would buy such a reprinting, just so you know.
Thanks to the OP and others for contributing to this.
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James or Erik, could you answer a question for me (not including this one)?
In my PbP, one of the dwarves is a worshipper of Torag. It came up that Torag has military planners as followers and strategy in his portfolio - yet his domains don't really reflect this.
Was this an issue of just not having an appropriate domain, or did you intend the combination of domains to reflect these elements of Torag?
I'm hesitant to houserule the War domain, as that is a bit too involved in combat.
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Now, I'm just one guy talking, here - but Charles raises VERY good questions, and as the guy who worked on the Jalmeray section, I wanted to chime in!
Obviously, my answers aren't official Paizo/Pathfinder-Canon answers, but I'll try to give you info on what my design intentions were.
'High adventure', yes, 'high seas', certainly, 'high Obari' I'm not so certain about. It reads (with the proper noun) as if the 'high' is an indication of altitude... :D
*grin*
I, for one, really like the term 'high Obari', and believe it's taken right from the original Gazetteer entry. In fact, it's meant to invoke a feeling of 'high seas'/'high adventure'.
As to questions of physical altitude, rather than of poetry: perhaps the seas themselves DO swell - almost supernaturally! While that may sound silly, this IS a fantasy universe, and at the very least it would help to explain the lack of ocean-going vessels moving across those waters ... with the exception of those piloted by powerful elementalists from Vudra.
Query: this last piece reads as if the people of Jalmeray are servants of (or at least have an obligation to) the 'powerful spirits'; Do I understand correctly that this is an aspect of the 'mysterious eastern religions' that are part of the social & religious fabric of Jalmeray?
My guess is "Yes". The people of Jalmeray pay daily homage to gods, spirits and demons in a way that is truly alien to all other people of the Inner Sea - obsessively, to a point that if the Smiling Thakur told them not to, the people would simply ignore him.
In Jalmeray, you obey the dictates of the giant dancing-elephant statue in your backyard.
Clarification request: Since this city of 10,300, is going from sea-level (it has a harbour) upto an altitude where snow falls, is it a very steep mountainside that the 'many-tiered pagoda city of Niswan' is built on?
Yeah, I imagine the city looking sort of like Rio - miles of water, vast craggy bluffs, and buildings set into all of them.
Now, while there are no true mountains (or even hills!) noted on the PCCS Poster Map for the area around Niswan, I assume that such a thing is due to the scale of the map - while Padiskar and Niswan appear to be VERY close, there's actually more than one hundred miles between the two - about a week's worth of travel by wagon, as the crow flies.
So maybe there ARE cliffs, but not big enough to be seen on the map.
As to snow at sea-level: the entire island was (and is!) the playground of Nex, the mighty Maharaja, and hundreds of other powerful elemental spell-casters & elemental creatures. I would believe that it could snow at sea level here, even in height of tropical summer.
'Unseen' should have been 'seen'?
No - this was me being poetical. The horror beneath Padiskar is so bad, it was beyond the power of even the mightiest Arclords to ever even forget.
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P. 222...envious Belimarius in Edaasseril...'Edaasseril' should be 'Edasseril', as on the map (p. 222) and in the Rise of the Runelords AP?
P. 88
Ruler: Queen Telandia Edasseril, the Viridian CrownJames Jacobs:
As a matter of interest, why does the elven queen have 'Edasseril' in common with the ancient Thassilonian realm of the Runelord of Envy? Before I let my imagination run wild, I'd prefer to check if there is an official reason for this yet, since I'm doubtful it could just be a complete coincidence?
As I mentioned on the chat earlier tonight... it's a coincidence born out of the fact that having to come up with hundreds of brand-new names in the course of a few months sometimes ends up with duplicates like this, alas, especially when those hundreds of names have to come from one brain.
THAT SAID: In game, I think the explanation behind this is that the name Edasseril is an ancient elven name, one that the elves of Celwynvian used. Likely, one of their leaders during the rise of Thassilon (which grew up around Celwynvian and the Mierani Forest but did not absorb the region, for the elves were already there) was taken with the name, perhaps even had a romantic relationship with an Edasseril. Which opens all matter of intriguing possibilities...
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... more answers!
It does not say that the monk does not have to meet the pre-requisites, which could be a problem for some 6th level monks given that one pre-requisite is a base attack bonus of +6.
My fault entirely. No, they need not meet the prerequisites in order to take this feat.
Given that a 4th level monk (under 3.5) acquires ki strike(magic), does a 9th level monk who acquires the 'Secret of Steel-Shattering Spirit' feat for the second time skip straight to lawful overcoming of damage reduction when using the feat, automatically acquiring the cold iron and silver bypasses as well?
