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Ultimate Psionics is just that—the ultimate book on psionics, combining nearly all of the material in Psionics Unleashed and Psionics Expanded into a single hardcover book. But not only does Ultimate Psionics contain existing content, over seventy pages of brand new material has been added (separately released as Psionics Augmented for those who already have Psionics Unleashed and Psionics Expanded), giving more character options, advice for game masters on using psionics, and even an example of completely altering the theme of psionics from the power of the mind to runic magic, to help you understand how easy it is to change the feel of psionics without changing the system so that it can easily fit into any campaign.

Ultimate Psionics is an over-400 page hardcover book that includes:

  • Ten psionic races, including the brand new forgeborn and noral, with racial archetypes, advanced racial options, and more
  • Ten psionic classes from the psion and soulknife to the aegis and vitalist, giving everything you need to have an all-psionic party
  • Psionic skills and feats, including over forty brand new psionic feats such as Assassin's Venom, Deep Focus, and Telepathic Link
  • Over 100 pages of psionic powers, including 0th level psionic talents new powers like T’Nail’s Ardent Legion
  • Nineteen psionic prestige classes, including the brand new Dark Tempest prestige class
  • More psionic items than could ever be found in any treasure horde, including legendary items like the Heartstaff and the Dancing Robes of Sharatwan and over 10 pages of brand new psionic items like the greater psicrystal staff, the tactician's chessboard, and more.
  • An entire section for advice and tips for game masters on introducing and using psionics, including the most commonly encountered rules mistakes, how to handle transparency, and variant themes if you don't want mental power and prefer psionics to be a form of magic.
  • And much more!

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5/5 —

At the time of writing this review there are 10 reviews of it already. Plus each expansion has reviews and the first product has 13 reviews. There are threads on Paizo's forums and other places on the internet. The book is often on the top ten list of Paizo's third party sales. There are arguments about the power level and articles about it and the publishers have two more entire subsystems coming out with a Kickstarter money, forums of fans and is often quoted as the only third party publisher allowed at certain tables.

What the heck am I supposed to say after all that?! I can't review this. Its probably the most acclaimed third party product in all of Pathfinder. Everybody loves it, and if you don't you probably aren't going to be too thrilled with any other third party product or someone is going to come along to explain why you not liking it makes you a dirty poopy-head, and they're right! Well if you're okay with the very idea of psionics to begin with.

What's going on in this book is that it's a compilation of the psionic stuff that came out before it making for a fat book rivaling the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, detailing new races, new classes, magic items, feats, archetypes and prestige classes all supporting psionics. In fact it might as well be the core rulebook for psionics. If you get this book you have pretty much a core rulebook full of information on an entire class of magic and enough classes and subclasses and prestige classes and options to keep you busy for years.

But what are psionics? In a nutshell it's 'mind magic'. If you want to make a crystal ball massaging gypsy curse dealing psychic you're going to be disappointed. This is more like Esper or Psychic Pokemon variety mind magic making it feel kind of like psuedo-scientific ESP stuff than talking to spirits or new age tarot reading. But these guys aren't just bending spoons, they're generating mind-light sabers and shooting psychic lasers. This is all centered around a new way to cast their spell-like 'Powers' with a pool of points representing their psionic energy. Its a neat system, especially if you're tired of spell slots, but not each of the classes in here are based around the powers. you get a few that use their mind to do other things like create armor and weapons, plus you get some feats so anyone can tap into their mind and do a few tricks. Its a new world, a whole new way to play. Once you crack it open and start playing it's hard to dismiss. Its just a cool bunch of options.

So why did I buy this? What made me go "okay, I'm going to use this." Well for one you can see most of the options on d20pfsrd.com, which helps you figure out if you think this system is more broken than a core rulebook wizard. I went ahead and did the legwork of comparing the best powers to Magic spells and how well they can cast and found powers to be overall weaker than magic with superior casting options but way less variety so the strongest psionic class comes off about as powerful as a well made Sorcerer. I also liked having the option of presenting casting that felt less ole-timey for when I wanted to run a steampunk or space campaign. It's also the most 'complete' alternate system experience I've ever seen, and trying it with newer players they were able to pick it up much and understand it faster than vancian casting. So it won me over. Five stars all around. You just cant lose with this book.

