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Scarab Sages

Arctaris wrote:
Ok, there seems to be some misunderstanding. I didn't mean to imply or directly say that any religion sucked. I merely said that I didn't agree with any religion and stated several complaints about how certain vocal groups do things that make me extremley angry. I have no personal quarrels with people who beleive differently from myself and I have some freinds who I like a great deal who beleive differently than I do.

No. What you did is make an assumption or at least implied that if there are weird vocal people who claim to be part of a group of others, then all people in that group must be the same. You implied that all "conservative Christians" feel that anyone who plays D&D are going to Hell -- and that simply is not true.

If you have complaints about individuals, fine. But don't assume that everyone in any given group is exactly the same.


Okay, I apologize if I offended anyone, that was not my intention. I was indeed judging all conservative Christians by what experience I have had with them which, while not an extreme amount is considerable. By parables I meant the less historical parts of the Bible (which can be used as a historical refernce) such as it raining fire or God killing every firstborn in Egypt or turning someone into a pillar of salt or God creating Eve from one of Adam's ribs.

For everyone who was complaining about the snow I live in Southern Colorado so I feel your pain.
Now for a new rant. I hate retarded animated movies like Cars or Shark Tales or Monster House (which isn't completley an animated movie). I hate them even more when the animation isn't even good like Open Season. I also hate it when the movie industry takes a wonderful book that I love and turn it into a crappy movie (I'm talking about Eragon). Curse you Fox! The only exception I have seen of the movie industry making a good movie out of a book is Lord of the Rings. Peter David Rocks!


A movie rant heh?... What I hate (and cannot understand), is when they're making crappy movies like the Dungeons and Dragons movie, doesn't anybody realize (writters, directors, actors) that they're making a dud. Doesn't anyone on the set say "Ah, isn't this cheesy?"... What's wrong with these people? Who authorizes these scripts? I thought they were in money making buisness.

Ultradan


Sebastian wrote:


I hear that the pope is going to canonize that movie at Vatican III. I guess the question will be settled once and for all then...

That will only be one of several exciting events at this year's "VatiCON".

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Bill Lumberg wrote:
That will only be one of several exciting events at this year's "VatiCON".

If they seriously tried to hold a gaming convention in the Vatican, I might be tempted to sell my car just to have enough money to go. That would be AWESOME!

Liberty's Edge

Arctaris wrote:
The only exception I have seen of the movie industry making a good movie out of a book is Lord of the Rings. Peter David Rocks!

Who's Peter David?

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Mothman wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
The only exception I have seen of the movie industry making a good movie out of a book is Lord of the Rings. Peter David Rocks!
Who's Peter David?

Isn't that the dad on Family Guy?


Ultradan wrote:

A movie rant heh?... What I hate (and cannot understand), is when they're making crappy movies like the Dungeons and Dragons movie, doesn't anybody realize (writters, directors, actors) that they're making a dud. Doesn't anyone on the set say "Ah, isn't this cheesy?"... What's wrong with these people? Who authorizes these scripts? I thought they were in money making buisness.

Ultradan

I was reading the biography of Robert Crumb, the 60s counter-culture comic writer, and he said he and his friend wrote a script and gave it to another one of their friends who was a movie producer, who promised to look at it. Two weeks later they rang him back to ask what he thought. The conversation went something like this:

Crumb: So... what do you think?
Producer: (cheerfully) I don't know.
Crumb: What do you mean you... don't know?
Producer: I can't tell if it's good or bad just from reading the script. No-one in Hollywood can do that. Who knows what will succeed and what won't?

That was in the early 70s, and the guy had a four foot pile of unread scripts in his garage, none of which he could differentiate from any other in terms of quality. Imagine what it's like today. That horrifies me, and also neatly explains why so many bad movies get the green light when it seems totally baffling: Besides hackneyed ideas, the producers honestly don't know what will succeed and what won't so they greenlight whatever they feel like at the time. Crazy.

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Mothman wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
The only exception I have seen of the movie industry making a good movie out of a book is Lord of the Rings. Peter David Rocks!
Who's Peter David?

