Pathfinder Adventure Path #181: Zombie Feast (Blood Lords 1 of 6)

The Raven Black wrote:

Alex Speidel wrote:

Heads-up to any Pathfinder Society GMs: after discussions internally, the Organized Play team has decided not to sanction the Blood Lords AP for Pathfinder Society play. The adventure has a number of horror elements that are not appropriate for public play, and the core elements of the adventure assume that the players are either evil or tolerant of evil actions, which is not in alignment with the Pathfinder Society's values.

We will aim to sanction the less-icky content for Pathfinder Society play via boons closer to the release of the final volume, but we will not be releasing chronicles. We hope you enjoy playing it with your home groups!

I think this significantly reduces the odds that my group, and I guess some others, will ever play this AP. We are playing almost only PFS and spending time playing sanctioned APs and adventures provides benefits that are likely to tip the decision. Too bad.

Note : "characters", not "players" ;-)

Geb is so thoroughly an Evil state that I can’t imagine the Pathfinder Society wanting to be associated with its troubleshooters and political agents. In the case of Blood Lords, we really are the baddies, and that’s a no-go for organized play.

Way I understood it, sanctioning did not mean you played the AP / adventure with PFS agents. Of course I might be completely wrong.

I just wanted to share a factual consequence of the decision.

Not that anyone watching from outside the game will be able to tell the difference.

Not that anyone watching from outside the game will be able to tell the difference.

TBH we have been playing exclusively online for more than 2 years now, each player in the comfort of their home.

Not sure that many people were watching from outside ;-D

Evilgm wrote:

Any word yet on whether this AP is going to be getting Foundry support? We've been really impressed with the official Outlaws mods and are definitely hoping to see a similar level of support for this AP.

Yes!

I can now definitively report that we are going to be releasing an official conversion of Blood Lords for Foundry, with the caveat that we were waiting to see how well Outlaws of Alkenstar did before we decided to pull the trigger, so we might not be making street date with the first volume.

But it's coming.

I just bought all 3 of the Outlaws of Alkenstar for Foundry. My group has been on a bit of a longer break so I haven't been keeping up with some of the new releases. I will definitely be purchasing all of the foundry adventure path modules moving forward though.

Would love to hear about the spells in the toolkit for this AP. I hear there are some bloody ones, which sound very appropriate for the blood-focused witch in my upcoming campaign.

Is it odd that I'm looking forward to the trailer for the AP? I hope my order ships today or tomorrow.

Would love to hear about the spells in the toolkit for this AP. I hear there are some bloody ones, which sound very appropriate for the blood-focused witch in my upcoming campaign.

I discuss volume 1 and the toolkit with author Mike Kimmel in this episode of Paizo LIVE.

Xethik wrote:

Would love to hear about the spells in the toolkit for this AP. I hear there are some bloody ones, which sound very appropriate for the blood-focused witch in my upcoming campaign.

I discuss volume 1 and the toolkit with author Mike Kimmel in this episode of Paizo LIVE.

Oh fantastic, thank you Aaron!

Hoping its not the final art, things need to look bleaker for an Undead AP, how merry is the halfling on the cover? (and not in a creepy, good way) and the adventurers have a look in their face like they are facing annoying children, not undead ravagers. Where is the horror? - art concept needs to be a bit more grown up IMO.

What's more horrific than a perfectly normal scene that hides the monstrous behind the benign?

I actually love the Halfling. Her chipper demeanor hides the vile darkness in her heart. I mean, seeing a smiling Halfling with various body parts hanging from her person is infinitely more terrifying. The evil you know is better than the evil you can't perceive.

It is the worst AP cover ever. Compare to Ironfang Invasion if you want to see the difference between peak and bottom. There’s still time to fix this, Paizo.

I actually love the Halfling. Her chipper demeanor hides the vile darkness in her heart. I mean, seeing a smiling Halfling with various body parts hanging from her person is infinitely more terrifying. The evil you know is better than the evil you can't perceive.

Indeed. You don't want to know why she smiles at you. Both very creepy and worrisome.

There’s still time to fix this, Paizo.

My dude, it is already printed.

Hoping its not the final art, things need to look bleaker for an Undead AP, how merry is the halfling on the cover?

Why wouldn't the halfling be merry? She's a member of the governing aristocracy, a necromancer in a land of the undead. Everything's rosy.

It is the worst AP cover ever. Compare to Ironfang Invasion if you want to see the difference between peak and bottom. There’s still time to fix this, Paizo.

Like, what, un-send all the copies that were sent already to subscribers, destroy all copies in the warehouse and order new art that one guy on the forum will enjoy more?

It is the worst AP cover ever. Compare to Ironfang Invasion if you want to see the difference between peak and bottom. There’s still time to fix this, Paizo.

why are you still posting this. was posting it once and everyone calling you a jerk not enough

My comment was deleted and then people brought it up again on their own so I reposted my opinion and it’s already been liked 3 times. Doesn’t mean we don’t love Paizo just because we have eyes. And deleting negative criticism won’t improve any covers, not now and even less in the future. Quite the opposite in fact: letting the criticism stand is how you improve in the future.