Words can't describe.

5/5 —

This book is absolutely amazing. Dreamscarred Press show us once again that they're the undisputed masters of flavorful, balanced psionics. This beautiful book has a place of honor on my shelf right next to my Core Rulebook, and if I could only pick one rules supplement to use in a campaign, it would be this one by far.

The Essential Psionic Book

5/5 —

It's been said a hundred times, but Dreamscarred Press creates fantastic products. Where they shine the most is in their psionic material. This book is *the* book for psionics, hands down.

I don't have anything to add that's not already been said. So I'll keep this very short. This book's cover was done by Wayne Reynolds, appropriate for a book of this quality. However, plenty of the artwork in this book is less than stellar. I expected more from a giant of a 3pp company (as giant as they get, anyways).

Despite some of the underwhelming art, the text inside is filled with as much psionic crunch and flavor you could ever ask for. There's a reason this is the go to book for psionics. It has absolutely everything you need and more. If you're thinking about adding psionics to your game, don't wait. Get this book now!

Awesome Book!

5/5 —

Gotta say that having it in my hand makes it even more impressive than the PDF I fell in love with. Now that I can't rely on PDF word search I am really impressed by the formatting in the book.

Everything is easy to find. When I have a question it's very easy to find an appropriate answer by perusing the ToC. The title "Ultimate Psionics" really applies as just about all the character concepts I could want as a Pdionic can be made from all the Base Classes, Archetypes, and Prestige Classes detailed!

The only downside was that my mailman stuffed it too roughly into my mailbox and it bent in some of the back cover's corner. The damage is pretty minor and impossible to see on my bookshelf, so I'm not getting too down over it.

The only singular problem with this book is that the pages are a bit more fragile than I would like.

Edit: After about a year of using this book on the table I can say that it still deserves 5 stars, excellent book.

THE Definitive Psionics Book

4/5 —

This won't be a long review, because I can't compete with Endzeitgeist's excellent reviews. It's really a small list of glitches that affected my impressions of the books.

First, the good stuff. Fixes to original base classes are great and were necessary, as well as changing some of the feats and the addition of 0 level powers. All good. The expanded list of powers is amazing, and the new classes, for the most part, are pretty interesting. More on that in a second.

The artwork is good, not stellar but, but good. My only gripe with it is once again a female ophiduan was shown with hair and breasts. They're reptiles for Pete's sake, and it clearly says in their description they are hairless. Grr.

There are an uncomfortable number of typos and some awkward sentence structuring, but it's easy enough to extrapolate what's being said in each case. I wish that they'd proofread things a bit more thoroughly.

My biggest "gripe" is the Dread seems unnecessary in my book. It's focus is very narrow and would've made a better psion prestige class, in my opinion, just as the marksman would've been a better psychic warrior PrC.

Overall I'm going to give the book 4 stars, largely for the truly amazing amount of work that went into it. But the glaring typos and curvaceous ophiduan really bugged me.

Addendum. I received two copies 4 days apart with the same order number, though I only purchased one. I've been in touch with Paizo Customer Service and as soon as I get paid I'll be sending the extra copy back so that someone else might enjoy it.

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Sovereign Court

Wow this went from Preorder to unavailable, any news to share about it?
Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Probably they sold out of their contingent of printed books.
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

I''m not sure what that means, but I've emailed.

Will Herolab(TM) be supporting this book?
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Herolab just released a new version that includes the basic foundation for psionics in it. I'm currently in the process of working with a couple of individuals so that the existing files for Psionics Unleashed will be compatible with the new version and not using the previous workarounds that were required.

