WampaX |
Just wanted to let people know that at least two of us with a Subscription have experienced unwanted add-ons to our orders (additional cases).
So double check and make sure your pre-shipping email is content correct.
WampaX |
Yes, I ran into the same thing. I had an additional booster case and an additional huge case. It is actually the reason I had called Paizo earlier on.
So with 3 people getting additional unwanted cases added to their orders, this is no longer a coincidence and should be upgraded to a pattern.
Hobbun |
Hobbun wrote:Yes, I ran into the same thing. I had an additional booster case and an additional huge case. It is actually the reason I had called Paizo earlier on.So with 3 people getting additional unwanted cases added to their orders, this is no longer a coincidence and should be upgraded to a pattern.
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I should add, the Paizo employee indicated that even though it was being shown in my confirmation email that I was being charged for the additional cases, the way the software is set up, and their procedure on shipping, from what he was seeing the the cases would have been sent for free in the end. Doh! He thanked me for letting them know. *grumble*
But don’t ask me how he came to that conclusion, I don’t understand it myself.
Hobbun |
You mean ‘full-blown battle case’ as in a bundle? Both booster case and huge case?
All told, I’ve ordered two bundles from Paizo, and one more booster case from another seller (which is the one arriving today). So will have a total of 3 Rune Giants.
On another note, I’ve seen the boxing for the Rune Giant and don’t really like it as much as the one for the Black Dragon. It just looks like an oversized huge box. I was hoping for different packaging with another windowed box.
In the end it doesn’t make too much difference as the box gets tossed anyways, but have always appreciated even the smaller nuances of good packaging. :)
Charles Scholz |
Just got my case from my game store. Wow. A case of small and a seperate case of large, plus the huge. When I got back to work, I found my order was ready to ship. Why did the game store get it before Paizo was able to ship?
Narl |
I just opened a case bundle I had ordered from my local shop. I did get a complete set. It seems there is little difference in frequency between the commons and uncommons. For example, I have four of Ameiko but only one harpy. So, I have a lot of characters and very few of the common monsters, which is a little disappointing.
The figures look great, even better than H&M!
Deanoth |
I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the point of sale that the FLGS has to sell the cases at. I ordered a standard booster case and a huge case from my FLGS and I paid $511.68 and $158.32 for the Huge case.
A couple of points here. I subscribe to Pathfinder through Paizo as you can tell so I can support my favorite lines and Pathfinder in general not to mention getting the discounts I do through having the Adventure Path line along with the free PDF's. But I want to support my local game store as well too. IN doing this I ordered the minis through them thinking I would be getting them at $519.98 and not the $661.62 that I ended up paying. With the shipping discounts and the like I could get the case bundle from Paizo at a MUCH MUCH cheaper price then the local game store.
I would basically save nearly $133.64 and that is WITH the shipping added in to it (or close to it).
I am not sure what the benefit it is to buy it through the local game store at all is as opposed to buying it through Paizo. My FLGS was upset to say the least!!!! (The Source in St Paul MN) as they are thinking why should they support any of the miniature line now considering they feel like they are either ripping their customers off or are getting ripped off.
If the brick and mortar stores HAVE to buy them at a cost that forces them to sell them at a non-discounted price, I have a feeling you are going to loose the stores as a customer in more ways then just miniature lines. The Source was starting to question why they are even carrying the books at this point... I am hoping it is a NECA/Wizkids thing and not a Paizo thing as I told them, but if it is a Paizo thing this could really really go a long way to ruining some good customer service that you had previously with them.
Not to mention as a customer you are coming dangerously close to loosing me and some friends as customers too. To see the $519.98 cost on the site and then to go to the local store and get charged $661.62 is way beyond ridiculous!
bigkilla |
I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the point of sale that the FLGS has to sell the cases at. I ordered a standard booster case and a huge case from my FLGS and I paid $511.68 and $158.32 for the Huge case.
