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The newest Hulk is up.
This looks to be shaping up to be an awesome move!
That and with rumors that Tony Stark/Iron Man may make a cameo what can go wrong.
Well a lot of people are going to remember the Hulk movie directed by Ang Lee that came out a few years ago with Eric Bana and Jennerfer Connaly.
It wasnt a very good movie and I think the misinformed will think its more of the same. That could hurt it.
But yeah other than that this movie looks fantastic. I hope its as good as Iron Man was. And yes Tony Stark does have a cameo from what I hear.
I didn't think that the Ang Lee Hulk was as bad as I'm hearing.... but Ed Norton.
Ed Norton?
That's news that couldn't possibly get any better.
... but that nonsense with his dad was terrible.
Agreed.
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For all the moaning I've seen online about Ang Lee's Hulk I haven't seen anything in this new Hulk's trailers yet to make me think it will be better than that one. Sure the father story was droll, but I have a dread feeling all I'm going to be waiting for is Stark's cameo.
Side story: I was reading Avengers #1 on Marvel.com and the Hulk in the heyday of comics appeared to 'fly' when he jumped (according to Loki). So I don't understand how people didn't like his jumping in the Ang Lee movie when that is old school Hulk.
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I think Ed Norton is one of the best actors working today. Period.
I was really excited to see that he was doing this - a bit confused and surprised at first, but happy nonetheless.
The Ang Lee version was like having someone hold you down while they s+@+ hot indian food into your eyes. It was amazingly awful.
The Nick Nolte overacting, the stuff with his dad, the tank/helicopters, the lame hulk-dogs, all of it.
I was surprised that they would do another Hulk movie so close to the stink of the original, but hopefully Iron Man signifies a new level of quality for Marvel based movies. I'm looking forward to this one.
Side story: I was reading Avengers #1 on Marvel.com and the Hulk in the heyday of comics appeared to 'fly' when he jumped (according to Loki). So I don't understand how people didn't like his jumping in the Ang Lee movie when that is old school Hulk.
The super jumps were cool as hell! This movie had its flaws but that definitly wasnt one of them. I didnt know anyone had a problem with that.
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The super jumps were cool as hell! This movie had its flaws but that definitly wasnt one of them. I didnt know anyone had a problem with that.Yeah, same here.
They were also SUPER FUN in the video game. :)
I enjoyed the old movie; am looking forward to this on june 13 also; hope I see some more stuff leading to the creation of the Avengers; Hulk was a key part of that.
What bugged me about the first one was that they touched on a major Hulk point from the comics, and yet somehow still missed the point of it. Instead of playing up that Hulk was a manifestation of Banner's helplessness as a child witnessing the death of his mother, we got that his father was genetically altering him from the start . . . ugh.
I loved the idea that Peter David played up during his run that the gamma radiation from the gamma bombs tended to trigger mutations based on the victim's own psyche. That went right out the window with Hulk and the fake Absorbing man.
I also think that Hulk constantly getting bigger as he gets madder was really, really annoying. The fact that they state that Hulk is about 10 feet tall in the trailers makes me feel much better, since stronger doesn't mean, "constantly growing."
I think the thing that really bugged me about the first one though (other than the damn Gamma Dogs) was that the reviewers were so thrilled to say how deep this movie was, and attributed the whole depth to Ang Lee, assuming of course the the source material must have been childish but was given relevancy by Lee, when in reality, the source material, especially Peter David's run on the book (when you cut out the whole silly Pantheon era) was about 10 times deeper than the movie ever got.
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While that is pretty cool, it is also a bit disappointing. I would have prefered to see that type of situation with Captain America than this guy. Basically this means if they do something similiar with Cap it is going to stand out as a repeat.
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Battle scence from the Incredible HulkWhile that is pretty cool, it is also a bit disappointing. I would have prefered to see that type of situation with Captain America than this guy. Basically this means if they do something similiar with Cap it is going to stand out as a repeat.
Depends, if they use something like The Sleeper vs Cap, they can play up his agility vs size. Kind of hint how he'd fight the big green machine.
I'll admit, Cap and Thor are the two movies that worry me the most. I think they're the hardest to get 'right'.
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I'll admit, Cap and Thor are the two movies that worry me the most. I think they're the hardest to get 'right'.
With Cap, I would love to see them shoot the first part of the movie (A D-Day-like battle which results in Cap being frozen), shot in a similar style as Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan with the jostled camera shots and muted colors.
Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios announced in an interview at an event promoting the new Hulk movie that The Cap film is a period piece set entirely in WWII, and for that matter the Thor film is set mostly in Asgard.
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Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios announced in an interview at an event promoting the new Hulk movie that The Cap film is a period piece set entirely in WWII, and for that matter the Thor film is set mostly in Asgard.
That will be good for Cap, especially if it ends with their attempt to stop the buzzbomb and Cap falling into the water...
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While that is pretty cool, it is also a bit disappointing. I would have prefered to see that type of situation with Captain America than this guy. Basically this means if they do something similiar with Cap it is going to stand out as a repeat.
In context this is actually foreshadowing the Cap stuff I think (as well as giving their FX people a litle practice).
But having seen the film "Congratulations its a Hulk movie," not great, but not particularly terrible and the end fight has a certain satisfaction to it.
Ang Lee is a very fine director, but he's definitely not an action director. And his Hulk movie proved it. Then again, if the new one is 2+ hours of solid CGI (which I suspect it will be) then I'll skip it. Burned out on CGI-fests. Can't... take... much... more! A little bit goes a long way.
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Ang Lee is a very fine director, but he's definitely not an action director. And his Hulk movie proved it. Then again, if the new one is 2+ hours of solid CGI (which I suspect it will be) then I'll skip it. Burned out on CGI-fests. Can't... take... much... more! A little bit goes a long way.
Agreed, too much CGI is horrible. I'd take a good, well-crafted action scene with normal SFX and no CGI over a CGI-filled battle royale any day.
Obviously, being the Hulk, they're going to use CGI to animate him properly... which is fine for this movie. I just hope there's not *too* much of it.
The casting of Edward Norton as Banner leads me to believe that there's going to be a good amount of time where he won't be Hulk-ified, so it should be a good movie.
If they can get a balance like Iron Man, which had just the right amount of cool CGI action scenes balanced with some impressive acting all around, I'll be very pleased.
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That would add a tremendous amount of legitimacy to the project, IMHO. I thought the best thing about the "Maverick" movie was the inclusion of James Garner. Movie remakes/movies based on old shows (90% of them, seemingly!) somehow don't annoy me if they throw bones to their origins like that. Like putting Buster Crabbe in the pilot episode of the 80's Buck Rogers.
The trailer plays a few notes of the melody of the old tv series...
The trailer plays a few notes of the melody of the old tv series...
When I was a kid, that was my favorite song for some reason. It still gets stuck in my head from time to time.
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That would add a tremendous amount of legitimacy to the project, IMHO. I thought the best thing about the "Maverick" movie was the inclusion of James Garner. Movie remakes/movies based on old shows (90% of them, seemingly!) somehow don't annoy me if they throw bones to their origins like that. Like putting Buster Crabbe in the pilot episode of the 80's Buck Rogers.
Agreed, I enjoy these sorts of cameos. Agreed on Maverick, one of the best scenes in that movie was right at the end with Garner and Gibson in the bathtubs... Very classic. Also, the end of the first Spider-Man movie had the classic Spider-Man TV show theme during the credits, which was nice.
I enjoy this sort of fan service even more when they don't just bank on old clichés, but instead do something different and interesting with them. For a bad example of cliché usage (from the Ang Lee Hulk movie) and good example (Casino Royale):
But in Casino Royale, they do a clever reversal of a classic Bond cliché giving a nice spin on it, when the bartender asks whether Bond would like his martini shaken or stirred, and he responds by saying "Do I look like a man who cares?".
The trailer plays a few notes of the melody of the old tv series...
I wonder if the movie will end with sad music as Edward Norton hitchhikes down a highway...
I enjoy this sort of fan service even more when they don't just bank on old clichés, but instead do something different and interesting with them. For a bad example of cliché usage (from the Ang Lee Hulk movie) and good example (Casino Royale):
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Awesome examples! You and I have similar taste, it seems.
Indeed! Let me know what you think of The Incredible Hulk if you go see it this weekend... I won't be able to make it out until early next week.
I'll probably wait 'til it's out on Netflix. It takes a lot to entice me into a cel-phone jabbering, wandering teenager-infested theatre these days.
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Indeed! Let me know what you think of The Incredible Hulk if you go see it this weekend... I won't be able to make it out until early next week.I'll probably wait 'til it's out on Netflix. It takes a lot to entice me into a cel-phone jabbering, wandering teenager-infested theatre these days.
