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Liberty's Edge

You can phase music out when you have to.
Driving and holding a cell phone conversation both require concentration checks.


You anywhere near Delaware? That temp was exactly what we had yesterday. Just wondering.

FH

Pretty, close. Just north of you in the beautiful Garden (of corruption) State.

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Heathansson wrote:

You can phase music out when you have to.

Driving and holding a cell phone conversation both require concentration checks.

*shrug* If you can't say "hold on" during a conversation to indicate that the road needs attention, I'd find a less demanding conversational partner.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

You can phase music out when you have to.

Driving and holding a cell phone conversation both require concentration checks.
*shrug* If you can't say "hold on" during a conversation to indicate that the road needs attention, I'd find a less demanding conversational partner.

The road ALWAYS needs attention. I've had to singlehandedly, through my own luck and more-than-negligable reaction skills, avoid too many accidents with people who were doing something stupid while talking on a cell phone. Half the time, they don't even realize what just happened.

That's all good; I can just see the court case.
"and when you did blablabla, were you...talking on the cell phone?"
"Yes."
"no further questions."
In Germany, on the Autobahn, they don't even drink a beverage whilst driving. They drive.

The Exchange

Bill Lumberg wrote:

You anywhere near Delaware? That temp was exactly what we had yesterday. Just wondering.

FH

Pretty, close. Just north of you in the beautiful Garden (of corruption) State.

South Jersey, I used to live near Glassboro growing up.

Jersey Rant....I had to move because they had the highest property tax and second highest auto insurance rates in America (or vice-versa), and getting charged $100 a year PER POINT for 3 years as an insurance surcharge is assinine! I had 8 points on my license when I was 18-19 living in Jersey and between liability insurance of $1800+ dollars and $800 in surcharges a year on $900 car it was ridiculous (this was back in 1989!).
Jersey Sucks! You should move ASAP!

FH

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Driving and talking really don't mix.

Are you allowed to drive and talk in the states without a carkit?

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Heathansson wrote:


The road ALWAYS needs attention. I've had to singlehandedly, through my own luck and more-than-negligable reaction skills, avoid too many accidents with people who were doing something stupid while talking on a cell phone. Half the time, they don't even realize what just happened.
That's all good; I can just see the court case.
"and when you did blablabla, were you...talking on the cell phone?"
"Yes."
"no further questions."
In Germany, on the Autobahn, they don't even drink a beverage whilst driving. They drive.

It could be worse. I could be checking the paizo boards, text messaging, shaving, or emailing. Those things scare me. Talking on the phone, not so much.

Liberty's Edge

You can shave widda Blackberry? Dang, I need one!


Fake Healer wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:

You anywhere near Delaware? That temp was exactly what we had yesterday. Just wondering.

FH

Pretty, close. Just north of you in the beautiful Garden (of corruption) State.

South Jersey, I used to live near Glassboro growing up.

Jersey Rant....I had to move because they had the highest property tax and second highest auto insurance rates in America (or vice-versa), and getting charged $100 a year PER POINT for 3 years as an insurance surcharge is assinine! I had 8 points on my license when I was 18-19 living in Jersey and between liability insurance of $1800+ dollars and $800 in surcharges a year on $900 car it was ridiculous (this was back in 1989!).
Jersey Sucks! You should move ASAP!

FH

I will not be here when I retire due to the gouging you cited. My wife and I have even considered moving in the not to distant future. It's a good place to make money in, though. But when it is time to retire it is advantageous to take your pention to a state with a lower cost of living. (And milder winters)

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Heathansson wrote:
You can shave widda Blackberry? Dang, I need one!

Oh yeah, the new swiss army...hold on...

...

...

Oh no! Ahhhhhh!!!!

:user has lost connection to network:

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Darkjoy wrote:

Driving and talking really don't mix.

Are you allowed to drive and talk in the states without a carkit?

What the hell is a carkit?

As I am an American and I talk on the cell while driving (fairly rarely, but sometimes)... I would imagine that the fact I don't know what this is illustrates the answer to your question as 'no.'

I'm assuming you mean a hands-free setup of some kind? Those aren't required. At least, not where I live (Arizona).


Fatespinner wrote:
What the hell is a carkit?

Anyone wanna hum the theme to Knight Rider?

"Kitt! I'm out back! They're armed!"
"Coming, Michael."

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The Jade wrote:
Fatespinner wrote:
What the hell is a carkit?

Anyone wanna hum the theme to Knight Rider?

"Kitt! I'm out back! They're armed!"
"Coming, Michael."

They don't make shows like that anymore.

