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You people make me ill! These aren't rants. THIS is a rant:

I take no responsibility for the damage I'm about to inflict on your fragile psyches. Daring to gaze into the yawning abyss of my madness gets you exactly what you deserve.

So, imagine my insides are a cross between a giant Bingo ball rolling machine, except you pour liquid madness into my ears, let it churn in the mighty bingo ball roller of my guts, and out pops lunatic insight, and a giant brain of emptiness; only it isn't void. It's not dark, because there is no dark. No light, no time, no down, no anything. It's a roiling morass of spiderlike nothing, except it can't be spiderlike because it doesn't have form either. The anti-something. It absorbs useless information all day long, until the pressure of it nearly breaks my skull and unleashes a torrent of pure whack-job across the multiverse, at least until some freaktard tries to spew math or some other facts of dubious value at me, starving the nothing back to manageable size.

If grass were paisley and screamed, we would still mow it? Would we mow it faster, to get it over with? Or would we let it grow and avoid it until our neighbors started to give us that, "He's so white trash" look? What if it only cried? I think one good primal moan of agony would be enough to keep people from walking barefoot again.

So anyhow, I was thinking about James, and his lack of a job, and I discovered that I owe him an apology. See, I was browsing his blogs and his artwork (which I really like, especially the catfish), and I thought, wow, how cool would it be to get James a job. Especially if say, I won the lotto. I mean, I could be one of those "patron of the arts" guys, just like those crazy Greeks and their pederasty, except without the creepy man/teen love thing, and the fact he's too old and I'm too young. I would totally pay him to just sit around and think s++& up, and then draw it. But then I thought, woah, no way can I let him become successful, because everything I love would be flushed into the toilet. Without the brooding morose, would the art suffer? If he became happy and well fed, would I still enjoy it? Maybe if I found him a job as an accountant in a cubical he could draw a dilbert-esque thing, except with a second head that spouts profanities. If I had a second head, I think it would be so freaking annoying, because it would like, say nice things to people all the time. Especially people I don't like, like the morons who tell me their entire life story at the cheese counter because I'm too polite to tell them I don't give a flipping crap about their prostate, and I'm sorry no one else pays attention to you but I've got places to be! Ugh, stupid second head. Um..right, James! So anyway, I was thinking that maybe he could draw character portraits for people on here, and accept paypal payments in exchange. That way he could still hone his art, he'd make enough to eat without being really successful, and when I buy up all his art and when they find him in an alley drained of all cerebrospinal fluid one day I am going to make out like a flipping bandit. Which is exactly when I realized that I owed him an apology, because in some small way I'm in cahoots (that's a funny word) with the universe, crushing his dreams with the unrelenting vice of my madness. Sorry 'bout that.

Liberty's Edge

mwbeeler wrote:

You people make me ill! These aren't rants. THIS is a rant:

I take no responsibility for the damage I'm about to inflict on your fragile psyches. Daring to gaze into the yawning abyss of my madness gets you exactly what you deserve.

So, imagine my insides are a cross between a giant Bingo ball rolling machine, except you pour liquid madness into my ears, let it churn in the mighty bingo ball roller of my guts, and out pops lunatic insight, and a giant brain of emptiness; only it isn't void. It's not dark, because there is no dark. No light, no time, no down, no anything. It's a roiling morass of spiderlike nothing, except it can't be spiderlike because it doesn't have form either. The anti-something. It absorbs useless information all day long, until the pressure of it nearly breaks my skull and unleashes a torrent of pure whack-job across the multiverse, at least until some freaktard tries to spew math or some other facts of dubious value at me, starving the nothing back to manageable size.

If grass were paisley and screamed, we would still mow it? Would we mow it faster, to get it over with? Or would we let it grow and avoid it until our neighbors started to give us that, "He's so white trash" look? What if it only cried? I think one good primal moan of agony would be enough to keep people from walking barefoot again.

So anyhow, I was thinking about James, and his lack of a job, and I discovered that I owe him an apology. See, I was browsing his blogs and his artwork (which I really like, especially the catfish), and I thought, wow, how cool would it be to get James a job. Especially if say, I won the lotto. I mean, I could be one of those "patron of the arts" guys, just like those crazy Greeks and their pederasty, except without the creepy man/teen love thing, and the fact he's too old and I'm too young. I would totally pay him to just sit around and think s&!% up, and then draw it. But then I thought, woah, no way can I let him become successful, because everything I love would...

rorg?


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
rorg?

