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You should read the description. Every playable race in the entire game will be in this book.
Plus new ones you can make from scratch.
I hope we'll also get ways to 'translate' races from 3rd party products into being Pathfinder-legal. I like some of them, even if a few seem overly powerful.
Really this does look like something I'll vastly enjoy. Thank you, Paizo.
>>Lastly, the Advanced Race Guide includes an extensive section that allows players and GMs to build their own custom races, either to emulate more powerful creatures that already exist in the game or to create wholly original characters unique to their campaign.<<
Really liking this part. I enjoy creating my own worlds with different races. Just as an example, I have one world with a race of halfling sized mouse people. Another with a pterodactyly like race. And so on, etc etc blah blah.
And while I think I can create pretty balanced races on my own simply using the ones that already exist in the CRB as a guide, it's awesome to finally have an "extensive" section of advice and guidance from professionals who've been doing this as a living for a long time.
So yeah. Definitely buying this. :D
I am looking forward to the playtest announcement. I really want to get my hands on that stuff.
Can't wait to see the Dhampir stuff.
I am looking forward to the playtest announcement. I really want to get my hands on that stuff.
Same here
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I am looking forward to the playtest announcement. I really want to get my hands on that stuff.I don't see this as a product that they would playtest, It is more like an Bestiary type product, which they don't playtest.
last line of the current description says the race building rules will be the next major open playtest.
Don't they already have some of these races in the bestiaries, like the drow and grippli? Am I missing something?
Its for racial options for those races
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OK. Thanks!
Its for racial options for those races
A wish list is being compiled in the "Advanced Race Guide" Wish List thread
Read and enjoy peoples thoughts on their wishes
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Boy I so read that wrong at fist.
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I can't wait for this book!!
I have never been someone that dips outside the "core 7" races (I've only played elves, sometimes half elves & humans) but I cannot wait for more racial archetypes!
I am also way excited for mermaid options. Can they shapeshift to legs now, making them playable outside an aquatic game? We will have to see! (There are always the aquatic nymphs to use instead.)
Anyway, I saw the cover in my email notice for this announcement (if that is the cover. It's different from this mockup, which is from the Core book I believe) & love it.
Excited about elves & mermaids especially, but overall just psyched for this.
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You are not alone.
Will this product include material from the "Pathfinder Companion: <Race> of Golarion" products?
It's a possibility.
A wish list is being compiled in the "Advanced Race Guide" Wish List thread
If you wish it, it may come true.
I believe we have tons of options for the "core" races. I really want to see more options for the other races like the elemental touched races, the dhampyrs, etc. Then this book will be worth my money :D
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The Beastary 3 is 320 pages, the Advanced Race Guide 256 pages. 64 pages LESS then the Beastary 3. But both retail for the same price.Who said it was 64 pages? Since it is a hardback book I imagine it will be at least 200 pages.So this has 64 pages less the the just announced Beastary 3. But both retail for $39.99.
Should'nt it be less?
Ah ok my mistake, I misread what you said, sorry. Teach me from posting at nearly 5am my time.
As for why. Well other than art, I am not sure the cost of producing and printing a book of those sizes would be much different. Plus as someone else said I imagine they will print fewer as likely less will buy it.
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They're called races in the game, so the word "race" is going to be in the title of the book.
In fact, the title of the book is going to be "Advanced Race Guide".
Given that EVERY SINGLE PC-appropriate race will be included in this book, they all get to be "advanced" races together.
Does that mean that a black dragon or an aboleth or something might get offended because it is not "advanced"?
Probably.
So be it. I am not afraid of them, because they are imaginary.
I'm imaginary? Hmmmm....
Chief Technical Officer
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The Beastary 3 is 320 pages, the Advanced Race Guide 256 pages. 64 pages LESS then the Beastary 3. But both retail for the same price.Ah ok my mistake, I misread what you said, sorry. Teach me from posting at nearly 5am my time.