A couple of points here. I subscribe to Pathfinder through Paizo as you can tell so I can support my favorite lines and Pathfinder in general not to mention getting the discounts I do through having the Adventure Path line along with the free PDF's. But I want to support my local game store as well too. IN doing this I ordered the minis through them thinking I would be getting them at $519.98 and not the $661.62 that I ended up paying. With the shipping discounts and the like I could get the case bundle from Paizo at a MUCH MUCH cheaper price then the local game store.
I would basically save nearly $133.64 and that is WITH the shipping added in to it (or close to it).
I am not sure what the benefit it is to buy it through the local game store at all is as opposed to buying it through Paizo. My FLGS was upset to say the least!!!! (The Source in St Paul MN) as they are thinking why should they support any of the miniature line now considering they feel like they are either ripping their customers off or are getting ripped off.
If the brick and mortar stores HAVE to buy them at a cost that forces them to sell them at a non-discounted price, I have a feeling you are going to loose the stores as a customer in more ways then just miniature lines. The Source was starting to question why they are even carrying the books at this point... I am hoping it is a NECA/Wizkids thing and not a Paizo thing as I told them, but if it is a Paizo thing this could really really go a long way to ruining some good customer service that you had previously with them.
Not to mention as a customer you are coming dangerously close to loosing me and some friends as customers too. To see the $519.98 cost on the site and then to go to the local store and get charged $661.62 is way beyond ridiculous!
Pretty much the reason I cancelled my mini sub from Paizo and went with a different online seller.The online store I bought my Pathfinder Battles "Rise of the Runelords" Standard + Huge Case Combo (With Huge Rune Giant Promo) - $424.99. I cannot see buying from Paizo and paying a extra 100$ plus the price of the Rune Giant.
Deanoth |
The Heroes and Monsters set I bought at the same FLGS as the above, I paid the set cost that was set on Paizo.. I was happy with that. I did not get the deep discount that I would have got through paizo but none the less I was still happy to pay it.
The Rise of the Runelords miniatures there is NO discount offered to the brick and mortar stores at all, Why is that? when you offer the discounts from one set to the local game stores but not the newest one??
Very confusing and disappointing!!
Cpt_kirstov |
The Heroes and Monsters set I bought at the same FLGS as the above, I paid the set cost that was set on Paizo.. I was happy with that. I did not get the deep discount that I would have got through paizo but none the less I was still happy to pay it.
The Rise of the Runelords miniatures there is NO discount offered to the brick and mortar stores at all, Why is that? when you offer the discounts from one set to the local game stores but not the newest one??
Very confusing and disappointing!!
Considering I saw the invoice as I work at a store that sells them:
1) These came in at the same or better profit margin as H&M did, so if the store decided not to discount preorders or case orders, that was the store's decision, Its not like matching the 15% off would put them in the red on it.
2) the 15% off you see is the same as you see for any other product in the paizo store, it is a perk of being an ap subscriber, and has been in place for 5 years without stores complaining.
3) Once you get over the sticker shock, the full price ROTRL case still comes in cheaper per figure than the 15% off H&M set
4) The store chose not to match the online price(s) when you provided them, which would still give them the same profit margin of most collectors edition action figures.
The distributor priced these weird for the stores, and only offered them in bricks instead of cases in the order form, which makes it look like a smaller profit margin than it is.
Sorry, Im not trying to attack the store, and i can see how the above could sound that way. But matching the online price would still net the store a bigger profit than most games items do, AND there is no MSRP on the individual packs set by wizkids so its not like they can say they're only trying to sell at MSRP, because there is none. Heck, our Alliance distributor couldn't even tell the store what the cost of a case would be until the invoice came in (but that could be our Alliance rep)
Hobbun |
Just to clarify, you should receive your Paizo shipment of your minis by Friday (Not sure if you ordered from someplace else)?
I didn’t ship UPS, I went through the cheapest shipping option. It was a big enough hit on my wallet even with the cheapest option.
Hmmm, maybe I’ll get the minis sooner than I expected. *crosses fingers*
Also, I’m supposed to get my first Rune Giant today. :)
Hobbun |
I have a two case bundle subscription set up with Paizo, but I ordered a third booster case (w/Rune Giant) from a third party seller, as well.