Sheesh, doesn't anyone watch the credits anymore? He's the third assistant gaffer. Duh.

Liberty's Edge

kikai13 wrote:

Isn't that the dad on Family Guy?

Thats Peter Griffin (i think)

Peter Jackson did LOTR

There's a guy named Peter David who wrote some Star Trek novels.


Mothman wrote:
kikai13 wrote:

Isn't that the dad on Family Guy?

Thats Peter Griffin (i think)

Peter Jackson did LOTR

There's a guy named Peter David who wrote some Star Trek novels.

Q-Squared. Also wrote some excellent issues of The Incredible Hulk back in the 90s.

*hides her comic book geek badge*


Moff Rimmer wrote:
(An impassioned defense of conservative Christians and the veracity of the Bible.)

Thanks for the support. I was going to let it go, but I appreciate your jumping in.

Oh, and just for you . . .
. . . . . Its cold out side, no kind of atmosphere. . . .

Sebastian wrote:
I generally equate Christian Conservative with Biblical Literalist, and I think that might be similar to the rule of thumb most other people apply when they use the term. Basically, if you believe the world was literally created in 7 days, you're a Christian Conservative in my book.

That’s not a bad definition – the Biblical Literalist bit, not the 7 day bit. As Moff Rimmer pointed out, you can believe it literally and not necessarily take it to mean 7 24 hour days (after all, the sun wasn’t created until the fourth day . . . .). I’ll have to remember that the next time asks me for a quick definition of conservative Christian.

Arctaris wrote:
Okay, I apologize if I offended anyone

Don’t worry about it - you’re ok. If I can laugh at the postings several pages back on this thread then you don’t have anything to worry about.

Arctaris wrote:
For everyone who was complaining about the snow I live in Southern Colorado so I feel your pain.

Small world – I’m just a couple hours north of you off of I-25. Do you live near the Springs, Pueblo, or out on the plains? Nice weather we’ve had for the last two months, no?

New rant: I can’t stand it when I see road signs that say, “Icy Roads May Exist.” Do you mean you’re not sure if they exist or not, and you are postulating their existence? I can attest from personal experience that icy roads do indeed exist. I really didn’t think that the existence of icy roads was up for debate. I’m equally amazed that the transportation department isn’t sure of the existence of windy conditions and foggy conditions.

I’d assume that it was to save space on the sign, but “Icy Roads May Exist” actually takes more characters to write than “Roads May Be Icy.”

Why can’t they make a statement concerning the likelihood of icy conditions instead of an existential statement?

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Spellcrafter wrote:
New rant: I can’t stand it when I see road signs that say, “Icy Roads May Exist.”

I just love (haha) the "Primitive Road - No Warning Signs" signs. I mean, I get the point and all, but doesn't that actually count as a warning sign???

Liberty's Edge

I'm always annoyed by the signs which read "In case of fire use stairs"

um, so I should take the stairs rather than the elevator just in case there's a fire?? Well that's what the sign says (and as a good little drone I always have to do what the signs say - don't I?)

In THE case of A fire, use stairs. Four letters, how hard is it?

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Mothman wrote:

I'm always annoyed by the signs which read "In case of fire use stairs"

um, so I should take the stairs rather than the elevator just in case there's a fire?? Well that's what the sign says (and as a good little drone I always have to do what the signs say - don't I?)

In THE case of A fire, use stairs. Four letters, how hard is it?

Those signs are specifically for Frankenstein. Everybody knows how much Frankenstein dislikes fire. And definite articles.


Fatespinner wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:
That will only be one of several exciting events at this year's "VatiCON".
If they seriously tried to hold a gaming convention in the Vatican, I might be tempted to sell my car just to have enough money to go. That would be AWESOME!

Holy Lands - Deluxe Edition

The distinctions between Holy Lands and other RPG's (role-playing games) are its
keys to excellence. First of all, Holy Lands stands alone because "real" Christianity
is the fundamental faith of the character, not some allegorical fantasy faith in a
polytheistic (multi-god) world. The character believes in, proclaims, and fights for
God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the "real" message of eternal salvation. Next,
the challenges the characters face are based on high-fantasy evils (demons,
sorcery, and dangerous rogues) that have a primary mission of destroying the
Church and Christians. It raises the story to an epic level where evil fights for
tyrannical dominance and good (the Christians) oppose these forces with might and
Miracles to create and maintain peace.

