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37 shootings in 72 hours with 6 deaths.....sounds like Iraq to me but no, IT'S FRIGGIN' PHILADELPHIA!!!! A few of the injured were at a nightclub where NOT ONE PERSON wants to help out the police with a description! The news is showing a whole crowd of people being questioned about the shooting where everyone is saying stuff like "wow, what is this city coming to" and "They act like its the wild west here" but those same people's responses when asked what they saw? "I didn't see nuttin'!" and "I don't see the cops as helpin' so I ain't saying nothin'."
As bad as the criminals are, when a people won't stand up against oppression, that is an even greater crime. Criminals wouldn't be shooting with impunity if they knew that society wouldn't protect them. All the a$$holes who saw what happened and refuse to stand up deserve to live in fear of these monsters.
I saw a dude sellin' drugs on my little small-town street a few days ago. Told him that I was calling the cops(which I did) and told him that everytime I see him I will call. I don't expect people to do the whole confrontation thing, but the police can't do their jobs if you don't help! They can't be everywhere at once. It is our jobs as citizens to help protect and maintain a descent society.
DO YOUR F*&#ING JOB, PHILLY!!!!
(is that enough angst to restart the thread)
FH

Liberty's Edge

Oh, I'm mad. I'm just stewing in it.


DArn tootin; if people wont stick up for themselves and turn bad guys over to the police; then I have no pity for their culture of fear; I too have called the police and turned peeps in when I saw a breakin; cops said they didnt need my statement though since the theives cut themselves on the window entering believe it or not a church; took a tv and a microwave then had the audacity to walk right by my house carrying the stuff; my and my whole roleplaying group saw them go both ways and break the window; hehe i was talking to the police as they were jeering us; it was all I could do to keep my friends calmed down and not beat the crud out of them; police finally came and arrested them; said there was so much evidence they didnt need our statements, but thanked us for giving a darn and giving a call.

It is unbelievable that that Philly thing would happen and get no descriptions; sheesh; so much for liberty.


Mini Rant:

3AM basic cable in St. Louis with 15 channels of infomercials and the only non informercial channel is running Dawson's Creek. There are no winners here tonight...

As ever,
ACE


Darn tootin; Dish isnt much better.


ok; I am really despizing and hating journalists at the moment; story after story of complete garbage misrepresented and edited so that nothing means anything, not facts, just opinions of how your should feel; sheesh, sometimes I feel like that tv character "just the facts please".


Valegrim wrote:
ok; I am really despizing and hating journalists at the moment; story after story of complete garbage misrepresented and edited so that nothing means anything, not facts, just opinions of how your should feel; sheesh, sometimes I feel like that tv character "just the facts please".

I'm not sure what level of news you're talking about (national, local, etc.), but my own news related rant applies to the local. Their questions can be so damned asenine and invasive! "How do you feel about your daughter's murder?"

What the hell do they expect? "Oh, just peachy, Tom! I'm going to Disney World, since she won't need her tuition that we were saving up after all!"

Leave the grieving alone, and stop with the dumbass questions that don't mean anything.

Liberty's Edge

I like that one lady on NBC news. She's hawt.


theacemu wrote:

Mini Rant:

3AM basic cable in St. Louis with 15 channels of infomercials and the only non informercial channel is running Dawson's Creek. There are no winners here tonight...

As ever,
ACE

Oh man, I feel your pain. I'm living on the east side now and one summer we had no A/C and no cable. It was harsh.

My ma's house got TPed last night. LAME

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YeuxAndI wrote:
My ma's house got TPed last night. LAME

Wow... people still do that?!? One of my friends took the 'flaming bag of dog crap' prank to a whole new level a few years ago. He filled a 5' x 2' x 2' wooden crate with cow manure and transported it via pickup truck to his archrival's house, planted it in his front yard, soaked it in kerosene, and ignited it with a flare gun from the street as he sped away.

Now that's spite!


WTF! Why is CNN doing a story on prisoners in the Phillipenes doing the "Thriller" Michael Jackson dance? And then comparing it to the rendition in 13 Going on 30!? That is ten minutes of my life you just wasted Mr. and Ms. I-don't-care-what-the-f$*$-your-name-is-you're-just-a-newscaster-because-yo u're-pretty. There was only this between two commercial breaks for crying out loud!

I'll give them this--they do know their target audience. I bet their ratings just shot right up.[/synicism]

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Question: This thread is in the D&D section, so do all rants have to be about D&D? I've seen ones that aren't, but I originally intended this one to go in the "Random S&%!e Thread" before it turned into a rant. Just wondering.

Edit: Never mind. This thread stopped being only about D&D a long time ago, apparently. Like the untitled thread, sort of.

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I read this in another thread. I won't implicate the poster, but here's the quote:

Someone wrote:
Bloodlines from Unearthed Arcana are OGL, might be an idea for sorcerers to auto. have a minor bloodline. IMO they could use the minor boost, them and wizards for both are rather weak classes. Once their spells go poof I'd rather take a commoner or expert with me.

Sorcerers... and wizards... are weak?!? How do you make this assertation with a straight face? Yeah, they might be a little on the wimpy side the first couple of levels but once they get up to 5th or 6th level, their power curve makes a dramatic upswing!

I should really start up a thread in the play-by-post section called 'Take On Fatey's 20th-level Wizard in One-on-One Combat!' There would be carnage of unparalelled proportions. I'm tired of people bashing my homeboys.

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

Fatespinner wrote:
YeuxAndI wrote:
My ma's house got TPed last night. LAME

Wow... people still do that?!? One of my friends took the 'flaming bag of dog crap' prank to a whole new level a few years ago. He filled a 5' x 2' x 2' wooden crate with cow manure and transported it via pickup truck to his archrival's house, planted it in his front yard, soaked it in kerosene, and ignited it with a flare gun from the street as he sped away.

Now that's spite!

How do you stomp that out? I thought the point was to get the poo on their shoe or foot.


Fatespinner wrote:
YeuxAndI wrote:
My ma's house got TPed last night. LAME

Wow... people still do that?!? One of my friends took the 'flaming bag of dog crap' prank to a whole new level a few years ago. He filled a 5' x 2' x 2' wooden crate with cow manure and transported it via pickup truck to his archrival's house, planted it in his front yard, soaked it in kerosene, and ignited it with a flare gun from the street as he sped away.

