In an email I sent to Paizo, I told them that Pathfinder made me want to play D&D again after a long hiatus. To me the way Paizo has approached the production of the world of Golarion and the Pathfinder RPG, it tells me that someone really cares about giving the game back to the core fans that have stuck with the game through many ups and downs.
I agree completely.
It is comforting to know that a company cares about the game we all love and can conceive a product of quality, respecting the tradition of gaming and the audience's expectations, while still proposing some innovations.
An evolution, not a revolution.
I could compare Paizo to Peter Jackson.
It the same way, they gave us a reflection of our dreams. They understood.
I agree completely.
It is comforting to know that a company cares about the game we all love and can conceive a product of quality, respecting the tradition of gaming and the audience's expectations, while still proposing some innovations.
An evolution, not a revolution.I could compare Paizo to Peter Jackson.
It the same way, they gave us a reflection of our dreams. They understood.
As stated on a seperate post, Im glad for the smarter people here to write with the words i lack. This is just what i feel. When WotC stopped Dung and Drag, my heart stopped. When Pazio started the PATHFINDER, Shear joy! And then, their own game? YEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAH!
SO, again, thank you for the smart people to say the good words i can not!
Pathfinder means never having to say you're sorry.
Pathfinder means placing my money and my trust with an RPG company again.
I honestly believe that the open gaming platform model is going to be a big win for Pathfinder. The OGL/SRD means that they can concentrate on tweaking issues and cranking out some of the best flavor content I have ever seen. The fact that anyone can publish under the OGL means that the small 'indie' third-party publishers will be drawn more and more into Pathfinder's orbit. I don't think they will ever eclipse WotC, but I think they can play PC to their Apple. It's open source gaming, it's no restrictions to your imagination, and it's just darn fun.
I don't think they will ever eclipse WotC, but I think they can play PC to their Apple. It's open source gaming, it's no restrictions to your imagination, and it's just darn fun.
PC eclipses Apple.
|
What it means to me: By gamers, for gamers.
That's generally a policy I highly agree with. I don't like products that feel like they were just filtered through marketing before they hit the shelf, or that they failed to be inspected by a skilled writer or editor with a good conception of a well-rounded product.
I don't think they will ever eclipse WotC, but I think they can play PC to their Apple. It's open source gaming, it's no restrictions to your imagination, and it's just darn fun.PC eclipses Apple.
True ... trying to shoehorn in open source comparison (one reason PC eclipsed Apple, accesability)
I agree completely.
It is comforting to know that a company cares about the game we all love and can conceive a product of quality, respecting the tradition of gaming and the audience's expectations, while still proposing some innovations.
An evolution, not a revolution.I could compare Paizo to Peter Jackson.
It the same way, they gave us a reflection of our d
reams. They understood.
Ugh. Paizo is going to savage lord of the rings and make us all think frodo is a whiney b!tch. No thanks.
I just feel paizo is a company that I can trust to make good games for me and my players.
|
Contributor
|
The fact of the matter is that I have never been what I would consider a "fan" of anything. I like to complete my collections and love D&D, so I've collected nearly every product WotC published for D&D 3.5. Still, I've never been a fanatic about any music group, author, movie, or any other product...until I came to know Paizo.
It wasn't until the Age of Worms adventure path that I was inspired to really look at the products Paizo was putting out. When I was able to make it to GenCon SoCal in 2006, I found myself spending more time at the Paizo booth than at Wizards'.
Since the advent of the Pathfinder adventure paths, I've been steadily increasing my participation in these boards. What I've found is a sense of finally rejoining the gaming community in a way that I haven't felt since college. I really enjoy the different personalities, the kind, generous attitude of vast majority of the people here. (I know I can ask even "stupid" questions and get responsible answers...even if folks are saying, "I can't believe he's asking that!" to themselves, they don't say it on the boards. ;) And I love the jokes, here.
Paizo's hard work has re-ignited my passion, not only for gaming, but for all of the creative pursuits I've let lie dormant for years.