The bottom line is that Holy Lands is a Christian role-playing game. The
uncompromised Christian elements of the game masterfully combined with fantasy
wonder make it stand head-and-shoulders above its competitors. With a clear
position, a clear message, and a clear conscience, Holy Lands remains an icon for
Christian adventurers everywhere. From temptation to Miracles to preaching to
destroying evil, this game is the answer for Christian gamers who need a higher
level than the other games offer out there.

... The only role playing game endorsed by the pope (in Rome.) This is actually a real product that you can buy, but not at Paizo.

RANT I hate my wife's cats!!! All other cats are ok.

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Wise Meerkat wrote:


RANT I hate my wife's cats!!! All other cats are ok.

The disclaimer cracked me up!


I agree about the D&D movies. They were even made by people who theoretically play the game. Didn't anyone bother to tell them that the movies were retarded?! I watched about half of the first one and all of the second one. If anyone out there is considering seeing these movies don't bother. They have terrible acting, terrible storylines the special effects aren't that bad considering when they were made but the rest is crap.
Yeah Spellcrafter I sure do love shoveling a driveway every few days and missing work. I'm just glad we didn't lose power. We live out on the plains near Pueblo.


Arctaris wrote:
Yeah Spellcrafter I sure do love shoveling a driveway every few days and missing work. I'm just glad we didn't lose power. We live out on the plains near Pueblo.

I was feeling pretty sorry for myself about that too (corner lot, egad!) until I heard about the 10 feet of snow in New York. I can’t imagine what that must be like right now.

I grew up in the Springs, but only saw Pueblo a few times when we went through it on our way to Alamosa or Durango, crossing Wolf Creek pass. I live fairly close to Fort Collins (home of the Fat Tire) now.

Scarab Sages

Mothman wrote:
I'm always annoyed by the signs which read "In case of fire use stairs"

My wife is an editor and hates the street sign "Gusty winds may exist".

The question isn't whether or not gusty winds exist, but rather whether or not they are present.

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You know what ticks me off? Freaking ERRATA for books! I wish they would adequately playtest and proofread their works BEFORE releasing them to the public!!! Grrr!

I can understand a few minor typos here and there but when entire CLASSES are getting revised and major game balance issues are popping up, it really bugs me. At the very, VERY least, they should include a pre-paid envelope with a registration form for each book. You fill out the registration card, mail it in, and, if there's any errata that needs to be released, you get it in the mail... FOR FREE! They could even just include a code printed on the inside cover of the book that you would enter into a website to register! Better yet, they REPRINT THE DAMN BOOK and send you a new copy. That might be a bit much to ask, but I would sure as hell appreciate it. Plus, it might give them incentive to, I don't know, CHECK THEIR WORK???

Now, I'll admit that people could easily steal this code since most FLGSs allow you to browse the books and it would not be hard to jot down a reg. code, so maybe they would have to go another step and require a date of purchase and a copy of the receipt be sent in with it, but that's not really so hard. People do it for all kinds of other stuff already. For people who say 'that's too much hassle,' well, no one's MAKING you register your book but if something gets errata'd, you'll be the last to know.

I've said before that I don't like to use the internet for my reference material. I want the book in front of me with all the information I need. If I have to reference two or three books for an answer, fine, but if I have to GET UP from my gaming table to go into the other room, open my browser and hunt down some freaking OBSCURE errata that may or may not even exist (because how am I to know if a certain thing has been errata'd or not?)... it burns me up!

End rant.


Fatespinner wrote:

You know what ticks me off? Freaking ERRATA for books! I wish they would adequately playtest and proofread their works BEFORE releasing them to the public!!! Grrr!