Sovereign Court

Gotta chime in on the whole cell phone thing - I swear, on a holy book of your choice, that if I had NOT talked on a cell phone while driving, I probably would have died in a car wreck. Drive on I-5 between Woodburn and Corvallis twice a day for several months, and you WILL fall asleep. I had all the tricks - books on tape, singin' with the radio, junior mints...there were times when being able to interact with someone was the only thing that could keep me alert enough to swerve out of the way of the semi trucks that kept trying to run me over. Now, will you ever catch me on a cell phone while driving in a city? Nope. (But good like finding me driving in a city...gah...hate 'em).

Grand Lodge

Celestial Healer wrote:
The White Toymaker wrote:
My coworkers have been abrasive, absent, tardy, or incompetent. The number of obnoxious customers has increased exponentially. We have run out of (or are low on) approximately half of the things we need to stay in business on a day to day basis, and apparently we are in default on rent due to an office SNAFU. I've had near-constant migraines for the duration, and my back is tweaked out enough that you could very nearly use my lower back as a cutting board. On a daily basis, I find myself burning every ounce of willpower I have just to walk into the back away from customers and keep working, rather than committing atrocious acts of violence that would make the policemen flustered and stern; I am not, by nature, an angry and violent person. At the end of this month, three out of eight employees will be leaving for a variety of reasons (myself included) with one more to leave about a month later, and I've seen a grand total of one new applicant thus far.

I never realized we worked together!

In all seriousness, I feel your pain. My office fired three of its 12 or so staff members the day after Christmas. To date no replacements have started work here. And because I'm the only one who really knows what I'm doing around here, that leaves me to pick up most of the slack.

I also had stepped down to a lower position to fill one of the vacancies, and then they proceeded to promote someone into my old position and told me I would be in the lower position indefinitely.

Well, they think it's indefinite. I know that, depending on how my interview at another company works out tomorrow, it will be over very soon.

How did the interview go?


Mothman wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

I have just experienced true gamer hell - someone has stolen my D&D books. A sneak thief crept in and stole the hold-all with my books in it while the front door was unlocked. Fortunately, it wasn't too bad - the three core books, two published modules and my dice, but they also got the character sheets (though they are level 1 and created the day before, so I can probably remember the salient details). I didn't have my campaign notes in there (that really would have been a disaster - 18 months of work lost) nor any of the expansion books. But it is nevertheless upsetting, inconvenient and highly annoying. What also galls is that the drug-addled loser who stole it won't know what to do with it and will probably sling the lot in the canal. Hanging is really too good for them.

PS This isn't an appeal for Paizo charity, though it has been offered to others in the past - I am not poor, and the loss was not great and fairly replaceable. I'm just currying sympathy. Thank you.

Oh man, thats really horrible - I feel for you. I once left a backpack full of all my D&D stuff on a train - somehow - and only realised once I had gotten off. Thankfully I managed to jump back on before the doors closed, and my bag was still there under my seat, but still ... I (almost) feel your pain.

Thank the gods you didn't have your campaign notes or any more books in there.

When I was in the 8th grade, I spent a week at Space Academy in Hunstville, Alabama (that's a step up from Space Camp, which I didn't go through; I don't recommend the program, by the way, but that's another rant). One of the few good things that came of that experience was a particular autograph. I had a notebook that got signed by a member of Werner van Braun's (am I spelling that last name right?) original team.

I had it for less than one day. I was at lunch and set it on my tray in the cafeteria, since there was no where else to put it. I forgot to take it off when I put it on the conveyor that took the tray away to be dumped and cleaned. I only realized it five minutes later, far, far too late, as I walked out of the building. :(


Sebastian wrote:
A whole bunch of stuff about cell phones.

I have to agree that many people, particularly in lite traffic situations, can responsibly handle a cell phone, just like people can handle conversation and the radio (both of which, by the way, can be dangerously distracting at times, but no one rants about them).

However, there's nothing quite like the frustration of following someone down a winding country road in Indiana or Kentucky, and they swerve waaay over to the right... to the left... now they're slowing down five, ten miles an hour... oh, passing zone, speed up another fifteen miles an hour! Swerve to the right...

... and you finally pass the bastard and see he's got a damned cell phone up to his ear.

Just for the record, I turn my phone off when I drive. But, then again, no one ever calls me, so I guess it's a bit of a luxury to be able to disconnect, in this modern world. =/

Liberty's Edge

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

I have just experienced true gamer hell - someone has stolen my D&D books. A sneak thief crept in and stole the hold-all with my books in it while the front door was unlocked. Fortunately, it wasn't too bad - the three core books, two published modules and my dice, but they also got the character sheets (though they are level 1 and created the day before, so I can probably remember the salient details). I didn't have my campaign notes in there (that really would have been a disaster - 18 months of work lost) nor any of the expansion books. But it is nevertheless upsetting, inconvenient and highly annoying. What also galls is that the drug-addled loser who stole it won't know what to do with it and will probably sling the lot in the canal. Hanging is really too good for them.