Once that's good, then I'll be expanding and revising to all of the Ultimate Psionics content. It will be slow going due to my day job and school, but in the end it will be all there and the plan is to have it available through the Herolab updates mechanism.

TC
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Great news, Arknight! :)

Is that under the d20 or the Pathfinder license?
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
Hayato Ken wrote:
Is that under the d20 or the Pathfinder license?

It's under Pathfinder.

Psionics is already enabled / supported under d20, but using the 3.5 rules. We worked with Wolf Lair to get psionic support in the Pathfinder license.

Nice. Just what i´m waiting for^^
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Cylerist wrote:
Wow this went from Preorder to unavailable, any news to share about it?

It's fixed now. It's because we had expected to have it released by February 1, but the print proof needed a revision.

Sovereign Court
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Cylerist wrote:
Wow this went from Preorder to unavailable, any news to share about it?
It's fixed now. It's because we had expected to have it released by February 1, but the print proof needed a revision.

Great I just preordered my color copy

Silver Crusade

Get it perfect, Jeremy.

Reviewed first on Endzeitgeist.com, then submitted to Nerdtrek and GMS magazine and posted here, on OBS and d20pfsrd.com's shop.
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Thanks, End! Very much appreciated!

Any update on when print pre-orders should ship?
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Atavar wrote:
Any update on when print pre-orders should ship?

As soon as we get them in the warehouse. :D

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I just did my preorder, and the Endzeitgeist review was spectacular; I'm so looking forward to this, even though it'll likely be a few months before I'm able to make use of it (I'm currently GMing an Adventure Path, and we just started it).

SOOOO excited!
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4
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This is going to be a noob question, so I am embarrassed to ask.

However, if I preorder a copy does my card get charged when it ships? Or right away?

Does that answer change if I preorder a PDF bundle?

Admittedly, I have been fairly "hands off" this book, but Endzeitgeist has convinced me that maybe my serpentfolk need it.
Liberty's Edge

I have the pre-order pdf from the color bundle but I don't recall a charge.
Dark Archive Customer Service Representative

Hey there Jim,

When you place an order with Paizo we authorize your payment method, but do not charge until your order is processed for shipping (or is downloadable in the case of PDFs). The only exception to this is Print/PDF Bundles, where you are charged for the item when the PDF becomes downloadable, but we do not charge you the S&H cost until your Print version is processed for shipping.

For a preorder, the physical item won't be processed until after the item is off of preorder in our system.

~Justin Riddler
Customer Service
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4

Thanks Justin!
Liz Courts wrote:
Atavar wrote:
Any update on when print pre-orders should ship?
As soon as we get them in the warehouse. :D

I meant, what is the estimated shipment date at this point?

I already assumed you wouldn't get it in the warehouse and then just hold on to them for some random amount of time....
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Atavar wrote:

I meant, what is the estimated shipment date at this point?

I already assumed you wouldn't get it in the warehouse and then just hold on to them for some random amount of time....

I don't have an expected date for this, as it's outside of our normal distribution chain and isn't published by us. Original estimates put it at the end of January, but there were some delays and I don't have new information. If I get that information, I'll add it, otherwise, what is on the page is what I have.

Jeremy has been making a lot of updates in a lot of places. Last I recall, he requested a couple changes in the first proof book he got, the printer made a second proof, and Jeremy has requested a couple more changes. Long story short is I think the print run is days from approval if it's not already approved. I think he was last talking about DSP getting the shipment roughly end-of-February, which would then presumably take a couple/few weeks to get to distribution/Paizo.

Point is it's coming shortly. The content is complete so it's just printing and shipping involved AFAIK, and since it's being printed in continental US, shipping won't be lengthy and there are no customs delays.
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.

Can you say anything about when copies ship to Europe?

This is probably obvious and i'm stupid but.
Is this 3rd party or is this official paizo? I thought Psionics unleashed etc was 3rd party but the title "Ultimate" confuses me I guess.
I ask cause our group usually only uses the stuff on the main paizo website (core. apg, adv race, ultimate magic/combat)
Liberty's Edge
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Zwordsman wrote:

This is probably obvious and i'm stupid but.

