Please people read what they wrote . . . AT THE END OF THE MONTH they will format everything and compile it into a PDF. I am sure that it will be watermarked and pretty. The stuff we are seeing currently are articles that may or may not make the cut into the finalized and gathered PDF format.
I doubt that the quality of the monthly compiled pdf will be any good. I base this judgement on the quality of the two exsisting article pdf's of the Fortress of Yaun-ti article and the Ecology of a Death Knight article. They are in extremely sad shape.
Please people read what they wrote . . . AT THE END OF THE MONTH they will format everything and compile it into a PDF. I am sure that it will be watermarked and pretty. The stuff we are seeing currently are articles that may or may not make the cut into the finalized and gathered PDF format.I doubt that the quality of the monthly compiled pdf will be any good. I base this judgement on the quality of the two exsisting article pdf's of the Fortress of Yaun-ti article and the Ecology of a Death Knight article. They are in extremely sad shape.
They will evolve. Customers will not purchase them as they are. In the end they will be quite handsome for online articles.
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I have no problem with the rest of the concerns raised here, but to be true I am a bit tired of seeing this one.
Please people read what they wrote . . . AT THE END OF THE MONTH they will format everything and compile it into a PDF. I am sure that it will be watermarked and pretty. The stuff we are seeing currently are articles that may or may not make the cut into the finalized and gathered PDF format.
So while you may be underwhelmed with, say, the quality of the articles thus far, please understand that it is highl LIKELY the finalized version, the ACTUAL ISSUE will be much prettier.
when you ASSUME things you make an ASS out of U and ME. (i always wanted to say that online) I can only judge off of what they have posted, and so far that has been decidedly underwhelming. We have no guarantee that anything will improve at some nebulous "later date".
Frankly, formatting is elementary and should have been completed before posting anything to the site. A simple template could have been created and used as the background for each file. So, I'm sorry Last Rouge, but your argument falls flat.
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They will evolve. Customers will not purchase them as they are. In the end they will be quite handsome for online articles.
Can you tell me who will win the superbowl? Your precognitive powers are apparently impressive and I could really use the money a bet on the game would bring.
You have no more evidence that the release will be good than others do that it will not. In fact, you have far less evidence, as what they have posted so far sucks, and thus supports the pessimists.
(bold emphasis in the quote above is mine. It was intended to hilight the text my post referred to)
. So, I'm sorry Last Rouge, but your argument falls flat.
Bolded emphasis is mine.
Anywho I am an eternal optimist, and thanks for calling me an ass. I love intelligent discourse.
So let me go into my stock apology:
I never insulted YOU. I said I was tired of that particular gripe. We are such a needy culture, are we not? Things must be perfect immediately. Do you truly think that these disjointed PDFs are going to be what WoTC actually tries to sell? Do you?
So excuse me for my optimism, apparently it rubs you the wrong way. Call me true neutral, when a thread is overbearingly negative I am the eternal ray of sunshine and hope.
Also Underling, I do love how you highlighted my words in one post and ignored my own highlighted word in the preceding text that my assumptions were LIKELY.
Likely = probable.
As I sit here and ponder this heated issue the following occurs to me.
Why not make an online mag, then sell it AGAIN in a paper format by collecting together all of the well-received contributions. Meaning WotC, every year or six months, takes everything that wasn't crap, and issues it in a thick softbound BEST OF.
Hmmm. I Wonder if they'll do that? The guys who pay for DI can pay twice, and they can still get money from dudes like me, who won't pay.
I'm quite certain they will do this.
Also, those letting the rabidity of WotC's boards bleed over here, please don't. We all love our game and there is no need to eat each other over it. I personally believe nearly everyone who posts here at Paizo is intelligent and courteous (nearly everyone = everyone but Pett of course), let's keep our heads and discuss things sans sarcasm and bite (neither of which ever read right or go over well on the interwebs anyways). Totally not singling anyone out by the way, this is preemptive preventative post only.