Yes, I think that sums things up nicely! :)


mwbeeler wrote:
So anyhow, I was thinking about James, and his lack of a job, and I discovered that I owe him an apology. See, I was browsing his blogs and his artwork (which I really like, especially the catfish), and I thought, wow, how cool would it be to get James a job. Especially if say, I won the lotto. I mean, I could be one of those "patron of the arts" guys, just like those crazy Greeks and their pederasty, except without the creepy man/teen love thing, and the fact he's too old and I'm too young. I would totally pay him to just sit around and think s~%! up, and then draw it. But then I thought, woah, no way can I let him become successful, because everything I love would...

Thanks?


Dons flame retardant suit

My rant?

Calculus.

Damn you, Isaac Newton!


Saern wrote:

Dons flame retardant suit

My rant?

Calculus.

Damn you, Isaac Newton!

Blasphemer!


"" wrote:
That way he could still hone his art, he'd make enough to eat without being really successful, and when I buy up all his art and when they find him in an alley drained of all cerebrospinal fluid one day I am going to make out like a flipping bandit. Which is exactly when I realized that I owed him an apology, because in some small way I'm in cahoots (that's a funny word) with the universe, crushing his dreams with the unrelenting vice of my madness. Sorry 'bout that.

Are you going to vampirise (copyright YeuxAndI, 2007) James for his brain juice and then make a bunch of money off his art? What are you going to do with the brain juice?

That's cold, man.

Seriously, though. Ben Folds just needs to get the frak out of my internet radio.

Silver Crusade

YeuxAndI wrote:
"" wrote:
That way he could still hone his art, he'd make enough to eat without being really successful, and when I buy up all his art and when they find him in an alley drained of all cerebrospinal fluid one day I am going to make out like a flipping bandit. Which is exactly when I realized that I owed him an apology, because in some small way I'm in cahoots (that's a funny word) with the universe, crushing his dreams with the unrelenting vice of my madness. Sorry 'bout that.

Are you going to vampirise (copyright YeuxAndI, 2007) James for his brain juice and then make a bunch of money off his art? What are you going to do with the brain juice?

That's cold, man.

Seriously, though. Ben Folds just needs to get the frak out of my internet radio.

I have a glass of juice every morning.


Saern wrote:

Dons flame retardant suit

My rant?

Calculus.

Damn you, Isaac Newton!

~grins~ When I took Cal I, I found out that I did really good at it because my electronics classes had drummed all that algebra into my head. My only mistake was trusting my graphing calculator too much on that first test. If you have a firm algebra and trig foundation, Calculus should not be that hard. Try not to over think it.

Liberty's Edge

AAAAH! The Random Sh*te Thread has invaded the Rant thread! My creation has run amok!


YeuxAndI wrote:

What are you going to do with the brain juice?

I'll be cleared on all charges in connection with said fluid. Pure coincidence, I tell you. I could return the rant thread back on track with my thoughts on eating the homeless and investing in necromancy as a replacement sanitation force?


Sharoth wrote:
If you have a firm algebra and trig foundation, Calculus should not be that hard.

Oh, ho ho! Therein lies the problem! I don't. I entered college as an English major and, although I've added an extra major in the sciences to my academic goals, an English major in my mind I remain. I want to sit around and discuss interpretations of Shakespeare and what the true "universal human experience" is; hell, even diagramming sentences would be preferable! I have no love for mathematics. I can manipulate variables and formulae just fine, but have no passion in the subject and, in these higher level courses, no day-to-day use for them. As such, I promptly forget that which I have learned in math classes, despite having recieved high grades. I understand the core concepts of every formula, term, and process put forth to me thus far, but having to use the other math skills is really throwing a wrench in the works. Even if I come out with an A++ in Calculus, with sugar and cherries on top, that will not change my feelings towards it.

I repeat: damn you, Isaac Newton! I see through your lies; you claim this is the stuff everyday phenomena is based on. But in truth, it's no more than a sadistic ploy to torture those humanities and liberal arts students who irked you so much!


Saern wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
If you have a firm algebra and trig foundation, Calculus should not be that hard.

Oh, ho ho! Therein lies the problem! I don't. I entered college as an English major and, although I've added an extra major in the sciences to my academic goals, an English major in my mind I remain. I want to sit around and discuss interpretations of Shakespeare and what the true "universal human experience" is; hell, even diagramming sentences would be preferable! I have no love for mathematics. I can manipulate variables and formulae just fine, but have no passion in the subject and, in these higher level courses, no day-to-day use for them. As such, I promptly forget that which I have learned in math classes, despite having recieved high grades. I understand the core concepts of every formula, term, and process put forth to me thus far, but having to use the other math skills is really throwing a wrench in the works. Even if I come out with an A++ in Calculus, with sugar and cherries on top, that will not change my feelings towards it.