Is this 3rd party or is this official paizo? I thought Psionics unleashed etc was 3rd party but the title "Ultimate" confuses me I guess.
I ask cause our group usually only uses the stuff on the main paizo website (core. apg, adv race, ultimate magic/combat)

This is a 3rd party (Dreamscarred Press) product, an update/rework of the 3.5 psionics rules to fit Paizo's update of the core 3.5 rules. The authors (of which I am *not* one, just to be clear) have tried to follow Paizo's design philosophy to make a psionics product that is Pathfinder-compatible. It is not, however, a Paizo product despite aligning with PF extremely well. IMHO.

These may be stupid questions, but I feel the need to ask them anyway -

1. Are the Print/PDF bundles only available during the preorder, or will they still be available after the physical books start shipping? And if they will still be available, will it still be the same price?

2. Is the color copy a limited run?

I ask because I don't have the money to put down for a preorder now, but I would like to get the color bundle eventually. If the color books are going to be a limited run, then that means I need to be more aggressive in setting aside funds to buy my copy. Likewise with the Print/PDF bundle being preorder-only or seeing a price increase upon physical release.
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4
Unruly wrote:
These may be stupid questions, but I feel the need to ask them anyway -

Not dumb questions as far as I am concerned. I was wondering the same things.

So looking forward to the Herolab version of this!
Looks like we´ll be running a whole AP with mainly psionics only soon.
(Yes the Kingmaker in the desert thing^^)
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
Unruly wrote:

These may be stupid questions, but I feel the need to ask them anyway -

1. Are the Print/PDF bundles only available during the preorder, or will they still be available after the physical books start shipping? And if they will still be available, will it still be the same price?

2. Is the color copy a limited run?

I ask because I don't have the money to put down for a preorder now, but I would like to get the color bundle eventually. If the color books are going to be a limited run, then that means I need to be more aggressive in setting aside funds to buy my copy. Likewise with the Print/PDF bundle being preorder-only or seeing a price increase upon physical release.

Preorders prior to the release of the PDF got the PDF at no charge (so $79.95 got you the print + PDF).

The options now (PDF only, print only, or PDF/Print bundles) will not be changing / going away. You're already paying $10 extra for the PDF, we don't plan on raising that rate.

The color copy is not a limited run. It's actually the version that's going out to stores. The B&W copy is only going to be found on our direct vendors (here at Paizo, d20pfsrd, DriveThruRPG, our own site) and will not be out in stores.
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.
Can you say anything about when copies ship to Europe?

If you mean to stores in Europe - it depends on if they place orders through a distributor that orders from our distribution partner, Studio 2 Publishing.

If you mean to Paizo customers in Europe, I can't answer that question, but would assume the answer is "as soon as we have stock in the warehouse."

If you mean Kickstarter backers in Europe, the answer is, as soon as I can. I've been getting those orders processed, but I have to do one by one and it's just me doing it, so it's a lot of work and it's a very manual and time-consuming process.

Wow... psionics :) I've missed those! This might be the one to convince me to take the 3rd party product plunge. Are there psionic character sheets for download somewhere official-ish? Are there new traits in this book?
Liberty's Edge

Hey Jeremy! Are you planning on making it to PaizoCon this year?

Off topic:
Also, I sent you an e-mail :)

Jeremy Smith wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.
Can you say anything about when copies ship to Europe?

If you mean to stores in Europe - it depends on if they place orders through a distributor that orders from our distribution partner, Studio 2 Publishing.

If you mean to Paizo customers in Europe, I can't answer that question, but would assume the answer is "as soon as we have stock in the warehouse."

If you mean Kickstarter backers in Europe, the answer is, as soon as I can. I've been getting those orders processed, but I have to do one by one and it's just me doing it, so it's a lot of work and it's a very manual and time-consuming process.