Disagree by all means, but let's keep it civil, if for no other reason because I love you guys. And girls too. Like Erik, I'm all about the ladies. :-)
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. So, I'm sorry Last Rouge, but your argument falls flat.Bolded emphasis is mine.
Anywho I am an eternal optimist, and thanks for calling me an ass. I love intelligent discourse.
So let me go into my stock apology:
I never insulted YOU. I said I was tired of that particular gripe. We are such a needy culture, are we not? Things must be perfect immediately. Do you truly think that these disjointed PDFs are going to be what WoTC actually tries to sell? Do you?
So excuse me for my optimism, apparently it rubs you the wrong way. Call me true neutral, when a thread is overbearingly negative I am the eternal ray of sunshine and hope.
You did read that I called myself an ass too, right?
Things do not need to be perfect immediately. Wizards has had 2 YEARS since they began to plan 4ed, and 6 months since they announced the end of the print magazines. That, plus a the paizo slush pile of ready to go (or almost ready) material, meant to me that they should have had plenty of time to format and prepare the new releases.
You know, on a personal front, I would like to suggest that you should become more pessimistic like me.:) An optimist can only be disappointed in life. As a pessimist, the world can live down to my expectations or even sometimes pleasantly surprise me.
come over to the dark side. Bag on Wotc. You know you want to.
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Holtdang!!! I done me a linky, and I summoned a Lil Goule AND a Ghoul King. I'm the baddest bastich of threadnecromancers in the intire internet, and I don't care who knows it! I should be in lockdown, I'm so bad. They go send me to that Prison Island in Eberron, cos I'm so dangersome. Oh, noes!!! I'll be in solitary, and I'm so egotesticle I can't stand to be in the same room with myself.
Oh, well,....spose I'll work on my English.
Muwahahahaha!!!!
p.s. youse guyz iz teh roxx0rs!!!
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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Damnit. I meant to go to bed, but I read the latest batch of posts and had to chime in again.
Edit: and for Heathy - they mostly come out at night...
Mostly.
Edit2: and here's what I wrote for those who (justifiably) do not want to peruse the WotC Boards.
At the end of the day, we're all on the same side. I love D&D. Kim loves D&D. Every crusty grognard screaming about the change, every optimistic party-man smashing them down, we all love D&D. We all want what's best for it, it's just that we don't necessarily agree. And we won't necessarily agree no matter how much is said.But, WotC is failing us. Kim Mohan is failing us. Mike Mearls is failing us. Not because they are making changes, but because they are choosing to alienate rather than include. No explanation is being given for the changes, nothing is coming out except a constant stream of promises ("the electronic version of Dragon will be better") and previews where the fluff and flavor of the game is being drastically reworked, and no one, not a single person, is reaching out to the gamers that see the changes and are not convinced of their value. No one is telling us why. Why do we need to ditch the Great Wheel? Why were Dragon and Dungeon cancelled and relaunched as online only? Why are you making these changes? Why?
I know you at WotC have discussed these things. I know that you didn't get a memo from Hasbro that said "make succubi devils and cut the bard from the phb. Put up ******** playtesting articles talking about Eberron rather than the nuts and bolts of the new system. Kill the magazines." I know that you are gamers too, that you want what's best for D&D, and that you made these decisions only after careful thought and much discussion.
On the other side of the WotC wall is a gamer reading my post (I hope). And he may be the new editor of Dragon, or he may be the brain behind the 4e rules, or he may be the guy that decided the Great Wheel was too wonky, and I know that guy can answer my question. I know there's a reason, and if only I could hear it, if only a lot of other gamers could hear it, maybe we could start to get comfortable with all these changes.
I'm on the side of D&D. I think WotC have been terrific caretakers for the game. I want to continue supporting them. But I am standing out here begging you, pleading with you, please, just tell me why! Why did the magazines have to die? Why is this new format better?