Now that's spite!

I knew a guy that was having a bad day. So when someone cut him off on the freeway, he followed them home, and stole the door to their house. He attached their front door to the back of his truck, and drove off with the thing. It took road rage to a whole new level. (It also makes me wonder about people I see get cut off every day from the bus.)

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Daigle wrote:
How do you stomp that out? I thought the point was to get the poo on their shoe or foot.

I think the goal in this case was to cloak your entire neighborhood in the unpleasant odor of burning cow s~+#. He didn't hang around to see the results of his handywork, but I have every reason to believe it would have worked.


Wow did I have a mostly crappy week; my separated wife; there has to be a better word for that btw, says she is going to fight to not give me any custody over the kids; hope that doesnt happen and on a lighter note; the comic store sold my comic to someone else so now i have to wait for the next shipement; yeah, not the same scale, but still dissappointing.

somebody rant for me; am emotionally exhausted...

Liberty's Edge

Valegrim wrote:

Wow did I have a mostly crappy week; my separated wife; there has to be a better word for that btw, says she is going to fight to not give me any custody over the kids; hope that doesnt happen and on a lighter note; the comic store sold my comic to someone else so now i have to wait for the next shipement; yeah, not the same scale, but still dissappointing.

somebody rant for me; am emotionally exhausted...

It was an effed up week all around.

My kids got some puking stomach virus, then my wife got it. She's preggers. I didn't get much sleep...
It's over though.
That effen bites, dude. A dad should get SOME custody over his kids, so at least they have a dad rolemodel and all. No less you probably want to see your kids.


Valegrim wrote:

Wow did I have a mostly crappy week; my separated wife; there has to be a better word for that btw, says she is going to fight to not give me any custody over the kids; hope that doesnt happen and on a lighter note; the comic store sold my comic to someone else so now i have to wait for the next shipement; yeah, not the same scale, but still dissappointing.

somebody rant for me; am emotionally exhausted...

You have my sympathies and deepest wishes that things resolve themselves for the best for you. I'm sorry to hear that you're going through such troubling times.


thanks all.

The Exchange

Valegrim wrote:
thanks all.

I been through it. A woman that at one time thought I was terrific decided to stomp on everything good in my life. She even told me that my daughter (this was 18 years ago, BTW) may not be mine because she had slept with such-and-such.

A paternity test, 18 years of child support, 40-50 thousand in legal fees, a drug addiction, the addition of a burning hatred in my life and a desire to "party" away the pain was what I got out of it. It took years to get straightened out.
I hope yours ends up better.
A man will leave a relationship, a woman will try to f**king destroy every thing you ever liked in life then crap on you. But men are considered cold-hearted.
Unless the laws in your state are geared toward equal rights for fathers and mothers (not the sham that is "joint custody" or you get to see you kid every other weekend, once on a weeknight and pay huge amounts of child support) then you are screwed. I lived in New Jersey and showed up to court with a good lawyer, a daughter telling me about mommy "using a straw to make dust disappear", and several police reports pertaining to her telling the cops, which I called due to not being allowed my court ordered visitation, that I could go to hell before being allowed to see my kid. And they told me that "A childs mother is a very important part of a kids life". WTF is a father!

Anyway, sorry I didn't blow sunshine but it is an ugly road you are beginning down and its best to prep yourself for disappointment, anger and some misery. Make sure you have support or you will fall. Any questions I can help with I will and I hope for the best for you.

FH


Ahh yes I remember being 8-9 years old and my parents getting a divorce over mum's love of the bottle. But thats another story.

MAN I CANT FIND A REAL GROUP TO PLAY WITH IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN TOWN ANYMORE. My faithful group simply stopped having interest in D&D and just are head over heels about LOT5R, which i am not into that whole asian themed thing unless it involved japanese school girls and/or tentacles.

And the group I was possibly going to go with disbanded because they...
1) they only met once a week and played for ONE HOUR, ONE! everyone was so busy with life they played for an hour, they had a fight, just one fight, and that was it for the week, bye! see ya'll next week! I love games where you are pulling all nighters, i'm sorry you can't do squat in an hour at the pace they did..... and....
2) They met at the card shop and the owner was found to have been like....i forget the exacts but involved young children and sex charges and the store was forced to close, makes me wish I knew that earlier so I would have taken advantage of the 90% OFF CLEARANCE ON EVERYTHING THERE. I could have had to many new MTG cards :(

I never found out where those folks lived so I can't contact them, one was a hot, petite goth girl too... rawr. They were all kids compared to me though.

Ugh I need to find a group somewhere within these 3 tiny tiny towns (one i live in and the two to each side of me)

DAMN YOU SOUTH EASTERN MICHIGAN! YOU ARE SO BORING :(

And whats with this new mega man network crap? WHY DID THEY DISCONTINUE NORMAL MEGA MAN?! I remember the good old days of mega man 1, 2, and 3 for good ol NES. 3 was my favorite and fighting spark man and snake man.... sigh.... and all the nights of blowing into the cartridge and smaking it on my knee and jamming it hard into the NES to try and make it work... those were the days.

I'm not gay but WHO CARES WHAT GAYS DO? let people have their private lives to themself, jeez :\.

on a minor note: I hate lesbians, I LOVE gays but HATE lesbians and there is a big reason for that... the more gays there are the less competition I have for the ladies, but bi/lez girls are more competition! so women stay straight! guys go do other guys or w/e it is you do... go be a fashion designer in california, i don't care just gimme my girls girls girls!

And thats another thing... SCREW BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT! What happened to our society? I can't even say black! As a better topic whats with all this reverse discrimination? I don't mean with schools and such (We michiganders were smart enough to end that garbage) I mean with things such like.... black history month... when do a single race get a month to themself? Listen you are not african-american or latino-american or whatnot... YOU ARE AMERICAN AMERICAN. If you want to be called african-american then call me european american. Its like the BLACK entertainment television? I mean how BLATANTLY racist can you be?