You can criticize something without being a jerk about it. And without arrogance, "because we have eyes:", so your opinion is the only one that matters?

Your post was removed because you were being a jerk. Conversely, lots of people like the creepy cover.

Things are getting off track. Please focus discussions on the product as this is a product page. Disagreements are fine as long as they are civil and measured. This is a place for discourse.

Andrew White wrote:

Evilgm wrote:

Any word yet on whether this AP is going to be getting Foundry support? We've been really impressed with the official Outlaws mods and are definitely hoping to see a similar level of support for this AP.

Yes!

I can now definitively report that we are going to be releasing an official conversion of Blood Lords for Foundry, with the caveat that we were waiting to see how well Outlaws of Alkenstar did before we decided to pull the trigger, so we might not be making street date with the first volume.

But it's coming.

I just bought all 3 of the Outlaws of Alkenstar for Foundry. My group has been on a bit of a longer break so I haven't been keeping up with some of the new releases. I will definitely be purchasing all of the foundry adventure path modules moving forward though.

Same here! I probably wont run OoA, but i want to show support to the premium content Paizo is working on with FoundryVTT. The quality is amazing.

TRDG wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

rokeca wrote:

Does anyone know if Roll20 will be offering Blood Lords?

They are not offering it at this time.

So disgusted with Roll20 with this news, I have a GM (she is new and has only GMed 2 short 5th Ed game sessions, as well as no experience with Roll20 so I am mentoring her) and my new player crew (also 100% new to PF II), made our characters and ready to go. Now I have to hand craft it in (again on Roll20 so have to delay the game a number of weeks.

Aaron, anything we can do here, I'm sure not but have to ask.......

SIGH

Tom

At present, Drift Crisis, Lost Omens World Guide, and Dark Archive are set to launch on Roll20 later this month. Other Lost Omens titles are in the works and Kingmaker - in all its glory - is in progress, with a plethora of exciting features set to make it one of the most robust launches to ever come to the Roll20 Marketplace. Paizo and Roll20 continue to work on many products and projects.

Sorry for the late reply but work has been brutal Aaron

Yep, I know all that and that's great if your doing homebrew or older AP's. But for us wanting to GM or be a player on Roll20 with the latest its no real help at all.

Having the Book of the Undead, nice but again almost not worth it as you can't apply it to the intended AP it was meant for.....

All common sense stuff and I know with your promotion (BIG congrats and very well deserved by the way :)) you have to put the best face on things.

But as usual it is what it is and I'll have to hand craft it in, again sadly....

Nice to see Foundry will be picking it up and might end up going thier by Mod 2, we will see!!

Anyone who has this now if I can ask, how are the maps and are there a lot not covered or do they have most of them?

Thanks

Tom

But as usual it is what it is and I'll have to hand craft it in, again sadly....

Nice to see Foundry will be picking it up and might end up going thier by Mod 2, we will see!!

Anyone who has this now if I can ask, how are the maps and are there a lot not covered or do they have most of them?

Thanks

Tom

It hasn't yet been released for Foundry, and won't be until after the street date of Zombie Feast.

Aaron Shanks wrote:

TRDG wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

rokeca wrote:

Does anyone know if Roll20 will be offering Blood Lords?

They are not offering it at this time.

So disgusted with Roll20 with this news, I have a GM (she is new and has only GMed 2 short 5th Ed game sessions, as well as no experience with Roll20 so I am mentoring her) and my new player crew (also 100% new to PF II), made our characters and ready to go. Now I have to hand craft it in (again on Roll20 so have to delay the game a number of weeks.

Aaron, anything we can do here, I'm sure not but have to ask.......

SIGH

Tom

At present, Drift Crisis, Lost Omens World Guide, and Dark Archive are set to launch on Roll20 later this month. Other Lost Omens titles are in the works and Kingmaker - in all its glory - is in progress, with a plethora of exciting features set to make it one of the most robust launches to ever come to the Roll20 Marketplace. Paizo and Roll20 continue to work on many products and projects.

Sorry for the late reply but work has been brutal Aaron

Yep, I know all that and that's great if your doing homebrew or older AP's. But for us wanting to GM or be a player on Roll20 with the latest its no real help at all.

Having the Book of the Undead, nice but again almost not worth it as you can't apply it to the intended AP it was meant for.....

All common sense stuff and I know with your promotion (BIG congrats and very well deserved by the way :)) you have to put the best face on things.

But as usual it is what it is and I'll have to hand craft it in, again sadly....

Nice to see Foundry will be picking it up and might end up going thier by Mod 2, we will see!!

Anyone who has this now if I can ask, how are the maps and are there a lot not covered or do they have most of them?

Thanks

Tom

Thanks! When you get a chance, I would appreciate customer input on the PDF import technology that the merged Roll20/OneBookShelf have announced. A new thread would be best.

