KAER MAGA MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell yea!
What size are these? I'm not overly familiar with map packs but I must admit this one looks rather good.
The Map Folios are 8-panel maps, so they're roughly 22x34 inches. There are three poster maps in this Map Folio.
Preordered... Loved the Skull & Shackles one! The player handout was an instant success. Took the PDF to Kinko's and printed it off in full res on nice parchment. The players had a fun time filling it out and adding notes.
I hope the inclusion of a Kaer Maga map means that city will be featured prominently in the AP :)
I hope the inclusion of a Kaer Maga map means that city will be featured prominently in the AP :)
Cover image and product description updated to final.
Are the maps still not the proper size for to put miniatures on them?
This is honestly the biggest weakness of the Map Folio so far, and one of the good thing DnD 4 does.
I have absolutely no doubt that you would sell those packs a LOT more if they contained 1 or 2 double sided miniatures sized map, of the "Key" encounters.
Per the product description, this map folio includes: a ink-and-parchment style map of Varisia, a map of Magnimar, and a map of Kaer Maga. The best usage for these maps are as large-scale player-friendly handouts for the Shattered Star Adventure Path.
Are the maps still not the proper size for to put miniatures on them?
Someone far less lazy than I am should work out how big a map of Kaer Maga (or Magnimar, I'm not picky) would have to be if scaled for miniatures (1" = 5'.)
Are the maps still not the proper size for to put miniatures on them?Someone far less lazy than I am should work out how big a map of Kaer Maga (or Magnimar, I'm not picky) would have to be if scaled for miniatures (1" = 5'.)
Danged big.
Are the maps still not the proper size for to put miniatures on them?
This is honestly the biggest weakness of the Map Folio so far, and one of the good thing DnD 4 does.
I have absolutely no doubt that you would sell those packs a LOT more if they contained 1 or 2 double sided miniatures sized map, of the "Key" encounters.
I agree the inclusion of miniature maps is one of the areas in which WotC modules are superior to Paizo ones (one of the few, in my opinion).
Having said that, I'm not convinced they'd automatically sell better. I'd like to see them test the waters with one of the map folios - perhaps including one double sided miniature scale map and two or three of the "usual" poster maps.
The more frequent tie-ins with the map-packs and flipmats is a decent alternative, but I'd love to get some of those really specific locations as well and the map folio seems like a perfect place (whilst perhaps also broadening their appeal).
This release has been moved to our February 2013 shipment.
What product of WotC has miniature-scale maps of an entire city? (or country/region = Varisia)
If you need a combat map for an encounter in some random intersection of town, Paizo has urban map packs for that.
These maps seems just as useful for players as real-world atlases and street maps of cities are for real-world people.
It would be nice to have combat maps for unique locales, which may even be of larger scale than the simple map packs cover,
but that would be a secondary concept to the one this product is doing, so I don't see the basis for comparison.
What product of WotC has miniature-scale maps of an entire city? (or country/region = Varisia)
If you need a combat map for an encounter in some random intersection of town, Paizo has urban map packs for that.
These maps seems just as useful for players as real-world atlases and street maps of cities are for real-world people.
It would be nice to have combat maps for unique locales, which may even be of larger scale than the simple map packs cover,
but that would be a secondary concept to the one this product is doing, so I don't see the basis for comparison.
I'm not sure if you're responding to me or not, but I agree that the map packs/flip mats are a decent option - especially given the shift towards including crossovers between the various lines.
What I'd like to see is the inclusion of an AP-specific battlemat for a climactic scene in an AP (like the fight against Ghartok in LoF, for example). A setting with limited generic usefulness but for which a battlemap would (hopefully) add to the occasion.
One problem I have with this line is that occasionally there seem to be "filler maps" (including two functionally identical maps in the Skulls and Shackles folio, for example). It's one of the most often complained about products in Paizo's offerings, so perhaps experimenting/tweaking is warranted.
These maps are actually better than the ones for Skull & Shackles in that place names are on them. The ink–and–parchment style one is as beautiful as the Shackles one and also has place names. This is a definite improvement. Good job!
Having samples of the maps would have been very helpful - I'd love to have another map of Magnimar for my RotRL campaign, but if it's a similar map as the one that was included in the interactive map PDF from the anniversary edition then there isn't really much point.
Having samples of the maps would have been very helpful - I'd love to have another map of Magnimar for my RotRL campaign, but if it's a similar map as the one that was included in the interactive map PDF from the anniversary edition then there isn't really much point.
I have both, and the Map Folio map of Magnimar is far more detailed with 94 locations in the city marked, as well as major street names.
I have both, and the Map Folio map of Magnimar is far more detailed with 94 locations in the city marked, as well as major street names.
Brilliant! What kind of things are labelled? Is the map something you could show the players without having labels like "nefarious hideout" or "secret Thieves Guild" causing chuckles?
Brilliant! What kind of things are labelled? Is the map something you could show the players without having labels like "nefarious hideout" or "secret Thieves Guild" causing chuckles?
Nope, it's player friendly all the way. Just famous landmarks or places that locals could tell you about.
You just got Paizo another sale Feros, thank you :)
These maps should almost be called "Varisian Campaign Map Folio," as they really aren't campaign specific.
Is the Kaer Maga map just a large version of the Kaer Maga map in City of Strangers?
Is the Kaer Maga map just a large version of the Kaer Maga map in City of Strangers?
It has all the same locations, but it is a different map. Each district is colour coded and the places marked are given a number. That number is indexed to the side so the map is a lot clearer than the one from City of Strangers.
Cool. Thanks. Might have to pick this one up (as I love poster city maps, and an improved/clearer map of Kaer Maga is definitely useful)...
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Are the maps still not the proper size for to put miniatures on them?Someone far less lazy than I am should work out how big a map of Kaer Maga (or Magnimar, I'm not picky) would have to be if scaled for miniatures (1" = 5'.)
Just for reference, if you presume that a city is a mile across (some are smaller, but others are a lot bigger), that's 5280 feet. Divide that by 5-foot squares, and you need 1056 one-inch squares. Divide that by 12 (inches to feet), and you're looking at a battlemap that's 88 FEET to a side.
So, yeah... I guess someone somewhere might be able to print a minis-scale city map for us, but you'd need to play your game in some sort of sports arena to actually unroll it. (And if anyone ever does this, please send us pictures!)
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Kudos. This is the first poster map folio I've gotten (and I have the all as a long-time subscriber) where I've found all the maps useful. I especially appreciate the player-friendly map of Varisia.
I still think the slipcover (or whatever you call it) should have pockets to help keep the maps in place.
-Skeld
