I truly enjoy that this AP has laid out all of the story beats so that the GM isn't left questioning what exactly is going on for books and books. This AP is written with a much different voice than the ones that came before it and I enjoy the change in style and tone immensely.
I'm also pleasantly surprised at the absolute deluge of female characters. I would like to give an estimate that 80% of the characters introduced in this Adventure Path are female, which is interesting, as it also includes named villains and enemies-- including...
(My one request since ages past-- a good-aligned handsome heterosexual male character-- has yet to make an appearance, however.)
I can tell that the new AP line is going to be much different than the previous one. I think that's a great thing. I'm excited to start in on the next book after this and see if it falls prey to the other Paizo pitfall-- these interesting NPCs being completely sidelined and ignored.
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I truly enjoy that this AP has laid out all of the story beats so that the GM isn't left questioning what exactly is going on for books and books. This AP is written with a much different voice than the ones that came before it and I enjoy the change in style and tone immensely.
I'm also pleasantly surprised at the absolute deluge of female characters. I would like to give an estimate that 80% of the characters introduced in this Adventure Path are female, which is interesting, as it also includes named villains and enemies-- including... ** spoiler omitted ** The characters are charming, their backstories simple and filled with potential for a clever GM to expand to fit his group's needs.
(My one request since ages past-- a good-aligned handsome heterosexual male character-- has yet to make an appearance, however.)
I can tell that the new AP line is going to be much different than the previous one. I think that's a great thing. I'm excited to start in on the next book after this and see if it falls prey to the other Paizo pitfall-- these interesting NPCs being completely sidelined and ignored.
I know for a fact, as far back as Curse of the Crimson Throne we have ruggedly handsome men with good alignment that are either heterosexual or undefined:
Vencarlo Orisini
Marcus Endrin
Neolandus Kalepopolis
those three popped to mind immediately for me as that was my first AP that I ran.
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on initial read haven't liked any AP this much thus far since KM
and the intro text in Mod 2 is very re-assuring for our all mounted PCs
Crystal mentioned this in past panels, but the AP is really designed to work with mounted PCs / PCs with animal companions. One thing that really stuck with me from the outline, was that the authors had to make every scene in their adventures 'work with a bear', as in, you should assume the PCs have a bear companion in each of the encounters.
Glad to see that people are noticing and appreciating that intended goal!
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on initial read haven't liked any AP this much thus far since KM
and the intro text in Mod 2 is very re-assuring for our all mounted PCs
Crystal mentioned this in past panels, but the AP is really designed to work with mounted PCs / PCs with animal companions. One thing that really stuck with me from the outline, was that the authors had to make every scene in their adventures 'work with a bear', as in, you should assume the PCs have a bear companion in each of the encounters.
Glad to see that people are noticing and appreciating that intended goal!
Nice.
*waves at the mysterious wreathed beauty*
@Axial, you should have insisted on that Bluff check, they were obviously lying.
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Any of the folks mentioning their hoped-for games looking for a dwarven Warpriest of Angradd with a dorn-dergar? Keeping my eyes on the Recruitment board but hey...
I'm super excited about this AP. I was the DM for a Forgotten Realms 3.5 campaign that incorporated a modified Red Hand of Doom, so I doubt anyone else in my IRL group will have much interest in fighting hobgoblins and their monstrous allies :/
on initial read haven't liked any AP this much thus far since KM
and the intro text in Mod 2 is very re-assuring for our all mounted PCs
Right there with you. Kudos to the Crew on this AP!
Humorously upon reading the next chapter my personal request was fulfilled.
Excellent stuff so far, very excited for part 3.
Considering attempting to cast the exploration segments as 'hexploration' ala Kingmaker. It seems more orderly and intuitive for my goals and will give my PCs a bit more of a direct hand in deciding which encounters they stumble into in the first two books of this AP.
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Why am I not surprised that a bestiary section that has Linda Zayas-Palmer as a contributor contains leshies?
Coincidence, it is not.
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I ran a Nirmathas-set campaign last year and this is going to be an amazing sequel. I've read the first two chapters and am thrilled with what Crystal and her entire team have done here.