I can understand a few minor typos here and there but when entire CLASSES are getting revised and major game balance issues are popping up, it really bugs me. At the very, VERY least, they should include a pre-paid envelope with a registration form for each book. You fill out the registration card, mail it in, and, if there's any errata that needs to be released, you get it in the mail... FOR FREE! Better yet, they REPRINT THE DAMN BOOK and send you a new copy. That might be a bit much to ask, but I would sure as hell appreciate it. Plus, it might give them incentive to, I don't know, CHECK THEIR WORK???

I've said before that I don't like to use the internet for my reference material. I want the book in front of me with all the information I need. If I have to reference two or three books for an answer, fine, but if I have to GET UP from my gaming table to go into the other room, open my browser and hunt down some freaking OBSCURE errata that may or may not even exist (because how am I to know if a certain thing has been errata'd or not?)... it burns me up!

End rant.

I'm with you!


I agree it sucks. By the way you can download the errata from the WotC site.

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Arctaris wrote:
By the way you can download the errata from the WotC site.

Yes, but tragically, I lack a printer.


Fatespinner wrote:
I can understand a few minor typos here and there but when entire CLASSES are getting revised and major game balance issues are popping up, it really bugs me. At the very, VERY least, they should include a pre-paid envelope with a registration form for each book. You fill out the registration card, mail it in, and, if there's any errata that needs to be released, you get it in the mail... FOR FREE! They could even just include a code printed on the inside cover of the book that you would enter into a website to register! Better yet, they REPRINT THE DAMN BOOK and send you a new copy. That might be a bit much to ask, but I would sure as hell appreciate it. Plus, it might give them incentive to, I don't know, CHECK THEIR WORK???

I agree with this hardcore. Zero consequences = zero incentive to get it right. Suffer the penalties of errors with extra work and the errors will reduce. Errors happen, it's a fact of life, but when your error count is higher than 5%, that's ridiculous. If I was only 95% accurate I'd be fired.

In the DMG 3.5, the part about converting rolled abilities for monster race intelligence? Anyone notice that when you look up the value it's wrong? I don't have it in front of me but whoever typed that up should be flogged mercilessly.


Aberzombie wrote:


Is that people days, or God days? I remember that movie Oh God! with George Burns - one of his God days could last a couple of decades.

George Burns rocked!

He did indeed.

My mother and I once shared a limo with him back in the early 70's in California.

Say goodnight, Gracie.


Ultradan wrote:

A movie rant heh?... What I hate (and cannot understand), is when they're making crappy movies like the Dungeons and Dragons movie, doesn't anybody realize (writters, directors, actors) that they're making a dud. Doesn't anyone on the set say "Ah, isn't this cheesy?"... What's wrong with these people? Who authorizes these scripts? I thought they were in money making buisness.

Ultradan

It boggles the mind. Where is the quality control, the talent, the originality and love of the work? When I've asked a few people in the industry why this is happening they tell me that people are stupid, and if you gave them any more they wouldn't want it. They all say the same thing.

Better tell that to John Milius and Peter Jackson so they'll know there's no money in epic fantasy masterpieces.

May I witness a tale that stirs the blood, doesn't hack off something well and recently known? A tale that isn't acted stiffly, written without cliche, and doesn't have a load of costumes that look like freshly sewn felt and crinoline?


I hate getting sick; sheesh sick AGAIN; my kids I love them; but I have never been sick so many times in my life; schools are just big germ factories!

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Here's my rant: Macs.

I hate these pieces of s&!& so f~!#ing much. My wife loves them, so we bought one of the s@+~ boxes and, as we're always told, they're ideal for multimedia type functions. So, being the idiot I am, I load every single picture I take onto the machine. Today, I wanted to burn a CD to take with me to MI to show my family pictures of the kids and stuff.

So, I go into iPhoto and I say "Hey Mac, burn me up a CD." Which the mac does.

But the beloved mac fails to mention that it only burns in f%+$ed up mac format, not the format that every other human being I've ever known uses. So, I have a CD in a format I can't use. Not a huge deal, I toss the CD, go in and figure it must be easy to just export in a windows compatible format. This is a Mac, right? They're easy to use, right?