I repeat: damn you, Isaac Newton! I see through your lies; you claim this is the stuff everyday phenomena is based on. But in truth, it's no more than a sadistic ploy to torture those humanities and liberal arts students who irked you so much!

Right there with you buddy. I hate math in all its various forms (save perhaps additions to my bank account), although I can tutor it like the dickens, and my former roommate and best man is a math teacher. Funny that.

Liberty's Edge

Freehold DM wrote:


Right there with you buddy. I hate math in all its various forms (save perhaps additions to my bank account)...

Amen, bro, amen.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:


Right there with you buddy. I hate math in all its various forms (save perhaps additions to my bank account)...
Amen, bro, amen.

Wait! Dammit, my friend just pointed out one can add negative numbers to a bank account! I take that last part back!


GRAH! More rantiness! I have very little free time with my school schedule now, but I don't really mind; I like all my classes save the aforementioned calculus. However, I would like some ability to regularly come back to Paizo and maybe, just maybe, actually play WoW or something in the few hours I get without other obligations.

BUT NOOOOO!!!!!!!

My damned internet keeps breaking down! Three times in one month that the internet has been down so long I had to call the damned phone company to come repair the line. WTF? I get the sneaking suspicion that it's because they're messing with their network for the new DSL option they're putting in, but not for me! I friggen hate dial-up, but guess what? We're out of range for 90% of all other forms of internet. Every time someone's offering high speed internet, we're out of reach! County is updating its internet access; Woops, we're 3 miles away from the terminal, and you have to be within 2. Phone company is offering DSL; Woops, you're out of range of that, too. Direct TV is offering internet over the dish; Woops, that large tree which just happens to be on the unfriendly neighbor's property is blocking the angle.

Did I piss someone off or something? Is there some cosmic mandate out that my house can't get anything but the most meager internet connections? GRAH! SAERN SMASH! SAERN SMASH!!!!


mwbeeler wrote:
YeuxAndI wrote:

What are you going to do with the brain juice?

I'll be cleared on all charges in connection with said fluid. Pure coincidence, I tell you. I could return the rant thread back on track with my thoughts on eating the homeless and investing in necromancy as a replacement sanitation force?

That's what you think: whenever I'm threatened I squirt blood out of my eyes, much like a horned toad or similar desert lizard. Everyone will know. And if I miss you with that, the ink packet in my brain will be a dead giveaway that you stole my brain and replaced it with an IOU.

I'm thinkin' with an IOU over here...

The Exchange

James Keegan wrote:

That's what you think: whenever I'm threatened I squirt blood out of my eyes, much like a horned toad or similar desert lizard. Everyone will know. And if I miss you with that, the ink packet in my brain will be a dead giveaway that you stole my brain and replaced it with an IOU.

I'm thinkin' with an IOU over here...

I'm gonna need to see a drawing with a dude, IOU for a brain, squirting juices from his eyes. I've seen your work and love it, and this is right down that alley....post picture when you are finished.

FH(Keepin' the artist busy)

Liberty's Edge

James Keegan wrote:


That's what you think: whenever I'm threatened I squirt blood out of my eyes, much like a horned toad or similar desert lizard.

Ohhh, you think it's a joke, but have you ever actually shot blood from your eyes? No? WELL I HAVE! HA! HA!*

*I'm serious. Not fun.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
James Keegan wrote:


That's what you think: whenever I'm threatened I squirt blood out of my eyes, much like a horned toad or similar desert lizard.

Ohhh, you think it's a joke, but have you ever actually shot blood from your eyes? No? WELL I HAVE! HA! HA!*

*I'm serious. Not fun.

When I was little (about eight) we were throwing stones at each other in the playground and this huge chunk of sandstone smashed me in the left eye nearly knocking me out. I was taken to the school nurse and she completely freaked out when I started crying blood out of the other eye! Weird! I got to go home, which was good.


Saern wrote:

GRAH! More rantiness! I have very little free time with my school schedule now, but I don't really mind; I like all my classes save the aforementioned calculus. However, I would like some ability to regularly come back to Paizo and maybe, just maybe, actually play WoW or something in the few hours I get without other obligations.

BUT NOOOOO!!!!!!!

My damned internet keeps breaking down! Three times in one month that the internet has been down so long I had to call the damned phone company to come repair the line. WTF? I get the sneaking suspicion that it's because they're messing with their network for the new DSL option they're putting in, but not for me! I friggen hate dial-up, but guess what? We're out of range for 90% of all other forms of internet. Every time someone's offering high speed internet, we're out of reach! County is updating its internet access; Woops, we're 3 miles away from the terminal, and you have to be within 2. Phone company is offering DSL; Woops, you're out of range of that, too. Direct TV is offering internet over the dish; Woops, that large tree which just happens to be on the unfriendly neighbor's property is blocking the angle.