Ironically, I received my booster case yesterday from the other seller and my Rune Giant is coming today (actually, it has already arrived, I just need to pick it up).
Not even sure if my Paizo shipment has left yet. They send you an email letting you know it’s shipped, correct? I think I will give them a call today and see if they can check, but not sure if they are able as I didn’t choose a tracking option. Shipping cost for that is just too expensive. It’s expensive enough as is with the cheapest option.
Mine all mine...don't touch |
Got my case today missing FOUR! Including the two I most wanted! Runelord Karzoug, and WarChief Ripnugget. Really disappointed considering we were told a case should be missing ONE figure. Fourth brick entirely duplicates! Feel like I kind of wasted money. Will be thinking twice on the next set if this is the way it's going to go.
Anguish |
Got my case today missing FOUR! Including the two I most wanted! Runelord Karzoug, and WarChief Ripnugget. Really disappointed considering we were told a case should be missing ONE figure. Fourth brick entirely duplicates! Feel like I kind of wasted money. Will be thinking twice on the next set if this is the way it's going to go.
What very likely happened is human error at the factory end. Likely you ended up with bricks A, B, C, and C where you should have had A, B, C and D.
When Paizo says they shoot for 90%+ completion rate, I believe them. That doesn't mean there can't be exceptions - and I'm sure it totally, utterly sucks to be that guy - but until we have mass reports, it's a fluke.
Mine all mine...don't touch |
Let me be clear here, these figures are really really good looking and I want a full set and will buy the ones I'm missing I just feel that maybe the whole case deal isn't the best route. I am willing to entertain that I was unfortuneatly THAT guy. But yes it still sucks. No hard feelings just a pain in the wallet.
Hobbun |
To be honest, if you are aiming for complete sets for future sets that are released, buying by the case is definitely your best option.
Unless you go into a retailer and buy all the single booster packs/bricks that came out of the same case, you most likely will fall well short of a complete set and it will be much worse than missing four minis.
So I would definitely stay with the cases. Again, if you are going for complete sets.
Deanoth |
My list so far.
Unique
Rune Giant - 1
Festering Spirit (Convention Promo) (waiting for it to go on sale)
Common
Denizen of Leng - 3
Faceless Stalker - 3
Ghoul - 3
Goblin Commando - 4
Goblin Dog - 4
Goblin Warchanter - 4
Harpy - 2
Kobold Champion - 2
Lamia Kuchrima - 3
Ogrekin - 3
Redcap - 2
Shining Child - 2
Sinspawn - 3
Sinspawn Axeman - 2
Skinsaw Cultist - 2
Warrior of Wrath - 2
Wraith - 2
Uncommon
Ameiko - 2
Dire Bear - 3
Goblin Commando on Mount - 3
Harsk - 2
Jakardros Sovark - 2
Kaven Windstrike - 2
Khalib - 2
Lamia - 2
Lamia Matriach - 2
Lyrie Akenja - 2
Malfeshnekor - 2
Ogre - 3
Ogre Brute - 2
Orik Vandercaskin - 2
Seoni - 3
Shalelu Androsana - 3
Stone Giant - 3
Stone Giant Champion - 2
Tsuto Kaijitsu - 2
Vale Temros - 2
Viorian Dekanti - 3
Vraxeris - 2
Wendigo - 3
Yeti -2
Rare
Aldern Foxglove - 1
Azaven - 1
High Lady Athroxis - 1
Jaagrath Kreeg - 3
Runelord Karzoug - 1
Karzoug Statue (Not arrived as of yet)
Lamatar Bayden - 1
Lamia Harridan - (Not arrived as of yet)
Lucrecia - 1
Mithral Mage - 1
Mokmurian - 1
Nualia - 1
Scanderig Forgefiend - 1
Skinsaw Man - 1
Stone Golem - 2
Storm Giant - (Not arrived as of yet)
The Scribbler - 1
Treachery Demon - (Not arrived as of yet)
Warchief Ripnugget - 0 (the only one I am missing)
Young Red Dragon - 2
So as you can see I am only missing one of the entire set with the exception of the Huges which I expect to arrive at my local game store sometime today and then I will put the numbers for the huge case in a separate posting.