Very good point. For the summer blockbusters, I don't mind so much because they're very... loud, so it's not nearly as annoying.
But the worst film experience I had in theatres was definitely Juno. That was not the kind of movie to see in theatres, what with the teenagers not getting the point and chatting and laughing the whole way through, talking during quiet parts because "Aw, man! Nothing is going on!" and so on. A crew of 14 year-old girls actually walked out of the movie.
Suffice it to say, I understand your point.
I saw it, and enjoyed it. It had a few flaws, but I think it is up to the new standard Marvel has set for itself. It was cool to see Lou Ferrigno in it. The Brazilian scenes were excellent. It was faithful to the comics, and did not pander to the audience.
It actually is growing on me, the more I think about it now.
I saw it, and enjoyed it. It had a few flaws, but I think it is up to the new standard Marvel has set for itself. It was cool to see Lou Ferrigno in it.
Did you happen to notice that Ferrigno voiced the Hulk?
Yes. Iknew already, going in.
I didn't mind the first one, in fact I would have really liked it if they had ended it after the tank/helicopter fight but that nonsense with his dad was terrible.
I'm the same. If taken by itself, Ang Lee's Hulk was an OK movie; not great, but watchable. But, within the context of the Hulk mythology, it was just bad.
Problem was with how Lee approached the movie. In an interview Nick Nolte gave while promoting the film, he said that when he spoke to Lee, Lee told him "I don't know how to make a comic book, but I do know how to make a greek tragedy." And that's what killed it: a convoluted plot that doubles back on itself too many times, becoming something that comic book Hulk fans didn't want to see.
By the way, I just got back from the theater, and the new Hulk is great. Not sure if it's as good as Iron Man, but it's so close as to almost be unnoticible. And Tony Stark does have a cameo in the end. They even drop some hints about Captain America!!!!
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I just got back from watching this and I thought it was pretty damn good. I wouldn't rate it as highly as Iron Man or the first two Spider Man movies but still pretty damn good. (It was certainly a lot more fun than the Ang Lee Hulk from 2003.) There were plenty of nods to the TV series and the big fight scene at the end between the Hulk and the Abomination was great. That kind of fight scene is exactly what the Ang Lee Hulk movie was lacking.
I saw it and I liked it a lot.
The CG was pretty bad but it stil really rocked.
The little nods with a twist that Nameless mentioned are in this movie. They put a humorus twist on the "you wouldnt like me when Im angry" phrase and there is a funny joke about the classic purple shorts Hulk wore in the comics.
Theres no need to sit through the credits by the way...The end credits scene was moved to play right before the credits.
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Went and saw it at the late show last night after the wife and kids went to bed, and had a damn fine time! I didn't see all of the Lee version, just enough to know I wasn't liking it. I love Eric Bana, and I love Jennifer Connolly (with a supernova intensity passion), but they just couldn't get the Lee version to work.
Full disclosure, I'm not much a Hulk fan. I had nightmares where he chased me as a kid, and I think that has colored my appreciation for the character. I collected some Hulk comics here and there (primarily Peter David's run), and I know a lot of his history, but I'm not the most likely Hulk cheerleader. I also generally try to stay away from most of the indsider knowledge about comic book movies until after I've seen it. I want to go in and see the experience from front to back fresh. My pal Syd who runs the FLCBS knows about the level of info I like ("Stay till the end of the credits when you see Iron Man, Gav").
This Hulk got all the tonal things right that the Lee version got wrong. The whole Rio section was great, the fighting was wonderful, and I thought the CGI on Jade Jaws himself was really good, capturing a lot of emotion and levels to his rage and anger. I wasn't a big fan of the design for the Abomination (I didn't figure they could really get the egg-shell head look to work, but I hoped. Norton was awesome as Bruce, and I liked Tim Roth (another actor I love) as Emil Blonski, but the standout in casting was Tim Blake Nelson as Sam Sterns. Excellently done!
I think they made the (ultimately good) choice of showing more and explaining less. That's one of the biggest reasons the Lee version sucked so much. They worked it in on the run with this Hulk, and it felt a bit like some of the motivations and character moments might have been left on the editing room floor. But they still managed a very good flick that kept me excited for the whole show.
With the first two Spiderman movies, X-men 1&2, Iron Man and now the Hulk, I feel theat the movie side of the Migty Marvel Manorhouse is in good order, indeed! Ye, gods, I can't wait for Captain America!!