It's already known "whites" will be a minority one day, what will happen then? Will we get the sweet amount of perks for being a minority like everyone else seems to be getting now? Somehow I doubt that. Like the United Negro College Fund. More racism! Where is the White college fund? YOU CANT DO THAT CAUSE THATS RACIST >.> jesse jackson will be all up in there in a second. Let me tell you something, jesse jackson and al sharpton are the most racist people on the planet. Does anyone remember all those scandals involving al sharpton and using slurs like "hymie town"? i never even heard of that word till recently, made me lol. i dont even know if I said it right, some kind of jewish slur.

And what about these girls that like bad boys? What the hell is wrong with these girls? I asked a few and all I get is "Date the bad boy, marry the good guy." WHAT KIND OF MENTALLY CHALLENGED THINKING IS THAT? I mean we nerds are 99% of the time the good guys and all we just PRAY we want to do is just please you enough to like us or do w/e it takes but you just push aside and give us the "be friends" speech or the "i don't feel that way about you" speech. I HAVE HAD THESE SPEECHES SAID TO ME BEFORE! I FEEL THE PAIN! But somewhere along the way I guess we try to hard to be on your good side and you don't see it as us trying to get your attention but rather think of it as just being friendly... WE LIKE YOU! LOOK AT US :( Don't go for that bald headed guy with some souped up car and picks on everyone else. I have read about these things before and many girls say its about they like a confident guy, well confidence doesnt include a sh1tty and arrogant attitude, ok? You are the world to us! What I would give to have some beautiful woman to wake up next to me for the rest of my life. I WOULD GIVE UP ON MY 19 YEAR CAREER OF GAMING (22 now, been playing since i was 3 on good ol atari 2600) JUST TO BE WITH YOU! Is that what it will take?
So many pretty girls out there fooled by jocks and other idiots that pick on others, I just don't get how a girl would just be all head over heels for some guy who picks on the nerds :\ it's like some 80s movie like better off dead or revenge of the nerds. They may be movies but what they say is true.. A LOT. I remember all of this in high school which was for me only like 4 years ago.

God I want to go to some sort of nerd convention... like comic-con or gen-con... GOOD LORD I WANNA GO TO GEN-CON :( I live in michigan so indiana is not TOO FAR of a drive but jeez I have never had the money or people that would want to go with me >.< so its like why bother? I would never go by myself to that :(

WHEN WILL REALITY TV DIE? PLEASE DIE Q.Q so many shows I know people say "GOD THIS SUCKS WHY DO THEY HAVE THIS ON?" but they are watching it while they say that! So the answer is that you watch it so the makers get paid, even if you are watching it to complain! Like those brats on my super sweet 16! I don't watch it but my sister does and all she does is complain! WELL DON'T WATCH IT, LESS MONEY FOR THEM! The only reality tv that has ever caught my eye was hogan knows best (hulk hogan f'in rules even out of the ring >.>) and the new rock of love (because brett michaels is too cool, and the chicks on there are friggin hot).

Going onto the brett michaels rock of love thing and racism again. Every girl would like hug him or something... EXCEPT the two black girls that were eliminated, I mean c'mon! I'm not sure if they were angry at him cause they were playing the race card or something but the only 2 black girls get eliminated on there and they both just get all b!$&@y at him and leave and disrespect him like that >.> ouch. It's not like they didn't look good. The only real thing I got against black girls is some of those AWFUL hair do's, I gag when I see cornrolls and all that. But hey many black girls are hot, Halle berry *drools*. And I don't know what all of you are thinking but that tyra banks is NOT hot. ugh god x.x bad taste!

I will say this though, white skinny girls are hotter than skinny black girls BUT black big girls are hotter than white big girls. So you black skinny girls gain some weight and you big white girls lose it and everything will be A-OK..... but asian girls pwn everything <3

Who the heck is this lovecraft guy and why is everyone nuts about him? Why do these stupid authors have to have their intitials first? H.P. Lovecraft? J.K. Rowling? Only tolkien is leet enough to do such a thing. I should just call myself M.K. Sanders.

GRIEF COUNSELORS FOR POTTER'S DEATH!? ROFFLE MY WAFFLES!

I miss chugworth.com

WHEN WILL WIZARDS EVER TRULY FINISH THEIR CHARACTER GENERATOR THAT NEVER REALLY SAW THE LIGHT OF DAY?

I miss the only g/f that I ever had irl :( even if she did cheat on me and get pregnant... sigh... she was an ice skater and just had this incredible figure... she was a hardcore gamer like me <3... gamer girls are just the best to us... and she came to my house in tight jeans with a hot pink corset... ahhh march 1st 2004 how long it has been :( her and her dark pigtails... just SO SO HOT. One day i'll lose my virginity, got to like 3rd base with her... so close x.x

I laff at people that dress all punk like and go for non-conformity and anti establishment but they end up dressing like everyone else of their kind, thus another form of conformity... I mean what the HELL is the use of all those chains on your pants anyways? I mean why are you idiot kids wearing black pants on a hot summer day covered in chains? Has your love for bad music melted your brain or something? All that black and baggy clothes on a 95 degree day just shows how stupid you are! Sure show love for your music on some days but just show us you have some common sense too!

And let me tell you something. Just because I like to play on the computer all day does not make me anti social, all day I sit and chat on battle.net playing starcraft with my friends. I'm stuck here in hillbilly central where a good time is smoking up and bar hopping till 3 am... and they complain when i dont wanna go outside and drink! LEAVE ME ALONE! LEAVE ME ALONE! LEAVE ME ALONE! I grew up my ENTIRE LIFE going to extremely few parties, only those for my closest friends (or those few close friends i ever had) and was never invited to some popular party that someone would just throw for the heck of it, not even one because I was an unpopular nerd. Thus this online stuff is where I meet people just like me and we connect! Now you just want me to become part of your group?! TO HELL WITH YOU! Where were you all to invite me all those years ago? All you cared about was popularity and didn't even give me a glance. This is my sanctuary now and I enjoy being here with all of you, don't pull me to your drinking, smoking, and fun with mary jane. I don't drink and I don't smoke or do drugs and I'm darn proud of it, don't make fun of me for it YOU FRIGGIN IDIOTS.