I was hoping for Amazon, at least.

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Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.
Can you say anything about when copies ship to Europe?

If you mean to stores in Europe - it depends on if they place orders through a distributor that orders from our distribution partner, Studio 2 Publishing.

If you mean to Paizo customers in Europe, I can't answer that question, but would assume the answer is "as soon as we have stock in the warehouse."

If you mean Kickstarter backers in Europe, the answer is, as soon as I can. I've been getting those orders processed, but I have to do one by one and it's just me doing it, so it's a lot of work and it's a very manual and time-consuming process.

I was hoping for Amazon, at least.

Ah, that we are working on, but as it's the first time we've had to be a vendor through Amazon instead of using their printing service, I'm not sure on the time it takes to get that all set up. (Their printing service doesn't do hard cover.)

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
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Torbyne wrote:
Wow... psionics :) I've missed those! This might be the one to convince me to take the 3rd party product plunge. Are there psionic character sheets for download somewhere official-ish? Are there new traits in this book?

Yes, there are character sheets - and they're free!

Yes, there are new traits in the book.
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
Marc Radle wrote:
Hey Jeremy! Are you planning on making it to PaizoCon this year?

I'm afraid not. Our big convention trip this year is GenCon.

Jeremy Smith wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Copies should be arriving at Paizo next week, weather permitting.
Can you say anything about when copies ship to Europe?

If you mean to stores in Europe - it depends on if they place orders through a distributor that orders from our distribution partner, Studio 2 Publishing.

If you mean to Paizo customers in Europe, I can't answer that question, but would assume the answer is "as soon as we have stock in the warehouse."

If you mean Kickstarter backers in Europe, the answer is, as soon as I can. I've been getting those orders processed, but I have to do one by one and it's just me doing it, so it's a lot of work and it's a very manual and time-consuming process.

I was hoping for Amazon, at least.
Ah, that we are working on, but as it's the first time we've had to be a vendor through Amazon instead of using their printing service, I'm not sure on the time it takes to get that all set up. (Their printing service doesn't do hard cover.)

Good to hear that. :)

Jeremy Smith wrote:

Preorders prior to the release of the PDF got the PDF at no charge (so $79.95 got you the print + PDF).

The options now (PDF only, print only, or PDF/Print bundles) will not be changing / going away. You're already paying $10 extra for the PDF, we don't plan on raising that rate.

The color copy is not a limited run. It's actually the version that's going out to stores. The B&W copy is only going to be found on our direct vendors (here at Paizo, d20pfsrd, DriveThruRPG, our own site) and will not be out in stores.

Whew. That means I can take my time then. Tax season is not a good time for me, and knowing that I'll be able to save for a copy at a slower pace is a good thing.

Webstore Gninja Minion
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Looky looky what showed up in our warehouse. :D

Jeremy, does this mean those of us who supported the kick starter should start expecting a huge box at our doors?

Saint Bernard

Must. Not. Buy. Another. Copy.

oh great, now to wonder, is it faster to order online or pester all the local stores about when they'll get a copy in...
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Saint Bernard wrote:

Jeremy, does this mean those of us who supported the kick starter should start expecting a huge box at our doors?

Saint Bernard

I have been getting copies shipped to backers, is just slow going since there are so many orders to process.

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Torbyne wrote:
oh great, now to wonder, is it faster to order online or pester all the local stores about when they'll get a copy in...

Stores won't be getting copies for a few more months, I'm afraid.

The color hardcover it's listed as backorder atm.
Does it means it is already sold out?

And if so, when are new copies going to be aviable?
Publisher, Dreamscarred Press
Geppou wrote:

The color hardcover it's listed as backorder atm.

Does it means it is already sold out?

And if so, when are new copies going to be aviable?

Quite a few copies were damaged in transit. We're trying to get that resolved.

0.0

How many have been mailed out?
Will we get a notification when ours has been shipped?
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