Why should I trust you to continue caring for this hobby that I have loved for so long and hope to continue enjoying into the future?
Holtdang!!! I done me a linky, and I summoned a Lil Goule AND a Ghoul King. I'm the baddest bastich of threadnecromancers in the intire internet, and I don't care who knows it! I should be in lockdown, I'm so bad. They go send me to that Prison Island in Eberron, cos I'm so dangersome. Oh, noes!!! I'll be in solitary, and I'm so egotesticle I can't stand to be in the same room with myself.
Oh, well,....spose I'll work on my English.
Muwahahahaha!!!!p.s. youse guyz iz teh roxx0rs!!!
You da man, da wolf man no less!!!
to Dreadhold you go!
Ah Sebastian, you inscrutable man you. On one hand I disagree with you about giving 4th edition a chance and whether changes to the planes or monster histories are important, then the next I agree with you over the process by which WOTC conveys their plans to us.
Sebastian, you are like Zodac from the original Masters of the Universe line . . .
Why not make an online mag, then sell it AGAIN in a paper format by collecting together all of the well-received contributions. Meaning WotC, every year or six months, takes everything that wasn't crap, and issues it in a thick softbound BEST OF.Hmmm. I Wonder if they'll do that? The guys who pay for DI can pay twice, and they can still get money from dudes like me, who won't pay.
I'm quite certain they will do this.
Does that mean they told you they are going to do this? If this is the plan why don't they tell us, to reassure the tree killers that we can get something to hold in our hands and read while we take a crap? (that's a rhetorical question)
Oh yah, cuz they don't really have a plan, just a bunch of ideas....
Oh yah, cuz they don't really have a plan, just a bunch of ideas....
Oh, they have a plan. As Sebastian said, it wasn't like someone high up in Hasbro had a hate on for the Great Wheel and sent down a corporate memo demanding it be axed. They've discussed these changes, and they (WotC's braintrust) think its the right move.
However, do they think we, the consumer, deserve to know why changes are being made to something that doesn't appear to be broken? (I'm referring to the magazines here, 3.5 had some issue. But so will 4th. Nothing is perfect)
Anyways, unless they start giving us some answers to these burning questions that have been bouncing around the internet for the last 6 months, instead of condescending and insulting editorials, (I'm sure glad they told us what we want, without telling us why we want it, or why its better than what we had before), I'm not going to purchase a WotC product.
I'll read through the 4th ed SRD, and if they've done a better PR job and I've changed my mind by then, I'll buy the core books. Otherwise I'll just print and bind the SRD at Kinkos or Office Depot ;-)
*But I won't be buying the DI subscription as it stands now. The formatting is crap, as has been mentioned. And while it might very well improve, if this is what they try to dump on us 6 months after the announcement... well, that shows as much foresight and planning as having the website be down the week they announce the DI at GenCon ;-)
I have to say I agree with Sebastian (in spirit, if not in tone). There's nothing like actually holding the magazine in your hands. It's a shame Kim won't respond, I think that would earn him some respect. Maybe this thread is beneath him?
I won't be subscribing to DI. Having said this, I'm looking forward to 4e system wise (I like the SWSE system). However, I don't like the fluff changes and I don't see why they need to be changed. From a PR standpoint, WotC is handling this very poorly (4e and the mags).
To all who haven't checked out Kobold Quarterly, it's really great! It reminds me of the early Dragon magazine. I had to get the print subscription of course.
It's a shame Kim won't respond, I think that would earn him some respect. Maybe this thread is beneath him?
To be fair, Sebastian did post it on a Saturday morning. I'd wait to see if there is an official reply by sometime Monday before I give up totally on WotC's PR and customer relations.
Of course, given the heavy handed nature of the WotC boards*, I'm also surprised it hasn't been taken down by now.
*Of course, its their boards, and they did have a user agreement which everyone agreed too, so they can do whatever they want to censor the boards. It just doesn't win them many fans.