For the first time in my life, I can honestly say I'm a fan. Being a responsible father, I can't spend all my money on Paizo fanwear and all the other accessories, but I did become a superscriber.
So, what does Paizo mean to me? It means renewed passion for writing, newfound fan-dom, a sense of community, and anticipation of years of great gaming.
So, what does Paizo mean to me? It means renewed passion for writing, newfound fan-dom, a sense of community, and anticipation of years of great gaming.
Feels like I'd be gilding not only this lily, but all the others before ... I just hope WotC/Hasbro doesn't get so bent out of shape from Paizo "stealing" all the hearts of the players away that they try doing something about it, because I can safely guarentee that anyone who's played the game before 3.0 (raising a low-impact-dice-set-marked paw) will NOT be getting into 4.0 ... and Paizo has assured us they won't go beyond 3.5, correct? (THANK YOU, PAIZO!)
Well, not necessarily guarentee, but it is a safe bet.
I just hope WotC/Hasbro doesn't get so bent out of shape from Paizo "stealing" all the hearts of the players away that they try doing something about it, because I can safely guarentee that anyone who's played the game before 3.0 (raising a low-impact-dice-set-marked paw) will NOT be getting into 4.0 ... and Paizo has assured us they won't go beyond 3.5, correct? (THANK YOU, PAIZO!)
Not much they can do. Not like they can revoke the OGL.
So, what does Paizo mean to me? It means renewed passion for writing, newfound fan-dom, a sense of community, and anticipation of years of great gaming.Feels like I'd be gilding not only this lily, but all the others before ... I just hope WotC/Hasbro doesn't get so bent out of shape from Paizo "stealing" all the hearts of the players away that they try doing something about it, because I can safely guarentee that anyone who's played the game before 3.0 (raising a low-impact-dice-set-marked paw) will NOT be getting into 4.0 ... and Paizo has assured us they won't go beyond 3.5, correct? (THANK YOU, PAIZO!)
Well, not necessarily guarentee, but it is a safe bet.
Hi. I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, here, and I really just intended to glance at this thread and move on, but ...
This kind of sentiment is a bit irksome to me. My feelings about Pathfinder notwithstanding (to whit: I enjoy the flavor of Golarion and the setting fluff, I love the APs, and am obviously a subscriber, but I think the PFRPG is simply a collection of somewhat democratically approved houserules that are intended to patch the many deficiencies of 3.5), it doesn't follow that every longtime player of D&D is going to turn his/her nose up at 4th ed.
I personally have been playing D&D since 1985 and started with the Basic Red Box. I have been role-playing consistently at least once a week ever since (and in high school, a heck of a lot more often) and have played tons of systems and genres. AND I really, really like 4th edition. For a variety of reasons. I have no intention of defending this position; I simply felt the need to respond to the assumption that anyone who has played D&D for more than 8 years couldn't possibly find 4th edition attractive, which is, of course, silly.
I am done; please continue your praise of Paizo.
O
Pathfinder means I have less money for beer... (yes I am a beer geek too)
So, what does Paizo mean to me? It means renewed passion for writing, newfound fan-dom, a sense of community, and anticipation of years of great gaming.Feels like I'd be gilding not only this lily, but all the others before ... I just hope WotC/Hasbro doesn't get so bent out of shape from Paizo "stealing" all the hearts of the players away that they try doing something about it, because I can safely guarentee that anyone who's played the game before 3.0 (raising a low-impact-dice-set-marked paw) will NOT be getting into 4.0 ... and Paizo has assured us they won't go beyond 3.5, correct? (THANK YOU, PAIZO!)
Well, not necessarily guarentee, but it is a safe bet.
Hi. I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, here, and I really just intended to glance at this thread and move on, but ...