I just got back from seeing it as well. Definitely better than the Ang Lee travesty, but not as good as Iron Man. As a fan of the old Bill Bixby TV show, I loved all the little nods they threw in.
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I agree with you and even throwing a nob Bills way was really cool. My wife got all emotional.
I saw it yesterday and really liked it. It wasn't quite as witty as Iron Man, but it was still really good- way better than the first hulk. That being said the first hulk had some moments that were really cool. For instance, the part were he escapes the lab and is fighting the army is IMO the best section of the movie, and is as good as anything in this version. However the rest of that movie pretty much sucked, especially Nick Nolte and his mutant dogs. I really didn't know what they were thinking with some of the stuff they did on that one.
ie...
Director: "So we're working on the first big budget hulk movie; the expectations are going to be high after the success of spiderman and x-men, so we have to make sure we do it right."
Writer guys: "Agreed. It has to rock. It has to capture the essence of the comics."
Direction: "Exactly, so does anyone have any ideas for the first big battle? Now keep in mind that this will be the first time that audiences will have seen the hulk fully in action since they painted Lou green. It has to be really cool. First impressions are everything."
Writers guys: "Well we we're tossing some ideas around, and we're thinking- what would be a better first fight scene than Hulk versus a mutant poodle? Heck we could even add in a couple of other mutant dogs just for variety. And if we could work Nick Nolte in there as well, then I think the movie would be really awesome."
Director: "Sweeet! A mutant poodle. That is so Hulk, and Nick Nolte too- that's such a good idea he's sooo awesome. He's such an amazing thespian. Hey maybe you guys could write him some really long ass monologues that he could slur out. I think if we threw a few of those in between the action sequences it would really tie the movie together."
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A way to sum up my reaction to The Incredible Hulk:
For most of the movie, I was thinking "this is decent".
When he fights Abomination, I was grinning ear-to-ear and laughing like a giddy little kid.
Honestly, I haven't felt like that in a theatre since Jurassic Park.
Not saying the movie is great, but it is fun to watch.
Should I see the Hulk? Or even Iron Man, for that matter?
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OK, pretend that I really liked X-Men 2 a lot, but not 1. Thought XM1 was lame. XM3 was OK.
Pretend I absolutely hated every second of Spider-Man 2, and wanted to puke the whole time, and didn't even try to watch 1 or 3.
Pretend I disliked Fantastic 4, and haven't seen the sequel. Should I see the Hulk? Or even Iron Man, for that matter?
I had similar thoughts on those movies (with the exception of Spider-Man, I enjoyed 1 and 2), and I believe you would enjoy Iron Man. Just the fantastic acting alone is worth seeing. The plot is pretty interesting, even if there are a couple of clicés here and there. And it's funny. A good funny, too. I can't speak about how true it is to the comics because I've never read any, but I honestly would recommend this movie to anyone who can suspend their disbelief enough to watch a comic-book movie.
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OK, pretend that I really liked X-Men 2 a lot, but not 1. Thought XM1 was lame. XM3 was OK.
Agreed. XM3 needed more time to film and post-produce. It did the best it could on a rushed and conflicted schedule.
Pretend I absolutely hated every second of Spider-Man 2, and wanted to puke the whole time, and didn't even try to watch 1 or 3.
Well, I thought SM2 was the most watchable of the three (which isn't saying much), so maybe it is for the best you did not watch the others.
Pretend I disliked Fantastic 4, and haven't seen the sequel.
I thought FF was okay. Poorly written/acted/directed/CGId, but at least it wasn't an overwrought, bloated, "tear-jerker" like Spiderman.
Should I see the Hulk? Or even Iron Man, for that matter?
Go see Ironman. Robert Downey Jr. alone is worth the price of admission.
But Hulk might be a toss-up, in all honesty, once you see Ironman, you might get a better idea what to expect (same concept/execution, slightly weaker script and editing in the Hulk).
Nameless & Jal,
Thanks for the advice, guys! I'll probably add Iron Man to my Netflix queue as soon as it's out, then make a decision from there. (P.S., if either of you guys ever look at the Netflix user reviews, I'm "K-Bob" over there).
"Don't make me Ang-Lee... You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang-Lee..."
LOL!!
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I have never been the greatest Hulk fan. But I enjoyed this movie. Not as good as Iron Man better than Spidey 3 and better than the FF movies. Pisses on X3 (which should be deleted from existence).
I'm really looking forward to The Avengers movie now! ;) (Something tells me it will be The Ultimates however.)
Still think X2 is the best Marvel movie so far.