I thought there would never be more than 3 Demodands in pathfinder?
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Please tell me you are going to be having Reaper do a mini based on that Baphomet picture. I mean, I would really like to see one for all the individuals I have seen on the covers of this AP so far, but that one practically screams metal.Well, Paizo has a sculpt, but it is going to be plastic and pre-painted I'm afraid. :)
Actually...
That is still pretty bad-ass.
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We'll since we get the 3 base demon sands as mini in the new set I kind of hope w get this mysterious 4th in the set as well. Suppose that depends on when the art was available.
Nope; just the base 3. The art for the 4th came in several months after we finalized the set list and sculpts.
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Well, there was Beyond Countless Doorways, the planar hardcover by me, Ray, Colin, and Monte.
And there was Dark Roads & Golden Hells, the ENnie-nominated planar handbook for Pathfinder.
So... It's not like we haven't gotten pretty close. We just need to get Erik, James, and Todd in for the next one. :)
Wow.
Just getting mentioned in the same space as those names is incredibly flattering to me. :D
And yes, I'd totally be up for anything like that if you do something in the future. *glee*
I love the cover, looks like something out of book of demonology. Can't wait for the mini.
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Oh no, it's an Ivory Templar! Someone, call Irabeth!
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Oh no, it's an Ivory Templar! Someone, call Irabeth!
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LOVE the more traditional Baphomet image.
I always hated the minatour version....well done ;)
Just rec'd email that this will be shipped next week. So hopefully I will be getting my PDF after the weekend....
LOVE the more traditional Baphomet image.
I always hated the minatour version....well done ;)
I'm psyched for Baphomet in general. I can't wait to see what kind of power he has, and I'll probably use his stat-block outside of WoTR in one of my homebrew campaigns.
I am actually liking this Baphomet more.
I know size doesn't equal intelligence (or lack of) but the scrawny Baphomet looks scarier.
That he could survive as a demon lord means he is even more BADASS like this.
Ok so we just finished the Midnight Isles so now we need this one.
Uh, wow. That is fast. How often and long do you play?
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Ok so we just finished the Midnight Isles so now we need this one.Uh, wow. That is fast. How often and long do you play?
About once a week for usually 3 hours or more if we can but it is also only me and a friend playing one character a piece so it is a little faster. Also with mythic we are destroying most encounters. Now my friend and I are waiting for Herald of the Ivory Labyrinth.
>Checks order< Curse you pending status!
Probably won't have any PDFs till the 19th next Sunday for subscriber's.
They're coming out tonight? Pretty early, but I can't complain.
Guess I'll be getting mine tonight then.
Just went through my PDF copy.
Monsters include a new demodand, a new demon that looks like the Tharizdun's eidolon, Baphomet and the Labyrinth minotaur.
Nicey dicey!
Can't wait for City of Locusts!
Got it!,
Unlikely potential ally amidst the abyss!!!
Surprised we're getting it this early. Sweet.
Still waiting on mine, but it usually opens up around midnight EST so I'm not too worried.
Abyssal Lord-
Not to dampen your enthusiasm for the AP as I am sure it is amazing, but in the future could you kindly use Spoiler tags for revealing what's in the AP?
I'm fairly certain that all of the information that Abyssal Lord posted was featured in various previews on the store blog.
Either way, if you feel that a post should have a spoiler tag, you can always flag it for a mod.
Back on topic: yay! I can't wait! :D
EDIT: YAY! Downloading now! :DD
Kudos to Wolfgang (and to James) for an awesome adventure path chapter, reads like the finale to any other AP! My mind boggles at what Pett must have prepared for the final chapter!
Got it and wow I have to say it is awesome.What do Baphomet's stats look like?
Pretty standard for his CR, which is 27. Compared to Nocticula, he's a joke.
Pretty standard for his CR, which is 27. Compared to Nocticula, he's a joke.Got it and wow I have to say it is awesome.What do Baphomet's stats look like?So it's obvious why she could so easily one-round or two-round him, then? What sort of unique abilities does he gain?
And is there the option for the PCs to confront and/or destroy him?
Oh yeah, Baph makes an appearance and as usual with demons with lots of hiit points, to get rid of him the party has better win initiative and all attack at once and do enough damage before he telleport away. Otherwise the chance is there to be rid of him.
So it's obvious why she could so easily one-round or two-round him, then? What sort of unique abilities does he gain?Pretty standard for his CR, which is 27. Compared to Nocticula, he's a joke.Got it and wow I have to say it is awesome.What do Baphomet's stats look like?
Nothing really good, which is why he is so "Eh..." compared to Nocticula, who can destroy a party just by standing around nearby and talking to herself.
And is there the option for the PCs to confront and/or destroy him?
Both is possible.
Though I guess attack spells off scrolls aren't nearly as cool - unless I'm mistaken, such spells would still use the low save DCs from the scrolls. A 27th level Wail of the Banshee or Weird isn't quite as scary if the DC is only 23ish.