Why am I freakin being pushed to find a career so fast? I have thought all my life what I want to do but I can't decide, I always think of something I might wanna do but then I second guess it and end up outweighing the bads to the goods. So what? I'm still young and have all the time in the world to spend the next 30 years doing one thing over and over again every single day. If I want a career it has to be in something I like... like gaming..... any openings here, it's the only thing that brings me joy! I want to get FAR FAR AWAY FROM HERE and be like some sort of idea guy or something. Even if its just to sit at a conference table and talk about ideas.... WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT GAMING! I mean thats my dream! When I get talking about gaming I can go on forever! MMMMMM YES GIMME GAMING! I want to be the next gary gygax... and where can I find wayne renolds to give me drawing lessons?! He's a god! I would without hesitation get out of this horrible state to halfway around the world if it would get me a stable job with a gaming or pen and paper gaming company like paizo or something. And you know what happens after the day is done? I get to go home to SILENCE. Many people dont like quiet but i cant GET ENOUGH OF QUIET. This house is so loud and boisterous and noisy EVERY SINGLE DAY! I can note a few days when the phone LITERALLY rang every 5 minutes, because not only would I complain but everyone else in the house complains too. I would just LOVE the privacy also. Having to deal with siblings poking fun at me constantly at a drunken mother and her husband that doesnt have a job but gets on the rest of the family for being lazy when he hasnt had a stable job in over 2 years and now he spends his days watching tv and getting high during the day while she works... NO JOKE.

I WANT OUT OF THIS HOUSE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE WHERE YOU ARE :( Even if I am working in a darn cubicle or something, get me out of here! I have 32 college credits so I can still easily change my major to w/e I need to to get whatever necessary degree needed to be where you guys are. And if you say english and lit & comp i'll kill ya! I don't want to be all proper in my writing when working on imaginary stuff ok! I don't want to be a business man, I just want to work with doing the stuff I love so I don't go nuts one day at some job I hate and end up going off on everybody with a shot gun!

I would rant some more but I been writing this for 50 minutes now... i'm so tired :( nearly 2 am... i'll rant more later.


Fox_Reeveheart wrote:
I mean we nerds are 99% of the time the good guys and all we just PRAY we want to do is just please you enough to like us or do w/e it takes but you just push aside and give us the "be friends" speech or the "i don't feel that way about you" speech. I HAVE HAD THESE SPEECHES SAID TO ME BEFORE! I FEEL THE PAIN! But somewhere along the way I guess we try to hard to be on your good side and you don't see it as us trying to get your attention but rather think of it as just being friendly... WE LIKE YOU!

Amen brother.

These days I usually tell them. "Oh, shame. Well I've got enough friends as it is. Goodbye."
Really works on getting that guilt-trip into action. Mind you I've got a large amount of female friends that I hang out with because it is my choice that I want to be their friend.

Just stick in there. It'll happen one day. America, land of opportunities or some such, right?


I've spent all weekend in hospital. My newborn is suffering from an urine infection. Nothing to worry about, but poor thing is having a real bad time.

Health care system in Spain is free. That means all hospital expenses are covered and you don't pay a single dime. But on the other hand, individual attention is nearly non-existant. You share your room with one or even two other patients. Doctors come and see you five minutes in the morning, the only time you have to ask them any question. And I am lucky because my hospital is one of the best in Spain regarding children care. But when you see your son crying in his little bed, and no doctor to ask "what the hell is going wrong"...you feel really sad and furious at the same time.

Fortunately, God created nurses on seventh day. If it weren't for their constant support, care, and kindness, I would feel completely lost. But they are always there, ready to help you. They are the heart and the soul of the hospital. I, we, have to deeply thank them for their silent watch, for their help, for the love they show every day, every hour, for the little babies of the third floor of the Hospital Materno Infantil.

daedel, el azote.

Scarab Sages

Fake Healer wrote:

37 shootings in 72 hours with 6 deaths.....sounds like Iraq to me but no, IT'S FRIGGIN' PHILADELPHIA!!!! A few of the injured were at a nightclub where NOT ONE PERSON wants to help out the police with a description! The news is showing a whole crowd of people being questioned about the shooting where everyone is saying stuff like "wow, what is this city coming to" and "They act like its the wild west here" but those same people's responses when asked what they saw? "I didn't see nuttin'!" and "I don't see the cops as helpin' so I ain't saying nothin'."

As bad as the criminals are, when a people won't stand up against oppression, that is an even greater crime. Criminals wouldn't be shooting with impunity if they knew that society wouldn't protect them. All the a$$holes who saw what happened and refuse to stand up deserve to live in fear of these monsters.
I saw a dude sellin' drugs on my little small-town street a few days ago. Told him that I was calling the cops(which I did) and told him that everytime I see him I will call. I don't expect people to do the whole confrontation thing, but the police can't do their jobs if you don't help! They can't be everywhere at once. It is our jobs as citizens to help protect and maintain a descent society.
DO YOUR F*&#ING JOB, PHILLY!!!!
(is that enough angst to restart the thread)
FH

You know, the sad thing is I live in Philly, and I never even heard of this happening.


AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
GODD@#MIT!

FIVE! Five dead friggin characters in one campaign! Not munchkin, not disruptive, not stupid. These were five well played characters that performed to the best of their ability, befitting of their characters, and taking sensible actions!

Two died in one fight because half of the party was cut off from the halfing druid who ran up to stop the tieflings and was expecting the dwarf to follow suit.

The halfling holds on for a long time hoping that the dwarf/warlock/or wizard would be able to finally kill the CR 1 manes that were attacking them (and as pitiful as the party was doing, they should have been much worse off since the DM forgot to account for the manes Damage reduction for the whole fight). The halfing holds on, he and his wolf are wounded badly, but so are both of the longspear weilding teiflings. So a teifling drops his spear and steps up and knocks the halfling into negatives, okay that's fine, BUT OH WAIT! The teiflings blade was poisioned ahead of time! Sasson leaf residue!? That poison by itself (deals 2d12 damage and then 1d6 con) would be enough to drop and kill any member of the THIRD LEVEL party all by itself. On top of that the teiflings apparently decided to sandbag their poisoned blades until they were about to die for some reason, f*&cking super. The wizard gets clawed to death by manes because they have three attacks per round and the rest of the party was rolling so terribly that the wizard made some last ditch effort to help, which put him too close to the front line.