Overall I am extremely happy with the set.
So I am ONLY missing Warchief Ripnugget :(
JohnF |
also missing Aldern Foxglove and Mokmurian.
Wow - that does, indeed suck.
Three out of the four you mention (Karzoug, Ripnugget and Foxglove) are on my (much smaller) list of miniatures I'm picking up (already ordered). But I'm only spending around $100 or so - while I'd love to have every single appropriate figure as we progress through the Adventure Path, sanity suggests I be little more restrained. (Although if my FLGS has the special promotional figure in its order, I believe I've got first dibs on it). I do have the pawns coming, which should fill in a lot of the gaps.
Hobbun |
So I am ONLY missing Warchief Ripnugget :(
That’s too bad, as he’s a really nice fig. I would pick up Ripnugget on the singles market if you don’t plan to buy anymore cases/bricks/boosters. I know my DM is going to get a lot of use out of him. I also like the Goblin Commando on the Goblin Dog mini. Our DM will also use that/those a lot, as well. Although I only have one of that mini, will need more of them.
NobodysHome |
I have no idea whether this is off-topic or not, but what do people primarily use for after-market? eBay, or is there a better path?
Looking at the lists so far, it looks like I'm going to have multiple copies of uniques (everyone's got multiple Ameiko's), so I figure I should turn 'em around and get 'em to someone who wants them, but I'm not particularly fond of eBay, so I'm wondering whether there's a better venue.
(I'm a few blocks away from Games of Berkeley in California, in case anyone knows whether they happen to handle such business).
Lisa Stevens CEO |
I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the point of sale that the FLGS has to sell the cases at. I ordered a standard booster case and a huge case from my FLGS and I paid $511.68 and $158.32 for the Huge case.
A couple of points here. I subscribe to Pathfinder through Paizo as you can tell so I can support my favorite lines and Pathfinder in general not to mention getting the discounts I do through having the Adventure Path line along with the free PDF's. But I want to support my local game store as well too. IN doing this I ordered the minis through them thinking I would be getting them at $519.98 and not the $661.62 that I ended up paying. With the shipping discounts and the like I could get the case bundle from Paizo at a MUCH MUCH cheaper price then the local game store.
I would basically save nearly $133.64 and that is WITH the shipping added in to it (or close to it).
I am not sure what the benefit it is to buy it through the local game store at all is as opposed to buying it through Paizo. My FLGS was upset to say the least!!!! (The Source in St Paul MN) as they are thinking why should they support any of the miniature line now considering they feel like they are either ripping their customers off or are getting ripped off.
If the brick and mortar stores HAVE to buy them at a cost that forces them to sell them at a non-discounted price, I have a feeling you are going to loose the stores as a customer in more ways then just miniature lines. The Source was starting to question why they are even carrying the books at this point... I am hoping it is a NECA/Wizkids thing and not a Paizo thing as I told them, but if it is a Paizo thing this could really really go a long way to ruining some good customer service that you had previously with them.
Not to mention as a customer you are coming dangerously close to loosing me and some friends as customers too. To see the $519.98 cost on the site and then to go to the local store and get charged $661.62 is way beyond ridiculous!
First off, all of these minis sets are sold into distribution by WizKids and not Paizo. They also set the MSRP for the set, not us. We have no control over what price they sell to distribution at and then what price the distributors sell to retailers for. Conversely, we also can't control what price retailers sell to consumers at. The only thing that we can control is what price we sell things for on paizo.com. We are basically a store like any other retail store and we have to decide what price to sell at. There are plenty of stores, online and not, that sell at a price less than we do. And of course, some stores will try to get a larger price. Every store has to make a decision about what price to sell at—this isn't something we can dictate to them. Heck, the US law prohibits us from doing that! And, of course, every consumer has to decide what price they are willing to spend to buy a product.
-Lisa
Mazra |
I have no idea whether this is off-topic or not, but what do people primarily use for after-market? eBay, or is there a better path?