Did I piss someone off or something? Is there some cosmic mandate out that my house can't get anything but the most meager internet connections? GRAH! SAERN SMASH! SAERN SMASH!!!!

I think I really did piss some god or other power off; within an hour of posting this, my phone, and thus my internet connection went dead for another day.


Saern wrote:
Saern wrote:

GRAH! More rantiness! I have very little free time with my school schedule now, but I don't really mind; I like all my classes save the aforementioned calculus. However, I would like some ability to regularly come back to Paizo and maybe, just maybe, actually play WoW or something in the few hours I get without other obligations.

BUT NOOOOO!!!!!!!

My damned internet keeps breaking down! Three times in one month that the internet has been down so long I had to call the damned phone company to come repair the line. WTF? I get the sneaking suspicion that it's because they're messing with their network for the new DSL option they're putting in, but not for me! I friggen hate dial-up, but guess what? We're out of range for 90% of all other forms of internet. Every time someone's offering high speed internet, we're out of reach! County is updating its internet access; Woops, we're 3 miles away from the terminal, and you have to be within 2. Phone company is offering DSL; Woops, you're out of range of that, too. Direct TV is offering internet over the dish; Woops, that large tree which just happens to be on the unfriendly neighbor's property is blocking the angle.

Did I piss someone off or something? Is there some cosmic mandate out that my house can't get anything but the most meager internet connections? GRAH! SAERN SMASH! SAERN SMASH!!!!

I think I really did piss some god or other power off; within an hour of posting this, my phone, and thus my internet connection went dead for another day.

Your internet connection knows you're talking about it. My advice? You need to get an intervention. Gather the lamp, the computer and as many other appliances as you can (reliable ones, of course) and wait until your phone connection comes home from work. Sit it down, let all the other appliances remind it of the damage it's causing and how they've always come to rely on it in the past. Stress that this is an opportunity for growth and that your phone line doesn't have to walk that road alone; the other appliances are there to support it. If it starts giving you lip, let it know what an inconvenience it's been and remind it that maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday, you may have the opportunity for a better connection. And how will it feel then?

That's how I got my toaster to stop drinking.

The Exchange

R-type wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
James Keegan wrote:


That's what you think: whenever I'm threatened I squirt blood out of my eyes, much like a horned toad or similar desert lizard.

Ohhh, you think it's a joke, but have you ever actually shot blood from your eyes? No? WELL I HAVE! HA! HA!*

*I'm serious. Not fun.

When I was little (about eight) we were throwing stones at each other in the playground and this huge chunk of sandstone smashed me in the left eye nearly knocking me out. I was taken to the school nurse and she completely freaked out when I started crying blood out of the other eye! Weird! I got to go home, which was good.

Mine's bigger.

I had a cut coming down my forehead, almost to my inner tear-duct which made a 90 degree turn and sliced across my entire eyelid. Car accident. 98 stitches. My eye was hanging out of my eyesocket. I had teeny pieces of glass that weren't able to be gotten out of the skin keep coming out of my forehead as small zits for 2 years. I would go to itch a zit and cut my hand on glass coming out of my head. I have a "dead nerve" spot on my forehead that I can put a thumbtack into and not feel it. I still have my eye, it works fine and I have a nasty frickin' scar. My family said they could see my skull and into my eye socket before I got into surgery.
FH

Silver Crusade

James Keegan wrote:
That's how I got my toaster to stop drinking.

That question is, what did you do to make it start?

Liberty's Edge

Jeezus...

Mine's pretty mundane: I've always gotten horrible sinus infections, and if they go too far, my eyes and nose ooze blood.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Celestial Healer wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
That's how I got my toaster to stop drinking.
That question is, what did you do to make it start?

The real question is what kinda freaky toast were you getting that made you make it stop. Side question: What do toasters like to drink? I'd like to get it right next time one stops by for a social occasion.

Liberty's Edge

Daigle wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
That's how I got my toaster to stop drinking.
That question is, what did you do to make it start?
The real question is what kinda freaky toast were you getting that made you make it stop. Side question: What do toasters like to drink? I'd like to get it right next time one stops by for a social occasion.

Irish toast? (That's bread fried in Guiness.)


SON OF A B!~%@!!