NEW Characters!

Okay how about a gnome bard and gnome wizard!
Thats cool, run around in some ruins for awhile, kill some skeletons and about THIRTY goblins! A battle which we only won because of a summon swarm and invisibility combo killing two to three of them a round (a trick the DM didn't even know we were capeable of so who knows how he expected us to beat them). Anyway, the day after that make a spot check. Bad Roll? Okay, well a sphinx jumps out and rips you to peices before anyone can react. CR 5 melee type flying monster gets a full attack against a flat footed THIRD LEVEL WIZARD! AWESOME. The bard was a happy go lucky type of guy and a didn't want to play him as a sullen and depressed guy who watched his brother brutally murdered, so I had him leave, announcing that he kept his items and the majority of the items the wizard had on his body so that the party would not get an unneccesary money boost for the DM to deal with. Aren't I a great sport!?

NEW CHARACTERS!!

OKAY! HALFLING ROGUE AND HUMAN FIGHTER! They do GREAT. And they are powerful! the fighter has a 16 in dex and str, and the halfling has a 20 dex and 18 intelligence. They even were lucky enough to make it to 5th lvl and survive nearly FOUR WHOLE SESSIONS!

Okay the halfling scouts ahead and finds a small gully with some lizard folk blocking their path, he sees several more down the way. He sets a guard tower on fire for a distraction and runs to go get the party. They come back and wipe out almost half of the first wave in short notice, but not without a price, one of the lizardfolk had a bastard sword and hit pretty hard, and their were two rangers shooting at us with rapid shot and precise shot left, along with half a dozen lizard folk left clogging the valley and preventing the rogue from having any flanking opportunities. SIX more Lizard folk run up to join the fray. two rounds later SIX MORE, and these guys brought a druid with them! AND the druid brough his crocodile companion! Okay this is getting out of hand, hmm is retreat an option? Well lets see, the party is wounded and all are locked in melee with at least two opponents threatening each one of them. Running away means loosing your dexterity bonus And provoking attacks from all the combatants facing you, then you end up without a dex bonus while staying in range of the archers that could launch four attacks per round and even the dozen or so lizard folk left can move and throw javelins and the druid can still hit you with a lightning bolt! So running means the death of at least one, maybe two characters. Well, nevermind that whole running away thing because two HUGE centipedes with more rangers riding them SNEAK UP on the party and completely block all hope of retreat and provide flanking bonuses for all the little lizardfolk beating on the party. Oh, and next round six more lizardfolk arrive and these have one of the tougher fighters from before with them.

T P K

WOW F&%KING AWESOME!

The Exchange

Sexi Golem 01 wrote:

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

GODD@#MIT!

FIVE! Five dead friggin characters in one campaign! Not munchkin, not disruptive, not stupid. These were five well played characters that performed to the best of their ability, befitting of their characters, and taking sensible actions!

Two died in one fight because half of the party was cut off from the halfing druid who ran up to stop the tieflings and was expecting the dwarf to follow suit.

The halfling holds on for a long time hoping that the dwarf/warlock/or wizard would be able to finally kill the CR 1 manes that were attacking them (and as pitiful as the party was doing, they should have been much worse off since the DM forgot to account for the manes Damage reduction for the whole fight). The halfing holds on, he and his wolf are wounded badly, but so are both of the longspear weilding teiflings. So a teifling drops his spear and steps up and knocks the halfling into negatives, okay that's fine, BUT OH WAIT! The teiflings blade was poisioned ahead of time! Sasson leaf residue!? That poison by itself (deals 2d12 damage and then 1d6 con) would be enough to drop and kill any member of the THIRD LEVEL party all by itself. On top of that the teiflings apparently decided to sandbag their poisoned blades until they were about to die for some reason, f*&cking super. The wizard gets clawed to death by manes because they have three attacks per round and the rest of the party was rolling so terribly that the wizard made some last ditch effort to help, which put him too close to the front line.

NEW Characters!

Okay how about a gnome bard and gnome wizard!
Thats cool, run around in some ruins for awhile, kill some skeletons and about THIRTY goblins! A battle which we only won because of a summon swarm and invisibility combo killing two to three of them a round (a trick the DM didn't even know we were capeable of so who knows how he expected us to beat them). Anyway, the day after that make a spot check. Bad Roll? Okay, well a sphinx jumps out and...

Who is your DM? Anyone from the boards? That game doesn't sound fun at all. Sounds like a DM trying to show how awesome he can do at throwing more and more at the party until they finally bite it.

FH


sexi golem 01 wrote:

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

GODD@#MIT!

FIVE! Five dead friggin characters in one campaign! Not munchkin, not disruptive, not stupid. These were five well played characters that performed to the best of their ability, befitting of their characters, and taking sensible actions!

Two died in one fight because half of the party was cut off from the halfing druid who ran up to stop the tieflings and was expecting the dwarf to follow suit.

The halfling holds on for a long time hoping that the dwarf/warlock/or wizard would be able to finally kill the CR 1 manes that were attacking them (and as pitiful as the party was doing, they should have been much worse off since the DM forgot to account for the manes Damage reduction for the whole fight). The halfing holds on, he and his wolf are wounded badly, but so are both of the longspear weilding teiflings. So a teifling drops his spear and steps up and knocks the halfling into negatives, okay that's fine, BUT OH WAIT! The teiflings blade was poisioned ahead of time! Sasson leaf residue!? That poison by itself (deals 2d12 damage and then 1d6 con) would be enough to drop and kill any member of the THIRD LEVEL party all by itself. On top of that the teiflings apparently decided to sandbag their poisoned blades until they were about to die for some reason, f*&cking super. The wizard gets clawed to death by manes because they have three attacks per round and the rest of the party was rolling so terribly that the wizard made some last ditch effort to help, which put him too close to the front line.

NEW Characters!