Ebay auctions have always been my number one source for aftermarket miniatures. I like the auctions because sometimes you can get a really good deal if you are patient and track many auctions. After that I have three companies I use with Auggies as my first choice, followed by Troll and Toad, and of course Paizo. But I don't think they are selling singles yet.
Cheers,
Mazra
Hobbun |
For those of you who have received your Rune Giant, does his skin seems quite a bit darker than what is shown on the blog preview, or even on the box?
My Rune Giant mini his skin seems like a dark grey than the greenish hue shown on the blog preview. I understand the miniatures are put under a bright light when the picture is taken, but it looks a lot darker on the box, as well.
I just wonder if my Rune Giant's skin color is accurate.
Here is the blog preview:
Deanoth |
First off, all of these minis sets are sold into distribution by WizKids and not Paizo. They also set the MSRP for the set, not us. We have no control over what price they sell to distribution at and then what price the distributors sell to retailers for. Conversely, we also can't control what price retailers sell to consumers at. The only thing that we can control is what price we sell things for on paizo.com. We are basically a store like any other retail store and we have to decide what price to sell at. There are plenty of stores, online and not, that sell at a price less than we do. And of course, some stores will try to get a larger price. Every store has to make a decision about what price to sell at—this isn't something we can dictate to them. Heck, the US law prohibits us from doing that! And, of course, every consumer has to decide what price they are willing to spend to buy a product.
-Lisa
I appreciate your response and honesty as well. It was more of a sticker shock thing at the time as it was spendy. I KNEW that it was not your fault and it was the pricing basically by NECA/Wizkids and not yourselves.
Thanks!The Minis Maniac |
Deanoth wrote:...I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the point of sale that the FLGS has to sell the cases at. I ordered a standard booster case and a huge case from my FLGS and I paid $511.68 and $158.32 for the Huge case.
A couple of points here. I subscribe to Pathfinder through Paizo as you can tell so I can support my favorite lines and Pathfinder in general not to mention getting the discounts I do through having the Adventure Path line along with the free PDF's. But I want to support my local game store as well too. IN doing this I ordered the minis through them thinking I would be getting them at $519.98 and not the $661.62 that I ended up paying. With the shipping discounts and the like I could get the case bundle from Paizo at a MUCH MUCH cheaper price then the local game store.
I would basically save nearly $133.64 and that is WITH the shipping added in to it (or close to it).
I am not sure what the benefit it is to buy it through the local game store at all is as opposed to buying it through Paizo. My FLGS was upset to say the least!!!! (The Source in St Paul MN) as they are thinking why should they support any of the miniature line now considering they feel like they are either ripping their customers off or are getting ripped off.
If the brick and mortar stores HAVE to buy them at a cost that forces them to sell them at a non-discounted price, I have a feeling you are going to loose the stores as a customer in more ways then just miniature lines. The Source was starting to question why they are even carrying the books at this point... I am hoping it is a NECA/Wizkids thing and not a Paizo thing as I told them, but if it is a Paizo thing this could really really go a long way to ruining some good customer service that you had previously with them.
Not to mention as a customer you are coming dangerously close to loosing me and some friends as customers too. To see the $519.98 cost on the site and then to go to the local store and get charged $661.62 is way beyond ridiculous!
I know with me, even though I am a fiend for minis and likely could get them cheaper and easier from my FLGS, I choose to get them here at paizo.com. To keep fine projects that deal with pathfinder going. I feel I'm basically just helping the company more by doing so. Hence why I have all the pathfinder published material as well.
I think you all should throw caution to the wind and by all the products you can from paizo.com, so that I can get hired on in the marketing department :PDeanoth |
Made a mistake on my previous list. I went by someone else's listing and it was off and not numbered not to mention there was a few entries missing.
So I went through them all one by one and got this list.
Sorry!
My list so far.