But, WotC is failing us. Kim Mohan is failing us. Mike Mearls is failing us. Not because they are making changes, but because they are choosing to alienate rather than include....
On wanting to be included:
Adding to my previous idea, that WotC should provide a print BEST OF after publishing an online run, I have this:
They should be providing play test scenarios with encounters (or just melees) so people can try out some of the rules they are considering and have a bug and feedback forum that they actually read for ideas and thoughts on the new rules. This would TOTALLY quash the backlash they are getting AND make us feel included in the creation of the new rules AND would bring a whole bunch of great ideas in.
I was involved in the early betas of a computer game that became perversely popular (Counter Strike), and as is told by the designers of said game, the feedback they got was a significant part of their creation. There is no reason WotC couldn't do the same, and it is certainly in the spirit of the computer age.
Gamers today, as we can plainly see, just don't warm to designers who sit, looking inwards, in an ivory tower planning what WE want.
It's a shame Kim won't respond, I think that would earn him some respect. Maybe this thread is beneath him?
To be fair, Sebastian did post it on a Saturday morning. I'd wait to see if there is an official reply by sometime Monday before I give up totally on WotC's PR and customer relations.
Yeah, I was being a little facetious. I think the Paizo staff is spoiling everyone by their quick responses and involvement.
It's a shame Kim won't respond, I think that would earn him some respect. Maybe this thread is beneath him?
To be fair, Sebastian did post it on a Saturday morning. I'd wait to see if there is an official reply by sometime Monday before I give up totally on WotC's PR and customer relations.
Yeah, I was being a little facetious. I think the Paizo staff is spoiling everyone by their quick responses and involvement.
True enough. Even if WotC was in the middle of the spectrum for customer relations, Paizo would still blow them away in that regard. And I've seen worse customer relations that WotC... or course, those companies weren't telling me that they need to re-invigorate their customer base or face ruin, they were successful at the time they didn't give a #&%^ about customer opinion.
Good god. I even posted it on the WotC forums. I feel dirty.
Me too. I've spent an hour reading threads over there after following the link to your post.
I haven't posted on there since the original PR debacle with the magazine cancellations. And that was the first time in a couple years. Before then I was a fairly regular poster on the Eberron part of the boards.
I kinda forgot how bad it was over there, its nice and civilized here in Paizo-land, even if we argue over things like 4th Ed and whether the Minkai names are Japanese enough.
*And wasn't the Doomsday Thread in the same section of the WotC boards more than slightly insulting? Lets just lump anyone who dissents or has an opinion other than the party line about 4th Ed into a category that marginalizes them as crackpots?
While in general I agree (and found the original WoTC posting to be more than a bit condescending, though I’m almost certain that was not its intent), and it is nice to see someone more passionate about the changeover than I am put their thoughts down in writing, I’m worried about two things. The tone seems a bit antagonistic, and I’m afraid it might turn them off from replying, and also, I don’t want to risk driving a wedge between Paizo and WoTC employees by naming names.
...I don’t want to risk driving a wedge between Paizo and WoTC employees by naming names.
Ah good. Someone else had that "Aw s@@!..." response to the name "dropping."
Unfortunately, it is far too late to fix that. :-(
After waiting for like five minutes for that link to WotC boards to open (ah, moments of irony like these, you have to savour them), I want to wash my eyes with lye or something.
Good posts from Sebastian, less stellar responses...and seriously, I consider "company is saving money!" an advantage for me when the company comes to my place and hands me all the money they are saving.
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While I agree with Sebastions statments I think the tone and attack on Kim Mohan was unwarranted. I think hes already realized this mistake, and I can appreciate his feelings on this touchy subject.Paizo brought the mags into a golden age and Im sure former editors like Wolgang Baur would agree with this. While it pains me that WotC has decided to take their IPs back into the fold,It proabably wouldnt bother me so much if:
A)They had left the mags in print format and,
B)the lack of a better communication to the fans and we the consumers.