Okay how about a gnome bard and gnome wizard!
Thats cool, run around in some ruins for awhile, kill some skeletons and about THIRTY goblins! A battle which we only won because of a summon swarm and invisibility combo killing two to three of them a round (a trick the DM didn't even know we were capeable of so who knows how he expected us to beat them). Anyway, the day after that make a spot check. Bad Roll? Okay, well a sphinx jumps out and rips you to peices before anyone can react. CR 5 melee type flying monster gets a full attack against a flat footed THIRD LEVEL WIZARD! AWESOME. The bard was a happy go lucky type of guy and a didn't want to play him as a sullen and depressed guy who watched his brother brutally murdered, so I had him leave, announcing that he kept his items and the majority of the items the wizard had on his body so that the party would not get an unneccesary money boost for the DM to deal with. Aren't I a great sport!?

NEW CHARACTERS!!

OKAY! HALFLING ROGUE AND HUMAN FIGHTER! They do GREAT. And they are powerful! the fighter has a 16 in dex and str, and the halfling has a 20 dex and 18 intelligence. They even were lucky enough to make it to 5th lvl and survive nearly FOUR WHOLE SESSIONS!

Okay the halfling scouts ahead and finds a small gully with some lizard folk blocking their path, he sees several more down the way. He sets a guard tower on fire for a distraction and runs to go get the party. They come back and wipe out almost half of the first wave in short notice, but not without a price, one of the lizardfolk had a bastard sword and hit pretty hard, and their were two rangers shooting at us with rapid shot and precise shot left, along with half a dozen lizard folk left clogging the valley and preventing the rogue from having any flanking opportunities. SIX more Lizard folk run up to join the fray. two rounds later SIX MORE, and these guys brought a druid with them! AND the druid brough his crocodile companion! Okay this is getting out of hand, hmm is retreat an option? Well lets see, the party is wounded and all are locked in melee with at least two opponents threatening each one of them. Running away means loosing your dexterity bonus And provoking attacks from all the combatants facing you, then you end up without a dex bonus while staying in range of the archers that could launch four attacks per round and even the dozen or so lizard folk left can move and throw javelins and the druid can still hit you with a lightning bolt! So running means the death of at least one, maybe two characters. Well, nevermind that whole running away thing because two HUGE centipedes with more rangers riding them SNEAK UP on the party and completely block all hope of retreat and provide flanking bonuses for all the little lizardfolk beating on the party. Oh, and next round six more lizardfolk arrive and these have one of the tougher fighters from before with them.

T P K

WOW F&%KING AWESOME!

You're DM sounds like the kind that is just out to kill your players Oo, should have him tone it down a bit. obviously I don't think you would have been able to take on all that anyways even a bit at a time >.> seems like WAY too much


I'm the DM. I'm not out to kill people, and I would much rather see characters live than die. I hate it when characters die, because it means unhappy players, unfulfilled plots, radical changes in the story, and (usually) awkward reintroductions of the new guys (Sexi has done an excellent job of making his reintegrations nearly seamless). A TPK is a travesty which I wish to avoid at all costs. But there were some goof ups last night.

The fight with the tieflings and manes? Perhaps it wasn't thorough enough or something, but I did analyze the groups abilities in planning it. Unfortunately, they managed to fight effectively and the chaos of battle turned against the party. It was a tough fight that went wrong- the luck of our group seems to come up with freakishly long streaks of low rolls sometimes. I'm sincere when I say I'm sorry about that, because I really liked both characters. To be fair, the wizard's name was "Devil Trohs," or "short lived" backwards because of his subpar ability scores.

The sphinx? If anyone else had been standing where the wizard was, they would have lived, though probably been at the negatives (or perhaps not, they all had higher AC). It won initiative, and did a charging pounce. That one was just plain bad luck. As far as the goblins go, I expected the rest of the party to stand behind the dwarf in the narrow passages as his insane AC blocked blow after blow, and for the few that hit, that's what the bard's healing and warlock's wands were for. But you did even better than I expected. It was 48 goblins you killed, by the way, plus the rogue leader.

Now, last night? We had played late two nights in a row, and that was one of the foremost causes of death. I was tired. You were in a hurry to get into a fight to get some XP to level your characters, and quite frankly rushed the scouting mission. The mud-slide slope I described to you was supposed to be a "back door" for the spider-climbing warlock and rest of the party (all of which had Climb) to exploit. But, before I explained, you went back to the guard tower and tried to light it on fire. I was on the verge of saying something to the effect of "there's a better way," but didn't want to railroad. I did mention you were going off the beaten path. I also gave many opportunities to notice the waves and waves of enemies coming up the path behind the foes you were already fighting, and it wasn't a band every round, it was every 3 rounds. Perhaps I should have been more clear and said "You need to fall back!" I surmised you would figure that out on your own, and then find the back way, since for all their swarming ability, the lizardfolk didn't have enough numbers to really further fortify their position.

At any rate, withdraw wasn't as bad an option as you expected. Your horses were around 100 feet away in a swamp, where you could have had cover from all the enemies. That hardly requires run actions, and until the centipedes came (12 rounds into this fight, and after mention that something large was moving along the cliffs on either side of you), you had enough resources left to beat a retreat and get out of there. For a little further insight, they wouldn't have followed you.

I really wanted to pull my punches, but all I've ever heard from you was "don't do that." So I didn't. I wanted you to get away, but basic tactics on their part led to the events of last night. You alerted the entire camp of lizardfolk, and they mounted an effective resistance. I'm sorry that it happened that way, and that I was a few seconds slow in describing that slope to you.

I'll throw in here that I'm not ready to abandon this game yet, and know of a very good and logical way to continue, perhaps even with your characters! If you'll accept it.

Liberty's Edge

Here's what I'd do you guys. Walk away from the whole deal for a day or two. Go see a movie, or catch some crawdads, or whatever the hell else you do. Let the tempers boil down, let the bad stuff run cooler.
Chalk the whole thing up to a learning experience/ breaking eggs/ whatever. Hit shappens.
I can't realistically sit here and analyze what went wrong, because I don't have the whole friggin story. But everybody remember that none of you are 100% in the right or in the wrong; it's rarely ever that way in life. When the crap hits the fan, everybody ends up covered in it; just kick back and see what you can figure out/what could've been done differently, and don't get all blamey on eachother.