This kind of sentiment is a bit irksome to me. My feelings about Pathfinder notwithstanding (to whit: I enjoy the flavor of Golarion and the setting fluff, I love the APs, and am obviously a subscriber, but I think the PFRPG is simply a collection of somewhat democratically approved houserules that are intended to patch the many deficiencies of 3.5), it doesn't follow that every longtime player of D&D is going to turn his/her nose up at 4th ed.
I personally have been playing D&D since 1985 and started with the Basic Red Box. I have been role-playing consistently at least once a week ever since (and in high school, a heck of a lot more often) and have played tons of systems and genres. AND I really, really like 4th edition. For a variety of reasons. I have no intention of defending this position; I simply felt the need to respond to the assumption that anyone who has played D&D for more than 8 years couldn't possibly find 4th edition attractive, which is, of course, silly.
I am done; please continue your praise of Paizo.
O
To start with I generally liked 3.5 but there are a number of nasty holes in it. Pathfinder means I'm not going to drop using all my Forgotten Realms 3.5 compatible books. I don't know how much cash I've spent on the books but I figure like many of you on the message boards Wizards have just done a Microsoft on us.
Don't misunderstand I'm going to run a 4Ed game some of it looks good( with some skill additions and tweaking) but the proof is in the running. However my gaming group in general will still be running 3.5\ Pathfinder games in the future.
To me, Paizo generally, and Pathfinder in particular, is the new home of Dungeons and Dragons. Yes, they can't put those words on their products due to licensing and intellectual property reasons, but I've played D&D for over 20 years, and what I like about D&D has *never* been about licensing or intellectual property. And I'm a lawyer. You could put the words "Dungeons and Dragons" on a Monopoly game, but that doesn't make it Dungeons and Dragons--not to me, and not to a great many people who have enjoyed the game for many years.
What Paizo is doing with Pathfinder is D&D. Rise of the Runelords is D&D. Curse of the Crimson Throne is D&D. The Pathfinder Modules are D&D. The Pathfinder Chronicles Sourcebooks are D&D. And the new Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is D&D. It is the evolution of 3.5 that the players of this great game deserve.
The folks at Paizo have really delivered the goods with great writing, excellent artwork and evocative ideas. They've given us stories that feel familiar without rehashing the same old things we've seen before. And the production values are through the roof!
At Paizo, Dungeons and Dragons has a new home. And as a result, so do I.
Pathfinder means I have less money for beer... (yes I am a beer geek too)
Great site! Thank you for that.
|
for me, Pathfinder means thoughtfull and thought-prvoking modules made by fellow fans (with considarbly more skill and expirience, of curse). It means that I can choose not to play 4E and still remain (realtivley) mainstream. It means I have a company wich I trust to always be proffasional and keep true to thier word.
for me, Pathfinder bacame a second name to D&D.
What Paizo is doing with Pathfinder is D&D. Rise of the Runelords is D&D. Curse of the Crimson Throne is D&D. The Pathfinder Modules are D&D. The Pathfinder Chronicles Sourcebooks are D&D. And the new Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is D&D. It is the evolution of 3.5 that the players of this great game deserve.
I wonder if statements like this actually move any of the executives over at Hasbro/WotC? I mean, they have to take their lumps from the OGL, but what has really happened is that for many people, WotC gave up their claim to the namesake when they released a version of their product that many people don't agree with.
What they have failed to realize is that unlike other products, many gamers do not have unfaltering loyalty to brands. It's a huge time investment, and if I don't enjoy the game, I'm not going to play just to be loyal to the brand.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
|
Well what Paizo (and their flagship, Pathfinder) means to me is OGL as it was meant to be.
What I mean is that Pathfinder will take the best of what's out there and add it. Want an intelligent golem? Why take this template from the Advanced Beastry and apply.it! Want a cool non-monster manual monster? There's the tome of horrors! Want your badguy to be infused with an ancient spirit? Look no farther that Secrets of Pact Magic! Want a soulknife that doesn't suck? Untapped Potential is a PDF away.