I sent out a resume yesterday to an archival frame company in the hopes of getting an assistant position. Cover letter, resume, everything. And they actually called me! They actually wanted an interview! But they didn't put down where they were located in the ad. So I agreed readily to an interview, until they told me where they were located in Long Island City. I'm sure Long Island City is no bad place to be, but for me to commute for the initial month or two from Connecticut to Grand Central is an hour and a half on its own, yielding three hours a day on the train, and likely about forty-five minutes on top of that for the subway to Brooklyn and then however long, finally, to Long Island City.

So I had to turn it down. And now I think maybe I shouldn't have. Ah, damn it.


I hate hoarders. They cause themselves stress and then stress others when they’re too incompetent to find the **** they’re after because they’ve hoarded so much crap. WORLD WAR TWO IS OVER!!! STOP ******* KEEPING THINGS BECAUSE “THEY MIGHT COME IN HANDY”. ‘Cos they just don’t. It’s a ******* selfish attitude as well because it means that when they ******* die, someone else will have to deal with all the **** they left behind. And if it’s hoarded paper, it’s ******* worse, because there might be important documents in it.
Hoarders can all go to hell- but hopefully they’ll all have long-lasting terminal illnesses so they can face up to their ******* lack of irresponsibility and throw out their **** before they die.
And the hoarder attitude usually goes with an incompetent attitude to other financial stuff as well. Aaaargh.


ericthecleric wrote:

I hate hoarders. They cause themselves stress and then stress others when they’re too incompetent to find the **** they’re after because they’ve hoarded so much crap. WORLD WAR TWO IS OVER!!! STOP ******* KEEPING THINGS BECAUSE “THEY MIGHT COME IN HANDY”. ‘Cos they just don’t. It’s a ******* selfish attitude as well because it means that when they ******* die, someone else will have to deal with all the **** they left behind. And if it’s hoarded paper, it’s ******* worse, because there might be important documents in it.

Hoarders can all go to hell- but hopefully they’ll all have long-lasting terminal illnesses so they can face up to their ******* lack of irresponsibility and throw out their **** before they die.
And the hoarder attitude usually goes with an incompetent attitude to other financial stuff as well. Aaaargh.

It's usually a sign of a great lack of confidence. Sometimes due to a trauma (the loss of an authority figure, like a spouse, a parent or an older sibling) that happened earlier in their lives. It's sad really.

Ultradan


Thanks, Dan.
Interesting insight. I don’t know of any traumatic incidents (my grandparents were decent people, not dicks), but here’s how messed up my father and his sister are: my grandfather died over 9 years ago. They’ve only probated the will few months ago . It’s pathetic. And my dad took more stuff from his house to add to his own crap.

And maybe the following should more properly be placed in the “Stuff…That Sucks”. Earlier this year, one of my grandmother’s cousins died. The estate was worth the equivalent of several million dollars, which nobody knew, as she chose not to get involved much in family stuff. The vast majority of it was left to a charity restoring old buildings. An admirable cause, but… the average UK house price is roughly $400,000 in US dollars. There are six descendants (including myself) of that person who are of my generation, only one of which owns a house. Those funds would have come in handy. (Sigh)

(No doubt some readers will be thinking I’m a greedy SOB. Not true. I do think it’s better to be practical, so that future and/or current generations can also benefit. Charity begins at home!)

Liberty's Edge

Well, here I am living in South Korea, and I love it! There's a lot going on here in the Land of the Morning Calm, and one of the greatest bits of modern Korea has got to be cinema! Koreans make some damn good movies! AND I CAN'T WATCH A SINGLE ONE OF THEM IN MY APARTMENT!
OK, that's not true, because I bought a Samsung DVD player at a local department store today, but I bought it because none of the DVDs for sale in Korea will play on my US-purchased DVD player. Now, why is that? Well, it's a long and complicated bit of Hollywood industry initiative to ensure the Studios get their fair shake of movie and DVD proceeds, chiefly that MGM, for example, gets paid when the movie is released in US theaters, again when you rent the movie six months later, and a third time when you decide you really like Goldeneye and buy the DVD. Region coding allows the studios to release a film on DVD to US buyers shortly after the theatrical release and before the overseas release. The argument is that if a dvd is not protected in this way, then there's nothing to stop British consumers from simply buying the dvd when it's released in the US--which means they're a lot less likely to go see the movie when it releases in a London theater, resulting in a loss of revenue.
OK. I can believe that, and I sure don't want to wait for a movie to make the international rounds before I can watch the dvd, especially with my job (military) I frequently miss most movies while they're in theater. So...why am I mad? There's a ton of great foreign films (foreign to me, since I'm American) I really REALLY want to watch, that will probably never get released in the US! Not to mention, the number of great DVDs (Korean, for example) that are chocked full of features not available on the US release, or that are completely different films when viewed beside the mess edited together for a US audience.
I shouldn't have to hack my computer (my only quibble with a Mac is the virtual impossibility of altering its functions, though this is the only time I've ever wanted to...) and I shouldn't have to own five different DVD players and three 110-240v transformers to watch legally-purchased DVDs.
Anyone else ticked off at this?
Well, there. I feel marginally better having ranted.
Thanks for letting me vent. :-)