My 2 cents...


crap

I'm glad that word isn't censored.


Heathansson wrote:

Here's what I'd do you guys. Walk away from the whole deal for a day or two. Go see a movie, or catch some crawdads, or whatever the hell else you do. Let the tempers boil down, let the bad stuff run cooler.

Chalk the whole thing up to a learning experience/ breaking eggs/ whatever. Hit shappens.
I can't realistically sit here and analyze what went wrong, because I don't have the whole friggin story. But everybody remember that none of you are 100% in the right or in the wrong; it's rarely ever that way in life. When the crap hits the fan, everybody ends up covered in it; just kick back and see what you can figure out/what could've been done differently, and don't get all blamey on eachother.

My 2 cents...

Sorry Heathy, fresh out of crawdads...

Seriously though, we're good.

Do I think that several of the circumstances surrounding and leading to my characters deaths mistakes? Yeah. But they are honest mistakes that have been apologized for. I'm not really one to hold a grudge but the TPK bugged me since I liked my characters so I blew off some steam on the rant thread, that's what it's here for. I'm actually over at Saern's right now making new characters that I'm really excited about.

My rant was just that, a verbal release of frustration with no target or objective.

S!!! happens and everyone makes mistakes, I realize this and, as usual, am over it.

So s'all gudd.

Liberty's Edge

Good. I don't want to read about you crazy D&D kids in the paper tomorrow. ;)

Silver Crusade

Heathansson wrote:
Good. I don't want to read about you crazy D&D kids in the paper tomorrow. ;)

Yeah, we need to keep the front page open for "Naked wolf-man terrorizes Texas town."


rather see naked she-wolf terrorizes Texas town :), but then I only read the paper a couple times a weeks so would prolly miss it.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Good. I don't want to read about you crazy D&D kids in the paper tomorrow. ;)
Yeah, we need to keep the front page open for "Naked wolf-man terrorizes Texas town."

Isn't that a normal weekend in the Lone Star State? It would probably be on page 16 along with coverage of the zoning board meetings.

Liberty's Edge

Bill Lumberg wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Good. I don't want to read about you crazy D&D kids in the paper tomorrow. ;)
Yeah, we need to keep the front page open for "Naked wolf-man terrorizes Texas town."
Isn't that a normal weekend in the Lone Star State? It would probably be on page 16 along with coverage of the zoning board meetings.

Where do ya think Bob Howard got all the idears for them Conanny books? I saw Thulsa Doom at Cracker Barrel last night. He was sitting in a rocking chair. His boa constrictor got mad when Thoth rocked over it's tail with his chair.


Well, that is where Ron Howard is from; ok; here is my rant; sheesh why do all the really great authors die so damn early; doggonit; life is hard enough! and a lot of the run o the mill guys last what seems like a few lifetimes. Fire twice as bright half as long I guess, but it still sucks; luckily there are a few guys like Piers Anthony and Rober Aspirin that are ancient and still writing, but mega sucks that guys that write in depth epics like Robort Jordan stuck his foot in the bucket early.
sheesh.

Liberty's Edge

*doik*

I am finally getting around to taking my driver's test (up until now; no license), and was reading the manual when a strange tidbit came to my attention. I quote:

"A school bus may be identified by a 'SCHOOL BUS' sign, the red lights on top, and its unique yellow/orange color."

Close in stupidity were:

"To park, stop the vehicle, shift gears to park, and turn off the vehicle," and "a red light at an intersection means stop."

Our government at work, people. *sarcastic applause*


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

*doik*

I am finally getting around to taking my driver's test (up until now; no license), and was reading the manual when a strange tidbit came to my attention. I quote:

"A school bus may be identified by a 'SCHOOL BUS' sign, the red lights on top, and its unique yellow/orange color."

Close in stupidity were:

"To park, stop the vehicle, shift gears to park, and turn off the vehicle," and "a red light at an intersection means stop."

Our government at work, people. *sarcastic applause*

While I'm not trying to defend the government as geniuses and agree that "driver's ed" was one of the largest wastes of time in my life (30 hours in class, but only 6 hours on the road? Shouldn't getting actual driving experience be the more important part of the course?), some of that is due to the ignorance of the general populace in this nation. Yet the general populace demands to be able to drive, so the courses are lowered to their level so they more or less are guaranteed to pass. When I did it a few years ago, I was amazed how many people weren't able to answer what a double yellow line meant, or what a red octogon meant. Of course, that could have just been their uncomfortability with anything resemling a test, or failing to comprehend the word octogon, but nonetheless....

I also remember a German foreign exchange student in the class, and she happened to have some form of paper currency (not sure if it was a Euro or something else); the important thing is that it had a picture of the continent of Europe on it. One of the dumbest kids I've ever met, whom I'd had to sit next to for many unpleasant hours, looked over and, I suppose in an attempt to flirt, said, "So, that's Germany?", indicating the entirety of the image. I had to struggle as hard as I could not to fly into a rage, sreaming "No! That's Europe!", and then proceeding to give the moron a very rude introductory geography lessen.

Quite frankly, it's miraculous my head hasn't exploded yet.

Liberty's Edge

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
i feel better now...

Scarab Sages

Haven't done a good rant in a while...

School starts for my 5 year old (1st grade). We were given a list of items my child is supposed to have upon starting class. The specific nature of the list is bordering on the ludicrous.

One 200 count box of tissues. How about 240? How about 2 boxes of 100 count? Does it really matter? Are parents really that dumb? I guess that I am just glad that they didn't have "One 200 count of Puffs tissues."

12 glue sticks. Do they really need 12 glue sticks right now? What happens when the last 6 dry out before the child has a chance to use them? It makes more sense to me to just let us know that the teacher will send home a note saying that your child needs a few more. Also these all (apparently) needed name tags attached to them.