"In the coming weeks, we will add PDF support to Roll20’s VTT, giving GMs and players the ability to upload, read, share, and immediately play using any PDF in the VTT. No need to link anywhere else for your players!!"

If you get a PDF from our API and imported it into their site, would that catch you up on some of the functionality you are seeking?

Thanks bud, that would, only thing is the no hi res maps Roll20 gets when you both agree on a launched product.

For me personally I buy from you guys, Roll20 mostly. Then some from drivethrough RPG in their various aspects of mostly maps honestly and some Pathfinder 2nd Ed and Starfinder Infinite.

Pickings though there are pretty slim as I loo for AP expansions as well as PF I to PF II conversions. Almost wish Paizo whould open up an Infinite forum here so customers and the free lancers can have a goo dmeeting fo the minds to chat and discuss what they would by if made, and what they might be making for the future.

I just might start that thread up when it rolls out, not a problem.

Thanks again for the help

Tom

So I have a major question on how to handle an issue that I've already found in preparing to run this AP...

So I have a major question on how to handle an issue that I've already found in preparing to run this AP...

** spoiler omitted **

Sounds like an RP opportunity to me!

How do folks actually like this adventure? I assume subs have had a chance to skim it by now, but I haven’t heard anything.

It’s a bit too combat-heavy for my liking, but I still haven’t done an in-depth read-through.

How do folks actually like this adventure? I assume subs have had a chance to skim it by now, but I haven’t heard anything.

Just skimming through it:

I'm waiting on the VTT release before I tackle it.

Anything on the map front, extra cool, the usual (Basic) or to many maps not shown kinda thing and did they nail the flavor of the theme of this AP so far?

Thanks

Tom

Not sure what you're asking in regards to the maps; but, it is a little hard to say with certainty it nails the theme here. Without reading it cover to cover, it strikes me as being a decent start to a much larger plot. I'm not sure the them will pick up until volume 2. But I could be mistaken. It does seem fun and interesting, for sure. At least for me. I'm looking forward to the other volumes.

Looking at the amount of "oh crap" macabre art inside this book, the "oh no the cover isn't black and there's a smiling halfling, this is not how you do a cover for a horror adventure!" arguments are really not landing with what you get inside.

Not sure what you're asking in regards to the maps; but, it is a little hard to say with certainty it nails the theme here. Without reading it cover to cover, it strikes me as being a decent start to a much larger plot. I'm not sure the them will pick up until volume 2. But I could be mistaken. It does seem fun and interesting, for sure. At least for me. I'm looking forward to the other volumes.

Thanks Ly'ualdre

Are the maps pretty plain and cookie cutter or does it do justice to the farm and other places and the city map, hopefully.

Overall, from PF I to PF II sometimes the maps in AP's are quite cool and intricate, and at other times, not so much sadly.

Is what I'm kinda getting at here, already know the no Hi res if one does not go to foundry (Lucky them) but will I have to look for extra, or alternative maps or wait for the creatives here in the player/GM base to create their own?

Thanks again for the post!!

Tom

Hmm. I'd hardly say they are cookie cutter? But I'm not sure. I'm hardly a cartographer. ^^

I will say that they are probably functional and have some visual flairs that make them interesting; like the walls of the manor being made of bones.

The map of the city of Graydirge is in the Player's Guide, along with a minor examination of some of its areas and lore. The real gazateer is in the First volume. Haven't sat down and ready it, but I'm sure it is useful.

I've been trying to complete purchase for PDF for the last hour, continuously getting error message;

The requested URL was not found on this server, or you do not have permission to access this area.

Clearing the cache has not helped.

I just wanted to leave a scathing comment about how great your web store is for non-subscribers.

Because, y'know, it really isn't.

Is this working yet?

Don't want the hassle of it not going through with the PDF as I have this linked to several other apps and such in my Paizo account here .

Have most bought it and have had no issues except for a couple or is this wide spread here?

Thanks

Tom

There was an issue with the code release last evening that is causing this current situation. We are working on a solution currently.

Thanks Aaron so I'll hold off for now then and check back Thursday.

Tom

Hope everyone's hungry!

Any update on a release date for the Foundry module? I want to hold off on running this until the mod's out but I don't know how long I can wait :)

How do folks actually like this adventure? I assume subs have had a chance to skim it by now, but I haven’t heard anything.

Without getting into spoilers, tt's fine, but the plot doesn't really break the mold. I like the art except for the cover and a portrait on page 3. I thought the map environments ranged from good to mediocre, but the maps themselves are good (although several will be tricky to get on VTTs.) My favorite thing is the allied NPCs. I

Read through the book it looks super good! Running it with 2 groups this week very excited. I'm in the same boat as LeFay. I'd hope the module comes out before Sunday but if not I gotta do what I gotta do.

Any update on a release date for the Foundry module? I want to hold off on running this until the mod's out but I don't know how long I can wait :)

We are not ready to announce a date yet, but is it near to being ready.

I will finally be able to play a Dhampir character. Is it only evil characters or can neutrals be used?

Neutral characters are fair game!