Region coding on DVDs is right up there with visa offices and drunk drivers. Get yourself a second drive and just use it for region three.
Oh, mac right. Um. Never mind. As you were.

Rant of the day- Robert Jordan dies and his fans in some cases are outraged that he died before finishing book twelve of Wheel of Time.

Sub rant. Sony and its craven DRM fiasco.


Wow; did I step on some pinheads; whew; I am still wiping the sophmoric comments off of me; sheesh, ack, yuck *&%#@#%^^####; went to the Sandpoint was amazing thread all curious and just wanted to know why peeps over there thought it was amazing; ack; didnt get any answers; just flames; wow; heeh throwing fire at an efreeti; that is nuts; was a bit offended at first; bun then reviewed the guys posting; mostly newbies and such who havent been around a while, some as under 100, most under 400 posts and most of those are very recent; heck most dont even have profiles. Guess they dont really know the community. Really bugs me that we have some new guys that just want to start a flame war and attack me as a person rather than give anything worthwhile; heck I have had some discussions with peeps like Sebastion; while we often dont agree; his comments are very astute and I respect him a whole bunch. That icky thread over there should come with a spoiler warning or something; yuck, needs a "WARNING, FANBOY ALERT" tag or something. Guess I should have gotten a clue that none of the other so called Lords of the Board had posted there. My Bad.

Well, thanks again Sarn for wisdom of this thread to get stuff off your chest, can once again go zipping about looking for a interesting discussion.

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I must confess, I though Sandpoint was fairly average. Good adventure, but the place itself fairly bog-standard. Nothing wrong with that, and I can understand that for their first outing with a new product they didn't want to do anything too wild. But it didn't really rock my boat either. It's OK, but nothing special.

Kaer Maga, from Seven Swords of Sin, on the other hand, sounds like it rocks big time. Massive potential, but only getting about a page of tantalising hints.


Valegrim wrote:

Wow; did I step on some pinheads; whew; I am still wiping the sophmoric comments off of me; sheesh, ack, yuck *&%#@#%^^####; went to the Sandpoint was amazing thread all curious and just wanted to know why peeps over there thought it was amazing; ack; didnt get any answers; just flames; wow; heeh throwing fire at an efreeti; that is nuts; was a bit offended at first; bun then reviewed the guys posting; mostly newbies and such who havent been around a while, some as under 100, most under 400 posts and most of those are very recent; heck most dont even have profiles. Guess they dont really know the community. Really bugs me that we have some new guys that just want to start a flame war and attack me as a person rather than give anything worthwhile; heck I have had some discussions with peeps like Sebastion; while we often dont agree; his comments are very astute and I respect him a whole bunch. That icky thread over there should come with a spoiler warning or something; yuck, needs a "WARNING, FANBOY ALERT" tag or something. Guess I should have gotten a clue that none of the other so called Lords of the Board had posted there. My Bad.

Well, thanks again Sarn for wisdom of this thread to get stuff off your chest, can once again go zipping about looking for a interesting discussion.

Fella, I really don't see where you're getting that until the last few exchanges with Azzy over there.

After your first post in the thread, you had two people make jokes about the thread/subject (not about you) and one poster actively agree with your opinion. Granted, no one actually immediately volunteers why they think Sandpoint is amazing until poster DarkArt puts a response after another comment about another point

DarkArt wrote:

I think part of why Sandpoint is amazing is what I mentioned in my first post on page one. I enjoyed the dynamic of a simple town, uncrowded by PC classes, but yet had an element of the cosmopolitan and aura of openness. The mirror at the gate was a nice symbol of that. I don't think every town should be stuffed to the brim with shiny adventure hooks and epic villains. In essence it's a town that's got some fat cut out of it although it's still far enough away from being a one-trick-pony kind of backwater town. I find that refreshing.

I'd also think that if you wanted to tweak it, go ahead. If the setting isn't your cup of tea, then do something else.