Two boxes of Common Colors Crayola markers. These also needed name tags. The problem with this is that it is "Common Colors Crayola". Every school in the state has asked for the exact same things. So why do the department stores even try and stock on other brands or other color schemes? Every store within a 1,000 mile radius is out of Crayola Common Color markers. They don't ask for Guchi Scissors. Why do they care what brand the markers/crayons/paints are? Do they really think that my five year old has enough of an ego to truly care that his Blue isn't quite as blue as the next kid's? Although I didn't have my son name tag each individual marker.

Basically everything else is a similar rant -- either there is a name brand attached to it, or a specific size or type or something that makes it so that it just gets silly trying to find exactly what they are asking for. Although there was one other thing...

Two Red Pens. These are, of course, for the teacher. Administrators are truly getting paid too much if the school can not even keep the teachers supplied in red pens. It just kills me that I have to actually provide the teacher with her pens. At least call it a "School Admin Fee" or something similar, charge each child an additional $5 somewhere and buy them your self. Apparently my child was NOT supposed to put his name tag on those pens -- perhaps that is for the best.

Of course I will probably be here next year griping about the same thing...

Liberty's Edge

I'm mortified.
And then the kids always coming around door-to-door to sell candy and whatnot to pay for school stuff.
I don't know what to make of it all.

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

Don't we pay taxes for that stuff?


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

*doik*

I am finally getting around to taking my driver's test (up until now; no license), and was reading the manual when a strange tidbit came to my attention. I quote:

"A school bus may be identified by a 'SCHOOL BUS' sign, the red lights on top, and its unique yellow/orange color."

Close in stupidity were:

"To park, stop the vehicle, shift gears to park, and turn off the vehicle," and "a red light at an intersection means stop."

Our government at work, people. *sarcastic applause*

Years ago when I did my test (I don't drive but I have my license for emergencies) I remember one of the questions was "What do you do when you come up to a yellow light?" I was so tempted to select "C: Accelerate and sound your horn."

Silver Crusade

Heathansson wrote:

I'm mortified.

And then the kids always coming around door-to-door to sell candy and whatnot to pay for school stuff.
I don't know what to make of it all.

I like when they sell candy. I could care less about the kids, but if they catch me at the right time, I'd give them twenty bucks for a box of M&Ms.


In New York City, there are always some inner city youth on the subway, trying to sell you M&Ms for their basketball team. Some are telling the truth, some really just want to buy some new sneakers. My favorite are the kids that say,"I'm not selling for a basketball team, I'm selling candy to put clothes on my back and shoes on my feet and I don't want to sell drugs." Those are the kids that get my money, even if I've been swearing off junk food as best I can.

One of SVA's student t-shirts says,"I ain't selling candy for no basketball team" as a remark about tuition costs, which I thought was pretty funny.

The Exchange

Moff Rimmer wrote:

Haven't done a good rant in a while...

School starts for my 5 year old (1st grade). We were given a list of items my child is supposed to have upon starting class. The specific nature of the list is bordering on the ludicrous.

One 200 count box of tissues. How about 240? How about 2 boxes of 100 count? Does it really matter? Are parents really that dumb? I guess that I am just glad that they didn't have "One 200 count of Puffs tissues."

12 glue sticks. Do they really need 12 glue sticks right now? What happens when the last 6 dry out before the child has a chance to use them? It makes more sense to me to just let us know that the teacher will send home a note saying that your child needs a few more. Also these all (apparently) needed name tags attached to them.

Two boxes of Common Colors Crayola markers. These also needed name tags. The problem with this is that it is "Common Colors Crayola". Every school in the state has asked for the exact same things. So why do the department stores even try and stock on other brands or other color schemes? Every store within a 1,000 mile radius is out of Crayola Common Color markers. They don't ask for Guchi Scissors. Why do they care what brand the markers/crayons/paints are? Do they really think that my five year old has enough of an ego to truly care that his Blue isn't quite as blue as the next kid's? Although I didn't have my son name tag each individual marker.

Basically everything else is a similar rant -- either there is a name brand attached to it, or a specific size or type or something that makes it so that it just gets silly trying to find exactly what they are asking for. Although there was one other thing...

Two Red Pens. These are, of course, for the teacher. Administrators are truly getting paid too much if the school can not even keep the teachers supplied in red pens. It just kills me that I have to actually provide the teacher with her pens. At least call it a "School Admin...

Similar rant here. I enrolled my daughter in a head-start pre-school program. $1500. They tell me I will get a letter on Aug 1st telling me about when/where/how/what. I got it Saturday. The 18th. Come to find out she don't start school in the last week of August, she starts Wednesday.....the 22nd. The letter said "enclosed is a card we want you child to wear during the first 2 weeks of school, it has all her class info on it". No F*&king card..... I have a meet and greet with her teacher on Tuesday night. I paid for this.

Now it is late enough that if I decided to do something else, I won't find available space for my daughter and would have to just skip pre-school.
Why is illegal to beat stupid people to death? I figure it is a public service and would strengthen the gene pool. Stupid people shouldn't have rights, they should live with the fear of knowing that if they F*&k up bad enough, someone is gonna remove them from the race.
I have enough s*^t going on that I don't need morons acting ridiculous around me.
I even called a couple weeks ago and got a "the letters are on the way, they have all the info you need in them" smart-@ssed reply.

Must....control......fist....of ........doommmmm......

FH

Liberty's Edge

Here's my damn rant.

That 4e. mess? I'm tired of thinkin about it. I'm tired of hearin about it. I'm tired of talkin about it. I'm tired of reading about it. I don't give a damn one way or the other. I'm over it.

You can QFT my ass, or you can flame worr me up one side the head and right down the other. I just don't give a damn.


Heathansson wrote:

Here's my damn rant.

That 4e. mess? I'm tired of thinkin about it. I'm tired of hearin about it. I'm tired of talkin about it. I'm tired of reading about it. I don't give a damn one way or the other. I'm over it.

You can QFT my ass, or you can flame worr me up one side the head and right down the other. I just don't give a damn.

Flame! Flame! Flame!!! j/k. ;-P

I am actually close to that point myself. To many Real Life troubles to worry about something that is almost a year away.


I'm to that point as well. So what if there's another edition? WotC can just f@$! themselves up and we can just go on playing our beloved game in our preferred edition, whatever that may be.

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