I second the notion of the new "voice". There's a more personal touch to this AP, it feels more lived-in. I'm thrilled to see how this adventure path progresses :)
Crystal mentioned this in past panels, but the AP is really designed to work with mounted PCs / PCs with animal companions. One thing that really stuck with me from the outline, was that the authors had to make every scene in their adventures 'work with a bear', as in, you should assume the PCs have a bear companion in each of the encounters.
Glad to see that people are noticing and appreciating that intended goal!
The only issue with that is that a bear animal companion is only medium, so they're accommodating a medium creature... is there an AP that doesn't accommodate medium creatures?
They should have gone with a much larger creature like a wolf, which begs the question, what kind of messed up planet is Golarion that pet wolves start out the size of a wolf and get as large as bears, but pet bears start out the size of foxes and grow to the size of wolves, but wild bears and wolves grow the way we'd expect?
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Yay! Thankies ^w^Yay! Wereraptors got a Skinwalker kin too!Yup! I wanted to make sure this wouldn't be forgotten. (Mostly cause I want to play one myself!)
Agreed! I actually got a bit of a surprise since I saw the word "Wereraptor" before I saw the art and thought that someone had finally let James take the weredeinoychus we had in Iron Gods and turn it into a basic creature lol.
Turns out this one is pretty baller too, and the skinwalker stuff is a nice touch (especially for games like mine where they are a core race). That said, I'm a bit sad that all they get for flight powers is a 10ft speed increase for flying rather than any actual expanding fly power. I wonder if they will get some feat writeups to correct that in the future, or if some of the skinwalker feats that are specific for werebatkin might grant it and be applicable here.
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Crystal mentioned this in past panels, but the AP is really designed to work with mounted PCs / PCs with animal companions. One thing that really stuck with me from the outline, was that the authors had to make every scene in their adventures 'work with a bear', as in, you should assume the PCs have a bear companion in each of the encounters.
Glad to see that people are noticing and appreciating that intended goal!
The only issue with that is that a bear animal companion is only medium, so they're accommodating a medium creature... is there an AP that doesn't accommodate medium creatures?
They should have gone with a much larger creature like a wolf, which begs the question, what kind of messed up planet is Golarion that pet wolves start out the size of a wolf and get as large as bears, but pet bears start out the size of foxes and grow to the size of wolves, but wild bears and wolves grow the way we'd expect?
I think this speaks to a larger problem that has been percolating within the animal companion system for a long time where the kit stats we get for some animal companions don't accurately represent the creatures therein in an expected or entertaining way. Bears don't get to be large or give us a Bear, large block to work with, Brachiosaurs start medium and don't get to be large till 7th and stop there, Blue Whales never become colossal though that's kind of their biggest selling point, and Megaprimatus (aka King Kong) is literally the same as an ape rather than having it's own block that lets it get big or even get the Mega's special abilities. Hell, we didn't get vermin companions until UM and we haven't seen anymore since but have gotten a TON of new and interesting bugs since then.
Like in all honesty, I would love to get Mammoth Flea stats so I could build a Goblin Cavalier with a Giant Flea mount that can bound into a 120ft charge from a massive leap or ride an elephant (or diplodocus) from a howdah with a spear. But again, Paizo seems to not want to support it or other builds of that nature save the horse/camel dichotomy.
@Axial
a devastating rout
of Nirmathi guerrillas assaulting Fort Ramgate
(now referred to as the Ramgate Massacre by
its few Nirmathi survivors).
The Legion killed Nirmathi soldiers, not Molthune, by my reading.
They were stationed at Fort Ramgate, did their job by repulsing a Nirmathi attack, then deserted. Where are you reading that they attacked Molthune?
The illustration from the player's guide shows Hobgoblins slaughtering fleeing Molthuni troops. Nirmathis don't wear red tabards and full plate.
So now I'm confused...what is that illustration showing?
** spoiler omitted **Considering that there are only two adventures available, I'm not sure how on earth did you arrive at the conclusion that Molthune ignores Ironfangs for the rest of the AP.
So what does the illustration in the player's guide refer to?
EDIT: So when/where does this illustration of Hobs killing Molthunis happen?
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So what does the illustration in the player's guide refer to?