I can even forgive them for 4e and all the wierd full changes that there making.But for now at least, I cant forgive the feelings of disrespect that having been coming from the WotC camp to the d&d community. Hopefully at some point they will make it a priority to treat us like the excellent staff of Paizo does.
I also think that Kim Mohans piece was not telling us anything, just so much smoke again. And the other piece I found on WotC, where three game designer mused on their personal history of playing D&D: Stuff like this is ok in a print magazine, where I can I choose to read or ignore it. But online, where the publisher chooses what I can read? No Way! If all I get is spoon-fed by the publisher, then don´t waste my time with musings and smokescreens - gimme some real content. If you print a mag and have a page or two to spare, fine, just fill it with whatever you have lying around.
For what I´ve seen up until now for Digital Dragon and other online content, I´m truly underwhelmed - no answers, no good or even outstanding stuff. The fortress of the Yuan-Ti did not appeal to me - it seems more of an web expansion of an existing print product than an separate piece. Am I in error or were these web expansions labeled as such in the past? What the hell are they coined as being Dragon content now? That is simply no dragon content IMO.
Stefan
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The fortress of the Yuan-Ti did not appeal to me - it seems more of an web expansion of an existing print product than an separate piece. Am I in error or were these web expansions labeled as such in the past? What the hell are they coined as being Dragon content now? That is simply no dragon content IMO.
Stefan
The fortress of the Yuan-Ti is listed as a web expansion.
The reason that it is now listed as Dragon content is simple - although web enhancements were formerly free, you will only get them as a DI subscriber in the future.
Its actually a logical move according to Wotc's thought process. previews will be free as well as an occasional teaser, but many things we used to get free + dragon content from the mag will now be locked for subscribers only. It adds more value to the DI product.
It adds more value to the DI product.
It adds false value to the DI product.
Just making something "exclusive," or "subscription only," doesn't give that thing value.
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It adds more value to the DI product.It adds false value to the DI product.
Just making something "exclusive," or "subscription only," doesn't give that thing value.
Also taking stuff that was free and deciding to repackage it as "Dragon Magazine" and making people pay for it doesn't add value to the DI. It simply lets people know that they are paying too much for DI.
I expect the content to be amazing and way beyond what they offered for free in the past. It isn't as of now. I will not subscribe on a promise of "we'll do better, really!" just like I won't hand money to someone who has let me down before on their word.WotC has failed thus far. I will not trust them. If my socks aren't knocked off with a product they will not get anymore of my patronage.
Its actually a logical move according to Wotc's thought process. previews will be free as well as an occasional teaser, but many things we used to get free + dragon content from the mag will now be locked for subscribers only. It adds more value to the DI product.
So, repackaging stuff formerly added freely to an existing product into Digital Dragon content and (in the no-so-far future) charging for it is adding more value? Sorry, but I can´t support that PoV. Compare the much-quoted Ecolgy of... articles. They are based on creatures in the rulebooks, but expand on them and look at them in new ways. That is stuff I pay for (or did, in the past).
But a web enhancement as content to pay for? Imagine a web enhancement (which to me is basically ideas of the authors that did not fit into the original product) being included in an Dragon issue of the past. I think that this does not belong into Dragon, as it just does add a few more encounters I can do without, but nothing new to the topic overall. Would be wasted print space to me.
And paying for that stuff? The content was cut from the book in the first place, I bought the book, and now should pay _again_ for content that was deemed irrelevant enough to be left out without damaging the product? And that is viewed as adding overall value to the DI?
If that is WotCs way of thinking, they need to think again.
EDIT: You were right about it being labeled Web Enhanced. I just did not expect something like this to be included in Dragon.
Stefan
My reply on the Wizard's site, for what it is or isn't worth:
2e information was still being published until the last issue before 3e and snippets of the new rules were appearing during the transition time. WHERE IS THIS???