PS This isn't an appeal for Paizo charity, though it has been offered to others in the past - I am not poor, and the loss was not great and fairly replaceable. I'm just currying sympathy. Thank you.

I hate thieves. That sucks.

My good friend had his boodle bag stolen at the airport; he lost nothing much but maybe a Villains and Vigilantes rulebook and...a few characters we'd been playing for years and some adventures and random writing.
Nothing of fiscal value whatsoever. What I hate about them is they don't even have the common freaking decency to leave the unsellable stuff somewhere it could be found and returned easily. Jack holes. I kick them in the head if I could.


This hit a nerve... I also hate thieves.

Given the chance, I would kill (litteraly) to defend a simple stick of gum that happens to be mine... Or die trying. Sounds a little bit crazy, I know... I don't have much, but the little I do have I've worked too damn hard for anyone to simply take it away. I have absolutely no pitty or remorse for someone who steals (specially from me).

Ultradan

Liberty's Edge

Ultradan wrote:

This hit a nerve... I also hate thieves.

Given the chance, I would kill (litteraly) to defend a simple stick of gum that happens to be mine... Or die trying. Sounds a little bit crazy, I know... I don't have much, but the little I do have I've worked too damn hard for anyone to simply take it away. I have absolutely no pitty or remorse for someone who steals (specially from me).

Ultradan

"I am here...to kick ass, and chew bubblegum. And I am all out of bubblegum." ;)

Liberty's Edge

I have to join the chorus of hating when people try to talk on the phone whilst they're driving, particularly when they are actually holding the phone. While I concede that many people probably can manage this task safely, many can't.

My particular hate for this is exasperated by the fact that I have almost been run down on three seperate occasions by people who were talking on the phone whilst driving and apparently failed to see me (and also, incidently, failed to slow down or even look on approach to a pedestrian crossing or whilst making a turn at an intersection). Ok, so only one of those times was particularly close but still - I really don't enjoy almost dying so someone can practise their rudimentary skills at multi tasking.

The time that it was really close - the guy saw me at the last minute, dropped the phone and swerved to avoid me, and then had the audacity to HONK me once he was past - I ended up chasing him down on foot for two blocks and into a casino car park so that I could tell him EXACTLY what I thought of him. Seriously had to restrain myself from finding a heavy object to beat the crap out of his car, since he refused to leave the car to hear me out.

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Carkit => handsfree device

I for one believe that using the phone and driving should not be done, people just can't handle it.

Scarab Sages

As far as the cellphone thing goes, I agree that it is a mixed bag. Some folks can handle it, some can't, and the driving conditions can make a big difference. Those hands free devices certainly do make a big difference. Personally, I don't talk on the phone while driving. I've seen (and almost been hit by) too many asses with one hand on the steering wheel and the other sticking the phone in their ear.

Theives suck to. Anyone who steals sucks ass.

Silver Crusade

Vattnisse wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
The White Toymaker wrote:
My coworkers have been abrasive, absent, tardy, or incompetent. The number of obnoxious customers has increased exponentially. We have run out of (or are low on) approximately half of the things we need to stay in business on a day to day basis, and apparently we are in default on rent due to an office SNAFU. I've had near-constant migraines for the duration, and my back is tweaked out enough that you could very nearly use my lower back as a cutting board. On a daily basis, I find myself burning every ounce of willpower I have just to walk into the back away from customers and keep working, rather than committing atrocious acts of violence that would make the policemen flustered and stern; I am not, by nature, an angry and violent person. At the end of this month, three out of eight employees will be leaving for a variety of reasons (myself included) with one more to leave about a month later, and I've seen a grand total of one new applicant thus far.

I never realized we worked together!

In all seriousness, I feel your pain. My office fired three of its 12 or so staff members the day after Christmas. To date no replacements have started work here. And because I'm the only one who really knows what I'm doing around here, that leaves me to pick up most of the slack.

I also had stepped down to a lower position to fill one of the vacancies, and then they proceeded to promote someone into my old position and told me I would be in the lower position indefinitely.

Well, they think it's indefinite. I know that, depending on how my interview at another company works out tomorrow, it will be over very soon.

How did the interview go?

Very good, I think. Except the guy told me he was going on a ski trip for the rest of the week, so I won't hear until next week.

GAH!!!

Let me tell ya where I think he can put that ski pole... Hire me now!

Silver Crusade

Celestial Healer wrote:
Something obscene about the hiring manager and a ski pole.

Okay, he was actually a nice guy, and I really hope he doesn't read the Paizo forums.

The Exchange

Celestial Healer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Something obscene about the hiring manager and a ski pole.
Okay, he was actually a nice guy, and I really hope he doesn't read the Paizo forums.

And that he isn't the best DM for 100 miles of you.

FH (Nope, no silver linings here! We strip-mined them clean years ago!)