Common
1. Bugear Hero – 3
2. Goblin Commando – 4
3. Goblin Dog – 4
4. Goblin Warchanter – 4
5. Kobold Champion – 2
6. Faceless Stalker – 3
7. Ghoul – 3
8. Harpy – 2
9. Ogrekin – 3
10. Yeth Hound - 3
11. Denizen of Leng - 3
12. Redcap – 2
13. Sinspawn – 3
14. Sinspawn Axeman – 2
15. Skinsaw Cultist – 2
16. Alu Demon - 2
17. Lamia Kuchrima - 3
18. Shining Child - 2
19. Warrior of Wrath - 2
20. Wraith - 2
Uncommon
21. Goblin Commando on Dog – 3
22. Jakardros Sovark – 2
23. Lyrie Akenja - 2
24. Ameiko Kaijitsu - 2
25. Harsk, Dwarf Ranger – 2
26. Lamia Matriarch – 2
27. Malfeshnekor – 2
28. Orik Vandercaskerkin – 2
29. Tsuto Kaijitsu – 2
30. Vale Temros – 2
31. Kaven Windstrike – 2
32. Khalib – 2
33. Ogre – 3
34. Ogre Brute – 2
35. Seoni, Human Sorcerer - 3
36. Shalelu Androsana – 3
37. Viorian Dekanti – 3
38. Dire Bear - 3
39. Stone Giant – 3
40. Stone Giant Champion – 2
41. Vraxeris - 2
42. Lamia – 2
43. Wendigo - 3
44. Yeti -2
Rare
45. Aldern Foxglove – 1
46. Jaagrath Kreeg – 3
47. Lucrecia - 1
48. The Scribbler – 1
49. The Skinsaw Man – 1
50. High Lady Athroxis - 1
51. The Mithral Mage - 1
52. Runelord Karzoug – 1
53. Stone Golem – 2
54. Azaven – 1
55. Lamatar Bayden – 1
56. Mokmurian – 1
57. Forgefiend – 1
58. Nualia - 1
59. Warchief Ripnugget - 0 (the only one I am missing)
60. Young Red Dragon – 2
61. Karzoug Statue (Not arrived as of yet)
62. Lamia Harridan - (Not arrived as of yet)
63. Storm Giant - (Not arrived as of yet)
64. Treachery Demon - (Not arrived as of yet)
Unique
65. Rune Giant - 1
Promo (Paizo Con) Spirit of the Season (waiting for it to go on sale)
Shem |
I got three standard cases today and two huge cases. I still have not received my third huge case or my three Rune Giants.
I think these are the best minis I have seen. The Ogres and stone giants are exceptional. I love the wraith. And many others.
I was very close to a full set with each case. But I did not really keep track. I am happy with the distribution of minis.
My only complaint is that I have about 9 minis that came off their bases. I am sure some superglue will fix the problem but still. I may not even fix some of them because I have so many of those particular mini but there are a couple I will fix for sure like one of my Stone Golems.
Fine job to both WizKids and Paizo.
From Burnt Offerings I have really liked how Paizo has reimagined many of the old standby monsters. And having these in minis is fantastic.
Looking forward to the Shattered Star set already. Now I just have to pay my credit card off over the next couple of months so I can rack it up again.
Joe Wells RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32 |
Misses:
The Lamia is so small it could fit on a medium base. The body seems weirdly out of proportion somehow. I'm not a fan of the art it was based on, so little surprise that this is my least favorite of the set (so far).
Viorian Dekanti looks like a Mage Knight figure to me. I presume the figure is faithful to its artwork, but it doesn't do much for me.
Hits:
Everything else. But the highlights for me are:
The ogres, but especially Jaagrath Kreeg. So much detail and excellent paint.
Mokmurian is just over-the-top fantastic. Just astounding in-hand.
Most of the human figures are excellent, but Tsuto Kaijitsu and Ameiko Kaijitsu really stand out for me.
But not as much as Vale Temros. Holy cow, so much detail.
The goblins are all great, of course, but I really love Gob Commando on Gob Dog.
Speaking of dogs, both the Yeth Hound and Goblin Dog are really nice sculpts of figures that might have ended up really bland. The paint really shows off the sculpts well. Similarly, the Lamia Kuchrima.
Love the Kobold Champion. Can there be an Ultra-Common category for this guy? I want about 10 more.
Anyway, just a fantastic set overall and there are still some I haven't seen yet!