Some random unnamed battle? Not every WW2 photo showing US soldiers fighting Germans is from Battle of Normandy or Battle of Ardennes. Most of them are from Skirmish of Little Importance In The Middle of Nowhere.
Okay, okay, I'm sorry if I keep posting and if I seem annoyed, I'm just hoping to clarify this.
The Ironfang Legion is killing Molthuni soldiers at the time the AP occurs?
I suppose that leads back to the question of: why is Molthune not angry about this?
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So what does the illustration in the player's guide refer to?
EDIT: So when/where does this illustration of Hobs killing Molthunis happen?
You can read about it on page 72 of Trail of the Hunted. It's not as major an engagement as you're assuming.
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Axial, you'll do yourself (and everybody, and Crystal in particular) a big favor if you wait for the adventures instead of trying to guess what is Molthune's role in an AP that is *not* about Molthune based on forum posts, artwork and player's guide. At this point you're approaching the "I reject your reality and substitute it for my own" territory and, well, you're not Adam Savage.
Sorry, I made a few assumptions based on the information that I had access to. I wasn't trying to upset or annoy anybody.
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To re-iterate what we've told you about this AP several times int he last several months: You are welcome to interpret and change anything you like in the adventures. Molthune can be as angry or as distant about the situation as you like, and you are welcome to make all, some, or none of your PCs and politics Molthuni. Adventure Paths are not historical records and we assume everyone modifies them to suit their groups and interest.
I'm sorry if the "current events" comment wasn't clear. You're welcome to interpret that single half-page image any way you like. I personally saw it as the Legion seizing resources before they vanished without a trace, but it also works for a skirmish against a Molthuni watchpost or overrunning a position the Molthuni army just seized in Nirmathas. It's an illustration designed to show a group in action.
Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...
@ Axial: maybe that scene "has yet to happen".
Wereraptor: You are asking in the wrong product thread.
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Wereraptor: You are asking in the wrong product thread.Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...
@ Axial: maybe that scene "has yet to happen".
He is in the correct thread. The wereraptor appears in this issue's bestiary section
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He is in the correct thread. The wereraptor appears in this issue's bestiary sectionWereraptor: You are asking in the wrong product thread.Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...
@ Axial: maybe that scene "has yet to happen".
Yep! Wereraptor goodness here, Prestige Class goodness in the next.
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Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...
The wereraptor is a catch-all for all predatory birds like eagles, hawks, and vultures. The sample wereraptor is human and remains medium size in hybrid form. They also get talon attacks. There is also a sidebar for wereraptor-kin skinwalkers.
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Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...The wereraptor is a catch-all for all predatory birds like eagles, hawks, and vultures. The sample wereraptor is human and remains medium size in hybrid form. They also get talon attacks. There is also a sidebar for wereraptor-kin skinwalkers.
They cool WereBirbs.
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They cool WereBirbs.
In the sky silly.
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I thought from the description of "A bestiary containing new regional threats and allies, by Crystal Frasier, Amber E. Scott, Tonya Woldridge, and Linda Zayas-Palmer.", that this book was mainly done by an all-female team (and Ron Lundeen) and thought that the four of them maybe each have a favorite (female) iconic from the ranks of the four included ones (Adowyn, Feiya, Jirelle & Lini). ;-)
How could I choose just one? They are all so awesome! I tend to lean towards Lini, just because my favorite character in a game was a childlike/pass for human halfling with a large Snow Tiger. But witches are cool (just like fezs), Adowyn looks badass and Jirelle knows what to do with a sword.
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"WereEagle" would suggest a medium character becomes Small in Animal Form.Can I get a bit more info on the WereRaptor, like, what kind of bird of pray? Size in Animal Form? Do they get Talons attacks? etc...The wereraptor is a catch-all for all predatory birds like eagles, hawks, and vultures. The sample wereraptor is human and remains medium size in hybrid form. They also get talon attacks. There is also a sidebar for wereraptor-kin skinwalkers.
Ah, yes, sorry misread what you wrote. When I submitted the entry, I used the eagle for the base stats so a wereraptor should be small in animal form. Technically, hawks are tiny creatures, but I'm sure it's not too big of a concern for most tables.