I absolutely HATE two-faced, two-timing, sons-of-*bleeps*. Why do so many people insist on playing freaking mind-games!?! I HATE that people can't just leave things alone and mind their own dam business! I HATE people who pretend to be your friend while rolling as many freakin' d6's as they can hold to stab you in the back, then have the freakin' gall to be "shocked" when you find out and don't want anything to do with them. Then, your "mutual friends" still hanging out with those a-holes, because "he/she didn't do anything to me"... Well, just wait, and don't be so freakin' SURPRISED when they do the same thing to you... YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LIKE!!! Situations like this make me feel like becoming a recluse and hating the whole human race!!!

But then who would I game with... Oh well, guess I just have to deal with it...
At least there's an awesome place like this to rant about stuff, THANKS PAIZO!


Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads...to the dark side!


As much as it bothers me that cell users cant drive and talk very well in most situations. What sebastian refers to as the drive to work actually is more like glorified parking place changing as so. cals. freeways aren't free flowing in the least.

Scarab Sages

Arctaris wrote:
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads...to the dark side!

As the saying goes - "Come to the Dark Side...We've got cookies"

The Exchange

Heathansson wrote:

Where's my violin? 80 degrees..."sob"...

Yeh...I heard in New York you can't drive around blathering on your cell phone.
Question: can you talk on the phone while following what's on the television? No? Why then do so many people think they can drive? and talk on the phone?

It's illegal in the UK to talk on a mobile and drive. I personally think that is right, if only because most of us drive manual cars and would otherwise need three hands to drive, change gear and hold the phone to your ear. Generally, its a distraction at any time.


Arctaris wrote:
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads...to the dark side!

Actually, all this leads to MUNCHKINISME!! lol

Ultradan


Aberzombie wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads...to the dark side!
As the saying goes - "Come to the Dark Side...We've got cookies"

Hmmmm... And NO-ONE messes with the Sith... Interesting...

What kind of cookies? Tell me more...

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Fyraxis wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads...to the dark side!
As the saying goes - "Come to the Dark Side...We've got cookies"

Hmmmm... And NO-ONE messes with the Sith... Interesting...

What kind of cookies? Tell me more...

Will there be punch and pie? You'll get more people if you say there's punch and pie.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Regarding the discussion about using phones in cars, what about these other distracting habits: shaving, putting ties on, applying makeup, smoking (& lighting a cigarette while driving)?

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ericthecleric wrote:
Regarding the discussion about using phones in cars, what about these other distracting habits: shaving, putting ties on, applying makeup, smoking (& lighting a cigarette while driving)?

Reading pornography?

Silver Crusade

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
Regarding the discussion about using phones in cars, what about these other distracting habits: shaving, putting ties on, applying makeup, smoking (& lighting a cigarette while driving)?
Reading pornography?

I read a story a while back about a guy who got into an accident because he was watching porn on his in-dash TV.


Fyraxis wrote:

Hmmmm... And NO-ONE messes with the Sith... Interesting...

What kind of cookies? Tell me more...

Today we have Double Chocolate Caramel Fudge Cookies and White Chocolate Toffee Macadamia. :D

Scarab Sages

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Reading pornography?

"Reading"?

Liberty's Edge

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Reading pornography?
"Reading"?

I only buy it for the articles...


Lilith wrote:
Fyraxis wrote:

Hmmmm... And NO-ONE messes with the Sith... Interesting...

What kind of cookies? Tell me more...
Today we have Double Chocolate Caramel Fudge Cookies and White Chocolate Toffee Macadamia. :D

SOLD! My soul for some cookies and some Dark Powers, sounds like a sweet deal to me...


Fyraxis wrote:
SOLD! My soul for some cookies and some Dark Powers, sounds like a sweet deal to me...

(Homer) Mmmmm... Soul cookies... (add drool sounds here)...

Ultradan

Dark Archive

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Ultradan wrote:
Fyraxis wrote:
SOLD! My soul for some cookies and some Dark Powers, sounds like a sweet deal to me...

(Homer) Mmmmm... Soul cookies... (add drool sounds here)...

Ultradan

Can you get those cookies from the Girl Scouts?


No, just ghoul scouts.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Saern wrote:
No, just ghoul scouts.

Are they made with real ghouls?


Yes, grown by Norwegian (sp?) farmers, so that you know they're (im)pure, mostly! Heavens they're tasty and expiditious. (cue the band)


Soul cookies are okay. But I definitely prefer Far Realms Baklava. The maple syrup isn't the only thing that's sticky.

Dark Archive RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

Hats off to Saern for creating the most successful thread these boards have EVER seen.

As we near 2400 posts, I think it is amusing that the most successful thread is the one where people come to complain about stuff. Bravo!


I hate rant threads...

Ultradan


Yay me! :P

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