Nope. To do that trick you've got to export your photos into a folder and then copy that folder onto your CD. Okay, I'm not a moron, I can do this. And I'm all done and I say, Hi Mac, where's the CD-Rom?

And the Mac just looks confused.

Because even though the Mac told me I put in the CD-Rom and offered to burn music on it for me and even though it used the exact same format CD-Rom to burn the original CD in iPhotos, it can't find the CD in its Finder.

Okay, Macs are easy, right? The help system is probably robust and will tell me the problem.

Turns out the help system is designed specifically for Mac's target demographic of people who think calculators are high tech. It's full of helpful advice like "are you using a writeable CD?" and "Is the disk in the drive?"

Of course the disk is in the drive you f#$$ing piece of s*$*! I just put it there! You just burned on a different disk from the exact same package of disks.

On a windows machine, I could do this in 5 f#+&ing minutes. Easy to use my ass.

And while I'm at it, I'll relate another easy to use mac story.

Anyone installed a game on their computer since the mid-90's? Ever notice when you put the game disk in, Windows pops right up with installation helper and says "oh, I see you've put in a new piece of software, want me to install that for you?" Let me just tell you that you are taking that feature for granted.

My last adventure with the mac was putting in a piece of software to install and having nothing happened. Eventually I found my way into the browser and tried launching the program from the CD Rom. Again, something that would work on a windows machine. The mac told me my disk was too full. For a minute, I believed it, as mentioned, we store all our media on the piece of s~@#.

Nope. Turns out the ever helpful mac requires you to copy the entire contents of the disk onto the hard drive before you can install a piece of software.

I. F%#&ING. HATE. MACS.


So you wouldn't suggest buying a Mac.


I have all macs and sometimes they piss me off, but not near as much as PCs do. Every computer is going to make you want to throw it through the window, it's just a lesser of evils kind of choice.

By the way I hate mercurial great swords.


P.H. Dungeon wrote:
By the way I hate mercurial great swords.

Please, elucidate.


I don't need to add a weapon into the game that has a x4 crit damage.

QUOTE="Saern"]

P.H. Dungeon wrote:
By the way I hate mercurial great swords.
Please, elucidate.

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P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I don't need to add a weapon into the game that has a x4 crit damage.

But... there are weapons with a x4 crit multiplier listed in the PHB. The scythe and all the varieties of picks have a x4 crit multiplier. Mercurial greatswords just have a 19-20/x4 crit which, granted, is pretty nasty, but they require Exotic Weapon Proficiency to wield and, for the same feat slot, someone could just take Improved Critical for the scythe and get the same effect. The only real difference I see is that EWP can be taken at level 1 and Imp. Crit requires at least level 8.

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me mechanically. The notion of filling a sword with mercury and using it as a weapon is a little absurd, but not so bad when contrasted with the fact that magic exists in the world. I don't have a problem with them.

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Next Rant: Dice Nazis!!!!!

Every gamer has known at least one of these people. The ones who have "THEIR" dice which they will not let anyone else so much as BREATHE on. They always insist on rolling their own dice for everything because THEIR dice have been steeped in Holy Water under the light of the full moon and then wrapped in holly leaves covered in fairy dust for a fortnight before being blessed in a sacrifical ritual at dawn and annointed with sacred oil or some crap. These are the people who claim that their dice are 'lucky' but, in all reality, usually just outright CHEAT and lie about what they've rolled when a DM can't maneuver into a position to actually SEE what they've rolled.

Also, they'll be DAMNED if they let anyone use their dice for ANYTHING because they might 'taint' them with their unluckiness. They have their little plastic case of 45 d6s but can you borrow a few of them to roll your sneak attack damage since you only brought 2? HELL NO!!! They tell you to just roll yours multiple times.

Urrrrgh! I stopped allowing these people into my games, even if they are good roleplayers. I can't allow such unfettered snottiness to ruin my games. Everyone is at the game to have fun. We can't have fun if you're being an ass. Get out.