As for why. Well other than art, I am not sure the cost of producing and printing a book of those sizes would be much different. Plus as someone else said I imagine they will print fewer as likely less will buy it.
Well, we could charge $44.99 for the Bestiary 3 if you'd prefer.
I'm only half kidding. In theory, anything could be priced at any amount, but there's a much smaller number of potential price points that actually make sense for consumer products due to perceived distinction. That is, most purchasers don't see a lot of difference between, say, $40.00 and $44.99, but, to many people, $45 "feels" noticeably more expensive. (In lower price tiers, increments smaller than $5 have perceived distinction, and in higher price tiers, the increment can be much larger.)
Realistically, then, the price points that make sense in that range are $34.99, $39.99, and $44.99.
$34.99 is too cheap given our cost of goods even for the 256-pagers, and $44.99 is too expensive given our cost of goods even for the 320-pager (because higher prices can mean lower sales). $39.99 gives us an acceptable margin on both (though obviously a slightly lower margin on the larger book).
I'm definitely interested :) And glad it's a year away ... far too many other PF books to get before it ;)
I'm definitely interested :) And glad it's a year away ... far too many other PF books to get before it ;)
So true
Finally. The Aasimar gets some love. I just hope they have a lifespan as long as the half-elf.
OK. Thanks!Don't they already have some of these races in the bestiaries, like the drow and grippli? Am I missing something?Its for racial options for those races
I think the guidelines found in the bestiaries for these races, however, lend themselves to a playable PC:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/monsters-as-pcs
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OK, it had to happen.
Not interested. Also, would be a sad panda if supporting cast NPCs of exotic races would become suddenly more frequent than the current rare/thematically appropriate (eg. tieflings in CoT) as a consequence.
+1
But this being a non Golarion specific book I doubt there will be a sudden rise of non basic races in the Golarion specific stuff. At least I hope not. And I pretty much do not allow any of the non basic races in my game unless there is a really good reason for a player to be playing one.
Regardless I will buy it through my subscription as I do own all of the Piazo3.5 and Pathfiner materials.
We need some kind of dragon race! No not lizard folk. Dragons are completely different from reptiles.
The return of the Draconic template anyone
or we could just have a Dragon-touched race.Put it in the "Advanced Race Guide" Wish List
I've already put this in the wish list, but I'd like to see a playable construct race. I wouldn't mind if it had some kind of LA, I just want to a construct. Perhaps playable clockworks?
What are the odds that the "spotlight" races will be playable in PFS?
Stupid 8-ball!
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What are the odds that the "spotlight" races will be playable in PFS?
I hope there's a race powered by gunpowder that shoots bullets out of its eyes. I'm gonna make mine a magus.
Long wait but worth it for some monstrous humanoid playable races.
Must buy. 'Nuff Said.
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I am looking forward to the playtest announcement. I really want to get my hands on that stuff.Can't wait to see the Dhampir stuff.
Landon Bellavia is working on a dhampir supplement for Raging Swan which is designed as a player options type product. If you are after dhampir stuff, you should definitely check it out! It should be out in a couple of months.
What no Thundarians?
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Ha ha ha!
Will this product include material from the "Pathfinder Companion: <Race> of Golarion" products?
This isn't about Golarion, so I guess not. Except maybe a few traits.
I wonder if a playtest of the Advanced Race Guide will allow us to test out some of the new racial options paizo is cooking up.
I hope the heritor feat hierarchy, I proposed in the first post gets considered.
Corrected:
I hope the heritor feat hierarchy, I proposed in the first post of the Advanced Races Guide Wish list thread gets considered.
Also I want to see the ubue, or some other playable large sized and/or powerful build like race like the Goliath
I personally think Powerful Build is too powerful to be a Racial Trait. I don't like it on the Half-Giant (Dreamscarred Press) and I wouldn't like it on any other race.
Now, a feat that granted Powerful Build, that I could get behind.