No. In such an instance (a 9th-level monk with two applications of this feat), the monk's strikes would be treated as magic, plus adamantine & cold iron when focusing his ki & activating the feat.
When such a monk advances to 10th level in the monk class (acquiring ki strike(lawful)) do his Secret of Steel-Shattering Spirit attacks automatically upgrade to include epic?
No. The monk's strikes would be treated as magic & lawful, plus adamantine and cold iron when focusing his ki & activating the feat. Upon taking the feat a third time, the monk's strikes would be treated as adamantine, cold iron AND silver while focusing his ki & activating the feat.
Upon reaching 16th level, wherein the monk will attain permanent adamantine ki strikes (in addition to the permanent magic and lawful properties), the three feats would add the cold iron, silver and epic properties to the monk's strikes while he was focusing his ki and activating the feat.
(This feat invites confusion!!!!)
Agreed! I apologize, most profusely!
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James or Erik, could you answer a question for me (not including this one)?
In my PbP, one of the dwarves is a worshipper of Torag. It came up that Torag has military planners as followers and strategy in his portfolio - yet his domains don't really reflect this.
Was this an issue of just not having an appropriate domain, or did you intend the combination of domains to reflect these elements of Torag?
I'm hesitant to houserule the War domain, as that is a bit too involved in combat.
Torag isn't a warmonger.
We've basically got four "war" deities in Golarion.
Gorum: He's the god of the joy of combat and battle, the delight of war for war's sake, and violence and carnage. He's the "classic" war god.
Iomedae: She's the god of crusaders and knights and righteous combat; the "good guy" god of war.
Sarenrae: She's the god of war as a last resort; war in which you must be so bad-ass that you swoop in and finish the battle as quickly as possible so that you minimize the duration of suffering, and then once you win you go in and help your enemy recover if they deserve a chance at redemption.
AND that leaves Torag: He's the god of strategy and planning. To a priest of Torag, the battle's won or lost before the first sword is drawn; it's all about knowing HOW to fight. But that said... he's just as much a god of crafting and other dwarfly pursits; he's not ALL war, ALL the time.
Although I'm not sure I answered your question...
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As a matter of interest, why does the elven queen have 'Edasseril' in common with the ancient Thassilonian realm of the Runelord of Envy? Before I let my imagination run wild, I'd prefer to check if there is an official reason for this yet, since I'm doubtful it could just be a complete coincidence?
OK! Errors aside, I now know why these names are the same.
The land of Edasseril is the realm of Envy. It's also situated right next to both the Mierani Forest AND the Mordant Spire, the two places in ancient Thassilon that were ruled not by Thassilon but by the elves. During this time, the Edasseril family was quite powerful in the region, and was one of the main reasons why the various nations of Thassilon never expanded into this region (you'll note on the map on page 223 how there's a non-Thassilon section in the west of the nation that isn't part of any nation).
Edasseril is the nation of envy, and so Belimarius likely had some important Edasseril elves secretly assassinated and then changed the name of her nation to that name, probably in a thinly-veiled attempt to say something like "In honor of our fallen ally, I rename my land in his or her name" but in FACT she was basically just stealing the name for her own use. Because Runelord Belimarius is kind of a jerk.
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P. 90-91 (Lastwall)
Question:
The 'flag' on Page 90 seems to feature 11 'split' shields in a 3 by 4 arrangement, with a 'space' left for one such split shield.
Is this representative of 11 pieces of the Shield of Arnisant being held by the crusaders, whilst the last, 'missing' piece represents the one locked away with the remains of Tar-Baphon in the citadel of Gallowspires in neighbouring Ustalav?
Exactly.
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'woolen' should be 'woollen' (unless this is an american spelling with which I am unfamiliar).
You have run afoul of our efficient American spelling techniques once again, sir! Woolen is correct for this side of the pond.
Even just a few miles from the major cities does the land become wilderness.
Quibble: Not too sure about this sentence; is it an evocation of the language/phrasing of epic sagas?
Hm. It does have that kind of ring, doesn't it? I hope that was deliberate and not happy serendipity.
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Of course, in Golarion, we'd say: "djinn/efreet/marid/shaitan."Boomer:
Thank you for the Jalmeray answers; I should have realised anything with djinn/efreet/marid/dao associations might have you involved somewhere... :D
On page 84: "The challenge has stood for centuries, and those willing to brave a race against a djinn, wrestle a dao, and outwit an efreet are accepted into the monastic orders of wondrous Jalmeray to learn the secret arts of a distant people."