I have a minor tendancy to being protective of my best dice and I always use them (I have one of those cool big metal d20s) but I will let other people use them if they are careful with them but if they lose those precious dice lord help me I will extract dark vengance. Those dice are my precious!
Gollum! Gollum!

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Arctaris wrote:

I have a minor tendancy to being protective of my best dice and I always use them (I have one of those cool big metal d20s) but I will let other people use them if they are careful with them but if they lose those precious dice lord help me I will extract dark vengance. Those dice are my precious!

Gollum! Gollum!

Being "protective" of your dice is fine. Being a FREAKING QUASI-RELIGIOUS ZEALOT about your dice is quite another. If you were playing with total strangers at a gaming store, this behavior becomes excusable but when you're with friends, seriously, why be a dick about it?

FWIW, I really hate those big metal dice. They dent the crap out of my nice Ethan Allen table. Rolling them on books just means denting the books instead. Lose-lose situation for me. But hey, do what you will.


Some fo the friends that I play with are spastic and lose dice at a prolific rate.

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Arctaris wrote:
Some fo the friends that I play with are spastic and lose dice at a prolific rate.

Wow... so much so that if you were to let them use a couple of dice for one roll, there is a substantial chance that they would vanish instantly, never to be retrieved? That's impressive. Do they keep portable holes up their sleeves or something?


No but one but one of them has a tendancy to throw them around and they (the dice) then dissapear under a couch or something and might be found in a month or two so I generally don't let some of them use my nicer dice. No portable holes though.


I have lost two dice in my roughly three and a half to four years of playing D&D. While I do believe one was lost at someone else's house, another vanished right here in my own home, and I think I am to blame for both. I'm not overly attatched to them, however, since the buggers (EDIT- "buggers" is blocked, but "bastards" isn't?) often just decide to do whatever is most inconvenient at any given moment. I've actually rolled six consecutive stat sets with my good-ole dice that the DM demanded I scrap because they were so atrocious (I didn't complain about his command, either).

I have the unfortunate habit of getting pretty non-descript dice, which are easily mixed up with other people's (other than my original set, which are the leat benevolent of all). The one set I have that's pretty distinctive is, unfortunately, very similar to a set that Sexi Golem owns. He's not the most careful about sorting out which dice belong to who when he leaves your house, so my d4 left me for a few months a while back. However, he did have the presence of mind, for which I thank him, to actually bring it back the last time he was in town.

I've never had any dice nazis, but I had two players who insisted on doing a "roster." This was typically only done for character creation, because it too so long. They would basicall roll each dice they owned a great number of times, take the high rollers, roll those a great number of times, take the high rollers, and repeat, until they had their dice that they would roll their set with.

Luckily, they developed this habit after we started making characters at separate sessions, or just at home between games, so it didn't take up play time. I know that the previous roll of a die shouldn't influence its future rolls in any real way, but their stats were consistently the highest in the group. I was questionable at first, but then I watched them do it in front of me, and it seemed legit, and I really didn't have the heart to stop them from doing their "roster."


They sound obssessive compulsive.

Silver Crusade

No joke, somebody dropped one of my d20s in the toilet one time. It happens.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Celestial Healer wrote:
No joke, somebody dropped one of my d20s in the toilet one time. It happens.

What kind of check were they making in there?


That's a bad place for Constitution check.


If they are going to fail it is the best place for the con check!

Liberty's Edge

Dang air elementals!!! Texas wind keeps knocking out my power, and kicking me offline!!! Arrgh...


In the toilet?! What on earth would one be doing with a d20 in the bathroom?

The Exchange

Arctaris wrote:
In the toilet?! What on earth would one be doing with a d20 in the bathroom?

Hope it didn't involve a grapple check......

The only dice I have lost is the few slacker-dice that needed to be melted down and kept as an example to the other dice I own. When a d20 rolls less than 10 more then 5 or so times in a row.....it is in the frying pan until it bubbles into a puddle. I have one that I show to my other dice as a lesson to roll high. It looks like a gibbering mouther with numbers.

FH

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Celestial Healer wrote:
No joke, somebody dropped one of my d20s in the toilet one time. It happens.

Knowing you, I believe you. ;)

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