Pathfinder rpg just continues this, the stated goal of WotC in the MM II given life.
|
To me, Pathfinder means damn good storytelling and an immense passion for the products they create and the setting they're sharing with their customers. It started for me with the adventure paths in Dungeon Magazine and it's carried on into the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. The good people at Paizo are the best in the business when it comes to good roleplaying.
What does Pathfinder Mean?
D&D 3.5
It's Alive!
It's Alive!
|
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
|
Pathfinder means something additional to me, a common tongue.
While my 3.5 books didn't spontaniously combust when 4.x came out, they don't self replicate either. I can teach kids, and friends' kids, 3.x D&D, but I have to rely on the whims of 1/2 priced books and the internet for them to get PHBs. Now I can teach kids Pathfinder and point them to my FLGS to get the RPG, or Amazon (Where I note it's cheaper than Halo 3).
The next event I get to run games for kids, is going to be fun.
"What's this? D&D?"
"This! Is! PATHFINDER!" *chestkick*.
Pathfinder means to me what Planescape meant to me.
It's made me look on the game with delight once more – intelligent ideas, great art and design, with quality writing.
Oh and a kick-ass community.
to me, it means something to replace my once beloved Realms, no small feat
|
Pathfinder reminds me of the wonder and excitement I felt the first time my grade school friends and I opened a newly purchased "Red box" D&D basic set (way back in 1984-85), and hashed out how to play! Every time a I open a Pathfinder Adventure Path installment, Companion, Chronicles, or Module I get that old rush. I know that what's between those covers is going to entertain me, expand my imagination, and in some cases educate me a little.
I've said it before here on these boards and in other places. Pathfinder; the setting, the game, the people who play it, and the people who bring it to us are, to me, collectively the spiritual torch bearers of Dungeons & Dragons!
Pathfinder means D&D to me.
|
|
What does Pathfinder mean to me? I'm not quite sure. I can honestly say that it has renewed my intrest in gaming. We recently started the Runelords AP and I have not been this excited about a game in the past 10 years at least. I find myself going over and over my character sheet, reading and rereading the different "Revisited" books my DM let me borrow, as well as the Gazeteer he gave me for my birthday this year. Its a strange feeling. It all feels very new, but also very familiar. I have taken the last 2 years off fom gaming, mainly for time reasons. Working 6 days a week and trying to be a husband and dad to 3 kids doesn't leave alot of time for goblin hunting. When I was ready to come back, 4th edition was waiting for me. I just could not buy the books. It just wasn't "my" DnD. Then I was introduced to Pathfinder. So, I guess Pathfinder to me means remembering what it feels like to be a hero. I would like to say that I'm not angry at Wizards. They made a buisness decision, that is all. In fact, I'm glad to have had them. Without Wizards, there would likely not be a Pathfinder. Dnd is constantly evolving. Wizads took it over from TSR when it was starting to fade, and now its Paizo's turn to take the torch. They may not have the name, but "my" Dnd was never a name. It was a community, a group of friends on Saurday night, and a collection of stories and history to be shared by gamers all over the country, and now I suppose the world. There may be other DnD's out there, and I wish them well, but Pathfinder DnD is mine.
|
|
Much of what you see in this expression is the natural resistance and fear to change, especially as we gamers get older.
I don't think this is true. There are many young gamers that like 3.x better than 4.0, it has nothing to do with age. Also, "natural resistance and fear to change" is a phrase often used to marginalize other peoples valid reasons for not changing (whether it is in gaming or politics or whatever). While I don't believe that you intended it that way and I am not trying to attack you, I have just heard that phrase too often recently regarding 4.0, and I just wanted to respectfully disagree.
Pathfinder means not only support for but improvement of the game I love, and an online community that shares in that support and development. It's like some kind of steroid/vitamin cocktail for my imagination and creativity. And of yes, there are side effects...
Great thread, Veector.
EDIT: Haha! Necromancy. Well done, Thread Necromancer.
