Alright last night group encountered the Hydra and the run in with the pirate ship. We are headed towards the new island on the 3 month journey at sea.
Question:
Our wizard just through a fireball at the pirate ship and killed most of the crew without us getting to talk to them. After killing them and inspecting the ship, we find that they were low on supplies, and in pretty bad shape. So my idea is maybe these guys weren't bad, and maybe we should have chatted with them.
Has anyone tried this approach and not had to fight them?
Alright last night group encountered the Hydra and the run in with the pirate ship. We are headed towards the new island on the 3 month journey at sea.
Question:
Our wizard just through a fireball at the pirate ship and killed most of the crew without us getting to talk to them. After killing them and inspecting the ship, we find that they were low on supplies, and in pretty bad shape. So my idea is maybe these guys weren't bad, and maybe we should have chatted with them.
Has anyone tried this approach and not had to fight them?
Were they flying a pirate flag? if so, they were "bad", and you'll have a hard time convincing your players otherwise... If not, then you might have a good catalyst for some PC guilt brewing :)
they were flying a flag, but it almost seemed like they were wanting to discuss something. I know that if our paladin killed one and he wasn't evil and we attacked unprovoked then she would be in a little trouble. I asked the DM about this and he didn't say they were evil, he just said that she didn't actually attack anything, she failed her balance check on a plank to board the other ship real bad and fell in the water. I was just thinking though. This ship had no supplies, nothing at all, and was in bad shape.
they were flying a flag, but it almost seemed like they were wanting to discuss something. I know that if our paladin killed one and he wasn't evil and we attacked unprovoked then she would be in a little trouble. I asked the DM about this and he didn't say they were evil, he just said that she didn't actually attack anything, she failed her balance check on a plank to board the other ship real bad and fell in the water. I was just thinking though. This ship had no supplies, nothing at all, and was in bad shape.
They were evil and wanted to steal your stuff, not ask for help.
everything is not as it seems in this game.
these guys were out to get your stuff. i think they are either crimson fleet or scarlet brotherhood. one way or another they planned on doing you harm. your wizard did good. adopt the mentality that everything you meet in this voyage wants to do you harm. throw fireballs first, ask questions later. there are no good guy pirates, only evil ones here.
Attention Metagamers! Feel you don't get enough info from your DM as he runs the campaign? Hey, come to this board and ask. All is yours to know!
I figured they were bad, i just thought their conditions were odd.
If a ship at sea be floyin aul Jolly Roger,
it's a fight they be wantin', arr me boyo!
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Attention Metagamers! Feel you don't get enough info from your DM as he runs the campaign? Hey, come to this board and ask. All is yours to know!
Sounds like you need your own thread entitled THE CHEATERS' THREAD FOR CHEATING AT D&D.
Tired of your DM not telling you stuff you're not supposed to know? Come here for the answers! Learn about encounters and traps before you encounter them so you can be ready for it and totally screw your DM!GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
::where's my I Hate Metagamers shirt?::
Mr. Greer,
Apparently I did not make it apparent to you that I was using SARCASM when I posted and was actually deriding the original poster's fishing for metagame info.
Gold Katana
Mr. Greer,
Apparently I did not make it apparent to you that I was using SARCASM when I posted and was actually deriding the original poster's fishing for metagame info.
Gold Katana
Sorry, my detect sarcasm supernatural ability was supressed or something :\ In that case, welcome to the club!
::hands Gold Katana a I Hate Metagamers shirt::
It sounds like he just wanted to converse about the situation. Cut the poster some slack. It's easy enough to get the answers to things if he wants. Just stop by a shop and pick up the magazine.
My group haven't begun their sea journey, but I'm curious to see how they will respond to the situation.
so am i not allowed to discuss the situation here on the message boards with other players. hmmm. didn't realize that this wasn't the place for that. I am not trying to fish for extra info, if I wanted it I could just go get the magazine, I bought it myself, but I haven't read anything to avoid cheating. oh yeah, it would be a lot different if I were asking about something that I haven't done yet, sort of like the trex thread like the one on the front page. just calm down yall.
these guys were out to get your stuff. i think they are either crimson fleet or scarlet brotherhood. one way or another they planned on doing you harm. your wizard did good. adopt the mentality that everything you meet in this voyage wants to do you harm. throw fireballs first, ask questions later. there are no good guy pirates, only evil ones here.
Sorry, Anum. I was just jumping on Gold Katana's post. I didn't realize he was ribbing you. There's actually nothing wrong with your original post and I think the above quoted reply to it sums up my own thoughts pretty well. As written, the AP kind of assumes some character knowledge that the waters of Jeklea Bay and the nearby Azure Sea are frought with peril, most of which is due to piracy. Pirates often run low on supplies and attack other ships to restock as well as for more valuable plunder. If you are trying to ease you conscious because you feel guilty that you may have taken out fellow sailors that meant you no harm, I think you have nothing to worry about. While you may never know what the intent of the other ship's crew was, it's better to err on the side of safety (yours and your crewmates).
Fireball first, ask questions later... It's a good strategy, methinks.
Has anyone tried this approach and not had to fight them?
Nope. My players did what yours did by fireballing the crew from afar and taking out the rest when they approached. They even spread the crews/passengers from the other two ships to add the pirate ship to the "armada". My group's "captain"(Aventi Swashbuckler/Rogue) is pretty resourceful.
so am i not allowed to discuss the situation here on the message boards with other players. hmmm. didn't realize that this wasn't the place for that. I am not trying to fish for extra info, if I wanted it I could just go get the magazine, I bought it myself, but I haven't read anything to avoid cheating. oh yeah, it would be a lot different if I were asking about something that I haven't done yet, sort of like the trex thread like the one on the front page. just calm down yall.
It seems to me that the Dungeon borads are *mostly* filled with DM's trading stores, ideas and help. Maybe the dragon boards are a better place for players to troll... I dont know.
Any player reading these boards will come across spoilers, so beware here **ARRGGGHH** if getting metagame info is not your goal.