Back then apparently White Wolf took those early rules and wound up getting product to market even before Wizards could. They won't make that mistake again. By the time we learn of the new game mechanics their products will be on shelves and priced to move. There's me defending Wizards using a necessary-but-uncomfortable-for-the-consumer tactic.
I'm a bit worried that 4th edition is aiming to be the best slow moving videogame ever. (and it doesn't lose your place when the power goes out!) The bottom line does not truly care about the culture created by a product or the astounding intelligence of its fanship. The illusion of corporate concern is usually enough keep the peace. However, A CFO's misconceptions about the bottom line and the strategies they employ can bodybag even a company on the rise. Competition is generally a good thing in business, it actually helps a company to thrive, especially if the company can find ways to co-opt their own competition with licensing and cross deals, something Wizards is easily capable of but I'm guessing will choose not to do.
It all is what it is... and all my messages in bottles are futiley clacking mid sea against everyone elses', forming a glassy amalgamation of consumer fear and mistrust whose bobbing glint must be too blinding for those in power to look at and address directly. However, they cannot help but to hear out clamor so their telling silence is likely strategy.
I sincerely hope that the new product (as it may be more than just an edition) does not dismiss (gorilla pimp slap) fans of the current game in favor of catering to and recruiting the younger demographic, but if that's what's on the menu some long time some clients will just move on and support the other 30% of the RPG market. I think Wizards is fully prepared to lose that quotient for the gains they've projected, which would go a long way in explaining why taking the time to quell the restless isn't a top priority. That said, I wrote a letter to Scott Rouse when everyone was hopping mad after the Dungeon/Dragon announcement and the man had the class to reply with a rather thoughtful and hopeful letter which tackled my every expressed concern. So, if company statement answers aren't doing it for you consider dropping someone important a respectful email and ask your questions directly and without hyperbole (though I do love it so). Like Sebastian, we all just want what's best for this game we all adore.
As always Jade, with a golden tongue.
Thank you, Sebastian. I thought it was just me. You summed it up perfectly!
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It adds more value to the DI product.It adds false value to the DI product.
Just making something "exclusive," or "subscription only," doesn't give that thing value.
Also taking stuff that was free and deciding to repackage it as "Dragon Magazine" and making people pay for it doesn't add value to the DI. It simply lets people know that they are paying too much for DI.
I expect the content to be amazing and way beyond what they offered for free in the past. It isn't as of now. I will not subscribe on a promise of "we'll do better, really!" just like I won't hand money to someone who has let me down before on their word.
WotC has failed thus far. I will not trust them. If my socks aren't knocked off with a product they will not get anymore of my patronage.
Hey, you're preaching to the choir here. My last post may not have been clear enough regarding my feelings on the topic. I think it sucks. Wizards has essentially lost me as a customer due to the horrendous handling of this transition (especially the mags).
I just pointed out what I believe to be the thought process at WotC. To the marketing boyos, taking a formerly popular IP (the mags) and changing it to a new format is risky. The more they can bundle into it to add perceived value (wow! look at the 30 articles this month! this is teh l33t!) is good. if someone complains that the web enhancements were formerly free, big whoop. The magazines were formerly print, and now are an online subscription. Compared to that change, the change with web enhancements is chump change.
Sebastian
great post, I agree with what you said most definitely
my only thing is, if it had been me, I would have left the Paizo comparisons out of it, or maybe worded them differently. Granted you have to take the comments over there with a grain of salt, but it might also be
easy to say your post was a "Paizo fanboy" post Maybe when you mentioned using these boards, you might have specifically stated "in regard to the Dugeon and Dragon magazines". I know you meant that, as does everyone here, but you have to remember, simple words and clear explanations when dealing with simple minds
oops did I say that?
;)
as an aside
I think Mohan was slipped in because the name is so close to Mona
it's the Dick York, Dick Seargent thing from Bewithced all over again!!! They thought we wouldn't notice!!