So you got an answer, then a few more folks talk about the fun goblin encounter they like and then you posted again, with some unmerited (in my opinion) aggression. Note that no one has called you on the "starved for imagination" remark in your first comment, which was the only thing even remotely less than polite you had said. Then, you come out with this-

Valegrim wrote:
hmm; look you guys; there are 10 basic logical errors and you are making them and making yourselves look like neophytes with little to say of value; just answer the question and stop attacking me as an individual; why do you think Sandpoint is so amazing; in my opinion it is rather bland; back up your claim that it is amazing with some thought and creativity and perhaps some facts.

How did you come to this conclusion when the only responses you had gotten were 1. good-natured jokes 2. statements of agreement 3. a short, well-thought out response to your original point and 4. borderline non-sequitur statements about the goblin in the closet in the adventure?

Even after your second post, it only gets heated when Azzy responds and then you come in with your third post. Demiurge 1138 only makes a comment that maybe you were being a bit rude, but then answers your original query. You started off on a bad foot with the "starved for a little imagination" comment, and then got worse. Here's your third post:

Valegrim wrote:
ok; obviously you guys have nothing to say and nothing to back up the so called amazing comment and I dont feel like going back through your comments and teaching you the difference. Sandpoint is not amazing; it only takes an amazing gm to bring a world to life regardless of the setting. I wont be checking this thread again so dont bother reply to my comment; continue with your fanboy club; had hoped someone would tell why they thought Sandpoint was amazing, but that is obviously to much for you guys at this time.

Responding that people are "pinheads" and "fanboys" after you're doing most of the trolling isn't a good way to make new friends, even if you've been on the boards longer than most of the folks in the discussion.

You had two people telling you why they felt the 'amazing' comment was merited. Not an overwhelming response, but a response, both of which backed up with personal opinion their own points. Nothing really all that rude. But you didn't respond to them at all, or even read what they had to say. The belittling comments in your own responses toward people that, you assumed, disagreed with you to begin with doesn't give anyone too much inclination to give you a well thought out response, but you still got two. And you ignored them. So what the heck, man?


lol, discussion on a rant thread. Told you I wasnt going to go into it; I can of course point out why I said what I said; I just dont see the point; wanna call me a troll; fine; go ahead, or you could just go back through the last 2600+ of my posts over the years and see it is just not true. Did my rant; you havent changed my mind; am done with it unless for some reason you really want to go through it, but I doubt you do. We obviously have a difference of opinion on what is good natured fun, I obviously think it is rude and sophmoric.

Liberty's Edge

Shiver me timbers!


I have less than 400 posts. Does that make my opinion invalid?

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

CourtFool wrote:
I have less than 400 posts. Does that make my opinion invalid?

Did someone say something? ;)

Spoiler:
In case the winky little smiley guy wasn't clear....I'm totally joking and using your valid statement as a vehicle for bad humor.


(giggle)


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

I must confess, I though Sandpoint was fairly average. Good adventure, but the place itself fairly bog-standard. Nothing wrong with that, and I can understand that for their first outing with a new product they didn't want to do anything too wild. But it didn't really rock my boat either. It's OK, but nothing special.

Kaer Maga, from Seven Swords of Sin, on the other hand, sounds like it rocks big time. Massive potential, but only getting about a page of tantalising hints.

Kaer Maga is deffinitely interesting. I would have loved even just two more pages of info on the place. Seven Swords of Sin isn't quite my favorite kind of adventure (I find myself wondering how they got that squid in there), but what story backs it is good and the module as written can certainly be altered without too much work to be slightly less... I suppose Gygaxian is the word.

However, Kaer Maga is fascinating in that it's almost as bizarre as the dungeon beneath it (well, the one in SSoS, anyway), yet with so little real detail. A wonderful slate to start working from.

....

Oh, sorry, rant thread! Uhm... math is teh stupid!!1!!11!11!!!!!1110101101001110111 (woops, went into binary).

Scarab Sages

Some people do not deserve to even be allowed to use computers at work!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!!

"Where's my file"
"Here it is"
"That's not what I saved"
"You must have saved over it"
"No I didn't"
"You are the only person that has access to it."
"Well I didn't do it."
"Did you do anything with the file today?"
"No"
"But you told me that you opened it up."
"Well, yeah I did that"
"You must have done something to it at that time"
"No I didn't"
"What do you think happened to your file?"
"I don't know but I didn't do anything to it. Somebody else must have done something to it."
"But nobody else can touch it."
"Well, I didn't do it."
"Whatever"
"Well, what are you going to do about it."
"The same thing that you did to your file -- nothing"


Of course not, but when I read dubious posts I look at the poster and go back and read a lot of things they have written to discover such things as typical style, tone, word hoard, chosen subjects person responded to, ect. I look at the whole body of work. If a person only has a few short blurbs that dont really say anything; well there you go. I also look at who often the person posts and how long they have been posting; this gives me an idea, though not necessarily a correct one as a person could have lurked for years, of how well the person knows the community.