I don't think this is true. There are many young gamers that like 3.x better than 4.0, it has nothing to do with age. Also, "natural resistance and fear to change" is a phrase often used to marginalize other peoples valid reasons for not changing (whether it is in gaming or politics or whatever). While I don't believe that you intended it that way and I am not trying to attack you, I have just heard that phrase too often recently regarding 4.0, and I just wanted to respectfully disagree.
Much of what you see in this expression is the natural resistance and fear to change, especially as we gamers get older.
Seconded.
I play and own a bunch of different systems and have no problem with "new". There are certain elements of 4E I like and certain elements that I can't stand. There are enough of those elements in 4E for it to be a deal breaker and make me not want to play and support the game.
That coupled with WOTC's handling of the 3 to 4E transition really left a bad taste in my mouth and I tend to let my wallet do my talking.
CEO
|
So, what does Paizo mean to me? It means renewed passion for writing, newfound fan-dom, a sense of community, and anticipation of years of great gaming.
I couldn't put it better myself. The products that we produce here at Paizo inspired me to get back to DMing and even back to doing RPG writing. I actually feel as excited about gaming as I did back in the early 80's when I first discovered D&D. My staff is constantly surprising and delighting me with the work that they produce. I look forward to years of playing in our world!
-Lisa
To me, Pathfinder means I won't have to read crap like:
I almost spit wine out of my nose when I read that on another forum. Oh, the irony. :)
Before Paizo, I never thought about running an actual campaign comprised of pre-written adventures. From time to time, I'd run them as a one shot, but under Paizo's tenure with Dungeon, I actually stared to drop adventures into ongoing campaigns because I wanted them to be part of the campaign.
Not only have I found a really great community here on Paizo's boards, I found a community that actually caused me to challenge a few of my assumptions about gaming and refine what exactly I liked and didn't like about my hobby.
I am continually impressed by the ongoing stories of the adventure paths, and I love the campaign setting. I am eagerly awaiting the release of the RPG, both because I want to get to using it, and because, honestly, I'd much rather talk about the setting and the adventures than rules, especially after the last year.
In short, Paizo does great work, and I'm very glad to have jumped on board the juggernaut as it got rolling (although I should have gotten on board just a few months sooner).
You have a point . . . my second TPK ever occurred running Skinsaw Murders . . . hm . . .
|
Well what does Paizo mean to me? It means quality products. It means choice. If I don’t like what Wizards of the coast is doing, which I don’t, I still have someplace to get good quality materiel. I love reading the pathfinder adventure paths. Will I ever use all of the materiel? Probably not, but they are an enjoyable read, and they inspire me. They give me ideas for characters I can make, and ideas for my home brewed games which I DM. Oh and one other thing, you can hold an issue of Pathfinder. It is still in print. I can take an issue of pathfinder to the Diner etc. Its corporeal existence hasn’t been disintegrated. It hasn’t been forcibly shunted to the ethereal plane (online), a mere shadow of its former corporeal existence.
I think now there is certainly enough room for 4.0 and for Pathfinder. This game is after all about getting together with your friends and having a good time. I am very happy 3.5 isn’t just surviving but thriving, as the launch poster said.
To me, Pathfinder is the combination of the old school "wonder at the unknown" feel of AD&D, the sheer variety of options and directions of 2nd ed., and the solid and uniform rules system of 3rd ed.
This is in addition to agreeing with pretty much everyone who's already posted in this thread.
CR
It means enough to me that I just went out and bought a Pathfinder for my new car.
Sean Mahoney
Pathfinder to me means... the perfect chance to start my first campaign with the 3.x/d20 rules.
I'm 37 and I've been playing mostly AD&D2E (together with other non-D&D games) in my life. We gave 3E a try when it first came out but we didn't like it too much, so we never started a campaign.
But after seeing what 4E is, suddenly 3E looks like a very appealing option. :)
On a more serious note: this is the chance for me to go back to playing the "latest version" of D&D with a set of rules (3.x) which should be well-tested and balanced after almost 10 years of evolution, and at the same time ready for a fresh new start.
--
Nekomante