Anyways, be damn sure to figure out what scrolls he's packing before you run an encounter with him!
Outside of the crazy scroll use, he merely hits hard with his glaive (2d8+55 with power attack and no buffs, if I did the math right) and a DC 32 caster level check is required to heal anyone he's struck with his glaive.
His anti-devil abilities wouldn't matter against PCs (unless someone's a hellknight, perhaps).
So yeah, other than Scroll Use, Baphomet doesn't have any combat abilities that're really "wait, he can do what?" abilities (like, for example, Sifkesh healing from being critted).
Heh. Baphomet's better at being impressive support than he is at being the primary muscle. Considering what's in his article about him, that actually makes sense. Dude's a lover*, not a fighter =D
*With all the horrible ramifications of the lover being Baphomet.
I'd hope Noct is better than BAphomet, considering there's a 3 CR difference between the two.
I think played tactically, Baphomet has the potential to be very scary. Especially after all the fights the players have to do.
It kind of makes sense that Baphomet wouldn't be *extremely* powerful, seeing as how he's more of a manipulator and cult-commander then anything else. But I hope he's not TOO much of a pushover; he plays a huge role in the campaign and has been getting hyped since book 1.
Maybe I'll just give him this, and he'll be fine.
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Let me just say... the idea that a CR 27 creature could be though of as a "pushover" is all sorts of amusing.
For what it's worth, I don't think he's a pushover at all. He's going to kill a lot of PCs if they're not careful. Against a party of 17th level tier 8 PCs, who should be facing CR 21 encounters, a fight against Baphomet should be akin to a group of 14th level characters fighting a balor. Not a guaranteed TPK, but good luck making it otherwise!
(note that in most demon fights you're not just fighting one demon... they tend to summon help!)
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I don't think he's a pushover. With a CR 3 lower than Nocticula I expected him to be greatly weaker than her, I wouldn't say he's a joke. Certainly my initial glance left me thinking he may be too easy, but having looked at his stats and abilities in more detail I think he has potential to be a vicious opponent and a memorable encounter - which he should be.
I'll be interested when I run this to see how the other encounters go. My initial impression are encounters range from way too easy to punishing, brutal beats. (spoilers because it hints at encounter types)
Similarly there are many encounters made up of groups of significantly lower CR - 12, 13 or 15 initially, but typically around 3 lower than the PC's level. Effectiveness here depends on how well rested the PC"s can be.
Need to digest it a bit more but it looks damned good. It has a more Abyssal feel than the previous volume and the enemies are hugely varied. I'm not sure why, but I'm a little disappointed in
On a last note anyone have any ideas for a unique look for the Balors of Baphomets realm? I have a few but would like to see what others envision.
Wow, wasn't expecting to...
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What do you learn about the latter? Very much please do tell.
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I'm a little underwhelmed (which in and of itself is surprising) by the first part of the adventure where
I would have figured that there would be at least some more detail on the kinds of responses Iomedae could give to probing questions. I know at least one player who would openly ask of her why she is not directly lending a hand in this. While I could imagine up an answer, I was curious what an official stance would be.
We know that Gods tend not to get involved in mortal affairs for fear of doomsday escalation of conflicts, but some context as to why they fear this or at least some more room for discourse would have been good.
For the first appearance of an actual God in a Pathfinder adventure, it left me feeling wanting. The descriptions of locations and effects were fine, but the actual content felt thin. I get that it wasn't the focus of the adventure, but that itself made it feel a little... superfluous?
Something felt absent from the meeting, I just can't put my finger on exactly what would have improved it on this first reading. Did anyone else feel this way?
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Aside from the above, this book is insane and excellent. I'm absolutely in love with the encounter with Alderpash, as well as the battle with the eponymous Herald of the Ivory Labyrinth. The entire mechanic with the heart is exactly something I like seeing.
Having just finished my first read-through I'm saying that this really feels like the climax (how can this really be topped), and aside from the awkward start I really enjoy it and can tell everyone involved had fun creating this adventure.
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Just got to perusing the bestiary, and the Vilsteth demon's art is strikingly reminiscent of the old rogue eidolon artwork from 3rd edition D&D. In fact when I was first scrolling through my PDF I thought that perhaps it was an updated version of the rogue eidolon.
I'm a little underwhelmed (which in and of itself is surprising) by the first part of the adventure where
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Just so others can noticed Baphomet is not given his mythic stats in this and they need to be applied, however in review of earlier demon lord stats they are not given mythic either. So DMs need to apply it to them when faced in their lair.
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Just so others can noticed Baphomet is not given his mythic stats in this and they need to be applied, however in review of earlier demon lord stats they are not given mythic either. So DMs need to apply it to them when faced in their lair.
His stats actually change very little. He gains a few new spell-like abilities and the like, but his actual numbers don't change.