Take your posts for instance; in a general view you seem to like to play the antogonist and have an aggressive writing style, many of your posts are one liners and tend to use inflamatory words like ignorant and hypocrate more than I am comfortable with but you dont seem to serious about it and seem have a willingness to take your lumps when deserved. You have filled out your profile, which is always cool and probably indicates your going to be around a while. This only means that I would be cautious when responding to your posts as you seem to have thin skin and look for reasons to bite. May or may not be accurate, but this is what it looks like to me at the moment and I will revise as your body of work develops; dont worry; I do this for everybody hehe and I could compare and contrast your work to various other posters and I doubt this is a surprise to anyone who has read many of my last couple thousand posts.

Sorry all about the off topic; as that was certainly anti-rant.

uhm, ARGH! People who dont read the directions drive me nuts! ARGH! Working on Sunday Bites! Working on Sunday with people at work who dont read the directions and waste two of my hours trying to figure out why something doesnt work just to find out nothing is wrong and they just had their head in the clouds really Bites!

CourtFool wrote:
I have less than 400 posts. Does that make my opinion invalid?


Valegrim wrote:
Working on Sunday Bites!

Sorry about your plight Valegrim...but i'll see your work schedule and raise you another weekend day working!

Working on Saturdays & Sundays Bites!!! Heck working 10 hour days six days a week REALLY Bites! And being forced to Fast sucks even more! (Kyr would know what i'm talking about).

P.S. What's my "Style" like? =p

Stay safe all.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Ragnarock Raider wrote:


P.S. What's my "Style" like? =p

I'm curious as well.


lol; you guys are kidding right? I have never seen any questionable posts from either of you so have never reviewed your stuff and did even a cursory analysis. Lol, I had to stop on that one before I started with gramatical analysis of which of 10 most used sentence structures the person uses or any of the many other tools I have to examine such things.

The Exchange

Saern wrote:

Kaer Maga is deffinitely interesting. I would have loved even just two more pages of info on the place. Seven Swords of Sin isn't quite my favorite kind of adventure (I find myself wondering how they got that squid in there), but what story backs it is good and the module as written can certainly be altered without too much work to be slightly less... I suppose Gygaxian is the word.

However, Kaer Maga is fascinating in that it's almost as bizarre as the dungeon beneath it (well, the one in SSoS, anyway), yet with so little real detail. A wonderful slate to start working from.

I concur entirely - the dungeon bit doesn't do a lot for me, though it is a good one (that said, it is pretty clear that the rooms don't have an awful lot to do with one another and are a bit stitched together, but hey, there are still some good, nasty trap ideas in there). While the dungeon doesn't really excite me much, I am excited by all the weird and wonderful factions and semi-insane cults lurking about in Kaer Maga. There is surely a campaign's-worth of ideas lurking on those few pages.

Liberty's Edge

Daigle wrote:
Ragnarock Raider wrote:


P.S. What's my "Style" like? =p
I'm curious as well.

Me, too! Me, too!


I'm mightily sick of the preposterous over-reactions to every little bit of news that pops up about 4E. I swear messageboards make otherwise normal people act like a village hall chock full of scandalized old ladies. So today's rant is a response to this thread. I didn't want to provoke a flame war with all of our new members over there.

D&D is a game that we play for fun. Why does anyone care if they change the cosmology? Keep using the Great Wheel! Why not? No-one's forcing anyone to adapt here. The only people this can really affect are new players who come to D&D for the first time with 4E and so won't know their Elysiums from their Asgards. No-one on this board fits that description. The rest of us have a choice.

So freakin what if the new MM says Demons are stupid rampaging monsters and Devils are deliciously devious masterminds? If you don't dig that then ignore it. You've got the old books. Use the stats and not the fluff. Or make up your own stats. If it says a Balor has INT6 ignore it. Give him INT23 if you like. Whatever.

The only reason I can think of for someone to make a genuine (ie non-hysterical) complaint about this is if you are a stickler for tradition and you are upset that something that has been in existence for 30 years is changing.* I can see that. But if that's your reason, then again, JUST IGNORE THEIR NEW FLUFF. Hey, you'll be saving money.

Honestly people, get a grip.

*NB Obviously this does not apply if you happen to be one of the tiny minority who actually wrote the old fluff, as some of the people on this board are. In that case complain all you like. Knock yourself out. You earned it.

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