I think Mohan was slipped in because the name is so close to Mona
I realize you were being facetious, but the reality is probably based on the following:
1. Kim Mohan is a WotC employee with lots of editorial experience.
2. He was editor of Dragon for a long time (perhaps a decade) during the TSR years.
3. He has quasi-old school cred.
In combination, it's pretty much a no-brainer. If I were WotC, I'd have given Mohan the job too. About the only person who'd have been better is Roger E. Moore, but, unless I'm mistaken, he's no longer working in the RPG biz in any capacity. A pity too.
All that said, I think this is another example of the corporate tin ear we've seen when dealing with a lot of early 4E stuff. I get the impression, perhaps wrongly, that the vociferously negative reaction of a minority of 3E's fans, coupled with "wait and see" skepticism on the part of a larger minority was unexpected and indeed unplanned for.
My guess is that most everyone at WotC believed the announcement of 4E would be heralded with the same collective cheers that greeted 3E's announcement eight years ago. When it didn't happen, they were left scratching their heads and, to some extent, they still are.
I expect this will change as time goes on and they get a better handle on just why some people (a minority of a minority, to be sure) are ticked off, but it'll take time, by which point many people, myself included, will be beyond convincing.
Hi Kim,
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I've got an idea. Why don't you go ahead and waste our time and tell us how your particular brand of electronic publishing works and why this method is better...
Knew we kept you around for some reason Sebastian - Great job!
Although.. Ouch.. Kim Mohan resonates with me as the *Best* of the pre-Paizo editors (maybe him and Roger Moore). Can't believe he wrote that.
[Edit: Wow, just read the post right before mine - perfect agreement.]
My reply on the Wizard's site, for what it is or isn't worth:
Hey, Jade, wasn't trying to be rude in my response. Just trying to bring my point home. Everything out there is fluff. I want dirt : )
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I'm glad everyone's got a happy vibe for Kim Mohan. I was a big fan of Chris Perkins before he became just another PR puking automaton around the time of the Dragon/Dungeon cancellation. Here's hoping that Kim Mohan lives up to his reputation and will step outside WotC's ivory tower to give us his thoughts.
Hey, Jade, wasn't trying to be rude in my response. Just trying to bring my point home. Everything out there is fluff. I want dirt : )My reply on the Wizard's site, for what it is or isn't worth:
Not at all! I saw your question wondering why Wizards wasn't giving us previews of the new edition and thought I might have a reasonable answer.
The rest of my post was just aimed into the wind, and therein one can clearly surmise that I don't think we're being told jack spit either. (my original reason for going over to Wizards to post tonight)
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Your "letter" has merit and makes some good points, but I admit I was stunned to see Kim Mohan's name on this. He had a really good run as EIC of dragon in the past, and will likely do so again.Yeah. I agree with much of what Sebastian wrote, but Kim Mohan is perhaps the great editor of D&D, responsible for a great run on Dragon and making many books much better. Of all potential Dragon editors he needs no more qualification.
I don't remember Mohan's years as EIC for Dragon--almost all of my pre-3.x Dragon experience was during the Roger Moore years. Roger E. Moore, now he was an entertaining guy with a great sense of humor--even if they did include gnomes with outrageous French accents.
Nice work Sebastian - I'm tempted to head over to the WOTC site to add my voice - now if only they'd send me my frikken password for the boards so I could post... you'd think three requests would be enough...
They've heard abou you.
Nice work Sebastian - I'm tempted to head over to the WOTC site to add my voice - now if only they'd send me my frikken password for the boards so I could post... you'd think three requests would be enough...
They've heard abou you.
Yah, if you think that's bad, just wait until you try to fly within the United States.
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Nice work Sebastian - I'm tempted to head over to the WOTC site to add my voice - now if only they'd send me my frikken password for the boards so I could post... you'd think three requests would be enough...They've heard abou you.Yah, if you think that's bad, just wait until you try to fly within the United States.
I keep telling people, that ‘incident’ with the three girls, the tequila and the horse was NOT what it looked like.