Announced! Cover image is a mockup and subject to change.
Two ships in combat? I'm very interested to know how this will differ from "Pirate Ship" and what the flip side will have on it.
Two ships in combat? I'm very interested to know how this will differ from "Pirate Ship" and what the flip side will have on it.
I think that this is replace the out of print Pirate Ship Flip-Mat. Paizo (I think it was Vic Wertz) has said that they don't reprint the Flip-Mats, but when one goes out of print, they will make another related Flip-Mat to replace it.
Example:
When the GameMastery Flip-Mat: Dungeon (Original) sold out it was replaced by the GameMastery Flip-Mat: Dungeon (which was the map for Crypt of the Everflame). When THAT dungeon flip-mat sold out, they released the Ancient Dungeon Flip-Mat.
Very cool.
The out-of-print flip-mats are often a pain to find at a remotely reasonable price.
-TimD
I think that this is replace the out of print Pirate Ship Flip-Mat. Paizo (I think it was Vic Wertz) has said that they don't reprint the Flip-Mats, but when one goes out of print, they will make another related Flip-Mat to replace it.
I understand that, but it's also not going to be the same mat. I was just interested in knowing about some of the key differences.
Yes my understanding was that Paizo would look to replace out of prints such as this replacing the pirate ship one (which I had to hunt down on ebay at considerable inflated cost) and the recent tavern flip mat. And that's a good thing. Even better if there was a swamp replacement, hint hint nudge wink.
Announced! Cover image is a mockup and subject to change.
Cover image is probably not a mockup anymore, and probably not the intended cover image either.
Announced! Cover image is a mockup and subject to change.Cover image is probably not a mockup anymore, and probably not the intended cover image either.
Indeed! Flipping it back.
I HOPE that if the map is of 2 different warships, that one is an Andoren warship and the other one a Chelish man-of-war!
Any idea when we will get to see the final product of both sides of this flip mat?
Cover image and description updated to final.
You can fall into the water from the middle of the deck? What is this? I am confused yet intrigued! I'm looking forward to an image of the actual map because I'm having trouble visualizing it from the cover.
That looks weird indeed. It seems the ship has some kind of "outliers" to the side that are actuall off the side of the ship and above the water. I don't think I have ever seen a ship like that.
Maybe they're raised battle decks because the paths to them look like they're connected by stairs. So they're not really additional hulls but actually overhangs off the sides of the main deck.
I've been waiting for something like this for so long! I've been kicking myself for not getting the pirate ship when it was available.
Paizo, I *warship* you. ;-)
Sample images added!
Sample images added!
When you say warship, you aren't kidding.
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Hm, so they actually are additional hulls. I'm not sure that I care for these. Does the left hand one remind anyone else of the Horde warship from Warcraft II? Also, what're the red and blue things on the boats? Magic runes of some sort maybe?
I understand that they try to not do "generic" ships since there are a few going about already...however these are a little whacky and with limited replayability, due to a very unique set up to each.
They are in my opinion, fat and very non evocative of what I'd expect from a warship of some of Golarion's sea going nations. I appreciate the imagination in trying to make something different instead of a 1600s warship though.
I however have no previous experience from the flit mat products, so if someone would be kind enough to point at some of the merits I'd welcome it.
I'm a fan of the trimaran in particular, but yeah, these are a little wacky. Perhaps one side should have been more conservative.
However, there is always this.
Is Paizo going to do a Map Pack for the cabins and the below decks for this product?
There are cargo hatch grills an both ships and plenty of forecastle and aftcastle cabins to play in.
Paizo always says: "Don’t waste your time sketching when you could be playing."
Therefore, we need a MapPack for these items here.
Yes?
I understand that they try to not do "generic" ships since there are a few going about already...however these are a little whacky and with limited replayability, due to a very unique set up to each.
They are in my opinion, fat and very non evocative of what I'd expect from a warship of some of Golarion's sea going nations. I appreciate the imagination in trying to make something different instead of a 1600s warship though.I however have no previous experience from the flit mat products, so if someone would be kind enough to point at some of the merits I'd welcome it.
Well, given the fact that you are playing in a fantasy world, I think that the slightly "whacky" design works quite well if you use these ships as non-human warships. The previous flip mat/map packs work well representing all sorts of human sea going vessels, and I find that these two designs can work very well if you use the massive spikey one as say, a Hobgoblin Raider and the smooth trimaran as an Elven Corsair.
Oh, the possibilities...! :-)
Almost a year and a half later - still looking for a Map-Pack for these ships for all the reasons I said back when.
May we please have a Map-Pack for this?!?